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  • I appreciate your words. I have several videos on here and I was in an interview and prosperity was a question. I fully understood that 5 min could not adequately be used to debate, but I was answering a question that was posed to me. After reading all of your comments I'm sure we agree more than you may realize. Also I encourage you to view all of my videos and see if you still feel the same way. I'm still a work in progress, but my greatest desire is to uplift the Kingdom of God. Be blessed.

  • Pastor my heartbeat is that you use your medium to extol the believers to love God in plenty,in lack,in peril,in persecution,in joy,in sorrow.I will end with Habakkuk 3:17-18,"Even though the fig tree shall not blossom, neither shall fruit be in the vines; the labour of the olive shall fail, and the fields shall yield no meat; the flock shall be cut off from the fold, and there shall be no herd in the stalls:

    18 Yet I will rejoice in the LORD, I will joy in the God of my salvation.".Shalom

  • and they multiplied in thousands.They were not all rich.They had so many poor people.So money is not an issue here.The altar and the gift at the altar,which one is more important,the temple and the gold in the temple,which one is of high value? It is the presence of God in the altar that sanctifies the gifts.The gift doesn't make the altar more of an altar than it already is.Just like the gold in the temple doesn't make it the temple,it is God who dwells in the temple who makes it the temple.

  • Satan needed Jesus' access to bread before he could endorse him as the Son of God.Don't we preach same today in churches?It is good and needful as long as we live on earth,but Jesus warned us to be careful about material success and money so sternly in the bible that you cannot overlook it.Success can get into one's head and lead him away from God.The early church recorded in the book of Acts had everything in common ,shared everything they had together

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  • We use prosperity as a bait to fill our churches,little wonder we have carnal men/women profaning the name of the Lord.I find it disappointing Pastor that you made a 5 minutes video to debate about prosperity.You could have used this video to preach the eternal gospel that is able to save a soul.I don't think that prosperity is an issue in our calling.Just like what satan tempted Jesus with,"If you are the Son of God.In other words,if you are of God,you should not lack bread(Material prosperity

  • but still died(both physical and spiritual death).The manna in the desert represented the material provision,the bread from heaven stands for the word of God.What is wrong with the gospel of today is that we preeach the Jesus who gives us prosperity.That is a bad sale of the gospel,it is of the devil.Of course the world will accept a Jesus that provides for them ,that gives them a good marriage etc.Is that the reason we should come to Christ?

  • They wanted to make him King.He had provided for their carnal need.Jesus was wary of them becuae he knew they were coming for the food they ate the previous day and he rebuked them sternly.He invited them to eat the Bread from Heaven.If they ate the bread of heaven they won't die.The bread from heaven is the Logos.The word of God,Jesus himself.When you feed your spirit and soul the logos ,YOU will not die(the second death).He told them that their fathers ate the manna from heaven but..

  • your preference will be to lose the world so you can gain your soul.There is something so wrong in today's church when we make material provision so popular and mainstream ,it shows that what Jesus foretold us about prophets in sheeps' clothing is here with us.Look at the story in John 6,when Jesus fed 4000 people miraculously.Now they were fed by Jesus remember.That was a divine provision,miraculous.But the next day,the Jews were looking for him early in the morning.

  • and also a standard or model for material prosperity.Jesus died to purchase your soul's prosperity.And being found in a material world,the heavnely father will miraculously provide for us as we trust him.Jesus said,what shall it profit a man .if he gains the whole world and loses his soul.Again here there is a contrast between the gaining the soul and gaining the world.Is it a sin for a believer to gain the world?No,it is not But if gaining the world will make you lose your soul ,

  • My name is Charles.I live in england.I appreciate your video clip.But there are few things you do not consider.There is a True prosperity/riches and there is earthy prosperity/riches.In First John,John said,beloved i wish avove all things that you may prosper(succeed) and be in good healthy ,even as your soul prospers.Now,that verse is clear on the most important prosperity.It says 'even as your soul prospers'.Which means prosperity of the soul is basic,fundamental,expected .

  • Just pray and ask God to lead you into the truth of the scriptures. Not preaching like these false apostles who take the word WAY out of context. No credible bible scholar, theologian, reformer or great man of God in history ever preached this stuff. It came from the 1900's, meaning its new, meaning it has strayed from what men in the last 2000 years have been preaching. Beware of new doctrines. This is not the Gospel, read 1cor:15, and gal 3. The gospel brings you to Jesus not stuff

  • If after listening to my thoughts on prosperity, you still think I am focused on stuff or believe prosperity equals material things solely; than either I communicated ineffectively or you just weren't listening with an open mind.

  • No where in my writings did I say that it was about stuff. I said this will lead you astray from the truth. It is not biblically sound and not 1 again not 1 reputable bible scholar, theologian, reformer, or Martin Luther, Calvin, Spurgeon, Scroll, etc.....None of them preached this garbage, but they did mention it as heresy and the whole church seemed to agree. So again, it is not Sound Doctrine and it is not the Gospel. But it is good comedy to hear it preached, because it is so out there!

  • You said and I quote " the gospel brings you to Jesus not stuff" How soon we forget. Besides the idea of commenting on a video is to comment on what the person in the video said. you keep talking about what other people teach and preach. I wish you would comment directly on what I said and not talk about other peoples heresy. Im not sure you even listened to the video.

  • I must also add, the prosperity is contrary to what the bible teaches. Can you prove the 30,60,100 fold doctrine? Answer NO you cannot, it is a lie.

    The bible declares that if you give to the rich you will become poor. Prov 22:16, if you desire to be rich or prosperous you are in error. 1Tim 6:9. You cannot even desire it, or you are in error. Never met anyone who preaches this doctrine who is not trying to get wealthy, or constantly starring at idols (cars, jets, houses). It all ERROR

  • So what do you do with that video to the right of yours. John piper and the prosperity gospel. He has a very clear message against folks like creflo dollar and copeland.  But the interesting thing is he actually has a point.

  • if the prosperity Gospel is not herasy then that means the christians being persicuted and dying of starvation round the world, are really bad and unbeliving christians

  • Principles create prosperity. It is very possible that those people are living under governments with very bad principles. As American Christians living in the most prosperous nation on the earth; it is our duty to help our fellow Christians around the world. You can't do that effectively if you are poor yourself. The Bible tells us to take care of the poor. So there will be the poor but also God's word does have principles in it to help people rise above poverty, if they so desire.

  • i agree! shalom!

  • thank you for responding to my comment.we will have to agree to dis-agree! frankly,the prosperity gospel or word of faith teaching is not biblical! these teachings come from eisegesis of scripture and not proper exegesis! true prosperity comes from your position in christ not how much money you have or don't have!

  • Actually, I think that is where we do agree. As I state in the video money is only 1slice in the prosperity pie. I called it success. Success in Christ is all that is needed. However, I believe that position in Christ spills over to your natural life and affects it as well. I believe it will affect your money especially if your #1 desire is to get the gospel out so others will receive access to this same position in Christ that you have. Afterall how can they believe in Him they have not heard.

  • the problem with the so called prosperity gospel is not a matter of wether or not we need money! of course we need money in our society! money pays bills,buys food,clothes,nessessities etc.the problem is the doctrine or teaching of the word faith doctrine or false teaching.everything they teach from the nature of god to the deity and purpose in christ's coming is false.god gave us a way to make money by the way it's called "work" ever heard of it? a guy called adam he did it! try it!

  • Thanks for your response, I grossly disagree with your assesment of the Word of Faith. In my talk I specifically talked about a school teacher which is a job and it requires work. There are bad apples in any belief system, but I personally believe what I believe because of the Bible. Thanks again.

  • ~~((hugz)) from LTHC Memphis~~

    my sentiments EXACTLY...... Amen Bro Dre....

    **Heard yall were pregnant again....if so, CONGRATS!! :)**

  • No mam that is incorrect. The truth is she delivered March 2nd.  :-) Much luv back to LTHC Memphis and Bishop Philemon Turner.

  • Thats great!! :)

    It probably was a couple of months ago that I heard that....so it might've been correct when i first heard it *LOL* :)

  • Well Andre, that was a good basic explanation

    about Prosperity and the Body of CHRIST.

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  • Your assessment of this word you have humbly described as a "perspective" is actually the truth, and it is very sound and clear...you keep talking like that you'll start sounding as wise as me pretty soon...LOL! I love your ministry bro, I hope that one day I can come hear you in person. You're blessed already so I don't have to tell you to be what you are - peace be unto you and yours.

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