Neighbors Buzzing about Backyard Beehives

[PakiEagle1]

when population exceeds in a hive then beekeeper needs to divide the colony b4 the swarm and provide new queen for them.

[PakiEagle1]

professional beekeeper must check out the hive at regular frequency and he must have the idea about the population of the bees and efficiency as well as age of the queen. If queen gets old and weak then the bees start making new queen and when new queen is formed then the old one leaves along with her group.

next if population is exceeded from certain level then they cannot be accommodate in single colony hence they swarm off.

3rd if food is insufficient then they migrate. 

[magprob]

Anyone that doesn't want bees in their neighborhood needs them in their underwear.

Ignorance is our worst enemy.

[ewtubewashed]

Free The Bees!

[ometec]

hives in close proximity with people represent no greater risk, and you've provided no information to back up such a claim of risk

[ApiaryManager]

I can see that you are not going to be convinced. We are going to have to agree to dissagree. I have said all that I intend to say on the subject. People are just going to have to make their own mind up.

[ometec]

Bring some factual data and maybe you could do better.

Fact is bees and mankind have coexisted since the dawn of civilization, and mankind hasn't perished.

Next time someone slips me crab meat and I administer myself aid, I'll think of you.

[ometec]

Products yes but the sandwich one kid gets from another isn't and you don't know you're alergic until you've eaten it.

I developed an allergy to crustaceans as a mature adult, no one warned me.

1 drop can close my throat - but they prepare in the same kitchens with steak & burgers. No one is going to remove shrimp lobster and crab JUST to protect me and a few others. Same for bees.

[ApiaryManager]

I agree. The number of people in the population who are severely allergic to bee-stings is relatively small (~50 people in the US died last year as a result). However, I wouldn't trade a single human life for any number of bees. My comments are intended only to inform people of the risk involved in placing hives in close proximity with people.

[ApiaryManager]

Products containing nuts usually have a warning so that people with nut allergies can avoid them. I suppose that is the reason for the registration / licensing mentioned at the end of the video. Why would anyone object to this?

[ometec]

Same reason I shouldn't have to register the jar of nuts in my house - that's why.

The wasps, hornets and wild bees are not registered - those under control certainly don't need to be.

[davidnordin]

How I understand your previous posts, is that you're stating the bees will more or less seek you out and sting you.

The only scenario I can see I can get our local bees to sting is either by getting them stuck in clothes or hair, or by waving my arms, banging and stomping on or close to hives.

Please just clarify your statement about "To bring bees and people in close proximity is asking for trouble." because this is the reason of my reaction - it's just a bold and stupid statement.

[ApiaryManager]

So, lets get this straight.....

Someone has different experience to you and you say they are a liar and stupid?

Just look back through the comments and you can see at least one person who is allergic to bee venom.

Personally, I carry an epipen with me all of the time. Not for myself - because my teenage son died from a single beesting. I carry it so that I don't have to stand helplessly by if someone should need it.

[ometec]

"at least one person who is allergic to bee venom"

Yep and a number allergic to beanut butter, but the stores still sell it.

Bees are a fact of life and exist with or without a managed hive. Managed properly placed hives are no problem. We have poisonous snakes here that pose much more of a threat.

[davidnordin]

People spreading misleading and/or false information fall under the "idiot-category" - yes.

Allergies are uninteresting, I can get medicines to store here if I'd like to. It's a shame, but this is the way it is for some - there's still more important things such as beekeeping that need to continue nevertheless.

Bees are everywhere along with their closely related insects - if you keep a hive of calm bees in your garden, there will only be a positive addition to insects in the area.

[ApiaryManager]

What, precisely, have I said that is either missleading or false? Nothing!

I am sorry that you don't find allergic reactions worth discussing. It is a fact that worker-bees are equipped with a sting and, for people who are allergic, that sting can prove fatal.

[davidnordin]

The percentage of allergic people is less than minimal in comparison to the rest of the world, and there are means to get rid of allergies today with treatments. Added to this there's great medicine, even adrenaline shots to aid the severely allergic.

A minimal groups allergy is an insufficient reason to banish bees from the cities.

In any case it has already been stated that you can live well as neighbours; allergic people and beekeepers.

[ApiaryManager]

You assume that everyone who is going to suffer an anaphylactic response KNOWS that they are allergic.

Thats ok. I didn't think it could happen either!

[davidnordin]

Actually we had a beekeeper suffer from a anaphylactic shock this year, obviously she was clueless to the allergy.

Now she's more cautious obviously, and more disciplined with her protective clothing etc.

[ApiaryManager]

Thats exactly my point. She was lucky to survive.

[vickiormindyb]

A honey bee can kill me with one sting.

I'm severely allergic to bees and carry an Epi-pen everywhere I go. If I get stung, I have to give myself a shot and go to the hospital for further treatment.

I NEVER bother bees, but they follow me all over the place.

IDK what it is about me that attracts them, but their sting is deadly to me.

[ometec]

No they don't seek you out or follow you. But if you think they do you should stay inside, because bees can be anywhere outside - it's where they live.

[ApiaryManager]

Yet again, you have deliberately missinterpretted what I actually wrote.

I am not allergic to honeybee venom but others are. If you had ever seen someone suffer an anaphylactic response you would not be so flipant about it either.

[ometec]

Actually I have been present and responsible.

You are a pretty arrogant SOB.

I'm not flipant, I realistic. You cannot shelter everyone from what they might be allergic to.

Bees are a part of the outdoors, allergic people live on farms too. My best friend took a sting in Washington DC in '76, at dinner INDOORS he had epinephrine on him. Wasps are every bit as dangerus and all around all the time.

[Lewa4683]

Bees who swarm are at their most dossicle. And any beekeeper can fairly easily hive a swarm if they have a spare hive laying around as alot of us do. I can sit 5 feet from a hive and not get bothered by the bees. People who would ban bees in a naborhood need to get their facts straight on bees before banning them.

[davidnordin]

Bollox.

Get calm bees and you'll have no problem having them among people.

[ApiaryManager]

Experience has taught me that even the most docile strain of honeybee will sting at times (e.g. when a strong nectar-flow comes to an end).

[davidnordin]

That should only be if you're directly in front of the hive - other than that - get better queens!

[ApiaryManager]

Do you think I am some sort of beginner?My comments are based upon extensive experience with a range of the best breeding lines available and my own developements using Instrumental insemination techniques.

Your "get better queens" comments are repetitive and, quite frankly, insulting! I can only assume that you are speaking from a lack of experience if you really do believe that a line of bees exists that will never sting! I assure you that it doesn't!

[davidnordin]

The only thing I find coming out of your responses is lying.

Obviously any bee will sting - if stressed.

Although if you have a normal 750m2+ garden and a good spot for the hives it's unheard of to get bees to attack and sting you if you keep out of their space.

[ometec]

not a beginer, just something of a single minded idiot

[ApiaryManager]

Oh, I see, informed discussion doesn't work so you resort to abuse, eh? Typical!

[ometec]

You've provided no information, only inflated opinion. And I've yet to commit any more abuse than you.

[davidnordin]

If you get good queens from a good variety such as ligustica or Buckfast, with a known heritage - chances are you're off for a good start.

Then it's up to you and your colleagues to succeed.

We're hundreds of beekeepers trying to breed forth what we desire in our lines, cooperating and meeting all-year through.

Obviously you and someone around you will get stuck eventually, but it's only likely this is by pure accident.

This however is hardly a reason not to get bees.

[ApiaryManager]

I only hope that you never have to experience the pain that comes from losing someone you love as a result of a bee-sting.

[ometec]

I hope you heal

[ApiaryManager]

.....and I hope that you don't have to lose a loved-one before you change your mind.

[ometec]

And as I've said they can go from wild bees, wasps, and where I live ants.

Live has no guarantee but family histories provide a good indicator and those people should take care not to wear cologne, drip icecream popcycles etc, get tested and carry an eppy @ all times. As I said I've been there (3 times with shellfish) once caused by the doctors who had been told.

[ApiaryManager]

After keeping bees for 20 years I can say with a certain amount of confidence: There is NO SUCH THING as a worker bee that WILL NOT sting!

To bring bees and people in close proximity is asking for trouble.

Farmers are only too happy to have bees on their land so doesn't it make sense to put them well away from people?

[ometec]

Yeah but you think dropping drones into dry ice is a good idea too.

Abuse the bees and they'll bee mean.

We NEED bees in the local environ for healthy trees grass and flowers

[ApiaryManager]

Bees do nothing for the "health" of a plant but they do aid in its reproduction by transferring pollen.

Grass is wind-pollinated so is of little use to honeybees. Workers will sometimes gather grass pollen if there is nothing better around but it is of low nutritional value.

[ometec]

Not "a" plant but plants in general.

The trees impact the grass.

Honey is honey, I suggest you educate yourself on the nutritional value of both it and nectar.

[ApiaryManager]

I suggest that you read what I actually wrote rather than miss-quoting it. I was referring to the nutritional value of grass pollen to honeybees (as a source of protein) compared to other plants. If you have studied honeybees as much as I have you would find numerous research papers on the subject.

[ometec]

I didn't quote you - I suggest you simply learn to read. 1 or 2 people in 1000 are severely allergic. That's the USDA's numbers because I do read and can cite sources.

[ometec]

I suggest you read what I actually wrote.

[ometec]

Lots of things bees transfer pollen from are primarily wind polinated and there is no nectar source for them in grass, but they will take what pollen they can when they are in need. It does enhance the grass, we've tested it at sod farms with bees and a mix of clover and other feeding sources for the honey bee. The grass fills in thicker.

[ApiaryManager]

I'm not sure what you have heard/read about outting drones in dry-ice. The only thing that I have heard about that resembles what you have said is experiments to preserve drone semen for instrumental insemination purposes. In these cases, the semen is extracted and stored in capiliary tubes which keeps at room temperature for about 2 weeks. In other words, the experiment failed (drone semen cannot be frozen in the same way that it is for other breeding stock).

[ometec]

Just what I saw on your channel

[ApiaryManager]

Now I understand where the confusion has arisen.

Carbon dioxide is used to anaesthetise the queen during instrumental insemination (two treatments are necessary). The clip that you probably saw (Martin Braunstein) used it on workers too. I am uncertain what the effect on the hypopharyngial gland would bee though. I haven't seen CO2 used on drones though.

[ApiaryManager]

FYI: The hypopharyngial gland is in the head of the worker bee. When young workers consume pollen (protein) they secrete food from this gland for the developing brood.

As they get older, this gland doesn't produce as much and the bee moves onto other jobs within the colony.

[ometec]

Tell me something I don't know.

[boxa888]

they are practically harmless from raising a hive of my own. if your going over to the hive and purposly squishing them or hurting the hive thats when they sting! i did get stung 2 times and thats because i was opening up the hive, i was starting the trouble! i always have them land on me as proof how harmless they are, i even put my hand so they walk on it and nothing happens because i show no harm towards them,im just another leaf!believe me they dont want to die, they live a short life.

[fyiyrcn]

Spray, the Hives with a solution of honey and Cow urine, they have tried it in India and it seems to remove the mites and fungi, you must open and spray the inside and the Bee's.

[lambutan82]

What else other than honey do they spray with urine as well?

[Lewa4683]

Bees In india are somewhat diffrent from the ones in america, and also treatments that work in those conditions might not work as well in this environment. Still i suppose a look into any possible might treatments is worth a shot.

[ometec]

Indian cow urine is different from cow urine in other parts of the world (Holy Cows not fed or medicated like commercial cows)

[fyiyrcn]

Thats a good point!

[voice5751]

haha i haven't seen not one this year

[cantfly6]

i think ive only seen one bumble bee this year. and thats it.

[cabbldr]

How can I get a hive and a colony? I would love to help replenish the bee population in our area. I rarely see a honey bee anymore.

[Lewa4683]

Cabbldr, Igot started with the book beekeeping for dummies. I've also heard that the beekeepers handbook is a good place to start. You should also consider getting in touch with other beekeepers in your area as their help on the subject(getting bees in your area, best time to requeen in your area etc) is some of the most useful info you can get.

[ometec]

Knowing where you are would help in answering your question.

[oilhammer04]

My hat's off to you guys. Keep up the bee keeping.