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@atmeric Casinos have not stolen any ones money. Those that gamble do it of there own free will yes, there are offers to entice people to gamble in the casinos. But it's the choice of the person to gamble. They are not made to bet on the roll of the dice or put any money into any machine. Cheating a casino has never been legal anywhere and never will be.
actually it is, if they catch you, they will add u to the griffin book and kick you out, but you will not go to jail, unlike real cheating as in swaping cards.
@dabestplayer Griffin Investigations isn't nearly as dangerous as they used to. Due to a series of defamation lawsuits,they had to file for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy protection,which means Griffin is a LOT less widespread and less powerful than it used to be.Even with Biometrica taking over, facial recognition software has been around for years and surveillance drones have gotten a bunch of false reads. People who work in surveillance are effective against cheaters, but not so well against counters.
You will not be added to any book for one act of card counting. What is this griffin book you keep talking about? The State of Nevada does have a "book" that lists those that are banned from casinos by the State Gaming control board. The griffen book whatever it is would mean nothing in Nevada.
Yes it is. At least in the U.S. it is legal. The casino's are thought of as being private clubs however and can and do refuse to allow card counting to be done.
@GnomeXxXz If they broke the law and held you against your own will, stole your chips, backroomed you, beat you up, and/or falsely imprison you, they'd be violating your constitutional rights. Even in other countries, I'm very sure the victim would be able to sue successfully. James Grosjean won $500,000 from a series of lawsuits against the casinos because his rights were violated!
and how will they do that?? the casino than just pays 2 people each 10000 to make them say the casino was right we were exchanging verbal signals with the victim...
All I know is that if the casino breaks the law as a crime against you and you're a law-abiding player, you'll have a very good reason to sue. It's illegal for a casino in the US to backroom advantage players (like card counters) or anything else that I mentioned in my last comment.
yes you are right and that would be nice.. but i dont think we are living in a world were an honest man gets its right... at least not in my experience,,,
James Grosjean and Michael Russo did! Do some research on them. They won some major lawsuits against Griffin Investigations (an organization design to catch cheaters and law abiding adv. players, particularly card counters).
It works it's not a an advertising ploy. I have a few friends that have been asked to leave casino's in Vegas because they were suspected of counting cards. They actually had been counting.
@IPAWNMYQUEENS Absolutely!!! But for the amount of time,effort and patience it takes to count, it's not really worth it. Counting cards is WORK. HARD WORK. Period. if someone tells you any different they are liars. It's not just counting the cards. It's also adjusting basic strategy according to the count, then calculating the raw count into the actual count, then calculating the correct bet size, all done in less than one second. 99.9% who are 'counters' suck at it.
@4JayeP - Exactly right. That's why casinos have actually made plenty of money from counters, 'cause counting poorly is to one's detriment compared with playing Basic Strategy. Takes some serious practice to make it actually work in your favor.
@piracyhappens To top it all of, casino have come up with counter measures. 1) You can no longer jump into a game mid-shoe. 2) Automatic shuffle machines....so there goes ace tracking and shuffle tracking, which Stu Ungar was a master at 3) Once you sit down you are rated by the security people as either a recreational gambler , a good or bad basic strategy player, a lousy counter (which casino love) or a highly skilled player (they wanna get rid of you quick).
@swatz25 - I use Red Seven, developed by Arnold Snyder. It's a good unbalanced system b/c it means a lot less math to do at the table, and you've got room to grow with it (applying more detail) the better you get at it. How about you?
@piracyhappens any count system can be effective, along with shuffle tracking. but thanks to automatic shufflers and continuous shufflers, have fun trying to shuffle track or count.
Maybe today but back in the day it was a whole different ball game. And obviously don't try and cheat in an underground game. Well, if you do, don't get caught.
The days of being beat up are gone true. But just being asked to leave? No If you are caught actually cheating you will be arrested not only asked to leave. At least in Nevada or A.C. etc... Card counting you will be asked to leave. Yes you can be 86'ed from a casino if you set foot into the casino that banned you and they catch you, you will be arrested. Card Counting is legal but casino's don't allow it.
Shining a mirror around a table is the best way of get your hands broken out the back by a big hammer, I would think this is really a shit idea as it never really equates to winning.... only telling you what your up against.
If you can do without the use of your fingers take up skateboarding.
There's a difference between gambling with fair odds and unfair odds. Take roulette for example. There's 36 numbers on the wheel. If you bet $1 on 1 number your payoff is $35+your $1. Your odds of winning are 1/36. That is a fair gamble. However each roulette wheel has at least one 0, that means there are 37 numbers but the pay off is still only 1:36. So in the long run the house will ALWAYS win. Yes this is what casinos must do to stay in business but I still think it's a rip off.
@kazimierz198 greed and the lure of easy money trumps logic and good sense. Even if casinos had a sign out front saying you will loose 3 more often than you will win that sign would not detract someone lured by the fore-mentioned.
wow, that was necessary..lol. don't bother just telling him that they know he is cheating, and then ASK him to just leave....lol...fuckin stupid people sometimes.
There was nothing wrong with the way they took him down. They had to do it that way. It's the only way to do it when you have someone cheating in that way.
Years ago I was in a casino and I heard some commotion that sounded like this kind of an altercation. I wonder if it was something like this now. It sounded like a fight and the security was already over in the area. I forgot which casino it was.
If you come to a table with too much stuff in your hand or you are looking down too much you will automatically get the dealer's and supervisor's attention. If you are suspected of cheating in any way the camera will be called and the game is over, obviously the camera can go frame by frame in slow motion to see what you are doing.
Zouck, he was using a small mirror also known in the gambling/cheating world as a "shiner".. He was using this so he could see the reflection of cards being dealt giving him a statistical advantage
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rofl.. poor fellas.. they probably got the shit beaten out of them for cheating before being reported to the police.
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sternumagnum 1 year ago
wow, the old shiner trick. still effective
swatz25 1 year ago
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atmeric 1 year ago
@atmeric Casinos have not stolen any ones money. Those that gamble do it of there own free will yes, there are offers to entice people to gamble in the casinos. But it's the choice of the person to gamble. They are not made to bet on the roll of the dice or put any money into any machine. Cheating a casino has never been legal anywhere and never will be.
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sophiestevie1 2 years ago
if i found out someone cheating i would say: OMG U CHEATER and then i would cry and cut myself in a corner
Livenderrr 2 years ago
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TheRouletteCracker 2 years ago 2
No warning, just CLOCKED. Probably wouldn't fly nowadays.
0ucantstopme0 2 years ago
Card counting is legal.
ZuluDawn88 2 years ago 7
No it isn't!!
wesleyhoulihan 2 years ago
actually it is, if they catch you, they will add u to the griffin book and kick you out, but you will not go to jail, unlike real cheating as in swaping cards.
dabestplayer 2 years ago
@dabestplayer Griffin Investigations isn't nearly as dangerous as they used to. Due to a series of defamation lawsuits,they had to file for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy protection,which means Griffin is a LOT less widespread and less powerful than it used to be.Even with Biometrica taking over, facial recognition software has been around for years and surveillance drones have gotten a bunch of false reads. People who work in surveillance are effective against cheaters, but not so well against counters.
MONOPOLY35 2 years ago
You will not be added to any book for one act of card counting. What is this griffin book you keep talking about? The State of Nevada does have a "book" that lists those that are banned from casinos by the State Gaming control board. The griffen book whatever it is would mean nothing in Nevada.
RS1963 2 years ago
Yes it is. At least in the U.S. it is legal. The casino's are thought of as being private clubs however and can and do refuse to allow card counting to be done.
RS1963 2 years ago
it doesnt mean you wont get your ass kicked if u do count cards...
GnomeXxXz 2 years ago
@GnomeXxXz If they broke the law and held you against your own will, stole your chips, backroomed you, beat you up, and/or falsely imprison you, they'd be violating your constitutional rights. Even in other countries, I'm very sure the victim would be able to sue successfully. James Grosjean won $500,000 from a series of lawsuits against the casinos because his rights were violated!
MONOPOLY35 2 years ago
and how will they do that?? the casino than just pays 2 people each 10000 to make them say the casino was right we were exchanging verbal signals with the victim...
IPAWNMYQUEENS 2 years ago
All I know is that if the casino breaks the law as a crime against you and you're a law-abiding player, you'll have a very good reason to sue. It's illegal for a casino in the US to backroom advantage players (like card counters) or anything else that I mentioned in my last comment.
MONOPOLY35 2 years ago
yes you are right and that would be nice.. but i dont think we are living in a world were an honest man gets its right... at least not in my experience,,,
IPAWNMYQUEENS 2 years ago
James Grosjean and Michael Russo did! Do some research on them. They won some major lawsuits against Griffin Investigations (an organization design to catch cheaters and law abiding adv. players, particularly card counters).
MONOPOLY35 2 years ago
but seriously does card counting really work?? maybe its just and advertising scam by the casinos like the roulette system
IPAWNMYQUEENS 2 years ago
It works it's not a an advertising ploy. I have a few friends that have been asked to leave casino's in Vegas because they were suspected of counting cards. They actually had been counting.
RS1963 2 years ago
@IPAWNMYQUEENS Absolutely!!! But for the amount of time,effort and patience it takes to count, it's not really worth it. Counting cards is WORK. HARD WORK. Period. if someone tells you any different they are liars. It's not just counting the cards. It's also adjusting basic strategy according to the count, then calculating the raw count into the actual count, then calculating the correct bet size, all done in less than one second. 99.9% who are 'counters' suck at it.
4JayeP 1 year ago
@4JayeP - Exactly right. That's why casinos have actually made plenty of money from counters, 'cause counting poorly is to one's detriment compared with playing Basic Strategy. Takes some serious practice to make it actually work in your favor.
piracyhappens 1 year ago
@piracyhappens To top it all of, casino have come up with counter measures. 1) You can no longer jump into a game mid-shoe. 2) Automatic shuffle machines....so there goes ace tracking and shuffle tracking, which Stu Ungar was a master at 3) Once you sit down you are rated by the security people as either a recreational gambler , a good or bad basic strategy player, a lousy counter (which casino love) or a highly skilled player (they wanna get rid of you quick).
4JayeP 1 year ago
@piracyhappens
what count system do you try to use?
swatz25 1 year ago
@swatz25 - I use Red Seven, developed by Arnold Snyder. It's a good unbalanced system b/c it means a lot less math to do at the table, and you've got room to grow with it (applying more detail) the better you get at it. How about you?
piracyhappens 1 year ago
@piracyhappens any count system can be effective, along with shuffle tracking. but thanks to automatic shufflers and continuous shufflers, have fun trying to shuffle track or count.
swatz25 8 months ago
Lol, it's just like Voyeurism, it's looked down upon, and you can't get caught.
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nick00580 2 years ago 2
youi wouldnt last a second with these type of juvinille cheats in a casino.
JadeTomZ 3 years ago 4
Casinos do not hurt you if they catch you cheating. This is b.s. They simply ask you to leave.
cgustafson 3 years ago
Maybe today but back in the day it was a whole different ball game. And obviously don't try and cheat in an underground game. Well, if you do, don't get caught.
sjsawyer 3 years ago 6
The days of being beat up are gone true. But just being asked to leave? No If you are caught actually cheating you will be arrested not only asked to leave. At least in Nevada or A.C. etc... Card counting you will be asked to leave. Yes you can be 86'ed from a casino if you set foot into the casino that banned you and they catch you, you will be arrested. Card Counting is legal but casino's don't allow it.
RS1963 2 years ago
i used to do this but insted of a mirror i had a gun and i just told him to show me the cards
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darkyandrey 3 years ago
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me too
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RAYtheIMAN 1 year ago
Shining a mirror around a table is the best way of get your hands broken out the back by a big hammer, I would think this is really a shit idea as it never really equates to winning.... only telling you what your up against.
If you can do without the use of your fingers take up skateboarding.
edgebet 3 years ago 2
meh, casinos rip people off all the time through unfair odds. That's how they stay in business.
kazimierz198 3 years ago 21
@kazimierz198 unfair odds lol thats called gambling...like they should be "fair" and make it so everyone wins and they lose money..brilliant
treezX 1 year ago
@treezX
There's a difference between gambling with fair odds and unfair odds. Take roulette for example. There's 36 numbers on the wheel. If you bet $1 on 1 number your payoff is $35+your $1. Your odds of winning are 1/36. That is a fair gamble. However each roulette wheel has at least one 0, that means there are 37 numbers but the pay off is still only 1:36. So in the long run the house will ALWAYS win. Yes this is what casinos must do to stay in business but I still think it's a rip off.
kazimierz198 1 year ago
@kazimierz198 of course its a "rip off" a casino could not operate if it couldnt guarantee profits
treezX 1 year ago
@treezX exactly which is why the casino never gambles. They dont hope to get lucky.
badpanda84 1 year ago
@kazimierz198 if people knew the odds why would they play?
d7gh2u99wd 1 year ago
@kazimierz198
You've got a lot to learn about las vagas.
RAYtheIMAN 1 year ago
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akafortes 1 year ago
@kazimierz198 no1 forces you to go and gamble.Casinos are businesses,not charity to give away money
akafortes 1 year ago
@kazimierz198 greed and the lure of easy money trumps logic and good sense. Even if casinos had a sign out front saying you will loose 3 more often than you will win that sign would not detract someone lured by the fore-mentioned.
karlirani 11 months ago
@karlirani so sad and true
Iizardkingz 11 months ago
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DaveRio42 7 months ago
wow, that was necessary..lol. don't bother just telling him that they know he is cheating, and then ASK him to just leave....lol...fuckin stupid people sometimes.
zippy0099 3 years ago 2
Exactly. Why not just ASK him to leave. very simple, no fuss.
garrip 3 years ago 5
thats no fun.
haha jk. im sure they just want him out, they dont want to worry about him getting pissed before they have him.
1234magicman4321 2 years ago
There was nothing wrong with the way they took him down. They had to do it that way. It's the only way to do it when you have someone cheating in that way.
RS1963 2 years ago
@RS1963 yes they have to catch him sitting with the mirror in his hand, its not illegal to have a mirror in ur pocket
d7gh2u99wd 1 year ago
did they just smack that guy across his face?
WRXSTi16 3 years ago
Yes they beat him up a little but,what can you do he cheated
asguyhandsome 3 years ago
"they had to take them out on the heavy" funniest line ever
flhr2000 3 years ago 5
Years ago I was in a casino and I heard some commotion that sounded like this kind of an altercation. I wonder if it was something like this now. It sounded like a fight and the security was already over in the area. I forgot which casino it was.
cochranexyz 3 years ago
If you come to a table with too much stuff in your hand or you are looking down too much you will automatically get the dealer's and supervisor's attention. If you are suspected of cheating in any way the camera will be called and the game is over, obviously the camera can go frame by frame in slow motion to see what you are doing.
blackstroke1 4 years ago 3
Zouck, he was using a small mirror also known in the gambling/cheating world as a "shiner".. He was using this so he could see the reflection of cards being dealt giving him a statistical advantage
GeorgeGilbertMagic 4 years ago 2