Αυτό το video όπως και όλα τα υπόλοιπα ''Διαμάντια'' που μας κληροδότησε ο Αείμνηστος Carl Sagan,θα μπορούσαν ν'αποτελέσουν ''άριστο'' εκπαιδευτικό υλικό για όλες τις βαθμίδες εκπ/σης των παιδιών μας!Ανθρωπος και λαμπρός επιστήμων με ΚΕΦΑΛΑΙΑ ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΑ ΓΡΑΜΜΑΤΑ!!!Κρίμμα που έφυγε τόσο νέος.
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Im sure he was very smart. But he seem not to have understand the whole picture, and many people use his quotes totally wrong, just to avoid any real discussions.
Alexander the Great lived about 3 centuries after the pioneers of science.
Greeks did not "learn" this knowledge and ideas, but they invented them.
Don't forget that Greece is also the motherland of Democracy.
As Sagan says, Greeks had the freedom of thought and speech, so they used their free minds to discover new things. They were not punished about their sayings.
All the other people were "prisoners" to religion dogmas and to what the priests and kings were saying.
Well, the ancient greece was a very polytheistic civilization, riddled with folklore and superstition (just look at Greek mythology), and Socrates was tried for heresy according to some sources, so I wouldn't go so far as to say it wasn't dogmatic and non-secular. But since it was a pretty ancient civilization, it gets a pass on that.
@Nyhteritis I think there are some misconceptions. According to John Ferguson in ``Age of Hellenism'', they did not have as much freedom as one would think. Greek *were* punished for their non-conforming beliefs by exile and even death. Watch the series where Sagan discusses about Democritus of Abdura. (And we all know which famous Greek died by hemlock for upsetting the gods). Ferguson also points out that, for all their smarts, Alexandrian Greeks gave us the damn astrological horoscope. :(
@Nyhteritis Of course, every great culture is formed by multiples of cultures influencing it. Influence is NOT stealing. Greece did receive influence from Egypt and Mesopotamia. They all influence one another.
It might be true that other people were somewhat imprisoned, but that doesn't mean they did not contribute significantly to the human progress. Think of civilisation itself, it began between the Tigris and the Euphrates rivers.
@blackberrydro i live in the island of Samos...come in Samos and you will discover yourself who inspired Greeks-not being a chauvinist or a sectionalist, i'm just a human being that was born in greece,samos and i feel blessed for that- but this is the truth...it has to do with the surrounding enviroment, the sun, the clima...the place was/is the perfect nest for the growing of human mind.trust me...of course i'd wish for the people of Greece to be supporters/continuers of this aspect but...
@nireiny That is true in a way. The Mediterranean area is ideal to settle down, has few poisonous critters, provides plenty plants and fish, and isn't too hot..
@blackberrydro According to ``Greek Science'' (Pelican; Benjamin Farrington) Greeks were heavily influenced by Near East and Mediterranean cultures who lived along Nile, Tigris-Euphrates, and Indus rivers. They got their ideas from the Assyrians, Phoenicians (writing systems), Hittites (metal smelting), Egyptians (wheel, column, bronze crafting, calendar, weights & measures, measuring land), Hebrews (literature style), Minoans, and Persians. They extended upon previous knowledge.
Oddly enough, Christianity works around a text that features a deity who supports the idea of slavery. This text was, indeed, used to justify the enslavement of men and women until very far into the 19th century in some countries.
It was also a text that we used to justify the idea of our modern concept of human rights against people who felt only might made right.
Don't allow yourself to be consumed by some stupid, anti-Christian outlook. Europe would have remained a backwater without the Church, and all science as we know it would never have been possible without religion.
Perhaps you are a slave driver. The major contributions of wealthy nations like the US are in knowledge. Our nation derives much of its material possessions from the hard under payed labor of poorer countries. If you purchase fruit from South America or clothes from Vietnam you support this system.
"Our nation derives much of its material possessions from the hard under payed labor of poorer countries. "
That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. Long before the US was extensively involved in world trade, its standard of living was rising much faster than the rest of the world due to super infrastructure, an efficient legal system, and separation of powers.
The 3rd world benefits far more from the knowledge produced in the US than the US benefits from 3rd world labor.
Without poorer nations our standard of living would be lower today. For example: in the U.S. and particularly in Montana where I live, activists lobbied for harsher laws concerning logging. This made logging too expensive so loggers imported more lumber from South America where the protective laws don't exist therefore shifting our deforestation problem to a poorer less developed country. Without this alternative, furniture would cost more. You'd have less furniture or less other stuff.
Mr. danieleriskay, if cutting down forests doesn't cause deforestation, what does?
Do you know how long deciduous forests need to regenerate?
I guess you are talking about managed, sustainable forestry. Sadly, most logging companies don't give a shit about management or sustainability. They want the cash now and fuck the consequences. Your faith in the powerful is touching but naive. Did the financiers think about the long term effects of their reckless lending? No, they are greedy lemmings.
So you know better than those brown people from "less developed" countries, huh? Nice.
If you're so concerned about those places becoming developed, you ought to welcome them trading with the US, Japan, Europe, and other "developed" countries. It's the means by which the purchase the things we make here which help them become more developed.
Yes, your right I'm a racist asshole. By less developed I obviously meant that those people are less evolved than we white people. GIven the context of our discussion I couldn't possibly have meant it in terms of industry, commerce, government, or technology.
"'GIven the context of our discussion I couldn't possibly have meant it in terms of industry, commerce, government, or technology."
Yes, you're absolutely right about that. You couldn't have meant it any other way. Only those wildly undeveloped people would be so ignorant and unsophisticated as to make laws you might not like.
Also, your right. There's never been any clear cutting in america. If you took a trip from Billings, MT to Seattle WA back in say 1990, all those stumps you saw on the hillsides in Washington and Idaho were naturally there.
Oh, I forgot. They didn't leave those in eyeshot of I-90 because they knew what would happen if the fucking tourists saw it.
How did you get on the subject of clear-cutting? I thought we were talking about de-forestation. Having worked in forestry here (and that awful, filthy, undeveloped 3rd world) I know perfectly well that forests will rush right back in if you go about it properly.
Logging is not de-forestation. Not even clear cutting is.
Would you quit putting words in my mouth. I never said awful, filthy, undeveloped, ignorant, unsophisticated. I never even said I don't like the laws.
By deforestation I meant mass removal of trees for logging. Sorry about the confusion. And yes they will rush back in if you do it properly. But it doesn't always get done properly. And if it costs more to do it properly one might be inclined to go somewhere where it doesn't have to be done properly. It happened in Montana so don't tell me it doesn't happen.
I am not against logging by any means. It killed our economy to loose logging and mining.
SirNewt, what killed the economy was the logging. without forest there is not game, no paint ball, no forest fruit. no nature trails, no boar hunting or fishing of any real sport. the crazy right sell anything to make a profit, unsustainably, it is the destruction of our wealth and heritage. even forests which 'spring back' are vulnerable to fire as they tend to be much dryer with more shrub. unless you break the corps power the whole US will be a boring dust bowl.
Because that is what logging does everywhere else. big corps. with their league of paid for right wing political creeps. deregulate the logging until the logging is complete, ie no forest. The world is loosing all it's trees for a few pennies for the nasty rich. and the world is left with all the wealth stripped out of it. or do you know another kind of logging that plants trees? bush passed a law forbidding foresters from talking to the press. see a pattern. the right rapes the world.
And largely, I agree with you. But what killed Montana's economy here and now was people outside the state lobbying for harsher environmental laws People who had real paying jobs are struggling to support their families in the service industry. It's for the best that logging has stopped but I won't sit here and blindly see one side of the story. It's a situation where two opposing viewpoints are completely right, the families without jobs and the environmentalists.
Now you tell me that someone studying china with an open mind and an unbiased scope will over rule their successes because of their mistakes? all cultures have fucked histories at one point or another but that doesn't define their contributions or their futures
Closing this disccusion ridemybmw, I remind you that as today we have Democracy (thanks to these Greeks), if you don't like science, technology, sports, arts, and their founders, you are free to go to live in a desert, without anything of them , talking all day to the priests and to the gods(if you find any), telling fictions about pedophiles, eunnuch and other porno stuff.
The greatest thing these Philosophers did, was that they realized the power of the human mind , and they throw away all this mumbo jumbo priest things.
Today you would still be a slave to the priests, without them.
If your local priest ordered you "jump to save your soul" , you would say "how high"?
For me, God is one thing to discuss, but priests (you know, the guys that "talk directly to the God" so they can save or they can burn your soul), is another thing.
The Great Philosophers passed our world from the dark times of ANY religion monarchy , to the light of the logic and science true.
Today we have knowledge , medical science ,astronomy, mathematics, geometry, geography, biology, meteorology, physic, cosmology, e.t.c.because of these Great Greek Philosophers.
Also we have Democracy, athletic ideals and many arts, because of them,too.
In our days, we have seen great Scientists like Sagan, so we can say that the Spirit of the Pioneers of Science is still alive.
First of all your nick would be "ride my mule", if there were not these Great Greek Philosophers and Scientists.
Why? just because anything we use today (including your BMW) is based to technology, and technology would n't exist without these Pioneers of Science and Technology.
LOL you should thank those "perverts" for the English you're writing in and The Education you have(assuming you have one) not directly of course but you do know they were one of the first civilization's that had Organized Education, Douche
Carl Sagan, one of the Great Teachers of all time. Having voluminous information stored in libraries, homes, brains, computers, and elsewhere is one thing. Having someone to come along to put the different pieces of information together, as "knowledge," in both a coherent AND an interesting way --- THAT takes a great teacher!
Not trying to sound disrespectful but i think they modeled agents smiths character based on Carl Sagan not his ideas just the voice and speech patterns listen to agents smiths rant in the first matrix and tell me if im crazy or not
If only that civilization became the dominant one. But then, technological humans do tend to be more dangerous, in that their ability to do harm is greater. Carl Sagan rules!
Αυτό το video όπως και όλα τα υπόλοιπα ''Διαμάντια'' που μας κληροδότησε ο Αείμνηστος Carl Sagan,θα μπορούσαν ν'αποτελέσουν ''άριστο'' εκπαιδευτικό υλικό για όλες τις βαθμίδες εκπ/σης των παιδιών μας!Ανθρωπος και λαμπρός επιστήμων με ΚΕΦΑΛΑΙΑ ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΑ ΓΡΑΜΜΑΤΑ!!!Κρίμμα που έφυγε τόσο νέος.
christidistakis 5 months ago
lol carl sagen, drr drr drr at 4:40
ptwob 11 months ago
smoke weed errday. Mr X is the man.
rarulis 1 year ago 2
Talk by Carl Sagan and music by Isao Tomita = heaven!
alien8ted 1 year ago
Science is the thru Luc Clymans
LucMoustache1 1 year ago
Glory to the Greeks!!!!
nixter888 2 years ago
CARL SAGAN is the wise man of all time.
Carl lives on.
mohfoz77 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Im sure he was very smart. But he seem not to have understand the whole picture, and many people use his quotes totally wrong, just to avoid any real discussions.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
Cool another gr8 doco :-) Thx
petestrat07 2 years ago
Carl Sagan was an absolute Genius.
I have one question though. Who inspired the Greeks? Or better yet, where and when did they learn this knowledge and ideas?
Right off the walls in Kemet
I mean Kemet (Egypt) pre dates Greece, does it not? Did Alexander the Greek not take over Kemet?
blackberrydro 2 years ago
Hi blackberrydro.
Alexander the Great lived about 3 centuries after the pioneers of science.
Greeks did not "learn" this knowledge and ideas, but they invented them.
Don't forget that Greece is also the motherland of Democracy.
As Sagan says, Greeks had the freedom of thought and speech, so they used their free minds to discover new things. They were not punished about their sayings.
All the other people were "prisoners" to religion dogmas and to what the priests and kings were saying.
Nyhteritis 2 years ago 7
Well, the ancient greece was a very polytheistic civilization, riddled with folklore and superstition (just look at Greek mythology), and Socrates was tried for heresy according to some sources, so I wouldn't go so far as to say it wasn't dogmatic and non-secular. But since it was a pretty ancient civilization, it gets a pass on that.
akamola11 2 years ago 2
@Nyhteritis
Your missing the entire point of the series, there are no Greeks.
Only humans.
projectbrumaire 1 year ago
@Nyhteritis I think there are some misconceptions. According to John Ferguson in ``Age of Hellenism'', they did not have as much freedom as one would think. Greek *were* punished for their non-conforming beliefs by exile and even death. Watch the series where Sagan discusses about Democritus of Abdura. (And we all know which famous Greek died by hemlock for upsetting the gods). Ferguson also points out that, for all their smarts, Alexandrian Greeks gave us the damn astrological horoscope. :(
UseAsDirected100 4 months ago
@Nyhteritis EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
aliearia03 4 months ago
@Nyhteritis Of course, every great culture is formed by multiples of cultures influencing it. Influence is NOT stealing. Greece did receive influence from Egypt and Mesopotamia. They all influence one another.
It might be true that other people were somewhat imprisoned, but that doesn't mean they did not contribute significantly to the human progress. Think of civilisation itself, it began between the Tigris and the Euphrates rivers.
satoofi93 6 days ago
It matters not - the fact is, they made the knowledge available.
utopiac 2 years ago
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nixter888 2 years ago
@blackberrydro i live in the island of Samos...come in Samos and you will discover yourself who inspired Greeks-not being a chauvinist or a sectionalist, i'm just a human being that was born in greece,samos and i feel blessed for that- but this is the truth...it has to do with the surrounding enviroment, the sun, the clima...the place was/is the perfect nest for the growing of human mind.trust me...of course i'd wish for the people of Greece to be supporters/continuers of this aspect but...
nireiny 1 year ago 2
@nireiny That is true in a way. The Mediterranean area is ideal to settle down, has few poisonous critters, provides plenty plants and fish, and isn't too hot..
Chrysaetos11 7 months ago
@blackberrydro Wasnt Alexander from Macedonia?
LamaPaj 5 months ago
@LamaPaj
Alexander was from Macedonia which is (and was) part of Greece like Athens or Creta.
Don't confuse the original Macedonia of Greece with the country (Fyrom) that want to use the name of Macedonia in our days.
allosenas1 5 months ago
@allosenas1 oh k
LamaPaj 5 months ago
@blackberrydro According to ``Greek Science'' (Pelican; Benjamin Farrington) Greeks were heavily influenced by Near East and Mediterranean cultures who lived along Nile, Tigris-Euphrates, and Indus rivers. They got their ideas from the Assyrians, Phoenicians (writing systems), Hittites (metal smelting), Egyptians (wheel, column, bronze crafting, calendar, weights & measures, measuring land), Hebrews (literature style), Minoans, and Persians. They extended upon previous knowledge.
UseAsDirected100 4 months ago
"Thales had a similar view... but... he... left... Marduk... OUT."
I love this guy. Wish he was still with us.
gresach 2 years ago 7
EXCELLENT.
CARL SAGAN was the wise man of the 20th century.
We miss him dearly.
mohfoz77 2 years ago 13
Knock it off you fagwhines.
arseymcpherson 3 years ago
why are all my comments doubled? Good ol' Carl.
1OitarNedlog 3 years ago
Oddly enough, Christianity works around a text that features a deity who supports the idea of slavery. This text was, indeed, used to justify the enslavement of men and women until very far into the 19th century in some countries.
Myndir 3 years ago 2
It was also a text that we used to justify the idea of our modern concept of human rights against people who felt only might made right.
Don't allow yourself to be consumed by some stupid, anti-Christian outlook. Europe would have remained a backwater without the Church, and all science as we know it would never have been possible without religion.
danieleriskay 3 years ago
Excellent.The ancients had a different communal system outside your understanding of the Fed controlled global slavery.Waky,waky
kerverosel 3 years ago
Are you joking or just plain stupid? Slavery was everywhere back in those days.
What is up with this superstitious based thinking that we humans are worse now than we were before?
Luineancaion 2 years ago
Excellent post - many thanks.
2cabs2toucan 4 years ago
Okay, I know this is dumb... But if you listen to just the audio, it sounds like Morpheus is giving you a science lesson.
EricHerboso 4 years ago
I meant Agent Smith, obviously.
EricHerboso 4 years ago
Perhaps you are a slave driver. The major contributions of wealthy nations like the US are in knowledge. Our nation derives much of its material possessions from the hard under payed labor of poorer countries. If you purchase fruit from South America or clothes from Vietnam you support this system.
SirNewt 4 years ago
"Our nation derives much of its material possessions from the hard under payed labor of poorer countries. "
That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. Long before the US was extensively involved in world trade, its standard of living was rising much faster than the rest of the world due to super infrastructure, an efficient legal system, and separation of powers.
The 3rd world benefits far more from the knowledge produced in the US than the US benefits from 3rd world labor.
danieleriskay 3 years ago
Without poorer nations our standard of living would be lower today. For example: in the U.S. and particularly in Montana where I live, activists lobbied for harsher laws concerning logging. This made logging too expensive so loggers imported more lumber from South America where the protective laws don't exist therefore shifting our deforestation problem to a poorer less developed country. Without this alternative, furniture would cost more. You'd have less furniture or less other stuff.
SirNewt 3 years ago
"from South America where the protective laws don't exist therefore shifting our deforestation problem "
LOL. The problem is that logging does not, in and of itself, lead to deforestation. Only converting the land to another use leads to deforestation.
Furthermore, I sense an implicit racism in your comments.
danieleriskay 3 years ago
Mr. danieleriskay, if cutting down forests doesn't cause deforestation, what does?
Do you know how long deciduous forests need to regenerate?
I guess you are talking about managed, sustainable forestry. Sadly, most logging companies don't give a shit about management or sustainability. They want the cash now and fuck the consequences. Your faith in the powerful is touching but naive. Did the financiers think about the long term effects of their reckless lending? No, they are greedy lemmings.
PeelTower 3 years ago
We know the damage this will do and that it is wrong. If you don't call that exploitation you may need a dictionary.
SirNewt 3 years ago
So you know better than those brown people from "less developed" countries, huh? Nice.
If you're so concerned about those places becoming developed, you ought to welcome them trading with the US, Japan, Europe, and other "developed" countries. It's the means by which the purchase the things we make here which help them become more developed.
danieleriskay 3 years ago
Yes, your right I'm a racist asshole. By less developed I obviously meant that those people are less evolved than we white people. GIven the context of our discussion I couldn't possibly have meant it in terms of industry, commerce, government, or technology.
SirNewt 3 years ago
"'GIven the context of our discussion I couldn't possibly have meant it in terms of industry, commerce, government, or technology."
Yes, you're absolutely right about that. You couldn't have meant it any other way. Only those wildly undeveloped people would be so ignorant and unsophisticated as to make laws you might not like.
danieleriskay 3 years ago
Also, your right. There's never been any clear cutting in america. If you took a trip from Billings, MT to Seattle WA back in say 1990, all those stumps you saw on the hillsides in Washington and Idaho were naturally there.
Oh, I forgot. They didn't leave those in eyeshot of I-90 because they knew what would happen if the fucking tourists saw it.
SirNewt 3 years ago
How did you get on the subject of clear-cutting? I thought we were talking about de-forestation. Having worked in forestry here (and that awful, filthy, undeveloped 3rd world) I know perfectly well that forests will rush right back in if you go about it properly.
Logging is not de-forestation. Not even clear cutting is.
danieleriskay 3 years ago
Would you quit putting words in my mouth. I never said awful, filthy, undeveloped, ignorant, unsophisticated. I never even said I don't like the laws.
SirNewt 3 years ago
By deforestation I meant mass removal of trees for logging. Sorry about the confusion. And yes they will rush back in if you do it properly. But it doesn't always get done properly. And if it costs more to do it properly one might be inclined to go somewhere where it doesn't have to be done properly. It happened in Montana so don't tell me it doesn't happen.
I am not against logging by any means. It killed our economy to loose logging and mining.
SirNewt 3 years ago
SirNewt, what killed the economy was the logging. without forest there is not game, no paint ball, no forest fruit. no nature trails, no boar hunting or fishing of any real sport. the crazy right sell anything to make a profit, unsustainably, it is the destruction of our wealth and heritage. even forests which 'spring back' are vulnerable to fire as they tend to be much dryer with more shrub. unless you break the corps power the whole US will be a boring dust bowl.
marsCubed 2 years ago
"what killed the economy was the logging"
With all due respect, how the hell would you know?
SirNewt 2 years ago
Because that is what logging does everywhere else. big corps. with their league of paid for right wing political creeps. deregulate the logging until the logging is complete, ie no forest. The world is loosing all it's trees for a few pennies for the nasty rich. and the world is left with all the wealth stripped out of it. or do you know another kind of logging that plants trees? bush passed a law forbidding foresters from talking to the press. see a pattern. the right rapes the world.
marsCubed 2 years ago
And largely, I agree with you. But what killed Montana's economy here and now was people outside the state lobbying for harsher environmental laws People who had real paying jobs are struggling to support their families in the service industry. It's for the best that logging has stopped but I won't sit here and blindly see one side of the story. It's a situation where two opposing viewpoints are completely right, the families without jobs and the environmentalists.
SirNewt 2 years ago
From Wiki: Clearcutting or clearfelling is a forestry/logging practice in which the clear majority of all trees in a forest sector are cut down.
SirNewt 3 years ago
That was an unfortunate part of that civilizations
history,one can argue that in many different cultures
not just in Greece/Rome ,like for example the China
has a strong work ethic and handle a large portion of the product manufacturing for the whole world
but they have many internal problems and human rights
violation issues
xxrigo22xx 4 years ago
Now you tell me that someone studying china with an open mind and an unbiased scope will over rule their successes because of their mistakes? all cultures have fucked histories at one point or another but that doesn't define their contributions or their futures
xxrigo22xx 4 years ago
I know some high school students who love to travel back in time just to kick Thales´ butt for introducing Geometry to Western Civilization.
RideMyBMW 4 years ago
I know some high school students who WOULD love to travel back in time just to kick Thales´ butt for introducing Geometry to Western Civilization.
RideMyBMW 4 years ago
Maybe some school students hate geometry, so what?
Today we use geometry everywhere, for example in astronomy , in GPS systems, and everywhere there is automation in production lines.
Do we have to go back in the cave centuries, just because some people can not understand the worth of sciences?
Nyhteritis 4 years ago
Since I haven´t even begun to wheel out my "pagan busting" big guns...Sagan the Pagan and his Saganites are in for a rude awakening.
RideMyBMW 4 years ago
Closing this disccusion ridemybmw, I remind you that as today we have Democracy (thanks to these Greeks), if you don't like science, technology, sports, arts, and their founders, you are free to go to live in a desert, without anything of them , talking all day to the priests and to the gods(if you find any), telling fictions about pedophiles, eunnuch and other porno stuff.
Nyhteritis 4 years ago
The greatest thing these Philosophers did, was that they realized the power of the human mind , and they throw away all this mumbo jumbo priest things.
Today you would still be a slave to the priests, without them.
If your local priest ordered you "jump to save your soul" , you would say "how high"?
Nyhteritis 4 years ago
For me, God is one thing to discuss, but priests (you know, the guys that "talk directly to the God" so they can save or they can burn your soul), is another thing.
The Great Philosophers passed our world from the dark times of ANY religion monarchy , to the light of the logic and science true.
Nyhteritis 4 years ago
Today we have knowledge , medical science ,astronomy, mathematics, geometry, geography, biology, meteorology, physic, cosmology, e.t.c.because of these Great Greek Philosophers.
Also we have Democracy, athletic ideals and many arts, because of them,too.
In our days, we have seen great Scientists like Sagan, so we can say that the Spirit of the Pioneers of Science is still alive.
Nyhteritis 4 years ago
First of all your nick would be "ride my mule", if there were not these Great Greek Philosophers and Scientists.
Why? just because anything we use today (including your BMW) is based to technology, and technology would n't exist without these Pioneers of Science and Technology.
Nyhteritis 4 years ago
I have to dismiss you as a troll,seeing as how you bring nothing of educational value to ANY discussion ,so in closing you FAIL...
xxrigo22xx 4 years ago
You say pagan like its a bad thing
A slave to Eunnuch?
sounds like you are a slave to a god
the9milethug 4 years ago
LOL you should thank those "perverts" for the English you're writing in and The Education you have(assuming you have one) not directly of course but you do know they were one of the first civilization's that had Organized Education, Douche
xxrigo22xx 4 years ago
cool i actually know something lol,i must now save the world
xxrigo22xx 4 years ago
Carl Sagan, one of the Great Teachers of all time. Having voluminous information stored in libraries, homes, brains, computers, and elsewhere is one thing. Having someone to come along to put the different pieces of information together, as "knowledge," in both a coherent AND an interesting way --- THAT takes a great teacher!
HenryDavidThoreauII 4 years ago
Not trying to sound disrespectful but i think they modeled agents smiths character based on Carl Sagan not his ideas just the voice and speech patterns listen to agents smiths rant in the first matrix and tell me if im crazy or not
xxrigo22xx 4 years ago
I agree with you all.
Fabricwarp 4 years ago
"tend to be more dangerous" people only attack what they don't understand, if everyone was smart and knew what carl knew we wouldn't harm 1 another
mattbourke 4 years ago
If only that civilization became the dominant one. But then, technological humans do tend to be more dangerous, in that their ability to do harm is greater. Carl Sagan rules!
SardonicusRexx 4 years ago
Πολύ καλό!!!
Kostas10 4 years ago