Well, this is definitely not Italianate singing.His voice would be much more suitable to Wagner and Richard Strauss.
As it is, for me it sounds too much sliding,the line is broken and "rewritten" sometimes, there are instances when he tries to overdo just to do differently.
You want the last sententences pianissimo? Try early Alagna.Although, to tell you the truth I prefer Caruso,Gedda and Pavarotti in this aria.
Necesito más sentimiento y un canto menos plano para conquistarme, no obstante, el piannisimo del final es soberbio y, dado que Domingo es considerado un referente en este papel y lo da gritando (compatriota mío, pero una gran mentira de tenor, amigos, puro marketing), le doy mi voto positivo, al menos respeta la partitura que tantos pisotean.
He's good looking but he doesn't move me. The voice is too tough and his phrasing is too square for French or Italian music. And could anyone understand his French?
This guy is aewsome singing, he studied and end of story, and i only accept bad critics if they have some technical resources to prove what they are saying...cos i'm a singer too, and i studied hard to that...Its not easy to sing like him!!!
alexoomez2, I fully agree with you everything has been so clear and precise, the false form of singing and Domingo is unbearable, and the Great Franco Corelli is as you put it. You do justice in his opinion. Thank you very much for that.
alexoomez2, estoy plenamente de acuerdo con usted en todo; ha sido tan claro y preciso; la forma falsa de cantar de Domingo ya es insoportable,y, sobre el Gran Franco Corelli es tal como usted lo expresa. Usted hace justicia en su opinión. Muchas gracias por eso.
to me he is a Dramatic tenor..not the lyric or bel canto we seem to be used to more so these days. and this is a different approach in so many areas of the voice. Excellent as far as I am concerned... a teacher /singer here.
Kaufmann imprsses me the most with French. A bit of a critique here- there's something too dark about his vowels. I'm not dissing him as a singer- he has a beautiful instrument, but I think what makes him special is that he is very expressive for a singer with his voice size. I just worry about his projection and ultimate career longevity singing with that much darkness. I've never heard anyone keep it up past late 40's. He must be very strong to be able to do it so consistently now.
tecnicamente continua a convincermi..mha...in questa interpretazione è molto delicato!però questa voce girata in questo modo,sulle mezze voci non mi convince..mha,forse è proprio la sua voce particolare!
WOW! The greatest ever pianissimo I've ever heard at Et j'étais une chose à toi (min. 3:45). Domingo sings this phrase at full voice; Carreras resorts to falsetto, but Kaufmann sings it in pure full voice in the most delicate pianissimo which reminds me of the great Franco Corelli who, inspite of the size of his voice could produce incredible and long diminuendos. It was about time someone like Kaufmann come alone and show that this technique doesn't belong only to great sopranos. Great document
@alexgomez2 If you can find it, Jon Vickers sings this with a very good pianissimo. Darker tenors tend to really keep the sound open because anything else will cause a crack. Open sound = dynamic control. Many tenors who have a good sound also tend to place too much resonance in the nose, this can limit dynamic control because of the reflexive tension in the jaw that tends to occur. James King was another fantastic tenor that had a rich grasp of dynamic control.
bueno, como baritono tambien ocupas muy buen registro,mucho criticos aqui te despellejan pero no hcen criticas constructivas me parece que quien critica despectivamente es un fustrado
@johnnybarytone a mi me da la impresion de,,,que es un baritono que le entra al terreno del tenor y no se oye mal. hay baritonos que tienen un registro muy amplio e incluso los hay quienes cantan mejores agudos que algunos tenores.
è un'interpretrazione senz'altro di valore,però mi lascia insoddisfatto a causa della mancanza di coinvolgimento dello spettatore...lo spettatore ha bisogno di emozioni...e qui mancano...a mio parere...saluti
If your singing voice doesn't match your speaking voice you're singing incorrectly. End of story. One's singing voice should sound not unlike their speaking voice only it is projected lyrically. Kaufman is is not a legit singer. It's a lot of manufacturing and pushing. When you sound like a deaf kermit the frog, there's most certainly a problem. I was expecting to see Miss Piggy as Carmen come out and bonk him on the head with flowers or something... "Coloring" is for special moments only.
@NathanaelSaintCyr I am not an opera expert, but Franco Corelli's voice didn't match his singing voice at all and he was one of the greatest tenors ever.
@mgdoom Again, popularity has nothing to do with proper singing. Legit singing is its own thing. While legit singing is a specific thing popularity is not. Just because someone is a popular politician doesn't mean they're the best example of what they do. I think Gigli, Bjorling and Pavarotti are the best technical examples of legit singing, also Bergonzi and Kraus. Good singing is seamless and should appear to be effortless. Maybe you like being yelled at for two hours but it's not my thing...
@NathanaelSaintCyr I think you are being a little radical....one thing is to push, make throaty sounds or have a bad breathing....that's awful....another thing is to have a different singing voice and speaking voice....there is nothing wrong with that and you don't damage your voice (Corelli had a long career of singing without voice problems)
@mgdoom Physiological fact is not "radical". You know how all Robins or Blue-Jays sound the same? Well, humans have this equivalency, it's referred to as "legit singing", where the voice remains unique but the production is homogenous throughout the human race. In other words, we're talking about optimal production. Yes, it gets much MUCH better than Kaufman or Corelli. And fyi, Corelli "covered" excessively, but still sounded like himself.
Timbro impressionante, bello scuro, ricorda Vickers ma senza alcune asperità nella voce del grande canadese, e poi una bella linea di canto non senza qualche svenimento di tipo corelliano molto affascinante, e poi la sua bellissima presenza, che non guasta teatralmente...
there is feeling, and taste, and that's very improtant, he also has presence, but his sound is artificial: he overdarkens it with rare position of tongue to gain dramatic color; but my impression is that he aint'a real dramatic tenor, he probably has more of a lyric natural color... but the point is that he's using artifical voice...you can hear it clealry, and it's not beautiful
@juancillo Kaufman's voice category is "lyric spinto" which is a lyric voice with the added dramatic capability of rising above the orchestra. this voice is especially desired to sing the Verdi operas. Kaufman is a great "spinto tenor'. ( Pronounced speen' to. Look it up.)
@myskylark thank yuo for the explanation, anyway, it doesn't concern that much with the category of his voice., what i hear , has nothing to do with that but with artificiallity. that is evident, any little trained ear can hear that something isn't right at all in his sound, thats my opinion, i have heard meny many different singers, most of them tenors, and never heard such sound
@bodiloto francese orrendo ? français excellent, dans cette vidéo seuls 2 mots ne sont pas parfaits (sans être vraiment mauvais cependant) : "nuit" où on n'entend pas assez le u, et "destin" qu'il prononce plus "déstin" que "dèstin" comme il devrait. Je suis fascinée par les personnes comme bodiloto qui prétendent donner des leçons de français alors que manifestement ils n'en connaissent pas grand chose (même s'il a indiqué France comme pays sur son profil)
@stepasb You are right that the Lithuanian Jonas is for Johann or John or Juan, but this is Jonas (in Czech we have Jan for Johann and Jonáš for Jonas :-) ) It comes from Hebrew, Jonah was the person who was swallowed by a whale in a Biblical story.
@stepasb My brothers name is Jónas ,I am from Iceland.tomorrow I will hear Mr. Kaufmann sing in the new Opera/Conserthall in Iceland.Listen to his great "Ingemisco"......Kári Friðriksson,tenor from Iceland.
He's a lyric baritone... And how tacky is it to sing the high B flat with ones falsetto rather than the proper pianissimo or mezzo forte in legit-voice? If this is what will pass for opera in the future we may as well start outfitting Opera houses with microphones and speakers... It's just too much to handle... Where is Pavarotti when we need him? Ugh! This guy couldn't project to the back of a bus...
@NathanaelSaintCyr In my opinion, he is a lyric tenor with nice colourful voice (Carreras voice type), but he is making additional color pushing his tongue back (we can clearly see it) and projecting his voice through the lower jaw. And he is doing piano though hiding his voice behid... this is what my teacher names as "piano quasi niente" ;oP Well, he wasn`t lucky with his teacher maybe.
@BassoNero Did your teacher also instruct you that if your singing voice and speaking voice don't match you're not singing "legit"? A real spinto or lyric tenor's singing voice sounds like his speaking voice only projected lyrically. You guys really need to learn more about this stuff... Don't buy into pretty CD boxes and overpriced concerts. This isn't legit singing. If your voice doesn't even sound human, there's a problem. If you can't understand what they're singing, there's a problem.
@NathanaelSaintCyr What you don't know is that singing in the falsetto or at least a supported falsetto (called falsettone) above the f-sharp was normal for tenors until around the turn of the twentieth century. The first high C sung in modal voice was sung either in 1831 in Lucca or 1837 at the Grand Opera de Paris in a performance of Rossini's William Tell by Gilbert-Louis Duprez. So the use of a supported falsetto to sing the high b-flat is entirely within the style of the time...
@philipvanlidth That's very interesting knowledge that most of us already have but completely irrelevant when discussing legit technique. His singing voice sounds nothing like his speaking voice and therefore is manufactured. You can't argue with that, it's a physiological fact. If you don't sound like yourself, you're producing a "false" sound and "pushing" it forward. A REAL spinto tenor sings with his legit voice so his singing voices sounds like his speaking voice only projected lyrically.
@NathanaelSaintCyr In discussing legit technique, the information I have quoted is not only not irrelevant but very much part of the discussion. Legit technique has changed over the years and will continue to develop as we find out more about the function of the vocal apparatus. Merely dismissing another's point as irrelevant does not in any way support your argument. As for your physiological fact, I haven't every heard Kaufman speak, but people can also falsely color their speaking voices.
@philipvanlidth "Legit technique has changed over the years and will continue to develop as we find out more about the function of the vocal apparatus." I actually copied this and sent it to my buddy at OperaNews. Hilarious. Do you think one day humans will also learn the function of their legs to walk and swim better as well? There is an optimal way to walk, swim and sing. Legit singing is singing without affectation, with ease, with one's own voice, etc. Listen to Pavarotti speak and sing.
@NathanaelSaintCyr You seem to think that what has been accepted as legit technique has been the same throughout the ages. Nothing could be further from the truth, and that is what I mean by what I wrote that you seem to find so hilarious. Your arrogance is off-putting and rather supercilious, my friend. And for your information, I have worked with Pavarotti early in my career, so I am very aware of how he spoke and sang...
@NathanaelSaintCyr You're right. It is perhaps pointless. But don't just dismiss me as a "You Tube expert" in order to justify yourself. It seems to me that your mind is rather closed to anything but your own opinion, and so I have to take it that you are basically tarring me with your own brush...
@philipvanlidth Think what you must my friend, in the end fortunately the lay person is not the individual who makes the important decisions. We should all be thankful for this, I know I certainly am.
@NathanaelSaintCyr Ah, did you think I am just a lay person? I'm sorry to disappoint you, my friend, but I am a professional singer and have been for over thirty years. At the moment I am finishing my dissertation for a Doctor of Musical Arts degree, but I have sung both here in the U.S. and in Europe (Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Belgium, Netherlands) with such companies as Deutsche Oper Belin, Deutsche Oper am Rhein (Dusseldorf/Duisburg), Oldenburg State Theater and Nuremburg...
@NathanaelSaintCyr The singer who turned the use of modal voice all the way up to the top of the vocal range into the gold standard of singing for tenors was Enrico Caruso with all of his recordings. I might add that many people considered his vocalism rather vulgar when he was starting out, preferring the more falsettone production of Jean De Reszke...
@NathanaelSaintCyr He ia not a lyrice baritone - he's a lyric tenor with the added dramatic capability to rise above tghe orchestra. The official designation for his voice is "lyric spinto." Look it up. his is the voice category that Verdi preferred for the tenor roles in his operas. (pronounced "speen' to.)
@myskylark First of all the designation you're referencing is correctly called "Spinto Tenor", no one has used the term "lirico-spinto" in English publications for more than a century. Secondly, it's pronounced "spin-toe", as there is no "ey" diphthong in the Italian language and the "o" is open. Thirdly, physiologically this man is a baritone, technique alone does not a tenor make. If one does not sound like oneself when singing, one is manufacturing a sound untrue to their instrument. The End
Bella voz, pero no sabe proyectarla adecuadamente. Quizá un par de lecciones con Alfredo Kraus le hubieran venido bien, ahora quiza sea demasiado tarde
I agree with 10rfan. It is back in the throat a bit. Imagine how amazing it could be if he opened up his vowels a bit more....a bit more Caruso 'ah' than the 'oh' he's using. But i do love the rich quality in his voice. It's different, and that's refreshing.
Well, I think he has a nice voice, but it is a bit over rated in my opinion. The sound can be beautiful, but is often times back in the throat. If you want to hear a wonderful tenor sing this, listen to Emmanuel di Villarosa. I heard him live in Warsaw and in Germany. His voice is free, magnificent and his top just dose not quit.
Lady delMonaco get of your high horse you live in the land of "Ignorance is Bliss" And please work on you sharp tongue! We are tired of yout comments.. and will nor read them anymore.
Liebe(r) voce29, nicht beleidigt sein, dass ich die Interpretation von Kaufmann nicht mag. Er hat Stimme aber knödelt einfach viel zu sehr, schlechte Technik, meine Meinung. Wenn Sie ihn toll finden, ist doch ok. Ich habe mit frufruJ eine Diskussion geführt und fertig, niemand ist böse mit dem anderen.
@medusaview Mir gefällt es auch nicht... Es klingt einfach unnatürlich, übertrieben und unausgewogen. Manchmal knödelt er total, dann wieder nicht... was denn nun?
Meiner Meinung nach ein sehr überschätzer Sänger... Wohl wirklich gut, aber ihn als einen der besten zu bezeichnen den wir heute haben ist Bullshit...
Sie müssen auch meine Kommentare nicht lesen, zwingt Sie keiner. Obwohl ich mich schon frage, wen Sie mit WIR meinen. Haben Sie mehrere Persönlichkeiten? Während ich an meiner scharfen Zunge arbeite, könnten Sie ja vielleicht ein bisschen daran arbeiten ihr Gehör zu schulen :).
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Sehr gut gesungen!! Besonders bemerkenswert ist das hohe b im Piano mit Dynamikflexibilität. Das können nur wenige Tenöre. Die meisten singen den Ton zu starr Forte, obwohl in den Noten ppp notiert ist. Das zeigt die besondere Klasse von Jonas Kaufmann.
Dieses Piano erreicht Kaufmann durch die permanente An- und Entspannung der Dynamikflexibilitätsmuskulatur im Nasenrachenraum, wodurch es auch zu einer phantastischen Nasenrachenraumresonanzkopplungsverpuffung kommt, die den Tönen ihre Flexibilität nimmt und ihnen das Forte erspart.
poor frufruJ, I feel sympathy for you. I can help you. Don't upload any more videos and I will be quiet.
No, I was just kidding :-). I accept and respect your love for Kaufmann. We can come to an agreement. If you respect my point of view, i will never ever give any comment on YOUR videos, neither positive nor negative. So you don't have to fight me, you can relax and enjoy music. That's the deal.
The point is, I don't *love* Kaufmann, but I respect him. The fact that somebody is not your cup of tea doesn't mean that they are bad! Sure, I will enjoy music, but I'm worried that you won't! :-)
You can say what ever you want, I am not offended. You dislike del Monaco. Ok, who cares. I just gave a comment on this video on Kaufmann. I didn't want to argue with you. I think you didn't read my full comment on Kaufmann carefully, so you would have noticed positive and negative response. I can't take your statement seriously. Are you "the revenger of the disenherited"? You aren't a professor, famous singer or critic and you give your comment anyway. So what's your point.
The point is, art is not a competition. The point is, it's relative. The point is, you don't see me commenting on Del Monaco's videos. I didn't mean to offend you, I meant to show you that you don't have to patronize others - what you do, it was you who started it, I merely reacted, because I feel responsible for my vids. You assume that I don't know anything about singing because I like whom I like.
Oh, yeah, "nice high notes, not as bad as the other Kaufmann videos" is as positive as my ....
I suppose you got it all wrong. I don't want to offend you either.
I don't patronize others. I just gave a comment on this video, and because it is not only positive you are displeased. If you don't want criticism on your video you can switch off the function. I didn't say that you don't know anything about singing. I said you have a lack of knowledge, that's a difference. You can comment on del Monaco's videos as much as you want. This has nothing to do with this video and my comment
What's the difference between not knowing and lacking knowledge?
No, it's not about this video, it's about the principle. You just don't write that they sound like a frog, whoever they are, because it's impolite ;-) If you're not patronizing, you sound so, you should do something about it.
I don't switch the comments off because I love discussion :-) Of course I can comment on your videos, the point is that I don't, because there would be no point to it.
Ah ok, now I get you. You think he and the others you uploaded are good, because so many people think the are great. That is totally fine with me. I am calm, you should learn to accept criticism. You shouldn't be so offended. I have just one question, what idols do you mean? Singers who could sing? Do you think that is all over? I believe that one fine day.... Please don't take my hope for better days ;)!!!
No, my opinion is that they are great, and so happen to think many other people, so I guess my taste is not entirely wrong.
There are no "better days". Singers have always been great, only now they are compared to the singers of the past, by people like you.
Tell me, do you have any more authority than me? Are you a famous singer, professor, or at least critic? You think these singers are bad, I think they are great. Thanks for sharing your opinion.
I don't have to be a famous singer, professor or critic to give a comment. You don't have to defend yourself, you shouldn't emphasize my opinion. That's not necessary. You are the one who claims to have the right view. You can believe what ever you want. I am not interested in you and your lack of knowledge.
There are singers with quality or less quality in the past and now. But I see you can't bring forward arguments, you just repeat yourself.
On one hand, you say that you don't have to be a professor, but at the same time you claim that I don't have any knowledge about singing and therefore my opinion is inferior. Make up your mind.
I didn't bring forward arguments? And have you, besides "singing like a frog"? There can't be any arguments besides "i like it" and "I dislike it". You've told us that you dislike Kaufmann, fine. I could tell you how I dislike Del Monaco, and that would be it.
yes you are absolutely right, thats why he sings in all major opera houses, because he displaces the ones out who are just worse than him. Sorry, i forgot you are the only expert on singing and on youtube. That is why you upload all this "great" singers. You know the the rules of music business. What a fool you are!
And how do you explain the positive reviews? I don't seem to be the only person on Earth who thinks these singers are great, so calm down and think whether it's me or you who's stuck with their idols.
that is not as bad as the other Kaufmann Videos ;), but i do not understand why he sometimes gets the high notes quite well --substandard singing of course- and continues singing like a frog. I don't get it.
Is it just me or has Kaufmann been possessed by Roger Ramjet.....the beginning seems really nasally to me. Don't get me wrong, he has a great career. Just a thought that's all.
He's too throaty for me.
jfichter69 1 week ago
that was....delicate, heart wrenching beauty that one hopes for .....bravo.
nomadlebowski 3 weeks ago
the voice and the man are To DIE FOR. That last poignant long note is everything in this piece, and he did it with all the emotionally delic
nomadlebowski 3 weeks ago
Well, this is definitely not Italianate singing.His voice would be much more suitable to Wagner and Richard Strauss.
As it is, for me it sounds too much sliding,the line is broken and "rewritten" sometimes, there are instances when he tries to overdo just to do differently.
You want the last sententences pianissimo? Try early Alagna.Although, to tell you the truth I prefer Caruso,Gedda and Pavarotti in this aria.
chaiter1 1 month ago
remarkable; i don't know a word of what he said but it touched me deeply.
wilton318 1 month ago
Necesito más sentimiento y un canto menos plano para conquistarme, no obstante, el piannisimo del final es soberbio y, dado que Domingo es considerado un referente en este papel y lo da gritando (compatriota mío, pero una gran mentira de tenor, amigos, puro marketing), le doy mi voto positivo, al menos respeta la partitura que tantos pisotean.
Nireo79 1 month ago
This is very good even though for me it is not quite up to the version by Carreras.
bb1111116 1 month ago
A chocolate box tenor if ever I heard one, and beautiful with it!
blackdyke1 2 months ago 2
He's good looking but he doesn't move me. The voice is too tough and his phrasing is too square for French or Italian music. And could anyone understand his French?
operafantic 2 months ago
schlimm gesungen..
Funkytown421 4 months ago
beautiful and unique. thanks so much for posting.
JSBach5000 4 months ago
just beautiful ..
nyjordy 4 months ago
This guy is aewsome singing, he studied and end of story, and i only accept bad critics if they have some technical resources to prove what they are saying...cos i'm a singer too, and i studied hard to that...Its not easy to sing like him!!!
MrRaynsford 5 months ago in playlist Liked 3
alexoomez2, I fully agree with you everything has been so clear and precise, the false form of singing and Domingo is unbearable, and the Great Franco Corelli is as you put it. You do justice in his opinion. Thank you very much for that.
pieritlyon 5 months ago
alexoomez2, estoy plenamente de acuerdo con usted en todo; ha sido tan claro y preciso; la forma falsa de cantar de Domingo ya es insoportable,y, sobre el Gran Franco Corelli es tal como usted lo expresa. Usted hace justicia en su opinión. Muchas gracias por eso.
pieritlyon 5 months ago
Не важно, тенор он или баритон с великолепными верхом, важно, что он чувствует всё, что поёт. Его интересно слушать. Браво!!
578Tato 5 months ago
Dreadful French accent
vburm 5 months ago
I have been clicking through so many interpretations of this song finding one for my opera playlist... and I think I have now found the right one!
musicallyspeakings88 5 months ago 2
Geras tenoras.Labai patinka.NUOSTABIAI GRAZUS1
murisola 6 months ago
Krásný tenor! Zážitek z jeho zpěvu mohu klidně přirovnat k interpretaco J. Carrerase ! Díky - budu sledovat jeho další videa.
zdevol7 6 months ago
to me he is a Dramatic tenor..not the lyric or bel canto we seem to be used to more so these days. and this is a different approach in so many areas of the voice. Excellent as far as I am concerned... a teacher /singer here.
wljmrbill 6 months ago
MERDA
MrPinko1975 7 months ago 2
Kaufmann imprsses me the most with French. A bit of a critique here- there's something too dark about his vowels. I'm not dissing him as a singer- he has a beautiful instrument, but I think what makes him special is that he is very expressive for a singer with his voice size. I just worry about his projection and ultimate career longevity singing with that much darkness. I've never heard anyone keep it up past late 40's. He must be very strong to be able to do it so consistently now.
wotanman 8 months ago 2
great. What else ?
Chrisdenancy 8 months ago
MERCI!
tychaton08 9 months ago
oops a little spit got away there...
the more spit the better!! lol (but not drueling down your lip like that..)
kungura 1 year ago
tecnicamente continua a convincermi..mha...in questa interpretazione è molto delicato!però questa voce girata in questo modo,sulle mezze voci non mi convince..mha,forse è proprio la sua voce particolare!
liEder89 1 year ago
WOW! The greatest ever pianissimo I've ever heard at Et j'étais une chose à toi (min. 3:45). Domingo sings this phrase at full voice; Carreras resorts to falsetto, but Kaufmann sings it in pure full voice in the most delicate pianissimo which reminds me of the great Franco Corelli who, inspite of the size of his voice could produce incredible and long diminuendos. It was about time someone like Kaufmann come alone and show that this technique doesn't belong only to great sopranos. Great document
alexgomez2 1 year ago 12
@alexgomez2 If you can find it, Jon Vickers sings this with a very good pianissimo. Darker tenors tend to really keep the sound open because anything else will cause a crack. Open sound = dynamic control. Many tenors who have a good sound also tend to place too much resonance in the nose, this can limit dynamic control because of the reflexive tension in the jaw that tends to occur. James King was another fantastic tenor that had a rich grasp of dynamic control.
tommyopera 10 months ago
I'm melting in my seat I love him <3
classicalgal14 1 year ago
bueno, como baritono tambien ocupas muy buen registro,mucho criticos aqui te despellejan pero no hcen criticas constructivas me parece que quien critica despectivamente es un fustrado
johnnybarytone 1 year ago
@johnnybarytone a mi me da la impresion de,,,que es un baritono que le entra al terreno del tenor y no se oye mal. hay baritonos que tienen un registro muy amplio e incluso los hay quienes cantan mejores agudos que algunos tenores.
mediterraneo1000 9 months ago
è un'interpretrazione senz'altro di valore,però mi lascia insoddisfatto a causa della mancanza di coinvolgimento dello spettatore...lo spettatore ha bisogno di emozioni...e qui mancano...a mio parere...saluti
federic017 1 year ago
If your singing voice doesn't match your speaking voice you're singing incorrectly. End of story. One's singing voice should sound not unlike their speaking voice only it is projected lyrically. Kaufman is is not a legit singer. It's a lot of manufacturing and pushing. When you sound like a deaf kermit the frog, there's most certainly a problem. I was expecting to see Miss Piggy as Carmen come out and bonk him on the head with flowers or something... "Coloring" is for special moments only.
NathanaelSaintCyr 1 year ago
@NathanaelSaintCyr I am not an opera expert, but Franco Corelli's voice didn't match his singing voice at all and he was one of the greatest tenors ever.
mgdoom 1 year ago
@mgdoom Again, popularity has nothing to do with proper singing. Legit singing is its own thing. While legit singing is a specific thing popularity is not. Just because someone is a popular politician doesn't mean they're the best example of what they do. I think Gigli, Bjorling and Pavarotti are the best technical examples of legit singing, also Bergonzi and Kraus. Good singing is seamless and should appear to be effortless. Maybe you like being yelled at for two hours but it's not my thing...
NathanaelSaintCyr 1 year ago
@NathanaelSaintCyr I think you are being a little radical....one thing is to push, make throaty sounds or have a bad breathing....that's awful....another thing is to have a different singing voice and speaking voice....there is nothing wrong with that and you don't damage your voice (Corelli had a long career of singing without voice problems)
mgdoom 1 year ago
@mgdoom Physiological fact is not "radical". You know how all Robins or Blue-Jays sound the same? Well, humans have this equivalency, it's referred to as "legit singing", where the voice remains unique but the production is homogenous throughout the human race. In other words, we're talking about optimal production. Yes, it gets much MUCH better than Kaufman or Corelli. And fyi, Corelli "covered" excessively, but still sounded like himself.
NathanaelSaintCyr 1 year ago
Timbro impressionante, bello scuro, ricorda Vickers ma senza alcune asperità nella voce del grande canadese, e poi una bella linea di canto non senza qualche svenimento di tipo corelliano molto affascinante, e poi la sua bellissima presenza, che non guasta teatralmente...
kulsho 1 year ago
One of the most beautiful of all tenor arias to be found in any opera. Bravo!
htshoward 1 year ago
His Tongue Looks funny Hahaha
Marklentjr 1 year ago
there is feeling, and taste, and that's very improtant, he also has presence, but his sound is artificial: he overdarkens it with rare position of tongue to gain dramatic color; but my impression is that he aint'a real dramatic tenor, he probably has more of a lyric natural color... but the point is that he's using artifical voice...you can hear it clealry, and it's not beautiful
juancillo 1 year ago
@juancillo Kaufman's voice category is "lyric spinto" which is a lyric voice with the added dramatic capability of rising above the orchestra. this voice is especially desired to sing the Verdi operas. Kaufman is a great "spinto tenor'. ( Pronounced speen' to. Look it up.)
myskylark 1 year ago
@myskylark thank yuo for the explanation, anyway, it doesn't concern that much with the category of his voice., what i hear , has nothing to do with that but with artificiallity. that is evident, any little trained ear can hear that something isn't right at all in his sound, thats my opinion, i have heard meny many different singers, most of them tenors, and never heard such sound
juancillo 1 year ago
My teacher told me falsetto is commonly used in french opera because it is meant to be part of the style. So, I don´t find it to be a problem.
Mr00Snake 1 year ago
Too much falsetto
dungeounmaster 1 year ago
Kaufmann is the most exciting tenor singing today.
Pywacket2 1 year ago
Mr. Jonas Spitman, because he loves to spit, spit and spit a lot.
a00915191 1 year ago
Ahh.. Beautiful voice. Love his version. Thanks for posting.
chorus8 1 year ago
francese orrendo,interpretazione orrenda.
bodiloto 1 year ago
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athemag 1 year ago
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@bodiloto francese orrendo ? français excellent, dans cette vidéo seuls 2 mots ne sont pas parfaits (sans être vraiment mauvais cependant) : "nuit" où on n'entend pas assez le u, et "destin" qu'il prononce plus "déstin" que "dèstin" comme il devrait. Je suis fascinée par les personnes comme bodiloto qui prétendent donner des leçons de français alors que manifestement ils n'en connaissent pas grand chose (même s'il a indiqué France comme pays sur son profil)
athemag 1 year ago
LOVE IT!!!! By the way... people, stop fighting. Nobody can convince the other about a matter of taste.
callastoujours 1 year ago
Superb
paulostroff99 1 year ago
Spettacolare.
macubu 1 year ago
Im seeing him this Wednesday at the Met singing Don Jose!! Also just saw him in Tosca at the Met! The greatest tenor now!
thewarholizer 1 year ago
Jonas - Lithuanian name .... To German - Johann (like Bach). Sir Jonas, maybe you Lithuanian?
stepasb 1 year ago
@stepasb You are right that the Lithuanian Jonas is for Johann or John or Juan, but this is Jonas (in Czech we have Jan for Johann and Jonáš for Jonas :-) ) It comes from Hebrew, Jonah was the person who was swallowed by a whale in a Biblical story.
I love Wikipedia :-)
frufruJ 1 year ago 6
@stepasb My brothers name is Jónas ,I am from Iceland.tomorrow I will hear Mr. Kaufmann sing in the new Opera/Conserthall in Iceland.Listen to his great "Ingemisco"......Kári Friðriksson,tenor from Iceland.
karifrid 9 months ago
He's a lyric baritone... And how tacky is it to sing the high B flat with ones falsetto rather than the proper pianissimo or mezzo forte in legit-voice? If this is what will pass for opera in the future we may as well start outfitting Opera houses with microphones and speakers... It's just too much to handle... Where is Pavarotti when we need him? Ugh! This guy couldn't project to the back of a bus...
NathanaelSaintCyr 1 year ago
@NathanaelSaintCyr In my opinion, he is a lyric tenor with nice colourful voice (Carreras voice type), but he is making additional color pushing his tongue back (we can clearly see it) and projecting his voice through the lower jaw. And he is doing piano though hiding his voice behid... this is what my teacher names as "piano quasi niente" ;oP Well, he wasn`t lucky with his teacher maybe.
BassoNero 1 year ago
@BassoNero Did your teacher also instruct you that if your singing voice and speaking voice don't match you're not singing "legit"? A real spinto or lyric tenor's singing voice sounds like his speaking voice only projected lyrically. You guys really need to learn more about this stuff... Don't buy into pretty CD boxes and overpriced concerts. This isn't legit singing. If your voice doesn't even sound human, there's a problem. If you can't understand what they're singing, there's a problem.
NathanaelSaintCyr 1 year ago
@NathanaelSaintCyr What you don't know is that singing in the falsetto or at least a supported falsetto (called falsettone) above the f-sharp was normal for tenors until around the turn of the twentieth century. The first high C sung in modal voice was sung either in 1831 in Lucca or 1837 at the Grand Opera de Paris in a performance of Rossini's William Tell by Gilbert-Louis Duprez. So the use of a supported falsetto to sing the high b-flat is entirely within the style of the time...
philipvanlidth 1 year ago
@philipvanlidth That's very interesting knowledge that most of us already have but completely irrelevant when discussing legit technique. His singing voice sounds nothing like his speaking voice and therefore is manufactured. You can't argue with that, it's a physiological fact. If you don't sound like yourself, you're producing a "false" sound and "pushing" it forward. A REAL spinto tenor sings with his legit voice so his singing voices sounds like his speaking voice only projected lyrically.
NathanaelSaintCyr 1 year ago
@NathanaelSaintCyr In discussing legit technique, the information I have quoted is not only not irrelevant but very much part of the discussion. Legit technique has changed over the years and will continue to develop as we find out more about the function of the vocal apparatus. Merely dismissing another's point as irrelevant does not in any way support your argument. As for your physiological fact, I haven't every heard Kaufman speak, but people can also falsely color their speaking voices.
philipvanlidth 1 year ago
@philipvanlidth "Legit technique has changed over the years and will continue to develop as we find out more about the function of the vocal apparatus." I actually copied this and sent it to my buddy at OperaNews. Hilarious. Do you think one day humans will also learn the function of their legs to walk and swim better as well? There is an optimal way to walk, swim and sing. Legit singing is singing without affectation, with ease, with one's own voice, etc. Listen to Pavarotti speak and sing.
NathanaelSaintCyr 1 year ago
@NathanaelSaintCyr You seem to think that what has been accepted as legit technique has been the same throughout the ages. Nothing could be further from the truth, and that is what I mean by what I wrote that you seem to find so hilarious. Your arrogance is off-putting and rather supercilious, my friend. And for your information, I have worked with Pavarotti early in my career, so I am very aware of how he spoke and sang...
philipvanlidth 1 year ago
@philipvanlidth This is pointless, you're right. You youtube "experts" always are, aren't you? Good luck monsieur.
NathanaelSaintCyr 1 year ago
@NathanaelSaintCyr You're right. It is perhaps pointless. But don't just dismiss me as a "You Tube expert" in order to justify yourself. It seems to me that your mind is rather closed to anything but your own opinion, and so I have to take it that you are basically tarring me with your own brush...
philipvanlidth 1 year ago
@philipvanlidth Think what you must my friend, in the end fortunately the lay person is not the individual who makes the important decisions. We should all be thankful for this, I know I certainly am.
NathanaelSaintCyr 1 year ago
@NathanaelSaintCyr Ah, did you think I am just a lay person? I'm sorry to disappoint you, my friend, but I am a professional singer and have been for over thirty years. At the moment I am finishing my dissertation for a Doctor of Musical Arts degree, but I have sung both here in the U.S. and in Europe (Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Belgium, Netherlands) with such companies as Deutsche Oper Belin, Deutsche Oper am Rhein (Dusseldorf/Duisburg), Oldenburg State Theater and Nuremburg...
philipvanlidth 1 year ago 3
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@philipvanlidth Oh course you are and of course you have...
NathanaelSaintCyr 1 year ago
@NathanaelSaintCyr The singer who turned the use of modal voice all the way up to the top of the vocal range into the gold standard of singing for tenors was Enrico Caruso with all of his recordings. I might add that many people considered his vocalism rather vulgar when he was starting out, preferring the more falsettone production of Jean De Reszke...
philipvanlidth 1 year ago
@NathanaelSaintCyr He ia not a lyrice baritone - he's a lyric tenor with the added dramatic capability to rise above tghe orchestra. The official designation for his voice is "lyric spinto." Look it up. his is the voice category that Verdi preferred for the tenor roles in his operas. (pronounced "speen' to.)
myskylark 1 year ago
@myskylark First of all the designation you're referencing is correctly called "Spinto Tenor", no one has used the term "lirico-spinto" in English publications for more than a century. Secondly, it's pronounced "spin-toe", as there is no "ey" diphthong in the Italian language and the "o" is open. Thirdly, physiologically this man is a baritone, technique alone does not a tenor make. If one does not sound like oneself when singing, one is manufacturing a sound untrue to their instrument. The End
NathanaelSaintCyr 1 year ago
Bella voz, pero no sabe proyectarla adecuadamente. Quizá un par de lecciones con Alfredo Kraus le hubieran venido bien, ahora quiza sea demasiado tarde
mark6230 1 year ago
Ça, c'est Don José. Beauté et douceur de la voix.
joanabanyeres 2 years ago
I agree with 10rfan. It is back in the throat a bit. Imagine how amazing it could be if he opened up his vowels a bit more....a bit more Caruso 'ah' than the 'oh' he's using. But i do love the rich quality in his voice. It's different, and that's refreshing.
smexinlondonia 2 years ago 3
Well, I think he has a nice voice, but it is a bit over rated in my opinion. The sound can be beautiful, but is often times back in the throat. If you want to hear a wonderful tenor sing this, listen to Emmanuel di Villarosa. I heard him live in Warsaw and in Germany. His voice is free, magnificent and his top just dose not quit.
10rfan 2 years ago 6
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Silence!!
voce29 2 years ago
@voce29
:-))))
MariadelMonaco 2 years ago 8
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Lady delMonaco get of your high horse you live in the land of "Ignorance is Bliss" And please work on you sharp tongue! We are tired of yout comments.. and will nor read them anymore.
voce29 2 years ago
@voce29
Liebe(r) voce29, nicht beleidigt sein, dass ich die Interpretation von Kaufmann nicht mag. Er hat Stimme aber knödelt einfach viel zu sehr, schlechte Technik, meine Meinung. Wenn Sie ihn toll finden, ist doch ok. Ich habe mit frufruJ eine Diskussion geführt und fertig, niemand ist böse mit dem anderen.
MariadelMonaco 2 years ago 13
Kuenstliches verdunkeltes und gedruecktes Knoedel-Gedudel!
medusaview 1 year ago 2
@medusaview Mir gefällt es auch nicht... Es klingt einfach unnatürlich, übertrieben und unausgewogen. Manchmal knödelt er total, dann wieder nicht... was denn nun?
Meiner Meinung nach ein sehr überschätzer Sänger... Wohl wirklich gut, aber ihn als einen der besten zu bezeichnen den wir heute haben ist Bullshit...
Stingerfyle 1 year ago
@voce29
Sie müssen auch meine Kommentare nicht lesen, zwingt Sie keiner. Obwohl ich mich schon frage, wen Sie mit WIR meinen. Haben Sie mehrere Persönlichkeiten? Während ich an meiner scharfen Zunge arbeite, könnten Sie ja vielleicht ein bisschen daran arbeiten ihr Gehör zu schulen :).
MariadelMonaco 2 years ago 13
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Sehr gut gesungen!! Besonders bemerkenswert ist das hohe b im Piano mit Dynamikflexibilität. Das können nur wenige Tenöre. Die meisten singen den Ton zu starr Forte, obwohl in den Noten ppp notiert ist. Das zeigt die besondere Klasse von Jonas Kaufmann.
vocede 2 years ago
Dieses Piano erreicht Kaufmann durch die permanente An- und Entspannung der Dynamikflexibilitätsmuskulatur im Nasenrachenraum, wodurch es auch zu einer phantastischen Nasenrachenraumresonanzkopplungsverpuffung kommt, die den Tönen ihre Flexibilität nimmt und ihnen das Forte erspart.
Ricocarrino1 2 years ago 13
poor frufruJ, I feel sympathy for you. I can help you. Don't upload any more videos and I will be quiet.
No, I was just kidding :-). I accept and respect your love for Kaufmann. We can come to an agreement. If you respect my point of view, i will never ever give any comment on YOUR videos, neither positive nor negative. So you don't have to fight me, you can relax and enjoy music. That's the deal.
MariadelMonaco 2 years ago 10
The point is, I don't *love* Kaufmann, but I respect him. The fact that somebody is not your cup of tea doesn't mean that they are bad! Sure, I will enjoy music, but I'm worried that you won't! :-)
Anyway, thaks for your offer. Truce! :-)
frufruJ 2 years ago 4
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i think it's high time for you two to shut up and enjoy the music.
belcunto 2 years ago
You can say what ever you want, I am not offended. You dislike del Monaco. Ok, who cares. I just gave a comment on this video on Kaufmann. I didn't want to argue with you. I think you didn't read my full comment on Kaufmann carefully, so you would have noticed positive and negative response. I can't take your statement seriously. Are you "the revenger of the disenherited"? You aren't a professor, famous singer or critic and you give your comment anyway. So what's your point.
MariadelMonaco 2 years ago 13
The point is, art is not a competition. The point is, it's relative. The point is, you don't see me commenting on Del Monaco's videos. I didn't mean to offend you, I meant to show you that you don't have to patronize others - what you do, it was you who started it, I merely reacted, because I feel responsible for my vids. You assume that I don't know anything about singing because I like whom I like.
Oh, yeah, "nice high notes, not as bad as the other Kaufmann videos" is as positive as my ....
frufruJ 2 years ago
@frufruJ
I suppose you got it all wrong. I don't want to offend you either.
I don't patronize others. I just gave a comment on this video, and because it is not only positive you are displeased. If you don't want criticism on your video you can switch off the function. I didn't say that you don't know anything about singing. I said you have a lack of knowledge, that's a difference. You can comment on del Monaco's videos as much as you want. This has nothing to do with this video and my comment
MariadelMonaco 2 years ago 12
What's the difference between not knowing and lacking knowledge?
No, it's not about this video, it's about the principle. You just don't write that they sound like a frog, whoever they are, because it's impolite ;-) If you're not patronizing, you sound so, you should do something about it.
I don't switch the comments off because I love discussion :-) Of course I can comment on your videos, the point is that I don't, because there would be no point to it.
frufruJ 2 years ago
@frufruJ
You think I am patronizing, I guess that is your problem if you feel that way. I gave a comment and you have to accept it. That's it.
MariadelMonaco 2 years ago 11
Sure, I accept it, otherwise I would have deleted it. I took my right to react to it :-)
frufruJ 2 years ago
@MariadelMonaco
Yes, of course. You have your opinion and I have my point of view. That is freedom of expression :).
MariadelMonaco 2 years ago 18
Ah ok, now I get you. You think he and the others you uploaded are good, because so many people think the are great. That is totally fine with me. I am calm, you should learn to accept criticism. You shouldn't be so offended. I have just one question, what idols do you mean? Singers who could sing? Do you think that is all over? I believe that one fine day.... Please don't take my hope for better days ;)!!!
MariadelMonaco 2 years ago 13
No, my opinion is that they are great, and so happen to think many other people, so I guess my taste is not entirely wrong.
There are no "better days". Singers have always been great, only now they are compared to the singers of the past, by people like you.
Tell me, do you have any more authority than me? Are you a famous singer, professor, or at least critic? You think these singers are bad, I think they are great. Thanks for sharing your opinion.
frufruJ 2 years ago
@frufruJ
I don't have to be a famous singer, professor or critic to give a comment. You don't have to defend yourself, you shouldn't emphasize my opinion. That's not necessary. You are the one who claims to have the right view. You can believe what ever you want. I am not interested in you and your lack of knowledge.
There are singers with quality or less quality in the past and now. But I see you can't bring forward arguments, you just repeat yourself.
MariadelMonaco 2 years ago 17
On one hand, you say that you don't have to be a professor, but at the same time you claim that I don't have any knowledge about singing and therefore my opinion is inferior. Make up your mind.
I didn't bring forward arguments? And have you, besides "singing like a frog"? There can't be any arguments besides "i like it" and "I dislike it". You've told us that you dislike Kaufmann, fine. I could tell you how I dislike Del Monaco, and that would be it.
frufruJ 2 years ago
yes you are absolutely right, thats why he sings in all major opera houses, because he displaces the ones out who are just worse than him. Sorry, i forgot you are the only expert on singing and on youtube. That is why you upload all this "great" singers. You know the the rules of music business. What a fool you are!
MariadelMonaco 2 years ago 14
HAHAHAHAHA!
And how do you explain the positive reviews? I don't seem to be the only person on Earth who thinks these singers are great, so calm down and think whether it's me or you who's stuck with their idols.
frufruJ 2 years ago
that is not as bad as the other Kaufmann Videos ;), but i do not understand why he sometimes gets the high notes quite well --substandard singing of course- and continues singing like a frog. I don't get it.
MariadelMonaco 2 years ago 14
"substandard singing of course"
"singing like a frog"
I guess that's why he sings in all major opera houses and gets the excellent reviews, right? Gah, I love YouTube Experts!
frufruJ 2 years ago
Is it just me or has Kaufmann been possessed by Roger Ramjet.....the beginning seems really nasally to me. Don't get me wrong, he has a great career. Just a thought that's all.
MaurizioRocco1970 2 years ago 6
che obrobio poi la bavina e propio bellina hiihih
xxxtiaxxx90 2 years ago 3
Siamo nelle mani di questa gente di merda!!! un'altro microfono non si trovava????
kiba380 2 years ago 8
Even Superman would need a microphone at the Kremlin palace.
frufruJ 2 years ago
who was conducting this concert?
ah332 2 years ago
Konstantine Orbelian. He often cooperates with Hvorostovsky, that's why.
frufruJ 2 years ago
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I adore his high "Toi" pianissimo. It's unbelievable.
LordoftheTrapdoors 2 years ago
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I think this is the best from Kaufmann thus far, the slower tempo and the faster vibrato he uses in places really makes his voice come alive :)
Bla7695976565486 2 years ago
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Mágnifico!
veroescobar81 2 years ago
BRAVO
coralrabida 2 years ago
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jackylen57 2 years ago
Marvelous!!!
Marcorotti 2 years ago
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Bellissima voce.
magnifica interpretazione.
Grazie frufruj per questo video. =)
MARISOLDELMONACO 2 years ago
Exquisitive as usual!
voce29 2 years ago
WoW! Thanks you very much!!
Have you duets with Kaufmann and Hvorostovsky? =)
jdf89 2 years ago
Sure =) Chronologically in one playlist.
frufruJ 2 years ago