This is one of the earliest videos you will see of The Smiths. I wonder if Morrissey had any inkling of the important contribution he would make to music in the decades ahead. I did.
I'm a huge Smiths fan but I only came across this song a few days ago. It feels like they've come back and released a new single, amazing, especially this version!
@StirbOderFriss Er handelt von einem Mädchen, das er liebt, zu sprechen, aber sie ist nicht sehr schön, so genießt sie Auslösung Zwerge. In der nächsten Strophe besingt er ihr rauben aus dem blind. Entschudegung für mein schlechtes Deutsch ...
The smiths have inspired me in so many other ways than music, I just love the atmosphere and the uniqueness of Morrisseys voice. I have always had a strange voice which never fit in with what people expected so to find a unique personality, performer and singer be so heartfelt gives me hope.
I like how certain singers have that "just got out of bed" look - Kurt Cobain had that look as well. it's so far removed and refreshing from the overkill hyper fashion pop machine these days.
There is less art, more matter in what Morrissey says. That's why they jerked the volume up 50 % compared to other bands. It's like he's reading his diary out loud, put to the most beautiful music imaginable. Even if you can't relate to everything Moz has experienced, like all great art you still enjoy listening to it. Just the heartfeltness of his voice is enough. However, it doesn't hurt that most things he sings about are clear and easy to grasp.
THE SMITHS are the oxygen at my lungs! the veins and arteries in my blood! the essence of my soul! the reason I keep on living! LONG LIVE THE SMITHS!!!!!!!!!! the best band ever walked on the face of planet earth. period.
If you think this is good then you should download the Smiths live in Madrid, vintage live show, video is so so but sound is 9/10. play it to yourself with headphones in the dark as I do and it is almost like being there, heck I'll even send you the link, meet me at t he cemetery gates...
It hurts so much that The Smiths are gone and won't ever come back...but at the same time I'm glad we didn't have to watch them grow old and unoriginal. I'll always think of them as a very young band. Morrissey is great on his own too, but The Smiths to me are the most special band ever. There was something about what they did that just has not been matched by any other band or musician, before or since. I am comforted by their music, every time.
This band is a real and pure treasure among all the bullshit and crap....... both in music and in life!!!!! because their music is the real thing, even better than the real thing!!!!!
never before, never again... but it's one of those songs that make you wish all other songs were this emotive, genuine, and endearing-thank god for 'repeat' .
i couldn't agree with you more his music has inspired me in such a emotional way and i can relate to his music. In his songs you can hear a harmony tale its amazing.
A masterpiece then, now, and forever. Especially when this song meant so much more to me. Which it still does, but only in a different way. The Smiths are dead... long live The Smiths.
If you like The Smiths, you'll probably like For Against (at least, their album December, which is all I've heard of them). Their jangle-pop sensibilities will probably appeal.
Also, they don't really sound like The Smiths, but you might like The Chameleons. Maybe give Lloyd Cole & the Commotions a try (check out Forest Fire, Jennifer She Said and Lost Weekend for starters) too.
Suede, Gene, the Dentists and Smoking Popes were all imitators of the Smiths. Johnny Marr also once admitted that his inspiration for forming the Smiths were U2's "Boy" and the Cure's "Seventeen Seconds" (which, like the Smiths, have that thin, silvery kind of guitar sound).
Aren't b-sides the best? I fucking love this tune. "Ice water for blood with neither heart or spine..and just to pass time, let us go and rob the blind"
i agree with charming martin, not only that he is indeed right.
hes an amazing unique bassist and though johnny marr is utterly incredable it wouldnt be the same without andys basslines. people shouldnt just ingore andy and mick joyce they are outstanding at what they do, just because there was only two spaces to print morrisseys and marrs names the media ignores them.
The Smiths just have such replay value.. actually replay value is to weak of a term IMO... its that feeling of Rediscovering songs by them you have heard Countless times and falling in love with it all over again.. like a Wonderful Women that never gets old or boring... and i think ive met one...
andy wrote ALL the bass lines, the whole "writing rights" thing is based on the fact that legally the smiths were defined as "morrissey/marr" in the contracts and all the songs were credited that way (plus marr and moz wrote songs together as a duo for almost a year prior to the band forming), but andy and mike wrote their parts. Morrissey and Marr both have credited andy in later interviews saying that his bass playing sealed their success.
I believe ur right. I also read somewhere that Andy said that he played with Johnny since they were kids so he knew where Johnny comes from on the guitar. If u listen to the songs Andy matches his bass tunes to Johnny's guitar, Moz's voice and Mikes drums, and i don't think that Johnny is responnsible for the bass lines. He is one hell of a Bass player, totally underated compare to JM.
Andy is a really great musician, an so is mike on drums... If you see Moz in concert now, you can esily notice that when they play smiths songs of course no guitar player can match JM but also the drumming and the bass are far away from the smiths version... In roma they played How son is now and the drumming was really weak!
Andy wrote the bass line for Barbarism!.. or at least that's what J. Rogan says in his books
ur absolutely right, and that is why i can't listen to Moz performing the Smiths songs with his band. It is lacking the Smiths sound of JM guitar, Rourke bass and ,Mike's drums. For all Moz and Marr funs including me, they weren't the only geniuses.
This is definitely Andys bassline. But yeah, im sure Marr wrote some of the more catchy basslines, this is just sort of a standard bassline, nothing fancy. I seriously, can listen to a smiths song hundreds of time and think i know the song in and out, but then find something more. Small things here and there. Like one of the background guitars in There is a light, Some girls etc. some of my favorite the smiths songs right now r "You just havent " "Girl Afraid" "Well i Wonder""Nowhere fast" etc.
Nonsense! Andy Rourke wrote ALL the Smiths' basslines. 'Marr-esque'?! Andy had been playing with Johnny Marr since they were both 16 and so they obviously knew each others' styles inside out. Andy was and still is a fantastic bass player with brilliant diversity and astounding attention to melody. Make no mistake, he wrote every bassline.
That exactly is why the smiths are so amazing, every piece of the puzzle fits perfectly. The great bass lines, perfectly written guitar parts and finally morriseys voice.
In most rock bands the bass is seen as a part of the rythmic section, which isn't case with the smiths.
What a beautiful song. Should have put it on an album. I think I have this on a bootleg but its at my parents house. Saw them in 1986 in New York and they were better than you could imagine. Greatest band until Libertines, Babyshambles, DPT etc.
I think you're right about the Ritz. The first gig at the Hacienda was December 82 (this July 83 gig was the second one there). The 82 gig featured the version of Handsome Devil that's the B-side of Hand in Glove. They also played "What do you see in him?" at that gig which is the first version of Wonderful Woman. I have a mixing desk copy of the gig. They were very raw back then - but still excellent!
That 'mixing desk copy' is called Handsome Devils.
It was their third performance ever. Indeed very good, but they were playing very low (and because of that Morrissey sounds a bit frightening), I think Marr didn't tuned his guitar up already at that gig.
Also I think it is in What Difference Does It Make, there is a second voice next to Moz', I think it's Marr (it sounds awful).
I really, really, really agree with you. I guess I'm just being childlish, but it feels really unfair to be a smithsfan born in 1992 when there are so many people born in the late sixties or something like that who hasn't even heard the smiths. I'd love to switch. : O
Good song btw, had never heard it before. Thanks for posting it!
So glad someone has this. Wonderful Woman was the first smiths track I ever had (taped from the radio 1 Kid Jensen session - aired just before this gig and the best version for my money).
By the time I got to see them for the first time (oct 83), they had dropped it from the set - and never played it again live (to my knowledge).
It was always a hope, but the 17 times I saw them the buggers never once played it! I was always gutted. But so good to see this gig and this song here. Priceless!
i seen them 9 times first time dec 83 trinity college dublin last time fairways dundalk 86 at the gig in RAH also then again if i lived in England i think i would have seen em 109 times ur a cool dude man bye and its such a beautiful tune isnt it
Dermot - Good man! We share a gig! I was at Dundalk too! The June Brides supported (I was a big fan of them too). So I always remember that gig as being double good - my two favourites together! Also came away with a bit of Morrisey's shirt. And yes - a beautiful song!
This is absolutely brilliant. To be playing this great, folk-style, sorrowful sound in the Hacienda of all places--the stomping ground of New Order and the rave scene. New Order's "Blue Monday" was an enormous hit in 1982-1983, the dance anthem of Manchester arguably. It is so fantastic to see The Smiths opting to do something so entirely different, and so beautiful! I wish this song had had a wider release. Thanks for posting gem!!
Sublime.
This is one of the earliest videos you will see of The Smiths. I wonder if Morrissey had any inkling of the important contribution he would make to music in the decades ahead. I did.
THESM1THS 1 month ago
emozionante
silbaar 1 month ago
i hear pain in his voice.. it makes this song pure gold
stingme88x 2 months ago
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I'm a huge Smiths fan but I only came across this song a few days ago. It feels like they've come back and released a new single, amazing, especially this version!
slimjimmyg 2 months ago
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slimjimmyg 2 months ago
Wow. They really do have a song for every human experience.
123jsbach 3 months ago
sometimes i think that suede based their whole THING on this song
jarvizcocker 5 months ago
@jarvizcocker to bad then there is nothing from suede that can compare to this :I
IStehSHIT 3 months ago
@IStehSHIT lol well nothing really compares to the smiths.
jarvizcocker 3 months ago
perfeito igualzinho a musica !!!amo!!!*-*
anapaulacsilva 6 months ago
The more I ignore the Smiths music .... the closer I get.
ikawpipa 6 months ago
for the best girl girl ever...she is in zagreb and I'm not there by her side :(((((
elaton1234 6 months ago
the smiths - legends like the doors in their era. Kings of pop ... such brilliance only a few chosen can get to this level of talent.
johanesjuanes 7 months ago
The smiths vs Legião Urbana Brasil banda inspirada nos Smiths.
The best The Smiths a melhor de todas S.paulo!!!!
comprabreve 8 months ago
its almost as if he saw my life and wrote it
HerrVolkanberg 9 months ago
Oh, what to be done with her ?
uniseries 9 months ago
@uniseries oh.. what? to be done with her!
BL0CHEAD 2 months ago
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BL0CHEAD 2 months ago
Kann mir jemand sagen, was mit "to trip a dwarf" gemeint ist?
StirbOderFriss 10 months ago
@StirbOderFriss Es ist nur ein Witz. Es hat keine Meinung. Es tut mir leid aber mein Deustch ist Shrecklich!
buddhabder 8 months ago
@StirbOderFriss Er handelt von einem Mädchen, das er liebt, zu sprechen, aber sie ist nicht sehr schön, so genießt sie Auslösung Zwerge. In der nächsten Strophe besingt er ihr rauben aus dem blind. Entschudegung für mein schlechtes Deutsch ...
TheTenderhooligan 8 months ago
Worst of all, it's a band that can come back because all its members still live, but it seems it is not possible.
panicmex 10 months ago
It makes me so depressed knowing I will never see them live.
Isaidveto 10 months ago
@Isaidveto
Catch the ferry to England or Scotland this summer.
JohnPurchaseArt 10 months ago
@JohnPurchaseArt Well considering I live in Norway that would be kind of difficult :p
Isaidveto 10 months ago
@JohnPurchaseArt SCOTLAND?!?!?! i live in scotland! may i ask whereabouts is he playing?
wistful94lyricist 9 months ago
wow, what a find. i have this show on VINYL!
falgiano 11 months ago
I've watched this a million times, so I can say this with confidence: Mozzer, what's with all the mouth wiping in the beginning?
damienmetalwind 1 year ago
@damienmetalwind He had chapped lips for his..."Ma'am Honey"....
RyDawg084 1 year ago
@RyDawg084 I reckon he had just had a kiss under the iron bridge....
ericsrightboot 10 months ago
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ericsrightboot 10 months ago
The smiths have inspired me in so many other ways than music, I just love the atmosphere and the uniqueness of Morrisseys voice. I have always had a strange voice which never fit in with what people expected so to find a unique personality, performer and singer be so heartfelt gives me hope.
rich639 1 year ago
been listening to these guys for the last week.. just learned about them...I love their music.. its touches me so much
andersonjayson 1 year ago
@andersonjayson what's your favourite song so far then? :)
sackmajik 1 year ago
Been a fan since 82 and this is the first time I have listened to this ... fantastic.
wammdriver 1 year ago
I like how certain singers have that "just got out of bed" look - Kurt Cobain had that look as well. it's so far removed and refreshing from the overkill hyper fashion pop machine these days.
smaxit 1 year ago
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"oh when she calls me, i do not walk - i run"
<3 smiths!
theand123 1 year ago
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theand123 1 year ago
There is less art, more matter in what Morrissey says. That's why they jerked the volume up 50 % compared to other bands. It's like he's reading his diary out loud, put to the most beautiful music imaginable. Even if you can't relate to everything Moz has experienced, like all great art you still enjoy listening to it. Just the heartfeltness of his voice is enough. However, it doesn't hurt that most things he sings about are clear and easy to grasp.
ninmat 1 year ago
THE SMITHS are the oxygen at my lungs! the veins and arteries in my blood! the essence of my soul! the reason I keep on living! LONG LIVE THE SMITHS!!!!!!!!!! the best band ever walked on the face of planet earth. period.
aviadmei 1 year ago
They were The Smiths!!! . There will never be a band like this ever again :(
danpez890 1 year ago 2
If you think this is good then you should download the Smiths live in Madrid, vintage live show, video is so so but sound is 9/10. play it to yourself with headphones in the dark as I do and it is almost like being there, heck I'll even send you the link, meet me at t he cemetery gates...
thepiratesghost 1 year ago
I Love you tube! without it these vids would be gone forever.Its nice to see a whole new generation appreciating the smiths.
6mozzer3 1 year ago 3
Damn,i fu...ng love this song!!One of my favorites with no doubts!!!
grazianeddu 1 year ago
and I thought I'd heard every Smiths song....
frednuff 2 years ago 3
It hurts so much that The Smiths are gone and won't ever come back...but at the same time I'm glad we didn't have to watch them grow old and unoriginal. I'll always think of them as a very young band. Morrissey is great on his own too, but The Smiths to me are the most special band ever. There was something about what they did that just has not been matched by any other band or musician, before or since. I am comforted by their music, every time.
MarqueeMoon95 2 years ago 70
Spot on. I couldn't have put it better.
frednuff 2 years ago 2
Thank you! Just wish I could have seen them live, even once.
MarqueeMoon95 2 years ago 2
That's so true! It's like dying young, sad but beautiful.
flowerlikelife5 1 year ago 2
you eloquently put the longing into words. smiths forever in my heart and under my pillow...yours too it seems
vajrahorn 1 year ago
@MarqueeMoon95 your comment sums up all feelings about the smiths (: LONG LIVE MOZZA :D
wistful94lyricist 9 months ago
@wistful94lyricist Thank you so much! And yes viva Morrissey, I'm finally meant to be seeing him live this year. Can't wait.
MarqueeMoon95 9 months ago
beautiful
franklydarko 2 years ago 5
CMON FULHAM
chrisffc1 2 years ago
Thanks god for bands such as this. There are a few hidden gems here and there but todays music is just awful.
133Daddy 2 years ago 7
Ughhhh my god i know! yer soo right,,.
like... what is everyone thinking?
stingme88x 2 years ago
This band is a real and pure treasure among all the bullshit and crap....... both in music and in life!!!!! because their music is the real thing, even better than the real thing!!!!!
aviadmei 2 years ago 8
what to be done with her oh what to be done with her. Pure genius love it
smithsfan1990 2 years ago 2
never before, never again... but it's one of those songs that make you wish all other songs were this emotive, genuine, and endearing-thank god for 'repeat' .
smaxit 2 years ago 2
i couldn't agree with you more his music has inspired me in such a emotional way and i can relate to his music. In his songs you can hear a harmony tale its amazing.
smithsfan1990 2 years ago 4
I know how you feel. It's like Morrisey just ... "knows". I think everyone who loves the Smiths can relate to Morrisey's melancholy.
nitter123 1 year ago 9
absolutely he is just a pure talent long live morrissey
smithsfan1990 1 year ago
@nitter123 You're totally right... And those that can't relate to him like to tear him to pieces instead... Some people are just fucking crazy..
HangTheDJ16 1 year ago
Amazing song! It sounds even better live!
ina339 2 years ago 2
the SMiths Are Awesome this is my favourite song it tells a lot any true fan would get morrissey
smithsfan1990 2 years ago
Wow,...in all these years,....I have never, until now, heard this song. Thanks for the post.
doobiescoo1 2 years ago
JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS SONG I LOVE
niecyangel1 2 years ago 2
fuck u guys!!
morrissey is the sheet <33
aslong93 2 years ago
quit comparing the smiths to all these serious bands. Morrissey is the ultimate smart ass.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSONIC 2 years ago 2
love it, but i think i prefer "what do you see in him??" an earlier version of this one
both are great
losinghell 2 years ago 3
This is such a great song. The bit with the harmonica i love as well its just such an amzing song long live the smiths
Shadowboof18 2 years ago 2
Masterful, Bravo +
When will Morrissey song get to
be out dated?? Never +
Wayhighup 2 years ago 4
A masterpiece then, now, and forever. Especially when this song meant so much more to me. Which it still does, but only in a different way. The Smiths are dead... long live The Smiths.
ncweatherlive 2 years ago 9
In my top 3 has slightly changed. Replace PiL with New Order. PiL's later stuff is almost too embarassing for words.
Manchester doesn't half produce some fucking amazing bands, and its only an hour up the motorway from where I live! :D
madcapoperator 2 years ago
"I'm starved of mirth, let's go and trip a dwarf" is the best lyric in rock history...hands down.
blotchy67 2 years ago 12
@blotchy67 wow i just wrote the same same comment on a diff video of wonderful woman.. cheers*
stingme88x 2 months ago
What a way of putting it - Ian C. dies so God creates The Smiths to make up for it. Couldn't agree more!
thelivingjukebox 2 years ago 3
Not to mention The Jam splitting up and the smiths releasing their first single about 5 months later :)
madcapoperator 2 years ago
Joy Division, PiL's early stuff and The Smiths in that order for me :)
madcapoperator 2 years ago 4
Whats PIL?
sucramnormark 2 years ago
Public Image Limited
madcapoperator 2 years ago
for me it's Pink Floyd, Radiohead, The Smiths, Joy Division..
SimMaster 2 years ago 6
Good choices. I really like radiohead and love pink floyd's stuff when syd barrett was in the band. Not a huge fan of dark side of the moon though...
madcapoperator 2 years ago
Oh how dare I not like Dark side of the moon! ¬_¬
Overrated piece of wank it is...Im not doing myself any favours with these comments am I? :P
Not that I give a toss lol.
madcapoperator 2 years ago 2
Wow exactly like me then except for Radiohead. Spooky.. :)
LondonSkiiies 2 years ago
Anybody agree with me that this is probably The Smiths most underrated song?
madcapoperator 2 years ago 4
for sure, it's amazing
tristans 2 years ago
Radiohead, The Smiths and Pink Floyd are my top three bands.
godlessKnowledge 2 years ago 4
one of my favorite smiths songs.
mozkrew211 2 years ago 2
I have an erestion.
godlessKnowledge 2 years ago
are there any other bands simliar to the sound of The Smiths?
SimMaster 2 years ago
No, just Morrissey solo, which in most cases is just as good as the smiths
bobbydylanio 2 years ago 6
If you like The Smiths, you'll probably like For Against (at least, their album December, which is all I've heard of them). Their jangle-pop sensibilities will probably appeal.
Also, they don't really sound like The Smiths, but you might like The Chameleons. Maybe give Lloyd Cole & the Commotions a try (check out Forest Fire, Jennifer She Said and Lost Weekend for starters) too.
oldskoolheretic 2 years ago
There is noone like the Smiths!
Nikosart 2 years ago 3
no....:(
amnesiach 2 years ago
Suede, Gene, the Dentists and Smoking Popes were all imitators of the Smiths. Johnny Marr also once admitted that his inspiration for forming the Smiths were U2's "Boy" and the Cure's "Seventeen Seconds" (which, like the Smiths, have that thin, silvery kind of guitar sound).
voidingindigo 2 years ago
Morrissey.
claydawgg24 2 years ago
the church are some what similar
there from austrailia
LadyTaylar92 2 years ago
Joy Division, interpol, cass mccombs, joy division was the earlier great band but thier lead singer died so god made the smiths to make up for it
glasses92 2 years ago
the bravery nad the killers are also some that are relevant
glasses92 2 years ago
yeah Joy Division is one of my favorite bands right after The Smiths
SimMaster 2 years ago
The smiths are the BEST band ever!!!
Nikosart 2 years ago 35
morrissey´s voice turns me on... and his face as well...and his music too...oh!
insomniacsuicide 2 years ago 8
Oh Manchester, so much to answer for...
SilentLD 2 years ago 6
Aren't b-sides the best? I fucking love this tune. "Ice water for blood with neither heart or spine..and just to pass time, let us go and rob the blind"
owaindk 2 years ago 6
I agree, pure genius - their early stuff was the best of the lot!
SilentLD 2 years ago 6
this song is so crazy. its one in a million. the atmosphere it creates is very cool
B-sides are so strong..by the smiths.
and suede
NaMrJellyRek 2 years ago 2
did they ever record this in the studio? it's fucking amazing
NicktheBarber31 2 years ago 2
It was the B Side to This Charming Man.
They also remastered it on The Sound Of The Smiths. That version is really great, especially with Johnny Marr's harmonica playing!
rusholmeruffian91 2 years ago 3
But Rourke should get credit for writing the basslines! I always thought they were Marr's...
poiuiopoi 2 years ago 4
This song grabs me - well written - I sure miss the SMITHS -Johnny Marr licks
theothor 2 years ago 2
comforting to know there are other disfunctionas out there but you all must be very young
fdineen 2 years ago 2
the most desperate laughing I've heard. Ah lovely
psykoosi 2 years ago
Andy my love ur one hell of a bass player, & no1 fucking no1 can take that away from u. Rourke & Hook the best bass players of all times.
karziflora 2 years ago
And Simon Gallup
satelitejameson 2 years ago
i agree with charming martin, not only that he is indeed right.
hes an amazing unique bassist and though johnny marr is utterly incredable it wouldnt be the same without andys basslines. people shouldnt just ingore andy and mick joyce they are outstanding at what they do, just because there was only two spaces to print morrisseys and marrs names the media ignores them.
iabusepeopleforfun 2 years ago 2
This was the best line up ever,
listen to those guitars and drums!
please reform just for us, xx
hammersteve 2 years ago
and i´m starved with your love........
insomniacsuicide 2 years ago
The Smiths just have such replay value.. actually replay value is to weak of a term IMO... its that feeling of Rediscovering songs by them you have heard Countless times and falling in love with it all over again.. like a Wonderful Women that never gets old or boring... and i think ive met one...
Caligula138 3 years ago 4
I'm so happy this is on the new album The Sound of the Smiths! Wonderful song.
psykoosi 3 years ago 2
andy wrote ALL the bass lines, the whole "writing rights" thing is based on the fact that legally the smiths were defined as "morrissey/marr" in the contracts and all the songs were credited that way (plus marr and moz wrote songs together as a duo for almost a year prior to the band forming), but andy and mike wrote their parts. Morrissey and Marr both have credited andy in later interviews saying that his bass playing sealed their success.
andrewmailliard 3 years ago 2
I believe ur right. I also read somewhere that Andy said that he played with Johnny since they were kids so he knew where Johnny comes from on the guitar. If u listen to the songs Andy matches his bass tunes to Johnny's guitar, Moz's voice and Mikes drums, and i don't think that Johnny is responnsible for the bass lines. He is one hell of a Bass player, totally underated compare to JM.
kusraback 3 years ago 10
Andy is a really great musician, an so is mike on drums... If you see Moz in concert now, you can esily notice that when they play smiths songs of course no guitar player can match JM but also the drumming and the bass are far away from the smiths version... In roma they played How son is now and the drumming was really weak!
Andy wrote the bass line for Barbarism!.. or at least that's what J. Rogan says in his books
therealswinger 3 years ago 3
ur absolutely right, and that is why i can't listen to Moz performing the Smiths songs with his band. It is lacking the Smiths sound of JM guitar, Rourke bass and ,Mike's drums. For all Moz and Marr funs including me, they weren't the only geniuses.
kusraback 3 years ago 10
This is definitely Andys bassline. But yeah, im sure Marr wrote some of the more catchy basslines, this is just sort of a standard bassline, nothing fancy. I seriously, can listen to a smiths song hundreds of time and think i know the song in and out, but then find something more. Small things here and there. Like one of the background guitars in There is a light, Some girls etc. some of my favorite the smiths songs right now r "You just havent " "Girl Afraid" "Well i Wonder""Nowhere fast" etc.
snusansmammut 3 years ago
Andy wrote ALL the basslines. He was/is a much better, much more creative bass player than the media (and, alas, most fans) give him credit for.
thischarmingmartin 2 years ago 5
♥
stoyscov 3 years ago
One of the best songs, love Andy bass lines. Amazing....
kusraback 3 years ago 3
Completely agree. I bet a lot of andy's riffs were writen by marr, a lot of them just sound marr-esq.
Jeromeabequice 3 years ago
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kusraback 3 years ago
Nonsense! Andy Rourke wrote ALL the Smiths' basslines. 'Marr-esque'?! Andy had been playing with Johnny Marr since they were both 16 and so they obviously knew each others' styles inside out. Andy was and still is a fantastic bass player with brilliant diversity and astounding attention to melody. Make no mistake, he wrote every bassline.
thischarmingmartin 2 years ago
That exactly is why the smiths are so amazing, every piece of the puzzle fits perfectly. The great bass lines, perfectly written guitar parts and finally morriseys voice.
In most rock bands the bass is seen as a part of the rythmic section, which isn't case with the smiths.
933265 2 years ago 3
good times don´t turn back!!! miss them
BlindRio 3 years ago
I'm starved of mirth;
Let's go and trip a dwarf
bobobrigitte 3 years ago
I love this song its so unlike anything u have ever heard before
Amazingred12 3 years ago
this is awesome, but check out what do you see in him, it´s even better than this
losinghell 3 years ago
This song is originally from the Troy Tate sessions and is a rarity! But what an amazing song...
350zAtticus 3 years ago
What a beautiful song. Should have put it on an album. I think I have this on a bootleg but its at my parents house. Saw them in 1986 in New York and they were better than you could imagine. Greatest band until Libertines, Babyshambles, DPT etc.
tugsandtost 3 years ago
Simply Britain's finest band !!
rael1999 3 years ago 12
this is one of my favourite smith's songs, the the guitar and bass in chorus is just too badass.
SWAC424 3 years ago 4
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Harno3 3 years ago 4
wondredful woman?
fusionfreq 3 years ago
God, I'm so envious of you guys! Id give a finger to go back in time and see The Smiths live.
rastabill89 3 years ago 5
haha i would give my two legs to go back then
:(
losinghell 3 years ago
One of my favourite songs now.
Murjoe16 3 years ago 2
Ahhh, wow. I don't suppose you'd be able to upload the interview?? For an obsessive but blighted Australian lass?
peopletalking 3 years ago 2
how did this not make it on any smith's compilation?
waynecannington 3 years ago
You can find it on the 'Eager to be held' EP, which also contains around five different versions of 'This charming man' and 'Jeane'...
Rmmoore1313 3 years ago
Could these words have been written if not for a woman ?
flowerlike42 3 years ago
This song is about Linder Sterling, one of Morrissey's lifelong friends.
amyjohnson11 3 years ago
Now consulted the book.... 14th Gig!
paplaz1 3 years ago
Ignore that last post, I read the OP commnet, will have to dig out Songs That Saved Your Life!
Very cool post though... cheers!!
paplaz1 3 years ago
Please excuse the French but where the fuck is this from....??
Don't know the gig date but this is well early,
I had a bootleg record in the 80's which was from the Hacienda which was supposed to be their first gig, is this from that..??
paplaz1 3 years ago
It's from the 6th July 1983. This is their first gig at the Hacienda not their first gig, their first gig was in a gay or transexual bar =]
simunb123 3 years ago 2
think its was the ritz supporting blue rondo a la turk
dermot51 3 years ago
I think you're right about the Ritz. The first gig at the Hacienda was December 82 (this July 83 gig was the second one there). The 82 gig featured the version of Handsome Devil that's the B-side of Hand in Glove. They also played "What do you see in him?" at that gig which is the first version of Wonderful Woman. I have a mixing desk copy of the gig. They were very raw back then - but still excellent!
theoriginalmilo 3 years ago 3
That 'mixing desk copy' is called Handsome Devils.
It was their third performance ever. Indeed very good, but they were playing very low (and because of that Morrissey sounds a bit frightening), I think Marr didn't tuned his guitar up already at that gig.
Also I think it is in What Difference Does It Make, there is a second voice next to Moz', I think it's Marr (it sounds awful).
That LP/Bootleg is some great time-document.
Reint25 3 years ago
Born in 82. Darn it!
wakastepper 3 years ago
this song saved my youth! brilliant poetry
theothor 3 years ago
I really, really, really agree with you. I guess I'm just being childlish, but it feels really unfair to be a smithsfan born in 1992 when there are so many people born in the late sixties or something like that who hasn't even heard the smiths. I'd love to switch. : O
Good song btw, had never heard it before. Thanks for posting it!
theglamorousglue 3 years ago
Exactly exactly exactly. 1991 child, is I.
It's the greatest injustice known to mankind. It is astonishingly unfair! And born in Australia at that! It simply adds insult to injury.
Life is never kind...
peopletalking 3 years ago
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KarenBerninger 3 years ago
wait this is a later version of what do you see in him ? sounds alot like it
BillieXBudd 3 years ago
Yep.
DowJonesss 3 years ago
orgazmic!
Stillillgal 3 years ago
lol i have the demo for this
morrissey1959 3 years ago
So glad someone has this. Wonderful Woman was the first smiths track I ever had (taped from the radio 1 Kid Jensen session - aired just before this gig and the best version for my money).
By the time I got to see them for the first time (oct 83), they had dropped it from the set - and never played it again live (to my knowledge).
It was always a hope, but the 17 times I saw them the buggers never once played it! I was always gutted. But so good to see this gig and this song here. Priceless!
theoriginalmilo 3 years ago
17 times! Wow, LUCKY!
asdffd 3 years ago
i seen them 9 times first time dec 83 trinity college dublin last time fairways dundalk 86 at the gig in RAH also then again if i lived in England i think i would have seen em 109 times ur a cool dude man bye and its such a beautiful tune isnt it
dermot51 3 years ago 2
Dermot - Good man! We share a gig! I was at Dundalk too! The June Brides supported (I was a big fan of them too). So I always remember that gig as being double good - my two favourites together! Also came away with a bit of Morrisey's shirt. And yes - a beautiful song!
theoriginalmilo 3 years ago 2
Genau für solche Lieder liebe ich The Smiths!!!
melonbaby77 3 years ago
a great song,often over lookd,your in good company with the smiths,
mugglechops 3 years ago
I never heard this song before.
Thanks for adding it.
kh1727 3 years ago 4
This is absolutely brilliant. To be playing this great, folk-style, sorrowful sound in the Hacienda of all places--the stomping ground of New Order and the rave scene. New Order's "Blue Monday" was an enormous hit in 1982-1983, the dance anthem of Manchester arguably. It is so fantastic to see The Smiths opting to do something so entirely different, and so beautiful! I wish this song had had a wider release. Thanks for posting gem!!
dogmart 3 years ago 3
God Johnny was brilliant, wasn't he?
pavementfiend 3 years ago 4
Yes.
Johnny Marr and fellow Mancuian Vini Reilly are the greatest guitarists/musicians currently living.
truefaith00 3 years ago 2
"Sketch for summer" is the best instrumental ever written period, the struggle continues and always will mate
dermot51 3 years ago 2
That is one of the most beautiful songs of The Smiths, both melodically and lyrically...beautiful footage!