you americans are making ,our traditional war dance a living joke , just so you can entertain the crowd .. pathetic .. I dare any school in the usa to, tour NZ , and play our 1stXV and do the haka . we dont see schools in Australia doing the haka , and most NZ players go over and play for them League and Union . Barely any NZ players go over to the US . just a shame to see our culture being used like that . when you do the haka , you do it to show your going to battle. NOT to hype the crowd up.
Also wowerzo (not picking on you, but you asked) moving during the haka is very common. Watch the All Blacks doing any haka on YouTube. It is an aggressive war dance intended to deter the other side from fighting you. There werent many Maori and they wanted to avoid fighting if possible. They would both do a haka (of which there are thousands of different ones) and hope the other side would run away. Not sure how often that happened LOL
Some ingorant comments here. No, the Haka is not a "Polynesian" cultural dance. It is a Maori war dance from Aotearoa New Zealand and as a Pakeha New Zealander I have 100 times more right to do it than any Pacific Islander. Polynesia is no more homogenous culturally than Europe. Also wowerzo, NZ is not "all black". It is 60% European, and the other 40% are not black, they are brown people, either Maori or Pacific Islanders and also about 10% Asian. This video is a f*cking disgrace.
@goosoid: Not there -the haka is an all round polynesian word that used by tongans to signify dance (although rarely used). The rugby union haka IS maori but not the word nor its general meaning. The haka (rugby one) i believe was first perform on a field (rugby) by palangi new zealanders as a joke (ABC Documentary in AUS.) I believe it was done in the early 1900's. correct me if imwrong
@TheLoyalhuman Haka has been around for a long time in Maori Tribes, different versions, Nz Abs have done it in their rugby tests, although not until like Buck Shelford in the 80s did they ever put any energy or heart into it, Haka is a maori word not polynesian, Samoans do a Siva Tau, Fijians do a Cibi, Tongans something else, they are not all war dances/chants some have different meanings.
@NZMeathead: you interpreted me wrong on a few points since I believe you did not take my previous comment word for word.
1. WORD haka HAS and still IS used in tonga to signify food or dance (i am tongan).
2. The ABC documentary clearly states that the current rugby match haka (not any other haka in any other contexts) was made up by non maoris - out of love for it or otherwise is not my point. Thats what im saying the ABC has said and is not my opinion.
but the name All Black came from their jerseys right? since their football team was the all whites, they for whatever reason decided to go with the all blacks. obviously there aren't many if any people of african descent
@byrniemac791 Well the story I always heard in NZ was that when the team weent in the 1920's to the UK, a writer said they played like they were "all backs" (i.e. even the forwards ran like backs). The jersey was black, and so people started saying they were "All Blacks". No, not too many African people in NZ, but I have a Rwandan friend in Auckland and so I know there is a small black African community, mostly refugees.
you guys dont know what you talking about.... just cause the polys who were born and raised in utah kicked your butts. doesnt mean you get to go around saying that we import everybody. how about you guys man up and play fair like we do.
@hr07011 Is the Highland Team from a High school in utah, so you can only play for the team if enrolled at that school? or is it a team that can recruit anyone under a certain age as long as they in the region, sort of like a area rep team.
I guess Highland was good enoug in '97 to do just about anything and get away with it with the league, but stealing a dance like that is just plain wrong. shame you guys didn't put them out of their misery like Jesuit did last year. I guess it's only the jesuit schools that are original with their chants
Highland wins because they bring in foreign islanders to play. If they would play fair then it would be no contest. The only people who scored in the game could hardly speak english.
Foreign? Try born and raised in Utah. And the first of Highlands 17 championships was won with one polynesian on the squad against Burlingame (SFO) of california who featured 9.
I'm sorry, I'm American, and we have no right to do the Haka, thats just retarded. I don't know which team did that, but whichever one it was, I hope they got their asses kicked.
stupid american, those are polynesians in there doing tha haka...they are representing polynesia by doing it...they are sticking to their roots...asswipe...
fukn americans bastards who do dey think dey r doin da new zealand haka......where was da maori in dat haka????........wats next on americans agenda, wat will dey "claim next"?..........
As a kiwi that makes me fuckn sick,you yanks really piss me off,do you know the history?what its about,the passion needed,,, fuck if Maoris were in your country you woulda killed them off like the American indians. WEAK!!!
Many of the people doing the haka are likely from Tonga. Highland has an Mormon "exchange" program wherein blue-eyed, blond Mormons go to the S. Pacific on a "mission", and Tongans come to the US on their "mission" (which is apparently to teach rugby).
You idiot - I just pointed out to you that the people doing the haka are Tongans. Are YOU going to tell them they are doing it wrong, you stupid Kiwi?
If you are some European descendant of a bunch of Imperialist nation from the 1800s, based on how you treated (and still treat) the indiginous people, I think you better shut your stupid mouth now, and do not go posting moronic comments about Americans and hw WE treated indiginous people.
Gelwix brings in Kiwis from NZ, the Tongans are actually part of Salt Lakes Huge Tongan population
The Kiwis rarely break the starting lineup these days, the homegrown talent is that good, You'll need new excuses explaining why you can't beat Highland
First history lesson, Mission is not an exchange program.
Hmmmm - seems like an investigation into Gelwix' recruiting is necessary. I am only repeating information given to me at Nationals by a Tongan Mormon who previously played for Highland. But the fact that Gelwix imports players is not in dispute, it is just a question of WHERE they come from?
As far as my "History" lesson is concerned - it sounds more like you want to give a lesson in "semantics" (look it up in the dictionary if you can meat head)
As far as "spewing hatred" is concerned - I do not believe I spewed any hatred, just stated facts as I knew them
If it is so important to Highlands to win a "US" high school championship that they would import players - well - I might think that their priorities were misplaced, but I think they raise the level of play in the US, and I am grateful for that.
The US will son field competetive international teams, that is certain, and I look forward to the day we scrape NZ off our collective cleats
#10 Aylmer Kenny Church College NZ Temple View, #12 Jimmy Horsford Church College NZ Temple View, #13 Paul Lasike Church College NZ Temple View, #15 Leka Mount Albert Grammer Auckland NZ, Reuben Heremaia Wesley College Auckland NZ, Locwood Ruwhiu Rosehill College Auckland NZ.
That was a disgrace to what the Haka is supposed to represent, and it is our national Haka. They were out of time and they were over the top by how they surrounded the opposing team. A job well done? Not at all...
i find it very odd that the black team was the ones on the reciving end of the haka (seeing as new zealand is all black) and the fact that they moved is completly wrong because ur not supposed to move you ground at all during the haka (at least i think)
hmmm that's real americanisation (is that a word?) of our haka. It was good, but the real haka has to have the culture and feeling behind it, otherwise it's just an entertainment for the crowd, aye
Yeah...I believe there is a significant number of players from Hyland that are from New Zealand, or there were in the past, which is where their tradition came from.
you americans are making ,our traditional war dance a living joke , just so you can entertain the crowd .. pathetic .. I dare any school in the usa to, tour NZ , and play our 1stXV and do the haka . we dont see schools in Australia doing the haka , and most NZ players go over and play for them League and Union . Barely any NZ players go over to the US . just a shame to see our culture being used like that . when you do the haka , you do it to show your going to battle. NOT to hype the crowd up.
Taw94 1 year ago
fuck highland thats so disrespectful
byrniemac791 1 year ago
wow thats disrespect right there i hope highlands wooped there ass man i hate it when they do that kind of stuff
sisilia7 1 year ago
@sisilia7 Jesuit is always doing that...that's why they are a 3rd tier team...next to United and Highland.
tukuhali 1 year ago
Also wowerzo (not picking on you, but you asked) moving during the haka is very common. Watch the All Blacks doing any haka on YouTube. It is an aggressive war dance intended to deter the other side from fighting you. There werent many Maori and they wanted to avoid fighting if possible. They would both do a haka (of which there are thousands of different ones) and hope the other side would run away. Not sure how often that happened LOL
goosoid 2 years ago
Some ingorant comments here. No, the Haka is not a "Polynesian" cultural dance. It is a Maori war dance from Aotearoa New Zealand and as a Pakeha New Zealander I have 100 times more right to do it than any Pacific Islander. Polynesia is no more homogenous culturally than Europe. Also wowerzo, NZ is not "all black". It is 60% European, and the other 40% are not black, they are brown people, either Maori or Pacific Islanders and also about 10% Asian. This video is a f*cking disgrace.
goosoid 2 years ago 5
@goosoid: Not there -the haka is an all round polynesian word that used by tongans to signify dance (although rarely used). The rugby union haka IS maori but not the word nor its general meaning. The haka (rugby one) i believe was first perform on a field (rugby) by palangi new zealanders as a joke (ABC Documentary in AUS.) I believe it was done in the early 1900's. correct me if imwrong
TheLoyalhuman 1 year ago
@TheLoyalhuman Haka has been around for a long time in Maori Tribes, different versions, Nz Abs have done it in their rugby tests, although not until like Buck Shelford in the 80s did they ever put any energy or heart into it, Haka is a maori word not polynesian, Samoans do a Siva Tau, Fijians do a Cibi, Tongans something else, they are not all war dances/chants some have different meanings.
NZMeathead 1 year ago
@NZMeathead: you interpreted me wrong on a few points since I believe you did not take my previous comment word for word.
1. WORD haka HAS and still IS used in tonga to signify food or dance (i am tongan).
2. The ABC documentary clearly states that the current rugby match haka (not any other haka in any other contexts) was made up by non maoris - out of love for it or otherwise is not my point. Thats what im saying the ABC has said and is not my opinion.
TheLoyalhuman 1 year ago
@goosoid
but the name All Black came from their jerseys right? since their football team was the all whites, they for whatever reason decided to go with the all blacks. obviously there aren't many if any people of african descent
byrniemac791 1 year ago
@byrniemac791 Well the story I always heard in NZ was that when the team weent in the 1920's to the UK, a writer said they played like they were "all backs" (i.e. even the forwards ran like backs). The jersey was black, and so people started saying they were "All Blacks". No, not too many African people in NZ, but I have a Rwandan friend in Auckland and so I know there is a small black African community, mostly refugees.
goosoid 1 year ago
rude these fullaz doing kamate! get your own ways boys
mikeytitoi 2 years ago
dude thats disrespectful. like damn, you gotta do your nifty little haka while their back is turned. cool fellas.
props to the blue team in the huddle, i hope they won
byrniemac791 2 years ago
you guys dont know what you talking about.... just cause the polys who were born and raised in utah kicked your butts. doesnt mean you get to go around saying that we import everybody. how about you guys man up and play fair like we do.
hr07011 3 years ago
@hr07011 Is the Highland Team from a High school in utah, so you can only play for the team if enrolled at that school? or is it a team that can recruit anyone under a certain age as long as they in the region, sort of like a area rep team.
NZMeathead 1 year ago
stupid.
1st1in 3 years ago
usa
cmaltzan 3 years ago
I guess Highland was good enoug in '97 to do just about anything and get away with it with the league, but stealing a dance like that is just plain wrong. shame you guys didn't put them out of their misery like Jesuit did last year. I guess it's only the jesuit schools that are original with their chants
Sparkitup101 4 years ago
I guess you did not know that Xavier (the team in the huddle) was a Jesuit school?
Also, it seems to me that Highland defeated Jesuit in 2007 for the US High School championship.
I imagine St. Ignatius Loyola (look it up, Jesuit fan) is spinning in his grave over your general ignorance.
JEJMDTD 4 years ago
i think he meant that highland wasnt original.
cmaltzan 3 years ago
Highland wins because they bring in foreign islanders to play. If they would play fair then it would be no contest. The only people who scored in the game could hardly speak english.
loserstalkshit 3 years ago
Foreign? Try born and raised in Utah. And the first of Highlands 17 championships was won with one polynesian on the squad against Burlingame (SFO) of california who featured 9.
BigTex131 3 years ago
haha indeed. i go to mcquaid jesuit
cmaltzan 3 years ago
STOP IT!! You arrogant munters. No love from Aotearoa for you!
critiquedbydave 4 years ago
I'm sorry, I'm American, and we have no right to do the Haka, thats just retarded. I don't know which team did that, but whichever one it was, I hope they got their asses kicked.
shadyfigure417 4 years ago
stupid american, those are polynesians in there doing tha haka...they are representing polynesia by doing it...they are sticking to their roots...asswipe...
jokkp 4 years ago
fukn americans bastards who do dey think dey r doin da new zealand haka......where was da maori in dat haka????........wats next on americans agenda, wat will dey "claim next"?..........
RohanSaifoloi 4 years ago
Fuckin american pricks takin our cultural dance... stop the Fuckin screaming and acctually apreciate the preformance!
sprat07 4 years ago
Actually you can always find a couple of Maori benchwarmers in any Highland squad
BigTex131 3 years ago
was bit boring waste of bandwidth
kaetae14 4 years ago
As a kiwi that makes me fuckn sick,you yanks really piss me off,do you know the history?what its about,the passion needed,,, fuck if Maoris were in your country you woulda killed them off like the American indians. WEAK!!!
powatrippa 4 years ago
Actually, it seems you need a history lesson.
Many of the people doing the haka are likely from Tonga. Highland has an Mormon "exchange" program wherein blue-eyed, blond Mormons go to the S. Pacific on a "mission", and Tongans come to the US on their "mission" (which is apparently to teach rugby).
You dumb Kiwi
JEJMDTD 4 years ago
History lesson this. That's the Ka Mate; a Maori, not Tongan, challenge. Generalizing only makes you look more pretentious.
gprop3 4 years ago
I am pretentious???
You idiot - I just pointed out to you that the people doing the haka are Tongans. Are YOU going to tell them they are doing it wrong, you stupid Kiwi?
If you are some European descendant of a bunch of Imperialist nation from the 1800s, based on how you treated (and still treat) the indiginous people, I think you better shut your stupid mouth now, and do not go posting moronic comments about Americans and hw WE treated indiginous people.
JEJMDTD 4 years ago
damn you're ignorant
Gelwix brings in Kiwis from NZ, the Tongans are actually part of Salt Lakes Huge Tongan population
The Kiwis rarely break the starting lineup these days, the homegrown talent is that good, You'll need new excuses explaining why you can't beat Highland
First history lesson, Mission is not an exchange program.
Spew your ignorant hatred elswhere
BigTex131 3 years ago
Hmmmm - seems like an investigation into Gelwix' recruiting is necessary. I am only repeating information given to me at Nationals by a Tongan Mormon who previously played for Highland. But the fact that Gelwix imports players is not in dispute, it is just a question of WHERE they come from?
As far as my "History" lesson is concerned - it sounds more like you want to give a lesson in "semantics" (look it up in the dictionary if you can meat head)
JEJMDTD 3 years ago
As far as "spewing hatred" is concerned - I do not believe I spewed any hatred, just stated facts as I knew them
If it is so important to Highlands to win a "US" high school championship that they would import players - well - I might think that their priorities were misplaced, but I think they raise the level of play in the US, and I am grateful for that.
The US will son field competetive international teams, that is certain, and I look forward to the day we scrape NZ off our collective cleats
JEJMDTD 3 years ago
Highland NZ recruits...2008
#10 Aylmer Kenny Church College NZ Temple View, #12 Jimmy Horsford Church College NZ Temple View, #13 Paul Lasike Church College NZ Temple View, #15 Leka Mount Albert Grammer Auckland NZ, Reuben Heremaia Wesley College Auckland NZ, Locwood Ruwhiu Rosehill College Auckland NZ.
mokopuna1 3 years ago
formidable ! so great !
virilmaiscorrec 4 years ago
i'm american and i dont think that americans should try to do the haka. it has no meaning to us.
rugbykid4 4 years ago 10
I couldn't agree more...thats why we stayed in our huddle.
Maruf80 4 years ago 2
well said, has nothing to do with our history and heritage. but then again, americans are composed of technically all foreiners... so... either or!
illuminatixxx 4 years ago
erkk....that was so freaking lame..u guys shd practice ur HAKA! that wsnt even motivating..
spazy266 4 years ago
Totally lame, they don't understand what they are doing. I'm embarrassed too
mca1pt 4 years ago
oh my god...can americans never try to do our haka ever again please that was embarrasing to watch
solioliolo 4 years ago
omg...god damn americans
fbloxsom 4 years ago
dude... that was just weird
andrewykl 4 years ago
Lol! I'm not Maori, but what the hell was that? Riverdance has more feeling! Riverdance scares the SHIT out me?
herman8tor 4 years ago
lol americans stealing sum1 elses tradition AGAIN.
blueblacklomu 4 years ago
oh man dey butchered da haka.
Derek61 4 years ago
That was a disgrace to what the Haka is supposed to represent, and it is our national Haka. They were out of time and they were over the top by how they surrounded the opposing team. A job well done? Not at all...
antifitnessman 5 years ago
what the fuck was that
skateanddestroy 5 years ago
i find it very odd that the black team was the ones on the reciving end of the haka (seeing as new zealand is all black) and the fact that they moved is completly wrong because ur not supposed to move you ground at all during the haka (at least i think)
wowerzo 5 years ago
hmmm that's real americanisation (is that a word?) of our haka. It was good, but the real haka has to have the culture and feeling behind it, otherwise it's just an entertainment for the crowd, aye
fraggle1979 5 years ago 4
Yeah...I believe there is a significant number of players from Hyland that are from New Zealand, or there were in the past, which is where their tradition came from.
I was on the other side though.
Maruf80 5 years ago
lol....
cuzz310 5 years ago