"100% of islamic terrorists are muslims" no shit sherlock, thats like saying that 100% of white folks are caucasians, seriously, how can that be the basis of his racist agenda?
Bush took a full week in 2004 to figure out what to do with the character who tried to down an airliner using explosive chemicals in his shoes. Rep King didn't complain. Bush had him tried in a civilian criminal court, and King kept his big mouth shut then, too.
Do you suppose Rep King is now coming forth with ideas and criticism because the other party is governing in Wash,DC? Should we not refer to this about-face as hypocrisy?
Peons for Ethical Treatment of Nigerians, turds, burglars, listen UP: Issues for Flight 253 are the same as back when Richard Reid demonstrated he could have, BUT DID NOT ACTUALLY DESTROY AN AIRCRAFT. 'Shoes' need to be replaced. Your economy fails to brake, and then it SKIDS. Obama, Biden, and Hillary are ALL likely to fulfill perverse predictions, by diving their 747s, by 2011. ALL riot, incite, and evade review, as conspirators, to interagency fraud, failing to re-regulate energy OR Israel!
You want to go after the mafia you go after the Italians..OR the Russians, Armenians, Turks, Israelis, Chinese, Bulgarians, Argentinians, etc etc. Organized crime is world wide, not just in New Jersey with the Sopranos.
Go after the IRA you target the Irish, well the USA was the IRA's primary supplier of money and arms throughout their entire time as an active terrorist group, so do you also go after Americans?
For some reason, I have doubts to this guy's knowledge of security matters.
I fully understand what he was trying to say with that metaphor, he was focusing on profiling Muslims with airline security. I get that. However, if you are going to try to use a metaphor, such as how he did, you can't give erroneous information to your comparisons. It makes you lose credibility...not to say that this guy really has any.
Actually, it's been spreading around that Yemen is claiming he's actually 1 of 25 planned attacks on airliners... which leaves 24 attacks yet to be attempted. 1 man taking out ~300 individuals mid-air with countless casualties on the ground and encountering no significant countermeasures... yeah, that's cause for concern.
? What are you talking about. Yemen is fighting Al Qaeda they aren't SENDING these people. I'm saying the intelligence they have is that he was 1 of 25 planned terrorist acts which unfortunately means there are 24 others planning to do something to compromise our national security. You having a hard time grasping this concept?
Germans caught on US soil during WW2 were tried through military tribunals which resulted in execution by hanging. That is the precedent that should be used for this guy he is obviously a saboteur.
@JCJ77 Terrorists are criminals -- not saboteurs -- and should be treated as such under the full extent of the laws described in the US constitution. This man is not a soldier or a spy, he does not wear a uniform or represent any nation or government.
@wnnw98 Ever hear of Waziristan? It's the northern tribal region of Pakistan on the border of Afghanistan. It is governed by the Taliban. The Taliban and Al Queda are so closely tied together, they are essentially the same organization. And Yemen is located on the Arabian Peninsula and Pakistan is in central asia.
The Taliban and Al Qaida are not the same. They aren't even that close because their interests barely overlap. Furthermore, the Taliban isn't officially governing anything -- so back to the original point, the guy who lit his undies on fire was attempting to commit a criminal act, not an act of war.
Dude, where have you been the last decade? The Taliban supported and was supported by Al Queda in the 90's. And just b/c the Taliban isn't the official recognized gov't of the tribal regions of Pakistan, and the contested regions of Afghanistan doesn't mean that it isn't the Gov't in fact. Do you think the first continental congress was the official and recognized gov't of the colonies? I assure you, King George III didn't think so.
The Taliban is a regional political power that is ruled by Islamic fundamentalists. Al Qaida is an international network of terrorists that exploits Islam to achieve its goals of destroying American hegemony. They are different organizations with different leadership and different agendas.
Anyway, to make the leap from a man lighting his pants on fire on a plane to a declaration of war is asinine. And to say that the Taliban declared war on the US is amazingly ignorant.
LoL, to say you have to actually "declare war" to be at war is what is amazingly ignorant. You are evidently clueless as to the history of the Taliban and Al Queda. Their are several excellent documentaries that detail the connection, and quite a few good books. But I doubt you would take the time or effort to watch or read them.
Let's rehash what was previously said. JCJ77 claimed that what this guy did was an act of war and should be tried under a military tribunal and executed. I pointed out to him that it was a criminal act and he should be tried in a court of law in accordance with the US constitution.
Then you come in spouting off nonsense about the Taliban and Al Qaida being essentially the same group, which anyone in the foreign policy arena knows is not true. Ok?
You said you have to have some sort of gov'y backing to be a war criminal and that Al Qaeda and the Taliban aren't connected. But do a search on you-tube for "Documentary 2006 - Declassified: The Taliban (Part 1/5)", watch all five parts and then tell me Al Qaeda and the Taliban aren't in bed with each other. And, dude is a war criminal
No one is calling him a war criminal except you. Though, I'm sure you could write a letter to your congressman expressing your feelings about this and he'll be eager to have you consult him on the distinction between constitutional law and military law.
And while you're at it you can explain to him how the Taliban and Al Qaida are "the same." I sense a bright future for you in the intelligence field. The CIA is hiring, you know.
There are plenty of people calling him a war criminal, read the other comments. And my senator is Lindsey Grahm (prbly misspelled) and being an Air Force JAG Lawyer, I'm pretty sure he would agree with me and wouldn't need my consultation. Watch the vid I recommended, all 5 parts now, you'll see the connection spelled out for you. And the CIA doesn't hire potheads like me.
Well if it was just a single nutjob, I wouldn't really care, but we don't have a single nutjob coming after us. We have a nutjob with an army of nutjobs who want to destroy this country. Unlike some of my fellow citizens, I like this country, despite it's many flaws and I would be extremely put out if it was destroyed.
It doesn't matter what people want or are thinking. What matters is what they do, and in this situation, only one person tried to do something. That is not a war.
Oh c'mon dude!!!!! Don't tell me you are saying that this is just one guy! That's just intellectually dishonest. I mean, It's not like you can go to the hardware store and pick up a can of PNEP.
I'm sorry dude, I must have misplaced my list of senior Al Qaeda operatives in Yemen. But I do know that the guy admitted to being Al Qaeda, that Al Qaeda claimed responsibility for the attack. C'mon dude, are you seriously trying to say that this guy acted alone? With no support whatsoever? You know good and well that is false.
It doesn't matter whether or not he acted without the complicity of others. A lone bomber not acting on the orders of a government is not an act of war.
It doesn't matter what people want or are thinking. What matters is what they do, and in this situation, only one person tried to do something. That is not a war.
You should focus on what I am saying instead of trying to suggest I don't know what I am talking about because you don't know what kind of fool you look like when you say things like that to people you don't know in anyway. I would bet I have more geography education in my pinky toe than you've ever even wondered about.
I personally don't have a clue what to do. I would like to believe, the US would live up to it's laws and not thro them away when they're not convenient.
When did we suspend our Constitution???? The guy committed a crime in U.S, territory, so he is subject to the laws of the land like any other terrorist who got caught in America.
actually he commited the crime in canadian airspace, thankfull the plane didnt crash or land here, cause then the americans would blame us for letting terriorist cross the border, like they did after 9/11, and some still do, when everyone of the people responsible entered and lived there legally and were even trained to fly aircrafts by government companys, but hey dont let the facts get in the way not taking responsibility for creating the hatred toward her, blame canada.
A guy tried to blow up an airliner with 300 people in it and we are treating him like he was caught jaywalking. That's why republican are going batshit crazy. When are progressives understand we are at war?
I imagine if a child put a penny on a railroad track you would claim he was trying to derail the train. Stop acting on your irrational emotions, and see this situation for what it really is, nothing.
@Rich... I understand the difference between a child putting a penny on the tracks to see what would happen, not understanding the consequences of his actions and a GROWN MAN attempting to use an explosive on an aircraft, while sitting in the seat for maximum possible damage and having full awareness of what might happen to him and his fellow passengers. The fact that he failed in a rather epic fashion is irrelevant. Again, We are at WAR.
i totally believe it. i lived in that part of the world for decades. to me it's not what they do, it's how we react. more bush style reactionary and belligerent statements makes things worse. does nothing but help recruit more abdul mutaleb's
100% of the islamic terrorists are muslim??!!
TOURSGMD 2 years ago
was I the only one to catch what he said?
"100% of islamic terrorists are muslims" no shit sherlock, thats like saying that 100% of white folks are caucasians, seriously, how can that be the basis of his racist agenda?
destruantes 2 years ago
Bush took a full week in 2004 to figure out what to do with the character who tried to down an airliner using explosive chemicals in his shoes. Rep King didn't complain. Bush had him tried in a civilian criminal court, and King kept his big mouth shut then, too.
Do you suppose Rep King is now coming forth with ideas and criticism because the other party is governing in Wash,DC? Should we not refer to this about-face as hypocrisy?
Lriz123 2 years ago
Of course, republican politicans are oppertunists.
10thAngel 2 years ago
Like Timothy McVeigh???
Francebrasil 2 years ago
why?
Jeijo1 2 years ago
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lllraverslll 2 years ago
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lllraverslll 2 years ago
we should open concentration camps and round up all muslims
According to Glenn Beck they are already built so what are we waiting for?
pwl1980 2 years ago
fuck that we need to screen everyone the enemy can be anyone
evilpaul626 2 years ago
"100% of the Islamic terrorists that are coming against us are Muslims."
Redundant statement is redundant.
p00lman 2 years ago
Peons for Ethical Treatment of Nigerians, turds, burglars, listen UP: Issues for Flight 253 are the same as back when Richard Reid demonstrated he could have, BUT DID NOT ACTUALLY DESTROY AN AIRCRAFT. 'Shoes' need to be replaced. Your economy fails to brake, and then it SKIDS. Obama, Biden, and Hillary are ALL likely to fulfill perverse predictions, by diving their 747s, by 2011. ALL riot, incite, and evade review, as conspirators, to interagency fraud, failing to re-regulate energy OR Israel!
bobgnote1 2 years ago
1946-Nuremberg*
d00mie74 2 years ago
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lllraverslll 2 years ago
You want to go after the mafia you go after the Italians..OR the Russians, Armenians, Turks, Israelis, Chinese, Bulgarians, Argentinians, etc etc. Organized crime is world wide, not just in New Jersey with the Sopranos.
Go after the IRA you target the Irish, well the USA was the IRA's primary supplier of money and arms throughout their entire time as an active terrorist group, so do you also go after Americans?
For some reason, I have doubts to this guy's knowledge of security matters.
barada01 2 years ago
I don't think you understand what he was trying to say with that metaphor.
njcarlos1 2 years ago
I fully understand what he was trying to say with that metaphor, he was focusing on profiling Muslims with airline security. I get that. However, if you are going to try to use a metaphor, such as how he did, you can't give erroneous information to your comparisons. It makes you lose credibility...not to say that this guy really has any.
barada01 2 years ago
1 man and the entire nation screams horror... how strong can our government really be...
PersonalJesus348 2 years ago
Actually, it's been spreading around that Yemen is claiming he's actually 1 of 25 planned attacks on airliners... which leaves 24 attacks yet to be attempted. 1 man taking out ~300 individuals mid-air with countless casualties on the ground and encountering no significant countermeasures... yeah, that's cause for concern.
njcarlos1 2 years ago
Yeah a country is going to send people to attack a foreign country guerilla style... get real
PersonalJesus348 2 years ago
? What are you talking about. Yemen is fighting Al Qaeda they aren't SENDING these people. I'm saying the intelligence they have is that he was 1 of 25 planned terrorist acts which unfortunately means there are 24 others planning to do something to compromise our national security. You having a hard time grasping this concept?
njcarlos1 2 years ago
no I grasp your a paranoid fuck
PersonalJesus348 2 years ago
And you're clearly a dumbass.
njcarlos1 2 years ago
This guy is a genius!
@ 1:25 he explains to us liberal dullards, "100% of the Islamic terrorists ... are Muslims."
HOLY SHIT NO WAI
FortunateSon87 2 years ago 2
This terrorist committed a international crime. He can be tried in the U.S. or Amsterdam as an international terrorist.
dmp079 2 years ago
'If you're going after IRA, you go to Irish bars..."
Having an Irish heritage, I should be insulted, but that's funny as hell.
pakratmak 2 years ago 2
New York can do a whole lot better.
terrence0258 2 years ago
Germans caught on US soil during WW2 were tried through military tribunals which resulted in execution by hanging. That is the precedent that should be used for this guy he is obviously a saboteur.
JCJ77 2 years ago
@JCJ77 Terrorists are criminals -- not saboteurs -- and should be treated as such under the full extent of the laws described in the US constitution. This man is not a soldier or a spy, he does not wear a uniform or represent any nation or government.
wnnw98 2 years ago
People who commit acts of war are not criminals.
JCJ77 2 years ago
@JCJ77 Dumbasses who light their fruit of the loom underwear on fire while trying to blow up a plane ARE criminals.
wnnw98 2 years ago
Trying to blow up a plane while working for Al Qaeda is an act of war.
JCJ77 2 years ago
@JCJ77 I'm unfamiliar with this country called "Al Qaeda." Can you show me where it is on a map?
wnnw98 2 years ago
Al Qaeda is governing eras in several countries such as Yemen and western Pakistan.
JCJ77 2 years ago
@JCJ77 No, they're not. I bet you couldn't even spot Yemen and Pakistan on a map.
wnnw98 2 years ago
@wnnw98 Ever hear of Waziristan? It's the northern tribal region of Pakistan on the border of Afghanistan. It is governed by the Taliban. The Taliban and Al Queda are so closely tied together, they are essentially the same organization. And Yemen is located on the Arabian Peninsula and Pakistan is in central asia.
d00mie74 2 years ago
The Taliban and Al Qaida are not the same. They aren't even that close because their interests barely overlap. Furthermore, the Taliban isn't officially governing anything -- so back to the original point, the guy who lit his undies on fire was attempting to commit a criminal act, not an act of war.
wnnw98 2 years ago
Dude, where have you been the last decade? The Taliban supported and was supported by Al Queda in the 90's. And just b/c the Taliban isn't the official recognized gov't of the tribal regions of Pakistan, and the contested regions of Afghanistan doesn't mean that it isn't the Gov't in fact. Do you think the first continental congress was the official and recognized gov't of the colonies? I assure you, King George III didn't think so.
d00mie74 2 years ago
The Taliban is a regional political power that is ruled by Islamic fundamentalists. Al Qaida is an international network of terrorists that exploits Islam to achieve its goals of destroying American hegemony. They are different organizations with different leadership and different agendas.
Anyway, to make the leap from a man lighting his pants on fire on a plane to a declaration of war is asinine. And to say that the Taliban declared war on the US is amazingly ignorant.
wnnw98 2 years ago
LoL, to say you have to actually "declare war" to be at war is what is amazingly ignorant. You are evidently clueless as to the history of the Taliban and Al Queda. Their are several excellent documentaries that detail the connection, and quite a few good books. But I doubt you would take the time or effort to watch or read them.
d00mie74 2 years ago
What? You're arguing a point I never made.
Let's rehash what was previously said. JCJ77 claimed that what this guy did was an act of war and should be tried under a military tribunal and executed. I pointed out to him that it was a criminal act and he should be tried in a court of law in accordance with the US constitution.
Then you come in spouting off nonsense about the Taliban and Al Qaida being essentially the same group, which anyone in the foreign policy arena knows is not true. Ok?
wnnw98 2 years ago
You said you have to have some sort of gov'y backing to be a war criminal and that Al Qaeda and the Taliban aren't connected. But do a search on you-tube for "Documentary 2006 - Declassified: The Taliban (Part 1/5)", watch all five parts and then tell me Al Qaeda and the Taliban aren't in bed with each other. And, dude is a war criminal
d00mie74 2 years ago
No one is calling him a war criminal except you. Though, I'm sure you could write a letter to your congressman expressing your feelings about this and he'll be eager to have you consult him on the distinction between constitutional law and military law.
And while you're at it you can explain to him how the Taliban and Al Qaida are "the same." I sense a bright future for you in the intelligence field. The CIA is hiring, you know.
wnnw98 2 years ago
There are plenty of people calling him a war criminal, read the other comments. And my senator is Lindsey Grahm (prbly misspelled) and being an Air Force JAG Lawyer, I'm pretty sure he would agree with me and wouldn't need my consultation. Watch the vid I recommended, all 5 parts now, you'll see the connection spelled out for you. And the CIA doesn't hire potheads like me.
d00mie74 2 years ago
Sorry, but unless we're talking about, say, the T-1000, a single nutbag acting alone cannot declare war.
p00lman 2 years ago
Well if it was just a single nutjob, I wouldn't really care, but we don't have a single nutjob coming after us. We have a nutjob with an army of nutjobs who want to destroy this country. Unlike some of my fellow citizens, I like this country, despite it's many flaws and I would be extremely put out if it was destroyed.
d00mie74 2 years ago
It doesn't matter what people want or are thinking. What matters is what they do, and in this situation, only one person tried to do something. That is not a war.
p00lman 2 years ago
Oh c'mon dude!!!!! Don't tell me you are saying that this is just one guy! That's just intellectually dishonest. I mean, It's not like you can go to the hardware store and pick up a can of PNEP.
d00mie74 2 years ago
So tell me the names of who else was involved.
p00lman 2 years ago
I'm sorry dude, I must have misplaced my list of senior Al Qaeda operatives in Yemen. But I do know that the guy admitted to being Al Qaeda, that Al Qaeda claimed responsibility for the attack. C'mon dude, are you seriously trying to say that this guy acted alone? With no support whatsoever? You know good and well that is false.
d00mie74 2 years ago
It doesn't matter whether or not he acted without the complicity of others. A lone bomber not acting on the orders of a government is not an act of war.
p00lman 2 years ago
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It doesn't matter what people want or are thinking. What matters is what they do, and in this situation, only one person tried to do something. That is not a war.
p00lman 2 years ago
@wnnw98
You should focus on what I am saying instead of trying to suggest I don't know what I am talking about because you don't know what kind of fool you look like when you say things like that to people you don't know in anyway. I would bet I have more geography education in my pinky toe than you've ever even wondered about.
JCJ77 2 years ago
I personally don't have a clue what to do. I would like to believe, the US would live up to it's laws and not thro them away when they're not convenient.
Where's SCOTUS on this issue?
Pleblian 2 years ago
Why do you not shut your stupid mouth. What a stupid fool. False flag business as usual.
Anothercoilgun 2 years ago
Get this guy out of Congress.
VeohBlows 2 years ago 2
When did we suspend our Constitution???? The guy committed a crime in U.S, territory, so he is subject to the laws of the land like any other terrorist who got caught in America.
GOP: the party of unconstitutional crazies
vallejoelgrande 2 years ago 11
actually he commited the crime in canadian airspace, thankfull the plane didnt crash or land here, cause then the americans would blame us for letting terriorist cross the border, like they did after 9/11, and some still do, when everyone of the people responsible entered and lived there legally and were even trained to fly aircrafts by government companys, but hey dont let the facts get in the way not taking responsibility for creating the hatred toward her, blame canada.
jhakana 2 years ago 3
100% isn't going to be Muslim. Who's been shooting up churches and museums in America? Check the news. Those are acts of terrorism.
shoogie06 2 years ago 4
A guy lights his pants on fire, and the Republicans go batshit crazy.
Richardgwm 2 years ago 3
A guy tried to blow up an airliner with 300 people in it and we are treating him like he was caught jaywalking. That's why republican are going batshit crazy. When are progressives understand we are at war?
d00mie74 2 years ago
@d00m
I imagine if a child put a penny on a railroad track you would claim he was trying to derail the train. Stop acting on your irrational emotions, and see this situation for what it really is, nothing.
Richardgwm 2 years ago
@Rich... I understand the difference between a child putting a penny on the tracks to see what would happen, not understanding the consequences of his actions and a GROWN MAN attempting to use an explosive on an aircraft, while sitting in the seat for maximum possible damage and having full awareness of what might happen to him and his fellow passengers. The fact that he failed in a rather epic fashion is irrelevant. Again, We are at WAR.
d00mie74 2 years ago
Irrational fear. Bee stings kill more Americans than terrorism.
Richardgwm 2 years ago
Go right ahead and and stick your head in the sand, dude.
d00mie74 2 years ago
I enjoy living in reality.
Richardgwm 2 years ago
I'm sure you would, how about taking the blinders off and take a look at the world around you for a change?
d00mie74 2 years ago
Yes, because some people deserve rights and some people do not, lmfao. This guy is nuts.
d3v07 2 years ago 2
Propaganda, all of it. I don't believe anything these people tell me.
VeracityMedia 2 years ago 3
i totally believe it. i lived in that part of the world for decades. to me it's not what they do, it's how we react. more bush style reactionary and belligerent statements makes things worse. does nothing but help recruit more abdul mutaleb's
inmyforties 2 years ago
Good, lets flush them all out and hang them for the War Criminals they are
d00mie74 2 years ago