@mikeshredder233 royce was the only gracie doing steroids,thats 1 out of dozens who are active competitors.No judo or sambo player has ever done well in elite bjj or no gi comps,sanae kikuta excepted.MMA isnt bjj,so wins /losses can occur for lots of reasons apart from grappling.For mma,wrestling is more dominant than either,bjj the best on the ground,judo best with gi throwing.
@xfactoriceman no woman beats a man in combat sports without being twice as good as him.Marcello is in his mid 30s,13 years younger than randy couture.
What is funny about that is Fedor himself has stated that he doesn't use Sambo in MMA, he uses his BJJ training. All of his sub wins are BJJ moves. You are such an uneducated idiot is is not funny.
@AFJoe25 fedor has never even set foot in a bjj dojo which is a very rare thing in russia anyway.The only grappling fedor ever trained was judo and sambo,his biography is all over the net and in many interviews.Every single sub he has used is in both bjj and judo and sambo and judo was there before carlos and helio were even born.Subs dont distinguish the styles,youll find the same ones in most styles.
Although it has been a few years, I have rolled with Vanessa and seen her compete at tournaments. She is a very talented competitor and the real deal. Marcello would make most purple belt guys look like white belts. (and I'm not one of his students)
The funny thing is most of the people commenting neagtively on this video don't realize who Marcello is. They keep commenting that "that guy" and ho whe is handling her. Well, that guy is a World Champ and a 3rd Degree BB under De La Riva, and one of the greatest BJJers in the world. No tto mention he has trained some of the legends such as Big and Little Nog.
People comment dumb things because they don't understand.
In fact, he came to my gym for a seminar, and he DID make our purple belts look like white belts. Everyone appeared to roll with him just as well, the white belts fought as well as the purples, because he'd just adjust his level and play with us. It was a blast, this guy's good
we're not gracies, get over yourslef, there are plenty of other fighters that have gotten in trouble for steroids. It seems like you're just trying to start fights.
Anyways, it's cool you're in that type of class. I've always admired a woman who's not afraid to get physical in that way. Hope you keep it up navitabii. Take care now.
how much does she weigh and how much does he weigh? I'm thinking she's around 125? Maybe he's 170? But I'll say this one more time. From a viewers perspective he pretty much man handled her. I don't care who she is or what she's done, I was commenting on the video. I never said she sucked did I? But you get all defensive and read into my words like that. That is your problem and I still want that link. If she is the first female mundial winner surely there must be a video somewhere of this.
im sure my coach has it some where, and you wouldn't be the first guy who believed hwe was tough enough not to tap. that's cool, im not defensive at this poin i just dont understandhow u can judge something you know nothing about. i wouldn't sit there and harass someone who does a martial art i know nothing about, and i wouldn't bash something i know thoing about in general, why aer you looking this kinda stuff up ne way?
im sure my coach has video of her at mundials competing, i'll ask
To believe she was tough enough not to tap? I don't understand what you mean there? And I was judging by what I see and it's clear he wasn't trying full out. That was the only point I was trying to make. I enjoy watching UFC at times so I do know how fast paste a real fight should be and that is not the pace I'm seeing by the Black Belt dude. In the middle of watching a DVD on the puter and your email popped up heheh.
@PoPEyENV shes a complete novice compared to marcello,he was a black belt 20 years ago.For a woman to handle a man,she has to be a lot better than him technically and be strong and fit.
I can seeeeee what she's 'trying' to do to the guy but he's too big and strong to control. It's like he's going in slo mo as well. No effort given. Keep your lol's to yourself. My comment was 'how it looked' and I was only being honest. Bet I could choke her out in under 30 seconds. Or break that little arm of hers. That I know how to do.
Sorry can't see it. And training isn't the same as fighting.
Show us the vid of you submitting a guy who's 220 in a real match (not a training match)
Ahh you're a woman no wonder you're so defensive. You obviously have something up your ass and no female would make me submit who is 120 pounds. See that 10 second mark right there. That's where I'd have picked her up like he did and slammed her HARD into the floor over and over again.
Dude, I'm 230 pounds so I can't see her doing much with me to be honest. Well my cardio sucks so I'd just tire out heheh. And no, I'm not some kid just saying this. I'm 227 to be exact as I weighed myself at the gym today. I wouldn't know how to put her in any kind of a lock though as I'm not trained for it. But yeah, just saying what I see and hard to judge when the guy seems to out weigh and out skill her. For me anyways.
lol so you have no idea what she's doing, no idea how to do any of this, but u think you can judge what she's doing? lol cool, and btw im a 120 lb female and i've submitted a guy in my class, during training, and he was 220. im no where near as good as vanessa but i can garuntee you the guy was in better she than you... its not about strength, its about strength and technique.
lol the dude is out coach marcello monteiro, black belt under de la riva, and a bjj master, what do you expect??? lol you ever train with a blackbelt master, daily? she's now a purple belt. i will ever knock my coach but the technique and the fluidity of the training is what is so good. and id love to see you try and roll with vanessa, lol
are you kidding that guy is our coach and a black belt master. she is an amazing fighter you should look her up. The first female mundial winner from USA
I would so Tap Out That Chick anyday of the week
noel1270 1 year ago
@mikeshredder233 royce was the only gracie doing steroids,thats 1 out of dozens who are active competitors.No judo or sambo player has ever done well in elite bjj or no gi comps,sanae kikuta excepted.MMA isnt bjj,so wins /losses can occur for lots of reasons apart from grappling.For mma,wrestling is more dominant than either,bjj the best on the ground,judo best with gi throwing.
billysue2 1 year ago
Marcello has incredible BJJ. I had the honor of wrestling him as a brown belt and he dominated me like few ever had.
uchideshi 2 years ago
Vanessa Smith Awesome BJJ Player. Honestly I think she can kick Marcello's ass right now. Marcello's OLD!!!
xfactoriceman 3 years ago
@xfactoriceman no woman beats a man in combat sports without being twice as good as him.Marcello is in his mid 30s,13 years younger than randy couture.
billysue2 1 year ago
What is funny about that is Fedor himself has stated that he doesn't use Sambo in MMA, he uses his BJJ training. All of his sub wins are BJJ moves. You are such an uneducated idiot is is not funny.
AFJoe25 3 years ago
Not you Vanessa, the other guy.
AFJoe25 3 years ago
@AFJoe25 fedor has never even set foot in a bjj dojo which is a very rare thing in russia anyway.The only grappling fedor ever trained was judo and sambo,his biography is all over the net and in many interviews.Every single sub he has used is in both bjj and judo and sambo and judo was there before carlos and helio were even born.Subs dont distinguish the styles,youll find the same ones in most styles.
billysue2 1 year ago
Although it has been a few years, I have rolled with Vanessa and seen her compete at tournaments. She is a very talented competitor and the real deal. Marcello would make most purple belt guys look like white belts. (and I'm not one of his students)
furiousnazgul9 3 years ago
The funny thing is most of the people commenting neagtively on this video don't realize who Marcello is. They keep commenting that "that guy" and ho whe is handling her. Well, that guy is a World Champ and a 3rd Degree BB under De La Riva, and one of the greatest BJJers in the world. No tto mention he has trained some of the legends such as Big and Little Nog.
People comment dumb things because they don't understand.
AFJoe25 3 years ago
Vanessa is, hyperbole completely aside, one of the most technical and talented to bjj players, I've had the privilage of training with.
Godsmasher22 2 years ago
In fact, he came to my gym for a seminar, and he DID make our purple belts look like white belts. Everyone appeared to roll with him just as well, the white belts fought as well as the purples, because he'd just adjust his level and play with us. It was a blast, this guy's good
TomorrowYsera 2 years ago
@TomorrowYsera almost any black belt in the world would manhandle 90 % of the purple belts out there.
billysue2 1 year ago
we're not gracies, get over yourslef, there are plenty of other fighters that have gotten in trouble for steroids. It seems like you're just trying to start fights.
navitabjj 3 years ago
Anyways, it's cool you're in that type of class. I've always admired a woman who's not afraid to get physical in that way. Hope you keep it up navitabii. Take care now.
PoPEyENV 3 years ago
And I don't doubt she is either. I just want to see it out of curiousity.
Making sure you don't read my words wrong again.
PoPEyENV 3 years ago
how much does she weigh and how much does he weigh? I'm thinking she's around 125? Maybe he's 170? But I'll say this one more time. From a viewers perspective he pretty much man handled her. I don't care who she is or what she's done, I was commenting on the video. I never said she sucked did I? But you get all defensive and read into my words like that. That is your problem and I still want that link. If she is the first female mundial winner surely there must be a video somewhere of this.
PoPEyENV 3 years ago
im sure my coach has it some where, and you wouldn't be the first guy who believed hwe was tough enough not to tap. that's cool, im not defensive at this poin i just dont understandhow u can judge something you know nothing about. i wouldn't sit there and harass someone who does a martial art i know nothing about, and i wouldn't bash something i know thoing about in general, why aer you looking this kinda stuff up ne way?
im sure my coach has video of her at mundials competing, i'll ask
navitabjj 3 years ago
To believe she was tough enough not to tap? I don't understand what you mean there? And I was judging by what I see and it's clear he wasn't trying full out. That was the only point I was trying to make. I enjoy watching UFC at times so I do know how fast paste a real fight should be and that is not the pace I'm seeing by the Black Belt dude. In the middle of watching a DVD on the puter and your email popped up heheh.
PoPEyENV 3 years ago
@PoPEyENV shes a complete novice compared to marcello,he was a black belt 20 years ago.For a woman to handle a man,she has to be a lot better than him technically and be strong and fit.
billysue2 1 year ago
I can seeeeee what she's 'trying' to do to the guy but he's too big and strong to control. It's like he's going in slo mo as well. No effort given. Keep your lol's to yourself. My comment was 'how it looked' and I was only being honest. Bet I could choke her out in under 30 seconds. Or break that little arm of hers. That I know how to do.
Sorry can't see it. And training isn't the same as fighting.
Show us the vid of you submitting a guy who's 220 in a real match (not a training match)
PoPEyENV 3 years ago
Ahh you're a woman no wonder you're so defensive. You obviously have something up your ass and no female would make me submit who is 120 pounds. See that 10 second mark right there. That's where I'd have picked her up like he did and slammed her HARD into the floor over and over again.
PoPEyENV 3 years ago
Dude, I'm 230 pounds so I can't see her doing much with me to be honest. Well my cardio sucks so I'd just tire out heheh. And no, I'm not some kid just saying this. I'm 227 to be exact as I weighed myself at the gym today. I wouldn't know how to put her in any kind of a lock though as I'm not trained for it. But yeah, just saying what I see and hard to judge when the guy seems to out weigh and out skill her. For me anyways.
PoPEyENV 3 years ago
lol so you have no idea what she's doing, no idea how to do any of this, but u think you can judge what she's doing? lol cool, and btw im a 120 lb female and i've submitted a guy in my class, during training, and he was 220. im no where near as good as vanessa but i can garuntee you the guy was in better she than you... its not about strength, its about strength and technique.
navitabjj 3 years ago
stupid Youtube. Just threepeated myself cause the button wasn't moving.
PoPEyENV 3 years ago
lol the dude is out coach marcello monteiro, black belt under de la riva, and a bjj master, what do you expect??? lol you ever train with a blackbelt master, daily? she's now a purple belt. i will ever knock my coach but the technique and the fluidity of the training is what is so good. and id love to see you try and roll with vanessa, lol
navitabjj 3 years ago
the dude man handled her without even trying to exert much force or speed. I googled her name and nothing came up.
PoPEyENV 3 years ago
the dude man handled her without even trying to exert much force or speed. I googled her name and nothing came up.
PoPEyENV 3 years ago
the dude man handled her without even trying to exert much force or speed. I googled her name and nothing came up.
PoPEyENV 3 years ago
What's so amazing? The guy could have submitted her several times.
refdan49 4 years ago
are you kidding that guy is our coach and a black belt master. she is an amazing fighter you should look her up. The first female mundial winner from USA
navitabjj 4 years ago