While the now have a woodland ATACS, they probably didn't at the time.I haven't seen the woodland variant in action. I think multicam is better for more areas. Your yahoo friend in multicam should just get a set in that multicam because that white just sticks out like a sore thumb. In your area, I might suggest the canadian CAPDAT or russian KLMK since everything is so blasted green there.
@lustercowx That's my brother, not my 'yahoo friend'. The kit he was wearing there was all mine that he wore for the video, and that UBACS just happened to be the only MC upper clothing piece I owned at the time, it would also generally be worn with some kind of LBE covering up the tan coloured centre portion. I have howeversince bought a SORD traditional style shirt to fill the gap.
A-Tacs was designed for Urban warfare,street fights,iraq,afganisthan..In england or in the UK the urbanistic picture is quite diferent than in the rest of the world,less beton or panel made buildings around,so i don't think that the A-Tacs is good choice for british military use..But the multi cam pattern or MTP is good choice in many points..I'm a former spec force member and i have a quite huge collection of these uniforms..Do you guys have a club,i'm near london and still looking for one
Why compare apples to oranges? ATACS was originally designed for some rural-urban applications, foothills, scrub-brushes, etc. (*see Iraq/Afghanistan). You're in a woodland environment, comparing a mountain/desert pattern to a woodland pattern? ATACS has displayed both an urban and a woodland pattern. Why not compare woodland vs. woodland?
@VastFlux ATACS-FG isn't even out right now, how would I have gotten hold of it in June last year? The point was to help out a few mates who were interested in the patterns, that's all. Most of England looks the terrain in the video, they wanted to see how well the available ATACS would (or indeed wouldn't) blend in in this country.
@CKinnerley My bad, my brother. I didn't see that you did this test nearly a year ago.
You can get the ATACS woodland right now if you're tied to the right people. I've got sniper veil material of the stuff and some samples. What I should've said was to use the ATACS in some "scrubby brush/hillside---and THEN compare it to Multicam." I was just remarking on the overall notion of putting a scrub camo like ATACS into a foliage type environment.
@VastFlux No I get what you're saying, that's fine. Like I say though, had a lot of guys who wanted to use this stuff in the woods asking the question, so I made the video to show them what it would be like.
@CKinnerley Agreed. Scrub ATACS is clearly inferior to Multicam in the green foliage. Foliage ATACS is nice, bro. You need to try it! I would definitely choose the foliage ATACS of Multicam, for certain.
I don't believe this comparison or the other videos alike are fair for A-TACS. A-TACS recently came out with their foliage version. All these vidoes that are out their are comparing a camo thats made for desert and urban environement to mulitcam in a foliage effectiveness scheme.
Do you know when the FG A-tacs are coming to the markets?
How much approximately they will cost?
I was looking at getting a set of A-TACS, As I just LOVE the pattern.
But in a more realistic sense of mind, I feel Multi-cam would work much better in the environment i use. A mixture of light and dense woodland, aswell as open fresh/dry grass areas. Mostly green. some brown, and a little tan on the open parts etc
@mr0awsome0 I'd go with MC if I were in your shoes. It's not really 'perfect' against any background, but it's definitely the most versatile pattern out there, works well against a massive range of environment types.
@THEKINGOFMETROPOLIS I can't really own much myself, but luckily my employer does have plenty that they let me have a go on, just now and again you know. Can't go too far wrong with a good, full auto 5.56.
@CKinnerley Nice dude. You sound like the luckiest dude in England if you get to shoot full auto weapons. I can't even do that. Gotta ask though. Would an ATAC combat jacket work well with maybe a Multi-cam plate carrier?
@THEKINGOFMETROPOLIS Heh, well me and the other 180k-odd people that are in the british armed forces yeah. Can't say I've tried A-TACS with multicam yet though I've seen a lot of people ask, I reckon it would look alright though.
@CKinnerley are you talking about the L85 great gun but i like the Bushmaster ACR im an american in california any gun besides any explosive or full auto
@skate4ever214 Correct, the L85A2 is the only weapon I actually shoot, but that's just the nature of the job. On the plus side it has full auto which I've used on quite a few occasions, and I actually work with explosives all day in my 8-5.
@mr0awsome0 ACU is the successor of the BDU and DCU. the ACU is an upgraded pattern to blend into almost every environment. the U.S. Army uses the ACU while countries like Bolivia or Iraq uses the BDU.
@mr0awsome0 yeah a BDU is a type of uniform. technically ACU is as well but the camo is so synonymous with the uniform that everyone just calls it that. the camo is technically called UCP (universal camouflage pattern).
If you like the ATACS pattern but you are more in the forested environment, get FB ATACS, its about to be out. But for an overall pattern, MC rules above all else in my opinion. That, or XCAMO.
Multicam. A-TACS isn't bad but it lacks some colors for that environment. Multicam works almost everywhere. It's not perfect but true camouflage is environment specific.
I'm seriously considering maybe picking up some A-tacs. I live in Canada, and though I LOVE CADPAT, it quite simply doesn't work in the early spring/fall. I've considered the arid marpat, but it's just too light for my area. A-Tacs is much darker, and the coloration is almost perfect, even the lighter whiteish would blend well with the poplar trees.
@GLOCK22BYITCH Ignorant morons who are still living in the 18th century when spouting such utterly cunting stupid retarded bullshit was actually acceptable... DIE
@GLOCK22BYITCH Holy fuck, the sheer level of uber-stupidity you exhibit is absolutely breath taking, I have never in my life witnessed a cunt of such epic proportions, you can't even manage to produce a video that's the correct way up and you go around the place trolling like a twat? Holy titty fucking christ you're dense beyond belief, the fact you live across the atlantic ocean from me and thought it would somehow be a good idea to make your last comment is a testament to your idiocy, fuck...
i hope the below statements are taken seriously and not pounded by immature rants and arguments. This is a topic that must not be uprooted and soiled by purely unscientific opinion and childish arguments that cannot support anything. I'm not normally one to get caught up in a youtube debate, but I am interested in it and I don't want it ruined, like many other debates, by three year olds spamming about "MULTICAM SUCKS" or "A TACS IS @#%* ON CLOTHING". I'd like this debate to be handled maturely.
neither is better, but when the green version of a tacs comes out, all bets are on the a tacs because it is the next stage in camouflage technology. first was the drab and dull colors, then the blotch patterns we came to love, then it evolved into digital patterns. multicam will probably be one of the last of the blotch camouflages as camo tech evolves from digital to organic digital (a tacs). the only way to make sure is a thorough scientific experiment, posted unaltered on youtube.
I'd assume that a tacs works where there is either an absence of green or in heavily wooded areas. Multicam would probably work anywhere where there's a patch of green, but not in jungles or lush places where the hue of green is different. a tacs might work in a tundra, but neither would do well in a snowy environment. the makers of a tacs are coming out with a green version due to popular demand. for now, multicam and a tacs are companion camouflages that compensate for the others weakness.
The A-TACS just doesn't have enough green to successfully conceal an individual in a forested environment. that's why Multicam made it to the army. also as respectfully as i can say this, just play airsoft and stay away from reviewing camouflage. black boots and your trying to be camoflaged? nice Crye gear though. get a plate carrier or a field jacket you don't need a combat shirt. Arc'teryx makes a better combat shirt if you want a light shirt with full camo.
@n0tmlg You can't camouflage yourself in the woods in black boots? You must be doing something really wrong, because when I did my basic training I saw an awful lot of people manage to disappear in to the undergrowth wearing DPM and black boots, all it takes is the right application of cam cream and foliage.
As for do I 'need' a UBACS? Well no, but I find it a hell of a lot more comfortable under a PC/Chest Rig when I'm running around in the summer, so I'll use what I like, thank you.
ive seen photos of hthe a-tacs in use in afghanistan and the soldiers wer resting on a side of a mountain and it blended and distorted there figure very well.
@Bluedotism Funnily enough, I am aware of the point of a UBACS. I didn't own a multicam PC/Vest of any kind at the time, so there was nothing to be done about it.
That dude pulled a sweet move at the beginning trying to make his arm blend in with the grass. Didn't quite work but it looked like a Napoleon Dynamite dance move :)
You should have used some more distance in the shots for the comparison. I live in a concrete jungle so A-tacs is my choice. I have also tested multicam in urban areas its not bad but its not good either.
@Scharfschutze1972 clearly you do not understand the concept of sarcasm. It's funny because most people with an elementary level of education know that there is of course, no deserts in England. Also I would advise spelling the word 'moron' correctly, before trying to insult someone with it.
@fenderguitarist05 if i ever offended you im sorry i thought MORON was a how to say it light insult, but i can clearly see your reaction, be tolerant your sense of humor SUCKS and the English should have lots of it,....both camouflages sucks, check your fellow countryman Pencott of Hydedefinition,....and by the way i am Argentinian you islander......
Very informative indeed, i like the way you compare the patterns in different environments, this gives the audience a better grasp of how the patterns react in different environments.
MARPAT-CADPAT-DPM-FLECK-US WOODLAND would work better than even Multicam in your neck of the woods. The ATAC camo looks like shit. I can see it blending in with desert and nothing else
@1lostinspace Which is precisely why I own temperate MARPAT, DPM and Flecktarn and US woodland, as well as various OD BDUs. As I say in the video, I did the comparison because the question was being asked in various places, but the only kind of landscape I've got anywhere near around me is, unfortunately, green.
@1lostinspace Yeah in that hue but there is supposed to be different hues of the ATACS pattern out likely something with alittle more green to it to work with woodland.
@TheJasonDR Wow.. now that is just amazingly original. I mean, I've just never seen anyone use the term 'gay' in an attempt to describe something in a negative fashion before. Do you write your own material? Because that is some cutting edge stuff right there, just so fresh, really never heard anyone use that word to do that before. Really great job man, love it.
Issues with the UBACS aside, this is a good field comparison, so thanks. I think they both did pretty well in all the environments, although neither was great anywhere (like proper multi-terrain camoflages are meant to be). A-TACS wasn't so good in the woods, but I think I'll stick with my DPM thanks.
Great video! I for multiple environments multicam is hard to beat, but the ATACS held its own for being more of a desert type camo. Keep up the videos!
@Musicgutbucket Only had the UBACS to use unfortunately, pretty rare that I buy a traditional style BDU jacket now-a-days to be honest. Even in the cooler months, once you've got a PC/Chest rig over the top I pretty much always find a UBACS design of top clothing to be way more comfortable.
Appreciate the effort put into the video, perhaps you could do one with less movement--which our eye is very good at detecting--with the subject remaining still so as to see how well the patterns conceal.
@Tux3d0 Nothing much to hunt around here to be honest, it's not as remote or as countryside as it may look, heh. Only 25 minutes on the train and you're looking at tower bridge and the houses of parliament.
@SuperBoomstick Checkout some online Airsoft stores, principally this one called Ebairsoft, they've just got a pretty descent amount of ATACS gear, including plate carriers and vests ^^
@BigManProducciones I will never shop at ebaybanned again. it's chinese dude, what else is there to say? everything they sell is just a low-quality knock off of the real deal. I already found my A-TACS, i got the TAG intrepid rig, Propper BDU's, TAG dump pouch and the TAG combat sustainment pack. If you're going A-TACS go with the real deal. It'll only set you back about 500 for everything which is a bargain for a full loadout.
@SuperBoomstick Well i definetly see your point, a friend of mine bought a Multicam BDU version...2 or 3 i think, it's the one with the integrated knee and elbow pads, and one of the knee pads just fell off after the fourth game...damn. Where did you've got your A-TACS gear bro?
@BigManProducciones at TAG. They have basically everything in A-TACS. tacticalassaultgearstore com is the site. It's military grade so it's a bit pricy but the team I play with has run it for a couple months and they love it.
@robwtsn106 Honestly, I'm not arguing for either camo, I think they both have their benefits. MC did better in the really green stuff, but if I'd had some desert'y to go I think the A-TACS would've won it, so it's each to own on that one.
You'd actually be wrong there. Recently had a go with MC and A-Tacs in a desert and A-Tacs STILL didn't do as well as MC. Where A-Tacs shines seems to be in concrete urban and. A touch of cream dye seems to sort it out for arid settings though. MC stinks in most urban enviros.
A-TACS fooled me a bit to be honest because the green ends up playing with your eyes quite a bit when in a grassy area, the camo pattern turns a lot more green and similar when under a tree with the browns.
While the now have a woodland ATACS, they probably didn't at the time.I haven't seen the woodland variant in action. I think multicam is better for more areas. Your yahoo friend in multicam should just get a set in that multicam because that white just sticks out like a sore thumb. In your area, I might suggest the canadian CAPDAT or russian KLMK since everything is so blasted green there.
lustercowx 6 days ago
@lustercowx That's my brother, not my 'yahoo friend'. The kit he was wearing there was all mine that he wore for the video, and that UBACS just happened to be the only MC upper clothing piece I owned at the time, it would also generally be worn with some kind of LBE covering up the tan coloured centre portion. I have howeversince bought a SORD traditional style shirt to fill the gap.
CKinnerley 6 days ago
army should have A-TAC and marines should have MULTICAM
brooklynbest123 1 week ago
i have a pair of those army green/grey aviator gloves. The stitching sucks bad. Worse than the $30-50 gloves i get from walmart
docjekyll2002 2 weeks ago
A-Tacs was designed for Urban warfare,street fights,iraq,afganisthan..In england or in the UK the urbanistic picture is quite diferent than in the rest of the world,less beton or panel made buildings around,so i don't think that the A-Tacs is good choice for british military use..But the multi cam pattern or MTP is good choice in many points..I'm a former spec force member and i have a quite huge collection of these uniforms..Do you guys have a club,i'm near london and still looking for one
DjEliasL 2 weeks ago
@CKinnerley
DamionJR4923 3 weeks ago
@DamionJR4923 You rang?
CKinnerley 3 weeks ago 4
DOSE A-TACS FG BLEND IN THE WOODS GOOD OR NOT SOMEONE GETBACK TO ME WITH ANSWER ASAP!
reconsniper5 3 weeks ago
@reconsniper5 IT IS NOT EVEN OUT YET! WHEN IT DOES PEOPLE WILL RESPOND AND TELL YOU IF IT DOES OR NOT! IT COMES OUT IN MARCH 2012!
SCARBoy45 3 weeks ago
Why compare apples to oranges? ATACS was originally designed for some rural-urban applications, foothills, scrub-brushes, etc. (*see Iraq/Afghanistan). You're in a woodland environment, comparing a mountain/desert pattern to a woodland pattern? ATACS has displayed both an urban and a woodland pattern. Why not compare woodland vs. woodland?
VastFlux 1 month ago
@VastFlux ATACS-FG isn't even out right now, how would I have gotten hold of it in June last year? The point was to help out a few mates who were interested in the patterns, that's all. Most of England looks the terrain in the video, they wanted to see how well the available ATACS would (or indeed wouldn't) blend in in this country.
CKinnerley 1 month ago
@CKinnerley My bad, my brother. I didn't see that you did this test nearly a year ago.
You can get the ATACS woodland right now if you're tied to the right people. I've got sniper veil material of the stuff and some samples. What I should've said was to use the ATACS in some "scrubby brush/hillside---and THEN compare it to Multicam." I was just remarking on the overall notion of putting a scrub camo like ATACS into a foliage type environment.
VastFlux 1 month ago
@VastFlux No I get what you're saying, that's fine. Like I say though, had a lot of guys who wanted to use this stuff in the woods asking the question, so I made the video to show them what it would be like.
CKinnerley 4 weeks ago
@CKinnerley Agreed. Scrub ATACS is clearly inferior to Multicam in the green foliage. Foliage ATACS is nice, bro. You need to try it! I would definitely choose the foliage ATACS of Multicam, for certain.
VastFlux 4 weeks ago
Multiland vs Multicam would be better to se
VikingFromHalland 1 month ago
I don't believe this comparison or the other videos alike are fair for A-TACS. A-TACS recently came out with their foliage version. All these vidoes that are out their are comparing a camo thats made for desert and urban environement to mulitcam in a foliage effectiveness scheme.
grunticus09 1 month ago
it must be broke i can see you
albinothief 1 month ago 4
@albinothief Yeah must be, I'll put some fresh batteries in.
CKinnerley 1 month ago 5
@albinothief fking freak
TheJaaysog 1 month ago
@TheJaaysog Bit of a harsh thing to say to one of my colleagues isn't it?
CKinnerley 1 month ago
A-TACS is better, I happen to be wearing some now, as a matter of fact
TankJockey38 1 month ago
Hey man! Nice video
Do you know when the FG A-tacs are coming to the markets?
How much approximately they will cost?
I was looking at getting a set of A-TACS, As I just LOVE the pattern.
But in a more realistic sense of mind, I feel Multi-cam would work much better in the environment i use. A mixture of light and dense woodland, aswell as open fresh/dry grass areas. Mostly green. some brown, and a little tan on the open parts etc
Would you recommend getting multicam?
Or waiting for FG At-tacs
mr0awsome0 1 month ago
@mr0awsome0 I'd go with MC if I were in your shoes. It's not really 'perfect' against any background, but it's definitely the most versatile pattern out there, works well against a massive range of environment types.
CKinnerley 1 month ago
I bet the new ATACS FG would work great there.
Loe307uh 2 months ago
@Loe307uh I reckon you're right, you're certainly not the first person to say that actually. Soon as it's on the market I'll be picking some up.
CKinnerley 2 months ago
Its too bad you british boys can play dress up but cant own real firearms!
THEKINGOFMETROPOLIS 2 months ago
@THEKINGOFMETROPOLIS I can't really own much myself, but luckily my employer does have plenty that they let me have a go on, just now and again you know. Can't go too far wrong with a good, full auto 5.56.
CKinnerley 2 months ago
@CKinnerley Nice dude. You sound like the luckiest dude in England if you get to shoot full auto weapons. I can't even do that. Gotta ask though. Would an ATAC combat jacket work well with maybe a Multi-cam plate carrier?
THEKINGOFMETROPOLIS 2 months ago
@THEKINGOFMETROPOLIS Heh, well me and the other 180k-odd people that are in the british armed forces yeah. Can't say I've tried A-TACS with multicam yet though I've seen a lot of people ask, I reckon it would look alright though.
CKinnerley 2 months ago
@CKinnerley are you talking about the L85 great gun but i like the Bushmaster ACR im an american in california any gun besides any explosive or full auto
skate4ever214 1 month ago
@skate4ever214 Correct, the L85A2 is the only weapon I actually shoot, but that's just the nature of the job. On the plus side it has full auto which I've used on quite a few occasions, and I actually work with explosives all day in my 8-5.
CKinnerley 1 month ago
I'm looking for the best camo possible in a simulated urban environment, is multicam suited for this? Or would I better buy A-TACS for this purpose.
generaldeejee 2 months ago
atacs is the best, but just an fyi, they're ACU's not BDU's
dougman066 2 months ago
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mr0awsome0 1 month ago
@dougman066
No they are the same thing.
ACU = Army Combat Uniform
BDU = Battle Dress Uniform
mr0awsome0 1 month ago
@mr0awsome0 ACU is the successor of the BDU and DCU. the ACU is an upgraded pattern to blend into almost every environment. the U.S. Army uses the ACU while countries like Bolivia or Iraq uses the BDU.
dougman066 1 month ago
@dougman066
No. The term i am referring to is not a type of camo. It is the name of the clothing to certain armies.
It is a certain countries Battle Dress Uniform. Or Army Combat Uniform.
ACU is a camo i know.
But i have never heard of a camo called BDU, I don't think there is such thing.
mr0awsome0 1 month ago
@mr0awsome0 What i meant was that the pasterns used to make an ACU are far superior than a BDU. And my mistake i meant it uses an upgraded pattern.
dougman066 1 month ago
@mr0awsome0 yeah a BDU is a type of uniform. technically ACU is as well but the camo is so synonymous with the uniform that everyone just calls it that. the camo is technically called UCP (universal camouflage pattern).
theNICAguy 1 month ago
what kind of pants are the multicam? i couldnt quite understand him in the video
mitchploeg 2 months ago
@mitchploeg Yeah that was my fault, didn't properly brief my oppo there. The brand's 'OPS', google 'UR-Tactical'
CKinnerley 2 months ago
great vid, thx for uploading
THEMERCIFULONE 2 months ago
If you like the ATACS pattern but you are more in the forested environment, get FB ATACS, its about to be out. But for an overall pattern, MC rules above all else in my opinion. That, or XCAMO.
MrDistancenow 2 months ago
Multicam is way more versatile than A-TACS. If I were only allowed one uniform period for every deployment... I would pick MultiCam.
paperlanterns98 2 months ago
Multicam. A-TACS isn't bad but it lacks some colors for that environment. Multicam works almost everywhere. It's not perfect but true camouflage is environment specific.
browneye77 2 months ago
I'm seriously considering maybe picking up some A-tacs. I live in Canada, and though I LOVE CADPAT, it quite simply doesn't work in the early spring/fall. I've considered the arid marpat, but it's just too light for my area. A-Tacs is much darker, and the coloration is almost perfect, even the lighter whiteish would blend well with the poplar trees.
Rossco139 2 months ago
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mil sim FAGGOTS... DIE
GLOCK22BYITCH 2 months ago
@GLOCK22BYITCH Ignorant morons who are still living in the 18th century when spouting such utterly cunting stupid retarded bullshit was actually acceptable... DIE
CKinnerley 2 months ago 7
@CKinnerley maby... but i farted in your mouth and your steady tasting it. DIE TWICE bYitch
GLOCK22BYITCH 2 months ago
@GLOCK22BYITCH Holy fuck, the sheer level of uber-stupidity you exhibit is absolutely breath taking, I have never in my life witnessed a cunt of such epic proportions, you can't even manage to produce a video that's the correct way up and you go around the place trolling like a twat? Holy titty fucking christ you're dense beyond belief, the fact you live across the atlantic ocean from me and thought it would somehow be a good idea to make your last comment is a testament to your idiocy, fuck...
CKinnerley 2 months ago 3
@GLOCK22BYITCH
You mad bro?
THEJETDEMON 2 months ago
useful video. thanks. still a big fan of your work; you don't deserve this kind of grief.
PoorWorksmanship 2 months ago
i hope the below statements are taken seriously and not pounded by immature rants and arguments. This is a topic that must not be uprooted and soiled by purely unscientific opinion and childish arguments that cannot support anything. I'm not normally one to get caught up in a youtube debate, but I am interested in it and I don't want it ruined, like many other debates, by three year olds spamming about "MULTICAM SUCKS" or "A TACS IS @#%* ON CLOTHING". I'd like this debate to be handled maturely.
Fettman501 3 months ago 2
@Fettman501 Well said.
CKinnerley 2 months ago
neither is better, but when the green version of a tacs comes out, all bets are on the a tacs because it is the next stage in camouflage technology. first was the drab and dull colors, then the blotch patterns we came to love, then it evolved into digital patterns. multicam will probably be one of the last of the blotch camouflages as camo tech evolves from digital to organic digital (a tacs). the only way to make sure is a thorough scientific experiment, posted unaltered on youtube.
Fettman501 3 months ago
at least that's my theory
Fettman501 3 months ago
I'd assume that a tacs works where there is either an absence of green or in heavily wooded areas. Multicam would probably work anywhere where there's a patch of green, but not in jungles or lush places where the hue of green is different. a tacs might work in a tundra, but neither would do well in a snowy environment. the makers of a tacs are coming out with a green version due to popular demand. for now, multicam and a tacs are companion camouflages that compensate for the others weakness.
Fettman501 3 months ago
720p thanks for taken the time for that.
echo1er 3 months ago
Camoflage works better when you don't MOVE!.
SuburbanShinobi8000 3 months ago
some hunting gears style are much more effective than military pattern for woodland landscapes dissimulation.
xenomorphelv426 3 months ago
The A-TACS just doesn't have enough green to successfully conceal an individual in a forested environment. that's why Multicam made it to the army. also as respectfully as i can say this, just play airsoft and stay away from reviewing camouflage. black boots and your trying to be camoflaged? nice Crye gear though. get a plate carrier or a field jacket you don't need a combat shirt. Arc'teryx makes a better combat shirt if you want a light shirt with full camo.
n0tmlg 3 months ago
@n0tmlg You can't camouflage yourself in the woods in black boots? You must be doing something really wrong, because when I did my basic training I saw an awful lot of people manage to disappear in to the undergrowth wearing DPM and black boots, all it takes is the right application of cam cream and foliage.
As for do I 'need' a UBACS? Well no, but I find it a hell of a lot more comfortable under a PC/Chest Rig when I'm running around in the summer, so I'll use what I like, thank you.
CKinnerley 3 months ago
@n0tmlg they just came out with A-TAC with green in it looks just the dame same just with a spot of green looks like it got spread paint
DJImfamuos1408 2 months ago
ive seen photos of hthe a-tacs in use in afghanistan and the soldiers wer resting on a side of a mountain and it blended and distorted there figure very well.
MrBloodyGulch 4 months ago
In my opinion though the A-TACS seems to distort the human figure very well in thick branches.
DeathShepardAirsoft 4 months ago
Plain and simple BDU's would work best for your area
DeathShepardAirsoft 4 months ago
Lol your brothers shirt there is designed to be worn with the plate carrier vest. It's not meant to be worn by itself like that.
Bluedotism 4 months ago
@Bluedotism Funnily enough, I am aware of the point of a UBACS. I didn't own a multicam PC/Vest of any kind at the time, so there was nothing to be done about it.
CKinnerley 4 months ago
@CKinnerley Ya I watched some of your other videos actually. I like your reviews.
Bluedotism 4 months ago
@MrKingtigertank I could indeed, I'll be sure to carry a sandbag with me in future just in case. :p
CKinnerley 4 months ago
That dude pulled a sweet move at the beginning trying to make his arm blend in with the grass. Didn't quite work but it looked like a Napoleon Dynamite dance move :)
krobak47 4 months ago
You should have used some more distance in the shots for the comparison. I live in a concrete jungle so A-tacs is my choice. I have also tested multicam in urban areas its not bad but its not good either.
ptownpresident 4 months ago
looks like it would fare well in Afghanistan. I think i still prefer multicam though.
hamielrs 5 months ago
there aren't deserts in England?
fenderguitarist05 5 months ago
@fenderguitarist05 Not entirely sure if that's a serious question.. but no, none that I'm aware of.
CKinnerley 5 months ago 8
@CKinnerley haha no I wasn't being serious
fenderguitarist05 5 months ago
@fenderguitarist05 Sorry mate, hard to tell online, just checking.
CKinnerley 5 months ago
@CKinnerley lol
6KenL 4 months ago
@fenderguitarist05 hahahahaaaa u morron!!!
Scharfschutze1972 4 months ago
@Scharfschutze1972 clearly you do not understand the concept of sarcasm. It's funny because most people with an elementary level of education know that there is of course, no deserts in England. Also I would advise spelling the word 'moron' correctly, before trying to insult someone with it.
fenderguitarist05 4 months ago
@fenderguitarist05 if i ever offended you im sorry i thought MORON was a how to say it light insult, but i can clearly see your reaction, be tolerant your sense of humor SUCKS and the English should have lots of it,....both camouflages sucks, check your fellow countryman Pencott of Hydedefinition,....and by the way i am Argentinian you islander......
Scharfschutze1972 4 months ago
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@Scharfschutze1972 Game over, you lose.
fenderguitarist05 4 months ago
@fenderguitarist05 Thats right, that is why the Royal marines are training in the U.S. Deserts in operation Black Alligator right now.
archiaskcommando 4 months ago
Very informative indeed, i like the way you compare the patterns in different environments, this gives the audience a better grasp of how the patterns react in different environments.
jimuteno 6 months ago
MARPAT-CADPAT-DPM-FLECK-US WOODLAND would work better than even Multicam in your neck of the woods. The ATAC camo looks like shit. I can see it blending in with desert and nothing else
1lostinspace 6 months ago 2
@1lostinspace Which is precisely why I own temperate MARPAT, DPM and Flecktarn and US woodland, as well as various OD BDUs. As I say in the video, I did the comparison because the question was being asked in various places, but the only kind of landscape I've got anywhere near around me is, unfortunately, green.
CKinnerley 6 months ago
@CKinnerley
Yeah Marpat is what I would use or Cadpat
1lostinspace 6 months ago
@1lostinspace Yeah in that hue but there is supposed to be different hues of the ATACS pattern out likely something with alittle more green to it to work with woodland.
ViolentKisses87 5 months ago
@ViolentKisses87 Indeed, A-TACS FG is on the way, so we'll see how that fairs.
CKinnerley 4 months ago
gayest multicam shirt ever
TheJasonDR 6 months ago
@TheJasonDR Wow.. now that is just amazingly original. I mean, I've just never seen anyone use the term 'gay' in an attempt to describe something in a negative fashion before. Do you write your own material? Because that is some cutting edge stuff right there, just so fresh, really never heard anyone use that word to do that before. Really great job man, love it.
Now fuck off.
CKinnerley 6 months ago 19
multicam
clap5 6 months ago
You need real guns
parabellumwarrior 6 months ago
Atacs didn't clash as bad as i thought it would in all honesty. Curious as to how expensive a loadout will be for condor gear once it's released.
Chris0Barry4 6 months ago
I hate how that multicam shirt has tan, i wish it was in OD green or coyote tan. I love the Coyote tan with Multicam :)
20GATE91 6 months ago
Issues with the UBACS aside, this is a good field comparison, so thanks. I think they both did pretty well in all the environments, although neither was great anywhere (like proper multi-terrain camoflages are meant to be). A-TACS wasn't so good in the woods, but I think I'll stick with my DPM thanks.
Jedwoods 6 months ago
Great video! I for multiple environments multicam is hard to beat, but the ATACS held its own for being more of a desert type camo. Keep up the videos!
SAoperator45 7 months ago
matey with multicam should really worn a jacket in hind sight....eh? good vid all the same lads.
Musicgutbucket 7 months ago 3
@Musicgutbucket Only had the UBACS to use unfortunately, pretty rare that I buy a traditional style BDU jacket now-a-days to be honest. Even in the cooler months, once you've got a PC/Chest rig over the top I pretty much always find a UBACS design of top clothing to be way more comfortable.
CKinnerley 7 months ago
Appreciate the effort put into the video, perhaps you could do one with less movement--which our eye is very good at detecting--with the subject remaining still so as to see how well the patterns conceal.
mmj901 7 months ago
I can never understand why the torso on the MC combat shirts is always desert tan... coyote or an OD would be such a better match
medicdude3 7 months ago
Do you guys do any catapult hunting?
Tux3d0 8 months ago
@Tux3d0 Nothing much to hunt around here to be honest, it's not as remote or as countryside as it may look, heh. Only 25 minutes on the train and you're looking at tower bridge and the houses of parliament.
CKinnerley 8 months ago
@SuperBoomstick Ares Armor also has Plate carriers in A-Tacs.
TeamIGSoCalAirsoft 8 months ago
If I could only find a modular plate carrier in A-Tacs, I'd be set. Until then it's multicam :)
SuperBoomstick 8 months ago
@SuperBoomstick TAG makes various MOLLE kit in A-TACS now, might take a bit of searching but I'm sure there's people out there who stock it.
CKinnerley 8 months ago
@CKinnerley
And Condor is also planning on releasing its A-TACS carrie and pouches in Oct.
randytang7 7 months ago
@SuperBoomstick condor makes one
OperationThor 7 months ago
@SuperBoomstick Now Condor makes one. In addition, the Australian company Sord makes some. plus TAG makes one as you said.
Themis88 7 months ago
@Themis88 The last thing you ever want to cheap out on is a vest. Condor is garbage. I'll stick with TAG
SuperBoomstick 7 months ago
@SuperBoomstick There was another vid and this dude's multicam was indestinguishable from the A-TACS
thatghillyguy 6 months ago
@SuperBoomstick Checkout some online Airsoft stores, principally this one called Ebairsoft, they've just got a pretty descent amount of ATACS gear, including plate carriers and vests ^^
BigManProducciones 6 months ago
@BigManProducciones I will never shop at ebaybanned again. it's chinese dude, what else is there to say? everything they sell is just a low-quality knock off of the real deal. I already found my A-TACS, i got the TAG intrepid rig, Propper BDU's, TAG dump pouch and the TAG combat sustainment pack. If you're going A-TACS go with the real deal. It'll only set you back about 500 for everything which is a bargain for a full loadout.
SuperBoomstick 6 months ago
@SuperBoomstick Well i definetly see your point, a friend of mine bought a Multicam BDU version...2 or 3 i think, it's the one with the integrated knee and elbow pads, and one of the knee pads just fell off after the fourth game...damn. Where did you've got your A-TACS gear bro?
BigManProducciones 6 months ago
@BigManProducciones at TAG. They have basically everything in A-TACS. tacticalassaultgearstore com is the site. It's military grade so it's a bit pricy but the team I play with has run it for a couple months and they love it.
SuperBoomstick 6 months ago
@SuperBoomstick Well if i'm going to pay the price, better be for some real quality gear. Very much appreciated bro ^^
BigManProducciones 6 months ago
@robwtsn106 Honestly, I'm not arguing for either camo, I think they both have their benefits. MC did better in the really green stuff, but if I'd had some desert'y to go I think the A-TACS would've won it, so it's each to own on that one.
CKinnerley 8 months ago
@CKinnerley
You'd actually be wrong there. Recently had a go with MC and A-Tacs in a desert and A-Tacs STILL didn't do as well as MC. Where A-Tacs shines seems to be in concrete urban and. A touch of cream dye seems to sort it out for arid settings though. MC stinks in most urban enviros.
PariahOfTheKOHLM 8 months ago
A-TACS fooled me a bit to be honest because the green ends up playing with your eyes quite a bit when in a grassy area, the camo pattern turns a lot more green and similar when under a tree with the browns.
ThePurcy 8 months ago
@ThePurcy Yep, it's pretty good stuff. Not perfect in the foliage/grass, but in the mud and dead leaves it's not a bad camo for woodland use at all.
CKinnerley 8 months ago