Wow buddy, Im really not trying to be an asshole but thats simply the truth. ICAO stands for International Civil Aviation Organization and YES ask ANY non-US pilot and they will tell you that they have taken english courses and had to pass a radio operators permit license test to be eligible for any pilot certificate. Im not "going off" with my thoughts. Its merely the truth, if you can't handle it then don't fly. I wouldn't be upset if I had to learn German to fly. Its just the way it is. Sorry
Well don't forget that hyperthermia got an effect on human mood, and enduring such conditions make a subject being aggressive, and that is exactly what happened with the IP. You can even notice at the end of the video when the stud finally turn the ACS to cold that IP progressively is calming down. Of course yelling loudly at a student, particularly a foreign isn't best solution to teach something to someone. But given the conditions and temperature that cabin can reach you can understand that
@Twix101 No disrespect but English is the aviation language of the world. Its stated clearly by the ICAO so my true reaction to this movie other than laughing my ass off is that this pilot should not be anywhere near the cockpit until he/she can read, write, and understand the english language. That's the International law lol and thats why all ATC facilities anywhere in the world speak understandable English. I think the IP did the absolute right thing under the circumstances.
@Twix101 Hey sorry Twix, I meant to direct that response to FixFalcon. I had to train with Indian and Chinese pilots here in Arizona and the language barrier was so bad that it caused safety problems. I know you understand what Im saying and I just think these pilots should be forced to learn the language or stay in an airspace where communication is not required. Golf airspace in particular.
@FixFalcon - Get a flight instructor certificate, get some years of experience as an flight instructor, and then talk about teaching someone in "life-threatening emergencies. Don't cover up bad flight instructors that are unprofessional and who don't know how to teach, they are everywhere, and the Air Force, obviously is not exempt. If you think yelling at someone is the way to teach, you need to go back and read up on the "Fundamentals of Instructions".
Wow, shows the unprofessionalism on behalf of the Air Force IP. Yelling and cussing at a student in a high stress situation is not how you train someone.
@DGajre777 That is exactly how you train someone who could potentially be in a life-threatening situation. You think war is all about rainbows and butterflies? It's all about performing under extreme circumstances, something I'm sure you know nothing about, fruitcake.
@DGajre777 No disrespect but English is the aviation language of the world. Its stated clearly by the ICAO so my true reaction to this movie other than laughing my ass off is that this pilot should not be anywhere near the cockpit until he/she can read, write, and understand the english language. That's the International law lol and thats why all ATC facilities anywhere in the world speak understandable English. I think the IP did the absolute right thing under the circumstances.
@iFlyFPV bro in egypt they fly in arabic .. in germany they fly in german .. in France they fly with french .. in china .. russia .. north korea ..ect
it's just some countries trying to be nice and make it with english .. so dont go far away with your stupid thoughts bro !!
@MeshariMA90 English is definitely the international language of aviation. Every ATC speaks english and that's what they use in other countries. Korean pilots talking to korean atc speak in english.
Note at 2:05 that noisy background sound quitens down when the guy actually realised what he was on about, that must have been the sound of the heat in the background.
For you people who have never flown in a T-38 then you have no clue what you are talking about. I am a T-38 IP and the temp control is only in the front seat. Not only does it get extremely HOT it is also very LOUD! That is why the IP is having to yell. Pilots have had to jettison canopies before because the control was stuck in full hot. Plus add the language barrier and flying over 400mph you can see a dangerous situation developing.
Bad instructor! Loosing his cool (in both ways) is not likely to get the desired result out of a student. It must have been hot in there, but I hope he apologized to the student at the debrief.
the instructor was sitting at the back of the t38 n the jap trainee pilot was infront n the temp switch is infront on the trainee seat. the trainee forget to switch the heater off n the pilot behind is baking.
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Well, you get my opinion, cocksucker.
You are the most pompous idiot I have seen in quite a while. If the fucking Jap knew how to understand English, then there would not have been an issue.
It clearly states in the op manual for that plane that in the event of a failure of the heating system, WHICH CAN INCLUDE THE OPERATION OF THE COCKPIT HEATING SYSTEM BY AN IDIOT, that one of the courses of action is to jettison the canopy. It does NOT say "speak Japanese and pray." Clearly a better one...
no no no, YOU"RE THE MOST POMPUS IDIOT ALL OVER YOUTUBE. and if the IP knew japanese then maybe it wouldn't have been bad. and it does not say "LEARN ENGLISH AND PRAY" clearly not a better one.
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Look Rice Paddy Daddy, the ONLY reason you are going to this extreme is because you are a slant-eyed Slope, and are supporting your Asian Brother is his war against the Yankee Air Pirate in the back seat - whose GRANDFATHER spent his career shooting down YOUR Grandfather, and whose father probably bombed your parents village.
I can respect that.
But you need to put the math books down and pick up an ENG/101 book, and learn some sarcasm. You are STILL wrong.
what tha fuck? that was the dumbest shit i ever read! makes no sense! its no wonder because you're the dumbass yourself! haha look at you, trying to reverse what you last said! you're going extreme through your fucking lame ass comeback! as you said, I AM RIGHT!!!!! dont try to reverse your sentences dumbass lol. i do know sarcasm because you obviously understood it. and no im not stupid, YOU ARE BAKA TARE DUMBSHIT=) well, it looks like you should hit those english books now and study!
No offense man, but the OFFICIAL language of aviation is ENGLISH. Not to mention he was flying in a UNITED STATES AIR FORCE Aircraft. The onus is on the visiting pilot to speak the language. Why should the IP have to speak Japanese? Much less an obscure word like "cold"?
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ok now you're getting ridiculously stupid, i said if the pilot knew how to say cold in japanese then he shouldve said it! it doesnt matter what the official language of aviation is! the japanese pilot obviously didnt understand the IP and ENGLISH...........stop trying to sound smart and make it seem like you know eveything. all i said was he shouldve said samui if he knew how and i love this video because its funny. i didnt ask for your smart ass opinion.
I do not feel bad for this student at all. He couldn't understand basic English commands. He doesn't belong up there. If I were the IP, I'd be pissed too because it could be life threatening.
Agreed, if the student doesnt know the difference between hot and cold you have to wonder what other basic commands that ATC could give him that he wouldnt understand like climb, descend, slow to, etc.
Apparently the heater in the Talon is a thing of wonder, the cockpit can rapidly reach 150 degrees F. This could lead to all kinds of issues. The checklist calls for a hole to be punched in the canopy if the heat can't be turned off. The next step is to actually jettisomn the canopy, So O-F-F is a big deal!
Having said that, it must have been really tense for the instructor not to be understood, giving a vital command!! Maybe they should get the student over an intercom on the ground and run him through different commands, make sure he understands them, because that was well dangerous! We say off: oooooffffff; this guy seem to say it as: auuuuf, and the on is more auuuun. Its all about getting used to other pronunciations.
it is hard to work out what that bloke is saying!! Maybe, its because i am english and not american, but it does honestly sound like he's saying "on!". For a bit there, I was confused too! Also, its when people start shouting like that people f**k up! The guy probably hears "on!" too. The instructor need to cool his jets if he wants his student to do as he asked!!! Now if the student said "Your wrong, im doing it my way", then he would be justifed in shouting!
true, technically it should have be obvious, but once you start shouting at someone and they get flustered, they arent thinking as good as they would have been - they get more confused. he could have thought he was saying that is was off and needed to be turned on, even though it might not make sense. Maybe they should make sure pilot and instructor can understand each other over intercom before first flight?
I appreciate your point of view, but 3 points, having been there. 1) Before strapping into the T-38, a student spends SIX MONTHS in the basic trainer. To be passed to the T-38, you need to be able to communicate. 2) Before and after every flight the student and instructor have a pre-brief and post-brief. 3) Having the heat up all the way can make the instructor pass out. Whereupon the student and instructor COULD DIE. This isn't about being yelled at, it's about life and death.
I'm sure it is a case of life and death. It must have been really stressful for the instructor not to be understood. Im sure training is stringent! What I meant was that a problem arose between the student (who doesnt speak English as first language) and the instructor, who despite having a rather strong accent, would be understood by most people, especially when he spelt o.f.f.
Sometimes a foreign person can understand only formal accents, and thats why I said they could have done a pre-flight check to see if he understands that instructor. I meant, when a person gets heated, attempts at formal speech really break down. Not meaning to poke my nose in, but it touched a nerve with my own experiences over intercoms - lol.
Yes, and I said that before every flight there is a pre-flight brief. The student and the instructor sit at a desk in the squadron room and review what is going to be done during the upcoming flight. That's number one.
Number two. At the beginning of T-38 training, a student is required to study for, and pass, an exercise in which he not only demonstrates command of all the switches and knobs on the control panel, but CAN WORK THEM ON COMMAND WITH HIS EYES CLOSED. (In case something like a bird strike comes thru the front windscreen and blinds but not incapacitates the student.) THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR A STUDENT NOT TO KNOW HOW TO WORK THE CONTROLS OR WHAT THE I.P. IS ASKING HIM TO DO.
Number three. You don't find it a bit curious that you, who have never been a T-38 IP, are arguing WITH a former T-38 IP, about what happened in this video and whether or not the student knew what they hell they were doing? To the point where it was possibly endangering the aircraft, the student's life, the IP's life, and people on the ground? I think I can evaluate what was going on on the video just wee bit more than you can. And that's the last word.
Not disregarding what you say. ANd your right; I have zero exp with the T38 and you have loads. Im not arguing with you at all, sorry if it came across that way! I thought you misunderstood me, so i put it another way. OK, With all that behind him, I'm at a total lose as to why the student is so bad at understanding his instructor speaking plain english to him. He keeps saying "what?" again and again and again. Even when its explained to him, he still doesnt understand what the problem is?
Wow, I find it a bit insulting that you use the constant name dropping of being an IP to prove a point that your the only one thats right. Not to mention the fact that just because you indicate that your a T-38 IP doesn't mean that you really are. I'm a Navy F-18 pilot turned NASA Shuttle pilot who has 4 space flights under his belt. Do you believe me? Then again, who are you to discredit what I'm saying. Catch my drift? And thats the last word.
Hey StillRockin, stop taking yourself so seriously you dope. It's a funny video, leave it at that. Ooooo "I was an IP". Big deal you idiot. By the way, at the end of "number three" you said "and that's the last word", yet you kept posting points! Shut up already! We all know that NCO's run the show in the military. So go back to brown-nosing of the Wing King and telling your (LMAO) "IP stories". By the way, not many women get wet for "trainers". LOL!!
Don't even try the officer/NCO class warfare thing with me - my dad retired as an Air Force Master Sergeant. I know better than anybody else that it's the airmen and NCOs that make the military work, I grew up watching my dad do it every day until he retired when I was in high school. Sounds to me like you just have a chip on your shoulder.
And having wasted time on those other two posts, the one thing I do know is that life is too short to waste time on flame wars on YouTube. Have a nice life, redpony.
I admit it's funny to listen to but highly unprofessional. I think anyone running a CRM course would use this as an example of how NOT to react in the cockpit.
ya, im commenting on my own video... all you fags out there on the IPs side, dont be gay.... this is funny shit... im pretty sure he was doing this on purpose and the IP fell into the trap, HILARIOUS.. dont be gay...
Ok guys seriously I totaly side with the IP (instructor Pilot) on this one. if the student didnt know enough to turn the fucking heat off at that point in his training then he needs an ass chewing. its not exactly the best example of CRM but fuck it have you ever flown in an aircraft that fucking high in flight gear. Its fucking hot!
No, the environmental controls are only in the front. After takeoff, we turn the system to full hot blowing out any moisture preventing canopy fog in the descent. Sometimes the system fails in auto and you have to flip a switch to turn it to manual. Rarely the system can get suck full hot (it is just a DC diverter valve controlling the mixture of bleed air vs outside air). It can be an emergency if not fixed. Supposedly it was getting so hot, the IP was considering jettisoning the canopy.
EN, how long have you been at Sheppard? Ill be at the Academy next year vying for a UPT slot and would love the opportunity to go to ENJJPT. Im sure the obvious language barriers present a problem when dealing with foreign studs and IPs, but is there anything else that would cause a student wish he was at another UPT base? Other than Witchita Falls being the armpit of America haha, thanks in advance for your help Sir.
Stang, I've been at Sheppard for a year... graduate in a few weeks. The language barrier really isn't a big deal, everyone here speaks english. The ONLY reason you wouldn't want to come here is if you weren't 100% sure you want to fly fighters...since there is no other track option. Also, Wichita Falls is not as bad as the other pilot training bases (with the exception of Whiting Field). Good luck at the AFA. Feel free to PM with with any other questions.
He understands "Check the cabin pressure" at the end, but doesn't understand "turn the heat off"? One would think this would be a funny joke to pull on your IP...
This isn't an issue of it being a little warm in the cockpit. We are talking about 500 degree bleed air and the possibility of over pressurizing the cabin...a situation where they may need to jettison the canopy. The Air Force needs a certain level of competence in their personnel, especially pilots; this is why we only take the best, unlike other some other services.
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Well this was some asian dude, who let's an asian fly anyway. Marines are a real group of aviators, smart enough not to let asiann exchange pilots come and fly.
Americaowns, I know most Marines are not as uninformed as you are but when you say stupid shit like that you discredit your entire service with your ignorance.
Actually yea in some circumstances the Japanese will go to pilot training with the Marines. My cousin is in Pensacola right now and is learning to fly with and from all sorts of people from different parts of the world.
Actually, The Navy has the best, most well rounded pilots in the US. And speaking from personal experience, it's a lot more difficult to get into the Navy's fighter program than it is the Airforce's. Not to mention the age cut off in the Navy is a lot younger. I'd like to see an Air Force pilot try and land an F-18 on a pitching deck of a battle cruiser.
There is no best.....both the Air Force and Navy are excellent pilots. Just because Navy pilots land on carriers don't mean they're better. Please remember that.
The first half(T-6) of AF/Navy training is nearly identical (few differences). Follow on track training 38's, IFF - I imagine that is probably different, but I haven't been through BOTH (and I doubt anyone has).
What, did you develop and then execute some kind of cross-service checkride profile to objectively evaluate and quantify the skills of AF vs Navy Pilots?
No? Are you completely making shit up and insulting thousands of dedicated men and women in the process? Yes.
@blindbubba Dont get your panties in a rumble son, this is a matter of opinion, and I take your credibility just as seriously as every other Tom Dick and Harry on this forum, which isn't saying much. So, with that being said, how do you "know" that the Navy/AF flight curriculum is almost identical? I'm just suppose to take your word for it? And I'm not "insulting" any other service members, you're taking my statement out of context.
Well here is some advice which will help you out. "Do some fucking research". Look for USAF/USN T-6 Syllabus. I don't have to lay all that out here though.
You have to understand that it is very clear that you have little to no experience in military flying and "don't know what the fuck you are talking about". Comparing the skill of USAF/USN isn't a subjective debate. You REALLY feel qualified to have a credible opinion? You have done REAL research?
@nick42701 In addition - your main defense is that no one online really has any credibility to other people. Good point. But now look at yourself. Flying jets is one of the most demanding/complex tasks a man can undertake. UPT takes a year, follow on FTU takes more time after that. And you CLEARLY have been through neither. You lack BASIC knowledge of EITHER training program. And YOU know that. Why defend yourself if you fucking KNOW that you don't know shit about the topic? What the fuck?
@nick42701 i don't know if the nickiandjason is really an instructor pilot but i was a t-38 undergraduate just a few months ago and what he was saying is true: there is only a temperature control knob in the front seat, and it can get hot as hell inside if it gets stuck in close!The thing is there is no OFF on the control knob, just cold or hot, but indeed it gets really hot and really loud!!And also there were guys who jettison their canopies(i was told)rather than land with it in full hot!
@nick42701 Actually - never mind an Air Force pilot, I would like to see a Navy pilot try and land an F-18 on the deck of a battle cruiser too... Ill have to check my old NATOPS manual - but back in my day we only landed fixed wing aircraft on carriers.... Since when does the USN have "battlecruisers" anyway? I thought the Washington Naval Treaty ended battle cruisers...
There's nothing personal, you're in tandem seats and the student has most of the switches up front. This instructor was actually nicer than some orangutans I flew with in Vance AFB back in the 80's!
The three pillars of UPT education back then were Fear, Sarcasm, and Ridicule, and if you can't put up with it during a vanilla flight over the USA then you won't function in combat with the bad guys.
Excellent training technique. Learning to fly a T-38 with a jack%$@ in the backseat screaming at you is a waste of time. If the student doesn't know how to run a checklist, what is he doing in the front seat of a Talon speeding toward the practice area at 450 knots? This is basic stuff that should have been cought in a CPT or simulator.
Becoming an Air Force pilot is a very strenuous task and when you screw up, you get yelled at, especially when you have a O5 instructing your UPT course. If you get your feelings hurt because an instructor yells at you, you don't have what it takes to be an Air Force pilot.
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what a jerk, great instructional technique. he just wasted 4 minutes telling the guy to turn the heat off that was off. Wouldn't even tell the student what was wrong when he asked. Great teacher, take a pill dude.
I thought it was a typical T-38 IP acting like a cockbag.
Slilock 2 weeks ago
Everyone knows this was a joke right? On the guys last ride.
michaelbrewer83 1 month ago
You all are incorrect. Engrish is spoken by ATC in Asia.
raj242005 1 month ago
Wow buddy, Im really not trying to be an asshole but thats simply the truth. ICAO stands for International Civil Aviation Organization and YES ask ANY non-US pilot and they will tell you that they have taken english courses and had to pass a radio operators permit license test to be eligible for any pilot certificate. Im not "going off" with my thoughts. Its merely the truth, if you can't handle it then don't fly. I wouldn't be upset if I had to learn German to fly. Its just the way it is. Sorry
iFlyFPV 1 month ago
@iFlyFPV I just saw another reply about language and was about to post about ICAO and saw yours. Beat me to it
cadinst 1 week ago
the cold is off :))
hiroadrunner 2 months ago
uhh.... somebody got a U for the day
mhspv06 2 months ago
What's he say at 1:06?
StickandRuddur 2 months ago
What?
dLimboStick 2 months ago
Well don't forget that hyperthermia got an effect on human mood, and enduring such conditions make a subject being aggressive, and that is exactly what happened with the IP. You can even notice at the end of the video when the stud finally turn the ACS to cold that IP progressively is calming down. Of course yelling loudly at a student, particularly a foreign isn't best solution to teach something to someone. But given the conditions and temperature that cabin can reach you can understand that
Twix101 5 months ago
@Twix101 No disrespect but English is the aviation language of the world. Its stated clearly by the ICAO so my true reaction to this movie other than laughing my ass off is that this pilot should not be anywhere near the cockpit until he/she can read, write, and understand the english language. That's the International law lol and thats why all ATC facilities anywhere in the world speak understandable English. I think the IP did the absolute right thing under the circumstances.
iFlyFPV 3 months ago
@Twix101 Hey sorry Twix, I meant to direct that response to FixFalcon. I had to train with Indian and Chinese pilots here in Arizona and the language barrier was so bad that it caused safety problems. I know you understand what Im saying and I just think these pilots should be forced to learn the language or stay in an airspace where communication is not required. Golf airspace in particular.
iFlyFPV 3 months ago
@FixFalcon - Get a flight instructor certificate, get some years of experience as an flight instructor, and then talk about teaching someone in "life-threatening emergencies. Don't cover up bad flight instructors that are unprofessional and who don't know how to teach, they are everywhere, and the Air Force, obviously is not exempt. If you think yelling at someone is the way to teach, you need to go back and read up on the "Fundamentals of Instructions".
DGajre777 5 months ago
i want you to turn the fucking heat off !
casp3rization 5 months ago
Wow, shows the unprofessionalism on behalf of the Air Force IP. Yelling and cussing at a student in a high stress situation is not how you train someone.
DGajre777 6 months ago
@DGajre777 That is exactly how you train someone who could potentially be in a life-threatening situation. You think war is all about rainbows and butterflies? It's all about performing under extreme circumstances, something I'm sure you know nothing about, fruitcake.
FixFalcon 5 months ago
@DGajre777 No disrespect but English is the aviation language of the world. Its stated clearly by the ICAO so my true reaction to this movie other than laughing my ass off is that this pilot should not be anywhere near the cockpit until he/she can read, write, and understand the english language. That's the International law lol and thats why all ATC facilities anywhere in the world speak understandable English. I think the IP did the absolute right thing under the circumstances.
iFlyFPV 3 months ago
@iFlyFPV bro in egypt they fly in arabic .. in germany they fly in german .. in France they fly with french .. in china .. russia .. north korea ..ect
it's just some countries trying to be nice and make it with english .. so dont go far away with your stupid thoughts bro !!
MeshariMA90 1 month ago
@MeshariMA90 English is definitely the international language of aviation. Every ATC speaks english and that's what they use in other countries. Korean pilots talking to korean atc speak in english.
cadinst 1 month ago
@cadinst hahaha duude you are totally wrooong
MeshariMA90 1 month ago
@cadinst what about germany and france and russia and iran and syria !!
some does and some not .. so just because some countries agrees .. it doesnt mean its " the language of aviation !!! "" loool
MeshariMA90 2 weeks ago
@MeshariMA90 You are wrong.
FixFalcon 2 weeks ago
Apparently it was 135 degrees and the guy was about to punch out.
TheCaptainSarge 7 months ago
Hop's over! Take me home :
WaffenWaffles 7 months ago
Hop's over! Take me phone!
WaffenWaffles 7 months ago
Priceless....
B1900pilot 9 months ago
Turn the heat off!!
What?
dork94596 9 months ago
EPIC VIDEO
RRocket25 10 months ago
Great video!!! Zero - pissed in about 10 seconds!!!!
ARTen308 10 months ago
YOU ALL NEED TO CHILL! THIS IS FUN!!!! FUCKIN RELAX!!!!
5flyboy5 1 year ago
this guys just mad cuz he sounds like a twelve year old
SecondsFromEternity 1 year ago
Wonder if the exchange flyer was a A.S.D.F jock.
Anyone got a better info on this?
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Jolfor83 1 year ago
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This seems fake....?
CanadianFighterPilo1 1 year ago
TURN THE HEAT OFF!! (pause) on?..NO OFF!! O-F-F! hahahaha
kylertuck 1 year ago 2
Haha, I train Chinese kids and this is every day in the cockpit for me.........
mojoespoon 1 year ago
@mojoespoon I feel ya bro. :)
mancer0 1 year ago
Way to go with the international relations jackass.
oisiaa 1 year ago
what?
werk25 1 year ago
"Turn the heat OFF!!!!" (pause)..."on?"
shpundergw 1 year ago
absolutely brilliant.... yes.. definitely the best and yes LMFAO too love it .....F@^## O...F...F
okhalahorse 2 years ago
O..F...F!!!!!
hhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!
LMFAO!!
S3OOODI3 2 years ago
Haha, this video is awesome. I can only imagine what the SP (or the IP for that matter!) is thinking.
dkF16GEA 2 years ago
Note at 2:05 that noisy background sound quitens down when the guy actually realised what he was on about, that must have been the sound of the heat in the background.
eatmoremonsters 2 years ago
What? Got to love the Saudis!
adthom46 2 years ago
For you people who have never flown in a T-38 then you have no clue what you are talking about. I am a T-38 IP and the temp control is only in the front seat. Not only does it get extremely HOT it is also very LOUD! That is why the IP is having to yell. Pilots have had to jettison canopies before because the control was stuck in full hot. Plus add the language barrier and flying over 400mph you can see a dangerous situation developing.
nickiandjason 2 years ago 2
jetison canopy... as in eject?... and lose aircraft over stuck heat control?
tessler6868 2 years ago
You can jettison 1 or both canopies without ejecting and still fly the aircraft.
nickiandjason 2 years ago
thanx. don't know from fighters. just bombers.
tessler6868 2 years ago
Bad instructor! Loosing his cool (in both ways) is not likely to get the desired result out of a student. It must have been hot in there, but I hope he apologized to the student at the debrief.
flynegative 2 years ago
(And I mean 'bad instructor' in a slapped wrist and exclamation mark kinda way, not a write-off useless kind of way).
flynegative 2 years ago
oh holy HIGH-larious
emilyschwenkler 2 years ago
o f f !! Win
dodi2007 2 years ago
:)))))
hiroadrunner 2 years ago
...anyone care to explain what's going on?
nonane 2 years ago
the instructor was sitting at the back of the t38 n the jap trainee pilot was infront n the temp switch is infront on the trainee seat. the trainee forget to switch the heater off n the pilot behind is baking.
wingyip 2 years ago
That instructor should be sacked, what a complete loser...
Tordan69 2 years ago
i can barely see what i'm typing through the tears i'm laughing so hard
itsmcconnell84 2 years ago
lmao
EStrike101 2 years ago
they were screwing with the IP. He's a douche and all he ever did was yell.
AFFEE3 2 years ago
What does he mean by Heat? is that Afterburner
dynamicz108 2 years ago
heat just like you have heat in your car, it was on and he was hot
KVStanley 2 years ago
Orite hahaha thats quality
dynamicz108 2 years ago
This gets funny and more funny every time I watch it:)
asianbakerman 2 years ago
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bah haha!!!
mgr6v382 2 years ago
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Well, you get my opinion, cocksucker.
You are the most pompous idiot I have seen in quite a while. If the fucking Jap knew how to understand English, then there would not have been an issue.
It clearly states in the op manual for that plane that in the event of a failure of the heating system, WHICH CAN INCLUDE THE OPERATION OF THE COCKPIT HEATING SYSTEM BY AN IDIOT, that one of the courses of action is to jettison the canopy. It does NOT say "speak Japanese and pray." Clearly a better one...
darrellparkhill 2 years ago
no no no, YOU"RE THE MOST POMPUS IDIOT ALL OVER YOUTUBE. and if the IP knew japanese then maybe it wouldn't have been bad. and it does not say "LEARN ENGLISH AND PRAY" clearly not a better one.
dimitri02 2 years ago
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Christ on a Pogo-Stick, I am arguing with a jackass that is slower than a bus load of retards on their way to Chuck E. Cheese...
You're right. I'm wrong.
Fucktard.
darrellparkhill 2 years ago
thankyou. I AM RIGHT YOU ARE WRONG. thanks for admitting it dumbass=)
dimitri02 2 years ago
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Look Rice Paddy Daddy, the ONLY reason you are going to this extreme is because you are a slant-eyed Slope, and are supporting your Asian Brother is his war against the Yankee Air Pirate in the back seat - whose GRANDFATHER spent his career shooting down YOUR Grandfather, and whose father probably bombed your parents village.
I can respect that.
But you need to put the math books down and pick up an ENG/101 book, and learn some sarcasm. You are STILL wrong.
Baka tare.
darrellparkhill 2 years ago
what tha fuck? that was the dumbest shit i ever read! makes no sense! its no wonder because you're the dumbass yourself! haha look at you, trying to reverse what you last said! you're going extreme through your fucking lame ass comeback! as you said, I AM RIGHT!!!!! dont try to reverse your sentences dumbass lol. i do know sarcasm because you obviously understood it. and no im not stupid, YOU ARE BAKA TARE DUMBSHIT=) well, it looks like you should hit those english books now and study!
dimitri02 2 years ago
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If you don't get it, go back and try to read it again, Gook.
How is the lo mein tonight?
darrellparkhill 2 years ago
Wow, you really made a great impression being racist. You're an idiot.
d43e49 2 years ago
STFU. Nobody cares anymore.
darrellparkhill 2 years ago
the IP should've said SAMUI which means cold in japanese.......but this is fucking hilarious
dimitri02 2 years ago
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No, he should have said "Turn the heat off."
And the student should have said "yes sir."
darrellparkhill 2 years ago
well the japanese guy didn't understand so he shouldve said SAMUI, makes it easier for the japanese guy
dimitri02 2 years ago
No offense man, but the OFFICIAL language of aviation is ENGLISH. Not to mention he was flying in a UNITED STATES AIR FORCE Aircraft. The onus is on the visiting pilot to speak the language. Why should the IP have to speak Japanese? Much less an obscure word like "cold"?
darrellparkhill 2 years ago
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ok now you're getting ridiculously stupid, i said if the pilot knew how to say cold in japanese then he shouldve said it! it doesnt matter what the official language of aviation is! the japanese pilot obviously didnt understand the IP and ENGLISH...........stop trying to sound smart and make it seem like you know eveything. all i said was he shouldve said samui if he knew how and i love this video because its funny. i didnt ask for your smart ass opinion.
dimitri02 2 years ago
I do not feel bad for this student at all. He couldn't understand basic English commands. He doesn't belong up there. If I were the IP, I'd be pissed too because it could be life threatening.
vidwatcher20099 3 years ago
Agreed, if the student doesnt know the difference between hot and cold you have to wonder what other basic commands that ATC could give him that he wouldnt understand like climb, descend, slow to, etc.
KVStanley 2 years ago
I feel bad...
Devilockjesus 3 years ago
Why do I have this urge to visit my local 7/11 ?
bluehachiroku 3 years ago
whoo hoo hoo ha! TURN THE FUCKING HEAT OFF ROFL
RofIcopter3 3 years ago
HAHA!
spencedogg17 3 years ago
Apparently the heater in the Talon is a thing of wonder, the cockpit can rapidly reach 150 degrees F. This could lead to all kinds of issues. The checklist calls for a hole to be punched in the canopy if the heat can't be turned off. The next step is to actually jettisomn the canopy, So O-F-F is a big deal!
faabound 3 years ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA....breath.....HAHAHAHAHA....
chadhockaday 3 years ago 2
fucking hilarious...
214MLI 3 years ago
lol
minasmd79 3 years ago
What? Turn the hest off!! O.F.F. !! ;D Dude..... any commentary is usless hahahaha
spookyNorbert 3 years ago
Reminds me of RAF WSO training!
2670714S 3 years ago
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It was too hot in the aircraft so he had to flip out on the guy. What a dickhead.
Excism 3 years ago
sooo hilarious! but i feel bad for the no speeka engaleesh guy ... it kinda sounds like it wasnt even his fault ^^
kickitgermany 3 years ago
No speeka engaleesh
Falcon1Raptor 3 years ago
what? ......haha soo coool
TopGunAnthem 3 years ago
easy, redpony. off your feed? your filly run off with a rodeo clown?
tessler6868 3 years ago
FRUSTRATING!
Floatsforlife 3 years ago
the IP is a hick
tessler6868 3 years ago
He should be Japanese SUPT guy、 right？
t38pit 3 years ago
Having said that, it must have been really tense for the instructor not to be understood, giving a vital command!! Maybe they should get the student over an intercom on the ground and run him through different commands, make sure he understands them, because that was well dangerous! We say off: oooooffffff; this guy seem to say it as: auuuuf, and the on is more auuuun. Its all about getting used to other pronunciations.
geoffart 3 years ago
it is hard to work out what that bloke is saying!! Maybe, its because i am english and not american, but it does honestly sound like he's saying "on!". For a bit there, I was confused too! Also, its when people start shouting like that people f**k up! The guy probably hears "on!" too. The instructor need to cool his jets if he wants his student to do as he asked!!! Now if the student said "Your wrong, im doing it my way", then he would be justifed in shouting!
geoffart 3 years ago
The instructor spelled O-F-F a bunch of times. What more should it have taken?
StillRockin77 3 years ago
true, technically it should have be obvious, but once you start shouting at someone and they get flustered, they arent thinking as good as they would have been - they get more confused. he could have thought he was saying that is was off and needed to be turned on, even though it might not make sense. Maybe they should make sure pilot and instructor can understand each other over intercom before first flight?
geoffart 3 years ago
I appreciate your point of view, but 3 points, having been there. 1) Before strapping into the T-38, a student spends SIX MONTHS in the basic trainer. To be passed to the T-38, you need to be able to communicate. 2) Before and after every flight the student and instructor have a pre-brief and post-brief. 3) Having the heat up all the way can make the instructor pass out. Whereupon the student and instructor COULD DIE. This isn't about being yelled at, it's about life and death.
StillRockin77 3 years ago 2
I'm sure it is a case of life and death. It must have been really stressful for the instructor not to be understood. Im sure training is stringent! What I meant was that a problem arose between the student (who doesnt speak English as first language) and the instructor, who despite having a rather strong accent, would be understood by most people, especially when he spelt o.f.f.
geoffart 3 years ago
Sometimes a foreign person can understand only formal accents, and thats why I said they could have done a pre-flight check to see if he understands that instructor. I meant, when a person gets heated, attempts at formal speech really break down. Not meaning to poke my nose in, but it touched a nerve with my own experiences over intercoms - lol.
geoffart 3 years ago
Yes, and I said that before every flight there is a pre-flight brief. The student and the instructor sit at a desk in the squadron room and review what is going to be done during the upcoming flight. That's number one.
StillRockin77 3 years ago
Number two. At the beginning of T-38 training, a student is required to study for, and pass, an exercise in which he not only demonstrates command of all the switches and knobs on the control panel, but CAN WORK THEM ON COMMAND WITH HIS EYES CLOSED. (In case something like a bird strike comes thru the front windscreen and blinds but not incapacitates the student.) THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR A STUDENT NOT TO KNOW HOW TO WORK THE CONTROLS OR WHAT THE I.P. IS ASKING HIM TO DO.
StillRockin77 3 years ago
Number three. You don't find it a bit curious that you, who have never been a T-38 IP, are arguing WITH a former T-38 IP, about what happened in this video and whether or not the student knew what they hell they were doing? To the point where it was possibly endangering the aircraft, the student's life, the IP's life, and people on the ground? I think I can evaluate what was going on on the video just wee bit more than you can. And that's the last word.
StillRockin77 3 years ago
Not disregarding what you say. ANd your right; I have zero exp with the T38 and you have loads. Im not arguing with you at all, sorry if it came across that way! I thought you misunderstood me, so i put it another way. OK, With all that behind him, I'm at a total lose as to why the student is so bad at understanding his instructor speaking plain english to him. He keeps saying "what?" again and again and again. Even when its explained to him, he still doesnt understand what the problem is?
geoffart 3 years ago
Wow, I find it a bit insulting that you use the constant name dropping of being an IP to prove a point that your the only one thats right. Not to mention the fact that just because you indicate that your a T-38 IP doesn't mean that you really are. I'm a Navy F-18 pilot turned NASA Shuttle pilot who has 4 space flights under his belt. Do you believe me? Then again, who are you to discredit what I'm saying. Catch my drift? And thats the last word.
nick42701 2 years ago
Hey StillRockin, stop taking yourself so seriously you dope. It's a funny video, leave it at that. Ooooo "I was an IP". Big deal you idiot. By the way, at the end of "number three" you said "and that's the last word", yet you kept posting points! Shut up already! We all know that NCO's run the show in the military. So go back to brown-nosing of the Wing King and telling your (LMAO) "IP stories". By the way, not many women get wet for "trainers". LOL!!
Red02Pony 3 years ago
Don't even try the officer/NCO class warfare thing with me - my dad retired as an Air Force Master Sergeant. I know better than anybody else that it's the airmen and NCOs that make the military work, I grew up watching my dad do it every day until he retired when I was in high school. Sounds to me like you just have a chip on your shoulder.
StillRockin77 3 years ago
And no I didn't keep posting points, you're not looking at the posts properly. Except for these two responses which I shouldn't have bothered doing.
And best regards to geoffart - I can see how there can be all kinds of different responses and ways of looking at this video.
StillRockin77 3 years ago
And having wasted time on those other two posts, the one thing I do know is that life is too short to waste time on flame wars on YouTube. Have a nice life, redpony.
StillRockin77 3 years ago
GO COLD!!! JESUS CHRIST!!!
fuck it just eject man.
DriftwiseS15 3 years ago 2
O! F! F! OFF!!! lmao...i nearly fell out of my chair laughing.
Red02Pony 3 years ago
I admit it's funny to listen to but highly unprofessional. I think anyone running a CRM course would use this as an example of how NOT to react in the cockpit.
dModer101 3 years ago
WTF.... this is fun!!!
grove005 3 years ago
It's not his fault.
Heater switch was actually OFF position.
Heater itself was broken.
That's why student confused....
ss49157 3 years ago
1:45, "TURN THE FUCKING HEAT OFF....on?" LMAO
wolf1010 3 years ago
ya, im commenting on my own video... all you fags out there on the IPs side, dont be gay.... this is funny shit... im pretty sure he was doing this on purpose and the IP fell into the trap, HILARIOUS.. dont be gay...
topgun1851 3 years ago
LOL.
ohhh my God.....
katwomanx001 3 years ago
Ok guys seriously I totaly side with the IP (instructor Pilot) on this one. if the student didnt know enough to turn the fucking heat off at that point in his training then he needs an ass chewing. its not exactly the best example of CRM but fuck it have you ever flown in an aircraft that fucking high in flight gear. Its fucking hot!
potts22d 3 years ago
Shouting never helps, poor guy. Sounds like miscommunication and the heat was off.
ChasenSFO 3 years ago
shouting doesnt really help but its funny for us lol
jwalsh8 3 years ago 2
Oh Ef Ef !
BarrykeNL 3 years ago
Managed to keep a somewhat-straight face until the end. "So what was wrong?" XD
TNSFE 3 years ago
wat
Robotor77 3 years ago
hahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhaahahahahahhahahahhahaha this has got to be a joke!
911Muscles 3 years ago
funny shit.... must have felt like an oven in there
draaken8 3 years ago
so there is no heat control switcher in the rear cabin of a T 38 ?
hayducs 3 years ago
No, the environmental controls are only in the front. After takeoff, we turn the system to full hot blowing out any moisture preventing canopy fog in the descent. Sometimes the system fails in auto and you have to flip a switch to turn it to manual. Rarely the system can get suck full hot (it is just a DC diverter valve controlling the mixture of bleed air vs outside air). It can be an emergency if not fixed. Supposedly it was getting so hot, the IP was considering jettisoning the canopy.
ENSTUD 3 years ago
Thanks, I got it now.
hayducs 3 years ago
EN, how long have you been at Sheppard? Ill be at the Academy next year vying for a UPT slot and would love the opportunity to go to ENJJPT. Im sure the obvious language barriers present a problem when dealing with foreign studs and IPs, but is there anything else that would cause a student wish he was at another UPT base? Other than Witchita Falls being the armpit of America haha, thanks in advance for your help Sir.
Tocs
stangme27 3 years ago
Stang, I've been at Sheppard for a year... graduate in a few weeks. The language barrier really isn't a big deal, everyone here speaks english. The ONLY reason you wouldn't want to come here is if you weren't 100% sure you want to fly fighters...since there is no other track option. Also, Wichita Falls is not as bad as the other pilot training bases (with the exception of Whiting Field). Good luck at the AFA. Feel free to PM with with any other questions.
ENSTUD 3 years ago
He understands "Check the cabin pressure" at the end, but doesn't understand "turn the heat off"? One would think this would be a funny joke to pull on your IP...
xxxjibootyxxx 3 years ago
Oh... my.... god....
bladedspokes 3 years ago
TURN THE HEAT OFF!
ON?
NO!!! O-F-F!!
Terr0risT100 3 years ago
Marines don't cry about Heat. We like it. AirForce, gotta love'em.
OverniteSuccess 3 years ago 2
OverniteSuccess,
This isn't an issue of it being a little warm in the cockpit. We are talking about 500 degree bleed air and the possibility of over pressurizing the cabin...a situation where they may need to jettison the canopy. The Air Force needs a certain level of competence in their personnel, especially pilots; this is why we only take the best, unlike other some other services.
ENSTUD 3 years ago
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Well this was some asian dude, who let's an asian fly anyway. Marines are a real group of aviators, smart enough not to let asiann exchange pilots come and fly.
americaowns11 3 years ago
Americaowns, I know most Marines are not as uninformed as you are but when you say stupid shit like that you discredit your entire service with your ignorance.
ENSTUD 3 years ago
No worries, I'm not in the Marines.
americaowns11 3 years ago
Actually yea in some circumstances the Japanese will go to pilot training with the Marines. My cousin is in Pensacola right now and is learning to fly with and from all sorts of people from different parts of the world.
U2ONE08 3 years ago
Actually, The Navy has the best, most well rounded pilots in the US. And speaking from personal experience, it's a lot more difficult to get into the Navy's fighter program than it is the Airforce's. Not to mention the age cut off in the Navy is a lot younger. I'd like to see an Air Force pilot try and land an F-18 on a pitching deck of a battle cruiser.
nick42701 2 years ago
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melstrader 2 years ago
There is no best.....both the Air Force and Navy are excellent pilots. Just because Navy pilots land on carriers don't mean they're better. Please remember that.
dimitri02 2 years ago
I disagree with you that it's easier to get into the AF fighter program, but I think we can both agree that it's not easy getting into either!
splinter5050 2 years ago
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s5traut 2 years ago
The first half(T-6) of AF/Navy training is nearly identical (few differences). Follow on track training 38's, IFF - I imagine that is probably different, but I haven't been through BOTH (and I doubt anyone has).
What, did you develop and then execute some kind of cross-service checkride profile to objectively evaluate and quantify the skills of AF vs Navy Pilots?
No? Are you completely making shit up and insulting thousands of dedicated men and women in the process? Yes.
blindbubba 1 year ago
@blindbubba Dont get your panties in a rumble son, this is a matter of opinion, and I take your credibility just as seriously as every other Tom Dick and Harry on this forum, which isn't saying much. So, with that being said, how do you "know" that the Navy/AF flight curriculum is almost identical? I'm just suppose to take your word for it? And I'm not "insulting" any other service members, you're taking my statement out of context.
nick42701 1 year ago
Well here is some advice which will help you out. "Do some fucking research". Look for USAF/USN T-6 Syllabus. I don't have to lay all that out here though.
You have to understand that it is very clear that you have little to no experience in military flying and "don't know what the fuck you are talking about". Comparing the skill of USAF/USN isn't a subjective debate. You REALLY feel qualified to have a credible opinion? You have done REAL research?
blindbubba 1 year ago
@nick42701 In addition - your main defense is that no one online really has any credibility to other people. Good point. But now look at yourself. Flying jets is one of the most demanding/complex tasks a man can undertake. UPT takes a year, follow on FTU takes more time after that. And you CLEARLY have been through neither. You lack BASIC knowledge of EITHER training program. And YOU know that. Why defend yourself if you fucking KNOW that you don't know shit about the topic? What the fuck?
blindbubba 1 year ago
@nick42701 i don't know if the nickiandjason is really an instructor pilot but i was a t-38 undergraduate just a few months ago and what he was saying is true: there is only a temperature control knob in the front seat, and it can get hot as hell inside if it gets stuck in close!The thing is there is no OFF on the control knob, just cold or hot, but indeed it gets really hot and really loud!!And also there were guys who jettison their canopies(i was told)rather than land with it in full hot!
tojoferreira 1 year ago 2
@nick42701 Actually - never mind an Air Force pilot, I would like to see a Navy pilot try and land an F-18 on the deck of a battle cruiser too... Ill have to check my old NATOPS manual - but back in my day we only landed fixed wing aircraft on carriers.... Since when does the USN have "battlecruisers" anyway? I thought the Washington Naval Treaty ended battle cruisers...
AviatorAcademy 1 year ago
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Dont be so picky, you know I meant aircraft carrier, so quit trying to pick a fight.
nick42701 1 year ago
and who cries for all the air support?
dimitri02 2 years ago
ahh americans u cant even walk and why do u try to fly? lol...
cellatzeropoint 4 years ago
hahaha, like you have a better air force. are you fucking serious....still trying to figure out how to put the saddle on your jets eh? Fuck you
spartacus1287 4 years ago
Christ, did the backseater go to the "Terry Van Haren" school of instructing or what??!?
superfrozo 4 years ago
There's nothing personal, you're in tandem seats and the student has most of the switches up front. This instructor was actually nicer than some orangutans I flew with in Vance AFB back in the 80's!
The three pillars of UPT education back then were Fear, Sarcasm, and Ridicule, and if you can't put up with it during a vanilla flight over the USA then you won't function in combat with the bad guys.
artagus21 4 years ago
very true.... its just about the same still here. probably not as bad as in the '80s. most ips are pretty chill....some get your blood flowing.
specter9999 4 years ago
indians..
skymates84 4 years ago
...nothing comes close...
seanlee747 4 years ago
Nice, I was the controller talking to these guys...Always an adventure at CAFB...
callmeOD 4 years ago
I think I was stationed at CAFB when this happened....
590064 4 years ago
I dont think any of you were, and you are just trying to show off.
AirDude1213 4 years ago
@callmeOD hahahah, yep...good ole CAFB.
SpiritMatthias 1 year ago
CLASSIC video
burningcow422 4 years ago
Excellent training technique. Learning to fly a T-38 with a jack%$@ in the backseat screaming at you is a waste of time. If the student doesn't know how to run a checklist, what is he doing in the front seat of a Talon speeding toward the practice area at 450 knots? This is basic stuff that should have been cought in a CPT or simulator.
Bob757FL 4 years ago
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Don't you have to speak english in order to be a pilot?
That guy could barely speak english...
"SIR I DEEEED, I turnaoff---checka what--oh jess cabeen pressa---cabeen pressa"
What a fucking idiot!!!
"So whata was wrong?"
What a fucking piece of shit...I hope a terrorist gets them all!!!!
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
I'm evil.
Go fuck your grandmother you fucking dipshit mother fuckers!!!!
doodlesisgod 5 years ago
Good stuff. LOL!
illadvised50 5 years ago
what a fickin idiot.
tkwesa 5 years ago
Becoming an Air Force pilot is a very strenuous task and when you screw up, you get yelled at, especially when you have a O5 instructing your UPT course. If you get your feelings hurt because an instructor yells at you, you don't have what it takes to be an Air Force pilot.
Notsokoolaid84 5 years ago 2
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what a jerk, great instructional technique. he just wasted 4 minutes telling the guy to turn the heat off that was off. Wouldn't even tell the student what was wrong when he asked. Great teacher, take a pill dude.
raybanman 5 years ago