@Logic4Win Follow up; It seems that Stein has had a couple dozen engagements since, a few voice gigs for animated shows, and a scattering of guest speaking spots. Late Late Show and CBS seem to love Stein.
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1:27 ...not really, I don't think. Even over a hundred years earlier, I think Leonardo used alchemy as an example of a generally recognized pseudoscience, didn't he? Newton himself believed in alchemy, but he was a little crazy.
Also, I think there's something really important to be understood about creationist attempts to undermine the scientific method. I don't think they genuinely fail to understand it at all. Some of them are fairly intelligent people, it's just that they want the rest of us to completely disregard facts and accept the belief system that gives them the power to run our country. It's not about saving souls, it's about winning votes, and completely fucking the public education system in the process.
Gah, evolutionists are so retarded to believe that life originated with the singular event of lightning striking a mud puddle! Everyone knows it was God blowing into a handful of dirt!
Creationists say that elements can not create other elements. We say. THE SUN!!! and here is the exact reason why. The Atomic bomb! Here is exactly why. A Dying star!! Here is exactly why. "Ya but where's the evidence"? The Nuclear power plant where you get your electricity from. Here's how. Here's 50 books on it. Here's 50 videos. Ya but where's the evidence? Ever hear of Hubble or Apollo missions. You can see what the Universe looked like 13.7 billion years ago. Ya but....God did it. Absolute
Its pointless arguing. Creationists and theists ask for proof. It is given in abundance. They say but where's the evidence? We give more. They say, but where's the evidence? Their Brains are underdeveloped and physically can't process data. If you see all the advances in the world as a whole, all the technology, and still won't even entertain the idea? Pathetic.
The sad thing is, this guy and his creationist supporters have no idea of the chemicals or processes you outline. It's all big fancy words that go over their heads..
Kent Hovind is in jail because he was trying to warn the world that their is a dark agenda out there that aims at destroying the morality of every man woman and child making them into beasts. In fact Darwinism states that we evolved from mere beasts. God says you should hold your head up because you have been given free will by an all powerful all wise and all loving Creator. Jesus answered "Woe to them who worship the Created (Monkeys/Primates) rather then the Creator."
@csmcmillion Evolution, and indeed not Darwinism or Evolutionism, does not expain the origin of life, it explains the diversity of life (hence the name of the book: the origin of spieces).
@Floortjahh Yes, I know. My statement "We evolved from the most primitive forms of life" reflects only the fact that we are simply colonies of single cells.
@Floortjahh That is just stupid. Free will means Free will which means the freedom to do whatever you want regardless of where it came from. Why would you want a say in having free will? Would you rather Authoritarianism?
@Floortjahh Well I have free will to be nice to people and it just so happens that the religion I believe in encourages just that. Religion is only bad when people take bad parts out of it or somehow try to misconstrue certain parts of it like Romans 13 which Hitler misconstrued for his own purposes.
@JamesRideout123 But then, you are nice because you are led by the commandments. You are nice because you want to get into heaven and not go to hell. You get your morality from God. So how can this be free will? You act that way because God commands it. Because if you don't you go to hell.
How can this be free will? Isn't it much more admirable to be moral on your own? Out of free will? Without fear of eternal damnation?
@Floortjahh Point taken but the fact of the matter is if it wasn't for this I highly doubt there would be many people who would be nice to people and even fewer who would adhere to the rule of law if it wasn't for fear of God and his judgments. I would hate to say that people in the end can only be ruled by fear like animals but unfortunately this is the case most of the time. People will walk all over the good guys and will not stop until they get scared. I know from experience.
@JamesRideout123 There are people all over the world who do not believe in God and are prefectly able to do good. In fact, a civilization would not be able to survive if everyone went pludering and killing everyone else. It makes perfect sense to think that humans as a highly social species would have evolved to be nice to each other, otherwise that civiliztion would not have been able to survive. Especially in small communities, where the people around you were probably members of your family
@JamesRideout123 on the other hand, is it not true that people, thinking they have God on their side, will do wicked and evil things? Things a normal person would not think of doing?
The famous Hitchens challenge:
Name an ethical or moral statement made or action performed by a believer in the name of faith that could not have been by an infidel.
Name a wicked action that could only have been performed by a person of faith.
@TheNaughtypine In a severe situation, for example if you were surrounded by wolves and all you had was a rifle or a gun you would fire the rifle or gun and the wolves would flee. Why is that? Because fear has taken over them. In that situation you would control it by fear. Running out and trying to hug the wolves isn't going to help you and when you look at the mob mentality of the US the same rules apply. People who act like animals deserve to be treated like them.
@Floortjahh Point taken but the fact of the matter is if it wasn't for this I highly doubt there would be many people who would be nice to people and even fewer who would adhere to the rule of law if it wasn't for fear of God and his judgments. I would hate to say that people in the end can only be ruled by fear like animals but unfortunately this is the case most of the time. People will walk all over the good guys and will not stop until they get scared. I know from experience.
@Floortjahh Point taken but the fact of the matter is if it wasn't for this I highly doubt there would be many people who would be nice to people and even fewer who would adhere to the rule of law if it wasn't for fear of God and his judgments. I would hate to say that people in the end can only be ruled by fear like animals but unfortunately this is the case most of the time. People will walk all over the good guys and will not stop until they get scared. I know from experience.
@Floortjahh Well I have free will to be nice to people and it just so happens that the religion I believe in encourages just that. Religion is only bad when people take bad parts out of it or somehow try to misconstrue certain parts of it like Romans 13 which Hitler misconstrued for his own purposes.
@Cheapshot420420 I don't even know why he is trying to disprove the mudpuddle thing... what scientist has ever put that theory forward? He created the idea so he is arguing with himself
Creationists and ID proponents don't have a leg to stand on when they try to refute evolution as it is properly used in science...so they solve this problem by lying about what evolution is. This is called a straw man argument.
Creationists are a minority in Christianity. Christian merely means "follower of Christ." My favorite example of a Christian without nonsensical dogma is Thomas Jefferson, who actually arranged his own Bible (The Jefferson Bible) to do away with all the hogwash but keep all of Jesus' lessons about compassion.
@RobBrooksMusic No, but to believe that God did not create the earth in 7 days is to admit that the first few pages of the book of Genesis, the first book of the bible, is entirely fiction. Draw the conclusion from what you will.
@taiwanoob I conclude that if people blindly believe the part of the book that says jesus had supernatural powers, they should also believe the part that say god made the Earth in 7 days, and so christians (followers of jesus christ) should be creationists. If they don't, they aren't exhibiting "faith", as they call it.
The other conclusion is that IF creationists are a theological minority, statistics show that religious people are stupid... am I going wrong anywhere in my thinking here?
@RobBrooksMusic Precisely, you can't just reject part of the bible and accept only the good parts as true. That's like giving a person who scored 40% on an English test an A because "the other answers are right".
There is no hope for this world if people not only listen to this kind of crap american television, but actually believe and agree what he is saying!!! We need nothing more then a SILENT REVOLUTION to fix the world for future generations..
... Is there a plush of this "Ethel"? I would totally pay money for it.
Jokes aside, I remember when he had that show, "Win Ben Stein's Money". It's frightening how someone who was that intelligent could be so stupid as to take stock in Creationism and say things that are outright wrong.
@williamgivens yeah, they just didnt have a fucking clue what Evolution was. This is evident when stein said "did we originated from a lightning strike in a mud puddle?" the only people it would have eye opend would have been illiterates in Science.
Yeah...it raised the issue that documentaries can be full of blatant lies that can be exposed by a simple Google search and people will still believe them.
"What people had to say for themselves weren't lies"
I can easily prove that every person who was "expelled" as portrayed in the movie either distorted or blatantly lied about their situation. Scientific American did a short expose, but they softpedaled. ExpelledExposed goes through the entire movie and corrects all the lies with independent sources.
@TheZooCrew Yes, no one is perfect that's for sure. Anyway I was referring to Dawkins and co when I said "What an eye opener" The point here is academic freedom and not personal lives and Stein does a good and balance job at dragging the witch hunters into the light.
"The point here is academic freedom and not personal lives"
Which is precisely what I was addressing. There's no evidence of unwarranted persecution.
"Stein does a good and balance job at dragging the witch hunters into the light. "
No. He does a good job lying and distorting the world of science. Mark Mathis specifically chose ONLY a few well-known atheist biologists and totally ignored well-known Christian scientists who accept evolution ON PURPOSE.
What "witch hunters?" Dawkins, Myers and the rest were lied to about their own interviews. They were told they were being interviewed for a totally different movie and it was shown as soon as the movie came out that this was a deliberate deception. In addition, both suffered from heavy editing of their interviews and Dawkins was actually cut off mid-sentence at one point. The entire "documentary" was a sham that demonstrated nothing except Stein's lack of integrity.
@legion1a You are so mean! He so has a functional brain, why else are my eyes so clear after smoking a joint? (Sorry, I thought this was slightly funny..)
Ben Stein is a washed-up economist who does Visine commercials. Him making a documentary about evolution is akin to Kim Kardashian teaching a class on astrophysics.
I saw this movie and it has no evidence for Intelligent Design. It also tried to state that Nazism=Darwinism...whatever that is. The only lesson I for behavior I can find in the theory that explains observable evolution is to be tolerant for genetic diversity because its the only source of new information for your species. The more different people are, the wider the chance your species has to be adapted to your environment.
I agree on your points in this video toward ben stein, however, a good portion of your video is nothing more than a straw man argument toward his video...
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Stein is locked in by the brainwashing society has forced down his throat since birth. reminds me of a famous quote. “Every man is a creature of the age in which he lives, and few are able to raise themselves above the ideas of their time.” Voltaire
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1:46 Just earlier today someone mentioned "Darwinism" to me, and I made the same argument as you (except I said Pascalism and Bohrism)! What a coincidence!
I'm an atheist, but I'd convert so easily to Christianity if it really did believe the universe did begin when "an overweight, three-legged ardvark called Ethel did a little happy dance." That would be an awesome creation story.
This has to be a chain-yank. 'Evolution is lightning striking a mud puddle' is an order of magnitude funnier than even 'The internet is a series of tubes.' Until now, I didn't think Ben Stein was that good a comedian.
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Who ever made this video is the fool. All he can do is hyperventilate, call Ben Stein a fool, and provide false evidence as proof of evolution. Or perhaps he actually believes in Darwin's finches as proof of evolution. Darwin's finches do not prove macro evolution. Neither does DNA. In fact DNA presents an interesting proof of design. The proof was so compelling Crick even had to tell himself that it wasn't designed... but was it not designed? I can't imagine a more elegant information system.
What's this? A creationist who dismisses evidence out of hand for no reason, invents definitions, blatantly lies, and relies on unimportant, outdated arguments from authority?
I might have a heart attack and die from "not surprise."
@alanfujinami Elegant information system? In which one minor fluctuation causes huge consequences? Retardation and other handicaps? Can make you prone to disease? Yup, the "system" sure is "elegant".
You're right Alan. Evolution has no proof. No fossils. No evidence whatsoever. But you religious nut jobs have the most damning evidence... A MAN-MADE, MAN-WRITTEN BOOK THAT'S BE REWRITTEN AND TRANSLATED A THOUSAND TIMES OVER. Man, that sure is an end-all debate killer.
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@iz2sicc why are you so bitter against people with a different faith system than yours? As you yourself stated, you admittedly say that you lack proof. That should tell you that you yourself have a faith system. Is it really necessary to resort to name calling to prove your evolutionary superiority?
Bible was man-made. Archaeological findings prove that it was copied carefully for at least 1200 years. That is a pretty miraculous feat indeed. Archaeology also proves Bible's historical accuracy.
@alanfujinami Typical religious reply. Science does not require faith. It requires logic. Sure, there are many questions that science can answer with 100% certainty, but they can give you evidence for which their logic tells them the answer is. TANGIBLE evidence. The bible is much too vague along the same lines as fortune cookies. If your God is real, then he/she is a very ambiguous God. BTW, don't call me bitter when it is religious people who say I'll be damned in hell for my beliefs.
nothing proves the bibles historical accuracy, only eye witness reports from illiterate bronze age arabs. also, archeology has constantly disproven bible made claims.
@alanfujinami "As you yourself stated, you admittedly say that you lack proof" That was SARCASM!
"Archaeology also proves Bible's historical accuracy" Nope.
Archeology shows NO record of the Hebrews being in captivity in Egypt.
It shows that Jericho burned to the ground over 150 years BEFORE Joshua arrived. Google for d "Kathleen Kenyon", the archeologist who showed that the Bible story was WRONG.
Ezekiel 26 said Nebuchadnezzar would conquer Tyre - he didn't. So much for prophecy.
@alanfujinami "Who ever made this video is the fool." Wrong. He's a research scientist at an Ivy League university with a Phd in Biochemistry. He understands the theory of evolution, you don't. There is no difference between "macro" and "micro" evolution
DNA supports the TOE as do fossils, morphology, homogeneous retro viruses, predictions such as fusion of human chromosome #2, and a creature like Tiktaalik found in the geographic region AND the strata where theory said it should be found.
I hate to be a wet blanket, but I'm pretty sure Stein does understand those things. Or at the very least the promoters of his movie did. If he genuinely believed what he said he should jump at the chance to be interviewed on more critical, intelligent shows than Glen Beck. The fact that he doesnt means he has enough of an education to know the things he's saying are lies. F*** you Ben Stein, you f****** s***stain!
Proponents for Intelligent Design & the Kalam Cosmological Argument claim that their GOD was not designed? How can they know this with such self assurance? Apes like you and me, with access to all the same information, they've come to embarrassingly unsound specious conclusions. Based on the data one CAN'T know, infer, intuit, reason, or deduce as they have. The hubris! (complex things must have a designer, but our complex designer is un-designed) Let's have our cake and eat it too.
@mouthyweasel I just had to google the kalam cosmological argument and holy lol is that "god in the gap" getting mighty agrophobic in that one. "God made everything" "No natural causes did" "Ok god designed species" "Pans out evolution did" "God made the earth" "No that seems to have formed from gasseous clouds in the early solar formation "OK God created the universe then" *steven hawkins rolls onto the stage like an intellectual gangsta* "Doh!"
All that you say during these videos are so obvious to me that they don't even need any explanation. It comes from something called Common Sense. I can't believe how underdeveloped the the thinking facilities of some people must be in order to enable them to seriously believe in such a blistering bullshit like "A magical guy spitted out our world and needs us to kiss his ass constantly.". I admire your dedication at showing those things to people.
Dex1391 Your error is to assume that atheism can be converted to. We do not have churches or scripture. Atheism is simply a standpoint of reason over belief/faith. If you can't listen to what's being said on channels like this, then you're too dug in to your own belief. Why should I then waste my time trying to show you everything again?
lightning stiking a mud puddle is lightning producing compounds required for amino acids and DNA molecules to form in the primordial soup. Nothing to do with evolution but it is to do with the origin of life on earth. Another requirement is meteor strikes.
as you went throught the genetics bit i was so happy to recognise it from class :)
alexanderhulse 1 day ago
Does Ben Stein have a career now? This movie was a while back now, so what has he done since then?
Logic4Win 1 day ago
@Logic4Win Follow up; It seems that Stein has had a couple dozen engagements since, a few voice gigs for animated shows, and a scattering of guest speaking spots. Late Late Show and CBS seem to love Stein.
Logic4Win 1 day ago
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thenaimis 6 days ago
@thenaimis They have girls with bulging boobs. :D
aaqucnaona94 2 days ago
"No intelligence allowed". What's the inverse of an oxymoron?
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1:27 ...not really, I don't think. Even over a hundred years earlier, I think Leonardo used alchemy as an example of a generally recognized pseudoscience, didn't he? Newton himself believed in alchemy, but he was a little crazy.
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IoEstasCedonta 1 week ago
Ben Stein's collosal ignorance can't be blown out of the water, his head is too thick.
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4:51
lol...nicely put.
DIGITALSCREAMS 1 week ago
Mr T says.....
YOU FOOL!!!!
DIGITALSCREAMS 1 week ago
Also, I think there's something really important to be understood about creationist attempts to undermine the scientific method. I don't think they genuinely fail to understand it at all. Some of them are fairly intelligent people, it's just that they want the rest of us to completely disregard facts and accept the belief system that gives them the power to run our country. It's not about saving souls, it's about winning votes, and completely fucking the public education system in the process.
SpookyJohnathan 1 week ago 2
Gah, evolutionists are so retarded to believe that life originated with the singular event of lightning striking a mud puddle! Everyone knows it was God blowing into a handful of dirt!
SpookyJohnathan 1 week ago
Ben Stein is an utter retard.
TheAikenHead 2 weeks ago
I used to have respect for Ben Stein.
ciuacoatl 2 weeks ago
@ciuacoatl same here. At some point I realized his 'intelligence' just comes from memorized facts used in gameshows, not critical thinking.
Arcexey 1 week ago
If someone created a religion based on the teachings of Ethel the aardvark, I'd join in a heartbeat.
MewYuki23 2 weeks ago in playlist Why Do People Laugh At Creationists?
Creationists say that elements can not create other elements. We say. THE SUN!!! and here is the exact reason why. The Atomic bomb! Here is exactly why. A Dying star!! Here is exactly why. "Ya but where's the evidence"? The Nuclear power plant where you get your electricity from. Here's how. Here's 50 books on it. Here's 50 videos. Ya but where's the evidence? Ever hear of Hubble or Apollo missions. You can see what the Universe looked like 13.7 billion years ago. Ya but....God did it. Absolute
paramattic70 3 weeks ago
Its pointless arguing. Creationists and theists ask for proof. It is given in abundance. They say but where's the evidence? We give more. They say, but where's the evidence? Their Brains are underdeveloped and physically can't process data. If you see all the advances in the world as a whole, all the technology, and still won't even entertain the idea? Pathetic.
paramattic70 3 weeks ago
Ben Stein is an egregious liar and one of the most willfully ignorant people I've ever seen.
mikefromwa 3 weeks ago
The clip at 2:19 is from one of my favorite education videos about DNA. It was very entertaining to watch.
UnfinishedRiot 1 month ago
religion is a dirty word
BandWagon1987 1 month ago
"The only difference between a cult and a major religion is the amount of real estate they own."
--Frank Zappa
Cootabux 1 month ago 2
ethl the aardvark. what a boss
TheCanadianJam 1 month ago
The sad thing is, this guy and his creationist supporters have no idea of the chemicals or processes you outline. It's all big fancy words that go over their heads..
MothIncarnate 1 month ago 2
An excellent video!
padajajde 1 month ago
Kent Hovind is in jail because he was trying to warn the world that their is a dark agenda out there that aims at destroying the morality of every man woman and child making them into beasts. In fact Darwinism states that we evolved from mere beasts. God says you should hold your head up because you have been given free will by an all powerful all wise and all loving Creator. Jesus answered "Woe to them who worship the Created (Monkeys/Primates) rather then the Creator."
JamesRideout123 1 month ago
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@JamesRideout123 > In fact Darwinism states that we evolved from mere beasts.
1. There's no such thing (in science) as "Darwinism.
2. We evolved from the most primitive forms of life.
3. ... and all loving Creator
Right. The same one that slaughtered men, women and children by the thousands.
csmcmillion 1 month ago
@csmcmillion Evolution, and indeed not Darwinism or Evolutionism, does not expain the origin of life, it explains the diversity of life (hence the name of the book: the origin of spieces).
And yeah, God loves slaughtering...
Floortjahh 1 month ago
@Floortjahh Yes, I know. My statement "We evolved from the most primitive forms of life" reflects only the fact that we are simply colonies of single cells.
csmcmillion 1 month ago
@JamesRideout123 No, Hovind is in jail for tax fraud. Even a brief look at Wiki could have taught you that
21quandary 1 month ago
@JamesRideout123 Lol at: have been given free will. It's a contradicting phrase
Floortjahh 1 month ago in playlist Why do people laugh at creationists?
@Floortjahh We have free will there is nothing contradicting about it.
JamesRideout123 1 month ago
@JamesRideout123 if free will has been given to you, you really didn't have a say in it, did you? It is therefore a contradicting statement.
Floortjahh 1 month ago
@Floortjahh That is just stupid. Free will means Free will which means the freedom to do whatever you want regardless of where it came from. Why would you want a say in having free will? Would you rather Authoritarianism?
JamesRideout123 1 month ago
@JamesRideout123 by calling it stupid without any arguements you're only making my case more.
But let's think about this for a second. If you are religious, do you really have free will?
Floortjahh 1 month ago
@Floortjahh Well I have free will to be nice to people and it just so happens that the religion I believe in encourages just that. Religion is only bad when people take bad parts out of it or somehow try to misconstrue certain parts of it like Romans 13 which Hitler misconstrued for his own purposes.
JamesRideout123 1 month ago
@JamesRideout123 But then, you are nice because you are led by the commandments. You are nice because you want to get into heaven and not go to hell. You get your morality from God. So how can this be free will? You act that way because God commands it. Because if you don't you go to hell.
How can this be free will? Isn't it much more admirable to be moral on your own? Out of free will? Without fear of eternal damnation?
Floortjahh 1 month ago
@Floortjahh Point taken but the fact of the matter is if it wasn't for this I highly doubt there would be many people who would be nice to people and even fewer who would adhere to the rule of law if it wasn't for fear of God and his judgments. I would hate to say that people in the end can only be ruled by fear like animals but unfortunately this is the case most of the time. People will walk all over the good guys and will not stop until they get scared. I know from experience.
JamesRideout123 1 month ago
@JamesRideout123 There are people all over the world who do not believe in God and are prefectly able to do good. In fact, a civilization would not be able to survive if everyone went pludering and killing everyone else. It makes perfect sense to think that humans as a highly social species would have evolved to be nice to each other, otherwise that civiliztion would not have been able to survive. Especially in small communities, where the people around you were probably members of your family
Floortjahh 1 month ago
@JamesRideout123 on the other hand, is it not true that people, thinking they have God on their side, will do wicked and evil things? Things a normal person would not think of doing?
The famous Hitchens challenge:
Name an ethical or moral statement made or action performed by a believer in the name of faith that could not have been by an infidel.
Name a wicked action that could only have been performed by a person of faith.
Floortjahh 1 month ago
@JamesRideout123 You believe animals "only be ruled by fear"? Disturbing.
TheNaughtypine 3 weeks ago
@TheNaughtypine In a severe situation, for example if you were surrounded by wolves and all you had was a rifle or a gun you would fire the rifle or gun and the wolves would flee. Why is that? Because fear has taken over them. In that situation you would control it by fear. Running out and trying to hug the wolves isn't going to help you and when you look at the mob mentality of the US the same rules apply. People who act like animals deserve to be treated like them.
JamesRideout123 3 weeks ago
@Floortjahh Point taken but the fact of the matter is if it wasn't for this I highly doubt there would be many people who would be nice to people and even fewer who would adhere to the rule of law if it wasn't for fear of God and his judgments. I would hate to say that people in the end can only be ruled by fear like animals but unfortunately this is the case most of the time. People will walk all over the good guys and will not stop until they get scared. I know from experience.
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@Floortjahh Point taken but the fact of the matter is if it wasn't for this I highly doubt there would be many people who would be nice to people and even fewer who would adhere to the rule of law if it wasn't for fear of God and his judgments. I would hate to say that people in the end can only be ruled by fear like animals but unfortunately this is the case most of the time. People will walk all over the good guys and will not stop until they get scared. I know from experience.
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@Floortjahh Well I have free will to be nice to people and it just so happens that the religion I believe in encourages just that. Religion is only bad when people take bad parts out of it or somehow try to misconstrue certain parts of it like Romans 13 which Hitler misconstrued for his own purposes.
JamesRideout123 1 month ago
Stein is at Benstein99@aol.com
csmcmillion 1 month ago
@csmcmillion how did you find this?
MoralRapist 1 month ago
@MoralRapist What - Stein's address? It's on his website.
csmcmillion 1 month ago
All hail Ethel
DamienBlade 1 month ago in playlist Why do people laugh at creationists?
Gotta love Fox News...News for the uniintelligent....
MeanKno 1 month ago 26
What's cool poster at 2:05?
JonathanDP81 1 month ago
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A HEARING? I would think a Yale la graduate would know that Dover was a full-blown TRIAL, and the DECISION stated that ID is not science.
csmcmillion 1 month ago
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Conservative Christian Logic: /watch?v=UDBYGXWMAOw
csmcmillion 1 month ago
ben stein is an asshat.
MoralRapist 2 months ago
calling him a fool does not make away that he's right.
GekkeMalloot 2 months ago
lightning striking a mud puddle is more believable than some magic man blinking life into existence.
Cheapshot420420 2 months ago 14
@Cheapshot420420 I don't even know why he is trying to disprove the mudpuddle thing... what scientist has ever put that theory forward? He created the idea so he is arguing with himself
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Creationists and ID proponents don't have a leg to stand on when they try to refute evolution as it is properly used in science...so they solve this problem by lying about what evolution is. This is called a straw man argument.
TheZooCrew 2 months ago
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RobBrooksMusic 2 months ago
@TheZooCrew Are all Christians Creationists? Because to be a Christian you have to think God make the Earth in 7 days right?
RobBrooksMusic 2 months ago
@RobBrooksMusic
No.
Creationists are a minority in Christianity. Christian merely means "follower of Christ." My favorite example of a Christian without nonsensical dogma is Thomas Jefferson, who actually arranged his own Bible (The Jefferson Bible) to do away with all the hogwash but keep all of Jesus' lessons about compassion.
TheZooCrew 2 months ago
@RobBrooksMusic No, but to believe that God did not create the earth in 7 days is to admit that the first few pages of the book of Genesis, the first book of the bible, is entirely fiction. Draw the conclusion from what you will.
taiwanoob 2 months ago
@taiwanoob I conclude that if people blindly believe the part of the book that says jesus had supernatural powers, they should also believe the part that say god made the Earth in 7 days, and so christians (followers of jesus christ) should be creationists. If they don't, they aren't exhibiting "faith", as they call it.
The other conclusion is that IF creationists are a theological minority, statistics show that religious people are stupid... am I going wrong anywhere in my thinking here?
RobBrooksMusic 2 months ago
@RobBrooksMusic Precisely, you can't just reject part of the bible and accept only the good parts as true. That's like giving a person who scored 40% on an English test an A because "the other answers are right".
taiwanoob 2 months ago
There is no hope for this world if people not only listen to this kind of crap american television, but actually believe and agree what he is saying!!! We need nothing more then a SILENT REVOLUTION to fix the world for future generations..
timdnwd 3 months ago
Woot Ethel the Aadvark! Respect to the Thunderf00t's Monty Python knowledge!
Uberlaser 3 months ago
Creationists deserve to be persecuted. They are holding the species back with their weak minds. Survival of the fittest, baby.
DaemonAnt 3 months ago
@williamgivens If they weren't serious, why did they make a documentary? to even open up with that is stupid let alone to an evolutionist.
Danyman258 3 months ago
I remember learning about Darwin's Finches in middle school. Fucking middle school. How is it Stein never heard of them?
KajexFiredrake 3 months ago in playlist KajexFiredrake's favorites
... Is there a plush of this "Ethel"? I would totally pay money for it.
Jokes aside, I remember when he had that show, "Win Ben Stein's Money". It's frightening how someone who was that intelligent could be so stupid as to take stock in Creationism and say things that are outright wrong.
KajexFiredrake 3 months ago in playlist Why do people laugh at creationists?
@williamgivens yeah, they just didnt have a fucking clue what Evolution was. This is evident when stein said "did we originated from a lightning strike in a mud puddle?" the only people it would have eye opend would have been illiterates in Science.
Danyman258 3 months ago
@Danyman258 If you believe they were completely serious - then you would believe anything !
williamgivens 3 months ago
Stein's movie raised some good issues. Live with it.
williamgivens 3 months ago
@williamgivens
Yeah...it raised the issue that documentaries can be full of blatant lies that can be exposed by a simple Google search and people will still believe them.
TheZooCrew 3 months ago
@TheZooCrew What people had to say for themselves weren't lies - and a real eye opener to most people.
williamgivens 3 months ago
@williamgivens
"What people had to say for themselves weren't lies"
I can easily prove that every person who was "expelled" as portrayed in the movie either distorted or blatantly lied about their situation. Scientific American did a short expose, but they softpedaled. ExpelledExposed goes through the entire movie and corrects all the lies with independent sources.
TheZooCrew 3 months ago
@TheZooCrew Yes, no one is perfect that's for sure. Anyway I was referring to Dawkins and co when I said "What an eye opener" The point here is academic freedom and not personal lives and Stein does a good and balance job at dragging the witch hunters into the light.
williamgivens 3 months ago
@williamgivens
"The point here is academic freedom and not personal lives"
Which is precisely what I was addressing. There's no evidence of unwarranted persecution.
"Stein does a good and balance job at dragging the witch hunters into the light. "
No. He does a good job lying and distorting the world of science. Mark Mathis specifically chose ONLY a few well-known atheist biologists and totally ignored well-known Christian scientists who accept evolution ON PURPOSE.
TheZooCrew 3 months ago
@williamgivens
What "witch hunters?" Dawkins, Myers and the rest were lied to about their own interviews. They were told they were being interviewed for a totally different movie and it was shown as soon as the movie came out that this was a deliberate deception. In addition, both suffered from heavy editing of their interviews and Dawkins was actually cut off mid-sentence at one point. The entire "documentary" was a sham that demonstrated nothing except Stein's lack of integrity.
TheZooCrew 3 months ago
@williamgivens
I actually question whether you can actually read English, seeing as your entire comment was a non sequitur in response to my post.
TheZooCrew 3 months ago
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Thunderf00t's frustration and disgust are palpable. Anyone who has ever tried to reason with a creationist has been there and can relate.
88rat88 3 months ago
Until Ben Stein did that f**king video I actually had a bit of respect for him.
kmikl 3 months ago in playlist Why do people laugh at creationists? 5
At the beginning of the video i thought he was talking about creationists.
frankite316 4 months ago
This is great, is there any way to get this as a downloadable whole?
johnmbowen 4 months ago
YOU FOOL!
chrism4n14 4 months ago 52
No one with a functional brain can possibly believe in creation.
It has been disproven by real science.
I think that he really doesn't believe what he is saying, it is impossible that anyone who can read would be that stupid.
I think the reason he is saying what he is saying is to keep people talking about him.
He subscribes to the “Let them talk bad about you, just so they are talking about you” theory.
He just tries to stay in the public eye.
You are giving him the attention he craves.
legion1a 4 months ago 26
@legion1a You are so mean! He so has a functional brain, why else are my eyes so clear after smoking a joint? (Sorry, I thought this was slightly funny..)
b33p3rz 4 months ago in playlist More videos from Thunderf00t
@b33p3rz
You ask how Ben Steins eyes can be so clear after smoking a joint.
He does the VISINE Eye Drops commercials.
I'm sure they give him free samples.
(It was more than slightly funny)
legion1a 4 months ago
@legion1a Lol that was what I was joking about but I meant me haha
b33p3rz 4 months ago
@legion1a I DO believe this man is that stupid... many people just WANT to believe what they want... he doesn't have room in his head for the truth
Soetman 1 month ago
"Faradayism"
:)
ToASmallerScale 4 months ago
@ToASmallerScale Am I the only one who broke out with, "Day-oh!! Day-ay-oh! Faraday come and I wanna go home"?
NonnyMus1 4 months ago
I pitty the fool!
FreakmundZoid 4 months ago in playlist Why do people laugh at creationists?
I don't understand why people fight evolution... it is blatantly obvious that it exists. The irony is, religions evolve.
bharper2011 4 months ago in playlist Why do people laugh at creationists - Thunderf00t
Ben Stein is a washed-up economist who does Visine commercials. Him making a documentary about evolution is akin to Kim Kardashian teaching a class on astrophysics.
Faustaao 5 months ago 2
Why on earth did Ben Stein get media attention in the first place?
TuX1fIed 5 months ago
I saw this movie and it has no evidence for Intelligent Design. It also tried to state that Nazism=Darwinism...whatever that is. The only lesson I for behavior I can find in the theory that explains observable evolution is to be tolerant for genetic diversity because its the only source of new information for your species. The more different people are, the wider the chance your species has to be adapted to your environment.
BTW, Ben Stein is an economist and lawyer.
kirbiliusclausius 5 months ago
I agree on your points in this video toward ben stein, however, a good portion of your video is nothing more than a straw man argument toward his video...
wolftone1916 5 months ago
@wolftone1916 Do you see how many videos there are in this series? He made his point long ago.
84warhead 4 months ago
"You Fool! And double damn fool!" Lol
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Teaching creationism as something that is true in biology class is like saying magic pixies create electricity in physics class.
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TheServiceWeb 5 months ago
Stein is locked in by the brainwashing society has forced down his throat since birth. reminds me of a famous quote. “Every man is a creature of the age in which he lives, and few are able to raise themselves above the ideas of their time.” Voltaire
nashkita77 5 months ago
the sun ISN'T pulled across the sky by fire horses? why do you hate my religion?
n8lay 5 months ago in playlist Why do people laugh at creationists? 2
Can anyone imagine if every professor in the world was Ben Stein?
trueChaos23 5 months ago
@Thunderf00t, can you PLEASE message me your phone number? Im going to NY in a couple weeks and I need a mobile shoutout incase I catch the Cash Cab lol
shadyx302x 5 months ago 2
Richard Dawkins is a sex maniac!
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an overweight, three-legged ardvark called Ethel did a little happy dance where do you get this! :P
AlexRaveloTV 5 months ago
YOU FOOL
AlexRaveloTV 5 months ago
Day 20: A child who I was supervising pointed a stick at a spider dangling off a tree and shouted AVADA KEDAVRA (with a cute little kid Quebec accent).
The spider fell to the ground a second after.
I stared at him and he stared at me. Neither of us said anything. He then started raising the same stick at me.
I ran for my life.
AlexRaveloTV 5 months ago
@AlexRaveloTV haha! i cant tell if that was a joke or not-either way it was funny.if it was a joke props to you mate
werewolf873 5 months ago
@werewolf873 XD
AlexRaveloTV 5 months ago
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TheServiceWeb 6 months ago
ben stein is a schmuck
StevieDisopolis 6 months ago 2
1:46 Just earlier today someone mentioned "Darwinism" to me, and I made the same argument as you (except I said Pascalism and Bohrism)! What a coincidence!
hmmmwhatsnext 6 months ago
I'm an atheist, but I'd convert so easily to Christianity if it really did believe the universe did begin when "an overweight, three-legged ardvark called Ethel did a little happy dance." That would be an awesome creation story.
TheMessiersAndromeda 6 months ago 73
@TheMessiersAndromeda
And, it would be more logically coherent than the bible.
96rorrim 5 months ago
@96rorrim
Very true.
TheMessiersAndromeda 5 months ago
@TheMessiersAndromeda and it would make a little more sense.
MoralRapist 2 months ago
This has to be a chain-yank. 'Evolution is lightning striking a mud puddle' is an order of magnitude funnier than even 'The internet is a series of tubes.' Until now, I didn't think Ben Stein was that good a comedian.
torch2k 6 months ago
Science has proof without any certainty. Creationists have certainty without any proof.
CircusOfBedlam 6 months ago
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Who ever made this video is the fool. All he can do is hyperventilate, call Ben Stein a fool, and provide false evidence as proof of evolution. Or perhaps he actually believes in Darwin's finches as proof of evolution. Darwin's finches do not prove macro evolution. Neither does DNA. In fact DNA presents an interesting proof of design. The proof was so compelling Crick even had to tell himself that it wasn't designed... but was it not designed? I can't imagine a more elegant information system.
alanfujinami 6 months ago
@alanfujinami
What's this? A creationist who dismisses evidence out of hand for no reason, invents definitions, blatantly lies, and relies on unimportant, outdated arguments from authority?
I might have a heart attack and die from "not surprise."
TheZooCrew 6 months ago 42
@alanfujinami Elegant information system? In which one minor fluctuation causes huge consequences? Retardation and other handicaps? Can make you prone to disease? Yup, the "system" sure is "elegant".
You're right Alan. Evolution has no proof. No fossils. No evidence whatsoever. But you religious nut jobs have the most damning evidence... A MAN-MADE, MAN-WRITTEN BOOK THAT'S BE REWRITTEN AND TRANSLATED A THOUSAND TIMES OVER. Man, that sure is an end-all debate killer.
iz2sicc 6 months ago in playlist Atheist/heretic 8
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@iz2sicc why are you so bitter against people with a different faith system than yours? As you yourself stated, you admittedly say that you lack proof. That should tell you that you yourself have a faith system. Is it really necessary to resort to name calling to prove your evolutionary superiority?
Bible was man-made. Archaeological findings prove that it was copied carefully for at least 1200 years. That is a pretty miraculous feat indeed. Archaeology also proves Bible's historical accuracy.
alanfujinami 6 months ago
@alanfujinami Typical religious reply. Science does not require faith. It requires logic. Sure, there are many questions that science can answer with 100% certainty, but they can give you evidence for which their logic tells them the answer is. TANGIBLE evidence. The bible is much too vague along the same lines as fortune cookies. If your God is real, then he/she is a very ambiguous God. BTW, don't call me bitter when it is religious people who say I'll be damned in hell for my beliefs.
iz2sicc 6 months ago 5
@alanfujinami "Historical accuracy" hahaha
itchygonads 6 months ago 2
@alanfujinami
nothing proves the bibles historical accuracy, only eye witness reports from illiterate bronze age arabs. also, archeology has constantly disproven bible made claims.
skormz10 6 months ago 4
@alanfujinami "As you yourself stated, you admittedly say that you lack proof" That was SARCASM!
"Archaeology also proves Bible's historical accuracy" Nope.
Archeology shows NO record of the Hebrews being in captivity in Egypt.
It shows that Jericho burned to the ground over 150 years BEFORE Joshua arrived. Google for d "Kathleen Kenyon", the archeologist who showed that the Bible story was WRONG.
Ezekiel 26 said Nebuchadnezzar would conquer Tyre - he didn't. So much for prophecy.
AlanCFA 5 months ago 2
@alanfujinami "Who ever made this video is the fool." Wrong. He's a research scientist at an Ivy League university with a Phd in Biochemistry. He understands the theory of evolution, you don't. There is no difference between "macro" and "micro" evolution
DNA supports the TOE as do fossils, morphology, homogeneous retro viruses, predictions such as fusion of human chromosome #2, and a creature like Tiktaalik found in the geographic region AND the strata where theory said it should be found.
AlanCFA 5 months ago
you insult burger flippers... now the won't make more cheesburguers :(
klakiti02 6 months ago
Ppl can't b that dumb. I'm calling shamans on this one.
jackh0lesTV 6 months ago
you fool!
MeepullStewray 6 months ago in playlist Why do people laugh at creationists?
"you fool"
TheYllus 6 months ago in playlist Why do people laugh at creationists?
I find that rubbing a rabbits foot is far more reliable than prayer. But this is expected since rabbits are real.
scotttebben 6 months ago 2
I hate to be a wet blanket, but I'm pretty sure Stein does understand those things. Or at the very least the promoters of his movie did. If he genuinely believed what he said he should jump at the chance to be interviewed on more critical, intelligent shows than Glen Beck. The fact that he doesnt means he has enough of an education to know the things he's saying are lies. F*** you Ben Stein, you f****** s***stain!
htomerif 6 months ago
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mouthyweasel 6 months ago
Proponents for Intelligent Design & the Kalam Cosmological Argument claim that their GOD was not designed? How can they know this with such self assurance? Apes like you and me, with access to all the same information, they've come to embarrassingly unsound specious conclusions. Based on the data one CAN'T know, infer, intuit, reason, or deduce as they have. The hubris! (complex things must have a designer, but our complex designer is un-designed) Let's have our cake and eat it too.
mouthyweasel 6 months ago
@mouthyweasel
It's a special pleading fallacy in spades.
It's all dogma, which is why they systematically reject evidence they don't like.
TheZooCrew 6 months ago
@TheZooCrew agreed.
mouthyweasel 6 months ago
@mouthyweasel I just had to google the kalam cosmological argument and holy lol is that "god in the gap" getting mighty agrophobic in that one. "God made everything" "No natural causes did" "Ok god designed species" "Pans out evolution did" "God made the earth" "No that seems to have formed from gasseous clouds in the early solar formation "OK God created the universe then" *steven hawkins rolls onto the stage like an intellectual gangsta* "Doh!"
MrShayneOneill 6 months ago
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mouthyweasel 6 months ago
Ben Stein: Born from lightning striking a mud puddle.
zombieman841 6 months ago
All that you say during these videos are so obvious to me that they don't even need any explanation. It comes from something called Common Sense. I can't believe how underdeveloped the the thinking facilities of some people must be in order to enable them to seriously believe in such a blistering bullshit like "A magical guy spitted out our world and needs us to kiss his ass constantly.". I admire your dedication at showing those things to people.
ergius1988 6 months ago in playlist Why do people laugh at creationists?
Ethel the Aardvark goes quantity surveying. Great book.
TXiCN 6 months ago
I can feel your contempt in every word that you uter ! And I'm ashamed to say that was a compliment. Love your videos, keep it up.
assalane 6 months ago in playlist Why do people laugh at creationists?
God damned fucking insane shit hole cult savages!
NotSoOldHippy 6 months ago
Relativity was first established by Galileo, no? Einstein did Special and General relativity...
lostfanvanjellies22 7 months ago
@lostfanvanjellies22 yeah, I think I heard that on QI
JasonNerdbane 5 months ago
nevermind, i spoke to soon, the guys name was mentioned
helloman767 7 months ago
who is the guy in the begining , i recall seeing him in some movies, isn't he an actor
helloman767 7 months ago
um darwins finches is an adaptation, not evolution, you fool.
22yankev 7 months ago
@22yankev Not sure if trolling...
Or just very stupid.
slayerofcereal 5 months ago
Thunderf00t keeping his pimp hand strong.
SuperJasontheman 7 months ago
Is there a way to get this in it entirety?
m80kamikaze 7 months ago
Forget the Atheist vs. Theist debate. We still have to battle the Science vs. Bullshit debate!!! (Naturally those two run together)
ahhhhjjjj 7 months ago
Watching Thunderf00t while eating ben and jerry's ice cream is the best
WAZZA1235 7 months ago
Dex1391 Your error is to assume that atheism can be converted to. We do not have churches or scripture. Atheism is simply a standpoint of reason over belief/faith. If you can't listen to what's being said on channels like this, then you're too dug in to your own belief. Why should I then waste my time trying to show you everything again?
ReddyTuRole420 7 months ago
Thunderf00t, you're awesome. I'm glad that someone's in the public/internet debunking the jaded creationist statements and people out there!
MOUTHROTTY 7 months ago
Documentary or DUNGumentary ?
xcellken1 7 months ago
at 4:46 isn't it possible that a burger flipper has taken the job because grad school is expensive?
aj19bcx 7 months ago in playlist Why do people laugh at creationists?
I think that Ben Stein has lost a few tiles on re-entry.
MrJIMMY3009 7 months ago
Ben Stein is a stupid fool. Disgusting ignorant individual.
MrJIMMY3009 7 months ago
that univerisity quote from Stein beggard belief, a fucking creationist saying universities spout nonsense?
EmeraldIsleStar 7 months ago 2
I pity that fool
canesrule96 7 months ago
It's fun listening to this guy "blow them out of the water," but the next person who says "You fool!" is getting a boot up their ass.
HimesInu 7 months ago in playlist Why do people laugh at creationists?
lightning stiking a mud puddle is lightning producing compounds required for amino acids and DNA molecules to form in the primordial soup. Nothing to do with evolution but it is to do with the origin of life on earth. Another requirement is meteor strikes.
jony1710 7 months ago
wow y is this guy so smart im sooo jealous
findalyo5 7 months ago
dayum hes killen em...go evolution guy
thatbboyAli 7 months ago
I hope Ben Stein sees this video
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