Richard Dawkins did a great speech on this: /watch?v=lKFtNuGt4rw
Darwin's Evolution of the Eye is one of the most often used creationist mined quotes. There are also the Eddington Concession and Dawkins' Cambrian Explosion.
At 06:20 he says - Communists, 'second word', Objectivists - can anybody tell me what that second word, is I can't make it out.
'Scientific Theory' is not a 'Theory' - to believe that is an Equivication Fallacy. A 'Scientific Theory' is an explanation which fits the facts. As such it is not 'truth' but rather an 'incomplete truth' To be 'truth' Darwin's theory would need to be proved, requiring an accurate record of every single living thing that has ever lived, which is not possible.
@DontBendOverForAllah "Raëlians". They're a crazy religion based on the idea that the creators of humanity were a race of alien beings known as the "Elohim".
@EvolvedSkeptic Nah, I mean Matt, not the caller, was saying that cosmology is mainstream science. Ie: a natural science. I guess i wanted to know the purpose. All natural sciences seek positive knowledge of some sort. What does cosmology seek? But also, I guess if i really cared i would look it up
@HeartbreakChronicles Right, you know more about reality than every scientist in this world. Because every single one of them disagrees with what you said. And that does not even put some doubt about your own thoughts in your mind? Do you realize that the computer you are looking at is a product of science? Yet when it comes to things like evolution or cosmology, you suddenly call it 'stupid'. Sorry but you are the one who is being stupid. You're ignorant, pedantic and don't understand science.
@iliveon Take a toothpick, gently scrape the inside of your cheek and look at the scrapings under a microscope. If anyone can still deny they are made of tinier building blocks after doing this experiment, they're helpless.
@EvolvedSkeptic Hahaha, I like your little rant here. Here's a quote I heard somewhere. It points to the reason why you can't debate with a backwards theist: "Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience". Thought you might like that one.
The sad thing is that—even after being exposed for parroting text but not understanding it— the caller still laughs derisively and says "Oh boy, well I made my point anyway". I guess if the foundation of your world-view is a lie, then you become very good at lying.
No you moron. One can argue from mainstream science like Cosmology, for example, in favor of God's existence. Use your brain a little before commenting. Seriously.
I wasn't attempting to apply the scientific method to prove God exists. However, one can argue from mainstream science when it supports theism. Obviously you don't care to dialogue. That's fine. At least we know you're a coward and are unintellectual. I have no time for such people. Take care.
Why don't just say you're afraid to debate me and go cower with your tail between your legs? I told you I won't argue for God's existence from the Bible. I'll argue from science and philosophy. The topic of our debate? What have you been asking for this entire time? We'll debate whether or not God exists and if faith in Him is rational and justifiable. So look me up on PalTalk; I gave you my info. If you won't, don't waste my time with anymore of your petty comments.
How about a challenge to a debate? YouTube is hardly the right forum for such a dialogue (especially since you STILL have me blocked), so download PalTalk and we can have a real, vocal dialogue with people who can listen in. Let's see if there's any bite to all this barking...
Classy response, worthy of Guinness, even. By the way, you coward, your comments are pending and will be posted as soon as I have the time to respond. That is, until I WOULD HAVE responded except you blocked me after your whining rant. Again, you're a coward and there is nothing evolved about your primitive mind.
It's because creationists believe that evolution will completely derail what the bible says and so they paint the scientific theory of evolution as a religion that is detrimental to their faith. Basically their holding onto dying religions and purposefully blind themselves and others.
Wow... The guy gets it explained, in EXPLICIT detail, how his conclusion is TOTALLY and DEMONSTRABLY wrong, and yet he COMPLETELY disregards is all and leaves in a huff as if the hosts are being bullheaded for not agreeing hands down with his incomprehensibly flawed "point".
He decided that, not matter what, that bit of that quote was the linch pin in his reasons for disregarding any and all evidence in order to protect his fragile beliefs.
"This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of Light because their deeds were evil. Anyone who does evil hates the Light and will not come in to the Light, lest his deeds be exposed. But whoever lives by the Truth comes into the Light so that it may be seen plainly, that what he has done has been done through God." -John 3:19
okay then. i presume u r a christian. if you look in your bible, god kills 70,000 people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21). God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3). i can go on if you want.
@xXxforkboyxXx I'm familiar with the history. In fact, my atheist brother & I were just discussing the subject not 1 hour ago lol. He was saying that a Holy God can not commit calamity in such a manner. I was trying to explain to him that if God is truly Holy, then everything he does is of just cause & if his understanding is perfect, we have no right to pass judgment on his wrath. He was saying how convenient my argument was & I agree, it is, why then would the liars put it in scripture?
@xXxforkboyxXx God makes it clear that he is a just God so his wrath is inevitable: you sin, you die. From a human perspective, we could never understand, but that's because we know that we have no just cause to kill. If the people were killed by the ordinance of God, we can understand that they were a depraved people; they had no hope of salvation as they were totally against God. It's like God was just clearing out the useless waste(for lack of a more positive term) doubt if they went 2 Hell.
" If the people were killed by the ordinance of God, we can understand that they were a depraved people; they had no hope of salvation as they were totally against God."
how can you think this is even slightly moral? god kills them because they dare to oppose him. why worship such a god? heck, stand up to him (if you believe he exists). he may do SOME good stuff, but thats hardly a compensation for blatant massacars.
@Hakarfox There's nothing wrong with my perception. I'm just another hateful, wicked, selfish man in the world that's entertained by all things I know is wrong; like death & violence. Just like everybody else. For this reason, I know not to trust my perception to work alone, so I depend on the Word of God as my authority.
haha....the caller said its a paradox....what a dumbass--he had no business making that impulsive phone call, he doesn't even know what a paradox is....lol what a dumbass...he sounded like a 2nd grader reading.
I can easily prove that though it shows 'language', (code or crypt, would be a more accurate word, by the way), that is not proof of a sign of "intelligent design"
One simple question: what came first, the language, or the thought?
Most people blurt out in rather confident ignorance: "Thought! You have to think to design a language", failing to realize that they would not be able to form that thought without a language.
Go ahead....Try to think any thought without using any language.
Nobody can answer the language-thought question, that is the point. (Think chicken and egg, but much more eloquent) Language is needed to formulate thought, and thought is needed to formulate language. It is a cycle that facilitates itself, ad infinitum.
'Language' or code is not a sign of 'intelligence.' It IS, however--just as DNA clearly demonstrates--a part of nature.
It is a form of communication between material masses that possess what we call 'life', THATS IT!!
No it is not, because you cant prove that it acutally did come from a mind.. Surely it could have been made by Aliens aswell as God... or maybe it just is the nature of the chemestry of our world...
Just because we find a delicate part of our world, and then you assume its from a mind, yet you have not seen it come from a mind.
Its like walking in the forest and finding a rock and then you say, "Ahh there must be rockmakers here somewhere"
Check this out!!! While all you people are fighting and arguing over subjects that will never win anyone over... There is a group of people who are sticking "it" right up your A... By passing bills into laws that will force you to do their will... Higher taxes, loss of freedom of speech, inflation on a scale never seen before etc... They have you right where they want you, fighting, arguing and divided... Next comes the vaseline... Wake up, there is more important issues
0:30-0:43 "i just want to get this one quote out, to people who are believers of Darwins theory, 'cause they probably doesn't know this quote Darwin had about human eye"
That just too damn ironic... I wonder how many "believers of Darwins theory" didn't know what was coming next, or strictly speaking what didn't come...
Glasser cuts off Matt to take take the moral high ground and point out that he didn't accuse the caller of lying: leaving the caller to sign off with the impression that his interpretation of the Darwin quote was true and that Glasser agrees!! Why did he do this? Because he was more intent on criticizing the use of Darwinism than the misquote. Someone, please, smack him; make sure he's awake before he responds. (okay, i know the best of debaters do this from time to time, still...)
Thanks votebots for highlighting another excellent video 5 stars and excellent channel which has of course I have subscribed too.
Alfred Russel Wallace also worked out the theory of evolution independently do the term Darwinist is only used by idiots. Evolutionist is also idiotic term do we call people gravitationalist, heliocentralist...etc?
@DontBendOverForAllah Why then do people dedicate so much time attempting to destroy the sustaining faith of people who's God doesn't even exist? Just because you hate the thought of admitting to your wickedness doesn't mean you should waste time hating a good God. This life is all you get, so stop wasting so much time on a non-existent god and start living it up.
@blattt188 I don't 'hate' anything. btw thanks for reminding me of the Alfred Russel Wallace reference I had forgotten that, it clearly debunks the term 'Darwinist'.
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The other mistake often made (even by Scientists sometimes) is that his Scientific Theory was called 'The Origin of Species by Natural Selection' not the 'Theory of Evolution' so 'Evolutionist' is also wrong. 'Natural Selectionist' would be the accurate term, however that is never used as everybody knows that happens.
@DontBendOverForAllah Natural selection doesn't change species into other species & it doesn't make sub-species become more complex. No matter how much time passes, it just doesn't happen. Evolution is crap. Nothing in the world supports evolution except for empty human reasoning. Things don't become more complex. In fact, everything tends toward disorder & it's the same on every scale. This universe, without an intelligent cause would be one big illusion.
@Grey13Human And Pat Condell says 'God Bless Atheism' it's called being Ironic. The Theory (ie explanation for different species) is 'natural selection' so the correct phrase would be 'Natural Selectionist' not 'Darwinist' or 'Evolutionist'
Really..will they ever learn to stop quote mining? It's really getting old. The beauty of science is it is an open forum if these douche bags who believe this (god) crap ever look it up. For fuck's sake it's the 21st century use the damn internet.
@Brewhahh Does it really matter? The greatest minds in history were God fearing people, but as long as man loves his sin, man will hate God. Then nothing else really matters. Even is science rules out "chance" as a reasonable explanation for the universe, proud man will move on to something new to convince themselves that ultimate consequence is just a made up, non-existent concept although it's clearly an inherent concept within us all.
@blattt188 I don't even remember that comment I left but I guess it got thumbed up a lot... The point of my comment was people are still quoting mining when they can easily verify the entire quote, it's the 21st century use the internet. Judging by your spam on this channel now I'm guessing you're just trolling anyone who's posted and talking about "greatest minds being God fearing and crap"...what does that have to do at all with my original post. You sir are a troll.
Man this caller is a douche. You can tell by the way he read the quote that he practiced the first part since it seems like it agrees with him. It's sad listening to him try and read the second half like he understands what it means, he cannot even pronounce most of the words.
I believe in Gravity making me a Newtonian, I also believe the earth is round making me a Pythagrian and as a believer in Earth going round Sun am also a Copernican.
I wonder if creationists' feel guilty when they pull that quote out. I mean, do they intentionally leave out the rest (and so are deliberate liars) or do they really just stop reading at the end of that sentence?
I realise this doesn't apply to creationists' who've just heard the quote from someone else, but even they should check their facts (but then, I guess they wouldn't be creationists at all if they did that).
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Question!
When the caller continues with his reading from "Origin of Species", the words are not exactly written as they are in my copy of the book. There are a few more sentences in his reading, and several of the other sentences were altered.
I checked a couple of online versions of the book, and both of them read exactly as my copy of the book does. The online versions are different than what the caller reads.
Does anybody know where I can find a version like the caller reads?
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Yep, google Atheist-experience or go on google video and find loads and loads of their episodes. Really interesting to watch; some callers are idiots though >_>
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Look up "atheist experience" on Google video, there are more than 300 90min shows on. Not all this brilliant (the callers have to help too) but I make a point to listen to it every week (they also have a podcast) in the show they mention their site where the shows are linked to from their archive.
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Even official Catholic church websites quotemine historians (Australia). There's something about religion that makes many adherents think they're by default excused for being lazy or dishonest.
Richard Dawkins did a great speech on this: /watch?v=lKFtNuGt4rw
Darwin's Evolution of the Eye is one of the most often used creationist mined quotes. There are also the Eddington Concession and Dawkins' Cambrian Explosion.
Dietseleeuw 1 month ago
and after all that James said "Well I made my point anyway"
That entire exchange after he quoted Darwin went completely over his head.
casparus52 6 months ago
At 06:20 he says - Communists, 'second word', Objectivists - can anybody tell me what that second word, is I can't make it out.
'Scientific Theory' is not a 'Theory' - to believe that is an Equivication Fallacy. A 'Scientific Theory' is an explanation which fits the facts. As such it is not 'truth' but rather an 'incomplete truth' To be 'truth' Darwin's theory would need to be proved, requiring an accurate record of every single living thing that has ever lived, which is not possible.
DontBendOverForAllah 6 months ago
@DontBendOverForAllah "Raëlians". They're a crazy religion based on the idea that the creators of humanity were a race of alien beings known as the "Elohim".
Shockna 1 month ago
@Shockna Thanks! Interesting yet another ideology that struggles with the concept of evolution.
DontBendOverForAllah 1 month ago
Did he just disprove himself?
fruitsnacksrock 7 months ago
@fruitsnacksrock Yes.
xJoeEDangerouslyx 6 months ago
this guy can barely read.
MsAnywaysthesedays 9 months ago
I just has a creatard give me this EXACT SAME quote on my profile, and I had incredible pleasure in comepletely fucking PWNING the dickhead.
There must be Creationist websites that they just list this dishonest shit and this idiots just copy and paste it, lol.
OrthodoxDarwinist 10 months ago
@OrthodoxDarwinist ha ha ha ,,,a creatard,,i fukin love it,,hope u dont mind if i nick it
stevenut88 5 months ago
@stevenut88
Lol, not at all ;) I didn't invent it though, someone else on YT did.
OrthodoxDarwinist 5 months ago
brilliant clip. especially the bit at the end about the folly of dogma (right? or am I quote mining?)
brxbrx1 10 months ago
GODdamn I love this show :)
Are there any newer episodes? because the only ones I've seen are 2008 and predating.
BillHicks420 10 months ago
@BillHicks420 BILLHICKS! did you come back to life to save us from our sins!?
itsuyo211 10 months ago
@itsuyo211 YES! That is me!
BillHicks420 10 months ago
@EvolvedSkeptic Nah, I mean Matt, not the caller, was saying that cosmology is mainstream science. Ie: a natural science. I guess i wanted to know the purpose. All natural sciences seek positive knowledge of some sort. What does cosmology seek? But also, I guess if i really cared i would look it up
Pigroota 11 months ago
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HeartbreakChronicles 11 months ago
@HeartbreakChronicles Right, you know more about reality than every scientist in this world. Because every single one of them disagrees with what you said. And that does not even put some doubt about your own thoughts in your mind? Do you realize that the computer you are looking at is a product of science? Yet when it comes to things like evolution or cosmology, you suddenly call it 'stupid'. Sorry but you are the one who is being stupid. You're ignorant, pedantic and don't understand science.
dutchbb1979 11 months ago
@dutchbb1979 sorry mate, left my youtube account on at my mates. he knows i disagree with everything he said ^^ peace.
HeartbreakChronicles 11 months ago
@HeartbreakChronicles "I am not a monkey made from atoms from a big bang or shit, that makes no sense"
Hahaha he said how can atoms make up a person.. hahahahahahahahaha. Ever wondered why your Soda bubbles?
iliveon 10 months ago
@iliveon Take a toothpick, gently scrape the inside of your cheek and look at the scrapings under a microscope. If anyone can still deny they are made of tinier building blocks after doing this experiment, they're helpless.
Joelsef2898 9 months ago
We definitely need to teach critical thinking and reading comprehension to a greater degree in public schools.
override367 11 months ago 2
Love that pwnage!!! I can't believe he kept reading. I was nearly embarrassed.
jakethewoz 1 year ago 3
@EvolvedSkeptic Oh btw. He says that cosmology is mainstrean science. Is that true? What is the teleology behind cosmology?
Pigroota 1 year ago
@EvolvedSkeptic Hahaha, I like your little rant here. Here's a quote I heard somewhere. It points to the reason why you can't debate with a backwards theist: "Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience". Thought you might like that one.
Pigroota 1 year ago
I have been waiting for someone to structure thoughts on the terms of authority based on beliefs and i don't think a better job could have been donw.
whatwayzup 1 year ago
Let see Darwin was a genius, by all means insult me by calling me a Darwinist ...
bigfatbaataed 1 year ago
The sad thing is that—even after being exposed for parroting text but not understanding it— the caller still laughs derisively and says "Oh boy, well I made my point anyway". I guess if the foundation of your world-view is a lie, then you become very good at lying.
Valelacerte 1 year ago
296 likes and 102 dislikes? It's surprising to see so many dislikes. Who are these dumb asses?
sethspeaks12 1 year ago
@sethspeaks12 People who don't like them there Darwinists and Evolutionists.
Valelacerte 1 year ago
"Well I made my point anyways".
Oh how wrong he is.
captain150 1 year ago
@captain150
He made *a* point, just not the one he thinks he has.
Hakarfox 1 year ago
@EvolvedSkeptic
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No you moron. One can argue from mainstream science like Cosmology, for example, in favor of God's existence. Use your brain a little before commenting. Seriously.
AgApE010 1 year ago
@EvolvedSkeptic
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I wasn't attempting to apply the scientific method to prove God exists. However, one can argue from mainstream science when it supports theism. Obviously you don't care to dialogue. That's fine. At least we know you're a coward and are unintellectual. I have no time for such people. Take care.
AgApE010 1 year ago
@EvolvedSkeptic
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Why don't just say you're afraid to debate me and go cower with your tail between your legs? I told you I won't argue for God's existence from the Bible. I'll argue from science and philosophy. The topic of our debate? What have you been asking for this entire time? We'll debate whether or not God exists and if faith in Him is rational and justifiable. So look me up on PalTalk; I gave you my info. If you won't, don't waste my time with anymore of your petty comments.
AgApE010 1 year ago
@EvolvedSkeptic
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Yes, a real debate. Not rhetoric, no Bible. I'm on paltalk now so hurry up. My username is disciple08. Look me up when you download it.
AgApE010 1 year ago
@EvolvedSkeptic
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How about a challenge to a debate? YouTube is hardly the right forum for such a dialogue (especially since you STILL have me blocked), so download PalTalk and we can have a real, vocal dialogue with people who can listen in. Let's see if there's any bite to all this barking...
AgApE010 1 year ago
@EvolvedSkeptic
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Classy response, worthy of Guinness, even. By the way, you coward, your comments are pending and will be posted as soon as I have the time to respond. That is, until I WOULD HAVE responded except you blocked me after your whining rant. Again, you're a coward and there is nothing evolved about your primitive mind.
AgApE010 1 year ago
It's because creationists believe that evolution will completely derail what the bible says and so they paint the scientific theory of evolution as a religion that is detrimental to their faith. Basically their holding onto dying religions and purposefully blind themselves and others.
Heyprinny 1 year ago
thumps ups if you predict what quote was going to be
atlachanacha 1 year ago 15
If there was a God my mother would not of caught me wanking into a sock in my bedroom last night.
dilwich123 1 year ago 2
Google pretty much alone shows how ridiculously ironic this guy sounds.
Sakkawokkkie 1 year ago
Wow... The guy gets it explained, in EXPLICIT detail, how his conclusion is TOTALLY and DEMONSTRABLY wrong, and yet he COMPLETELY disregards is all and leaves in a huff as if the hosts are being bullheaded for not agreeing hands down with his incomprehensibly flawed "point".
He decided that, not matter what, that bit of that quote was the linch pin in his reasons for disregarding any and all evidence in order to protect his fragile beliefs.
*face desk face desk face desk face desk*
ChainX 1 year ago 6
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"This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of Light because their deeds were evil. Anyone who does evil hates the Light and will not come in to the Light, lest his deeds be exposed. But whoever lives by the Truth comes into the Light so that it may be seen plainly, that what he has done has been done through God." -John 3:19
blattt188 1 year ago
Ever notice how atheists are arrogant and mocking? How cruel and cold their words are? What does this tell you?
blattt188 2 years ago
I just think they were angry because this guy called without even reading the text he was going to defend you know i would also have gotten angry
alexander33345 2 years ago
@blattt188
and what about the crusades, suicide bombings and witch burnings (to list a few)?
what does that tell you about religon?
xXxforkboyxXx 2 years ago
@xXxforkboyxXx That's religion, not God.
blattt188 1 year ago
@blattt188
okay then. i presume u r a christian. if you look in your bible, god kills 70,000 people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21). God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3). i can go on if you want.
xXxforkboyxXx 1 year ago
@xXxforkboyxXx I'm familiar with the history. In fact, my atheist brother & I were just discussing the subject not 1 hour ago lol. He was saying that a Holy God can not commit calamity in such a manner. I was trying to explain to him that if God is truly Holy, then everything he does is of just cause & if his understanding is perfect, we have no right to pass judgment on his wrath. He was saying how convenient my argument was & I agree, it is, why then would the liars put it in scripture?
blattt188 1 year ago
@xXxforkboyxXx God makes it clear that he is a just God so his wrath is inevitable: you sin, you die. From a human perspective, we could never understand, but that's because we know that we have no just cause to kill. If the people were killed by the ordinance of God, we can understand that they were a depraved people; they had no hope of salvation as they were totally against God. It's like God was just clearing out the useless waste(for lack of a more positive term) doubt if they went 2 Hell.
blattt188 1 year ago
@blattt188
" If the people were killed by the ordinance of God, we can understand that they were a depraved people; they had no hope of salvation as they were totally against God."
how can you think this is even slightly moral? god kills them because they dare to oppose him. why worship such a god? heck, stand up to him (if you believe he exists). he may do SOME good stuff, but thats hardly a compensation for blatant massacars.
xXxforkboyxXx 1 year ago
@blattt188
That there's something wrong with your perception?
Hakarfox 1 year ago
@Hakarfox There's nothing wrong with my perception. I'm just another hateful, wicked, selfish man in the world that's entertained by all things I know is wrong; like death & violence. Just like everybody else. For this reason, I know not to trust my perception to work alone, so I depend on the Word of God as my authority.
blattt188 1 year ago
@blattt188 Please read Faith of the Fallen by Terry Goodkind. It doesn't matter if you haven't read the rest of the series.
This is, of course, assuming Poe's Law isn't in effect here. If it is, then... well, nice job.
MarkusLMC29 1 year ago
haha....the caller said its a paradox....what a dumbass--he had no business making that impulsive phone call, he doesn't even know what a paradox is....lol what a dumbass...he sounded like a 2nd grader reading.
what a typical pussy ass christian.
Titus420ful 2 years ago 3
Hahaha I used this against my creationist bible teacher at my private high school.
The intellectual dishonesty of some people is so thick you could cut it with a chainsaw.
blackmesa31337 2 years ago
I think my favorite part is that the guy ended by saying, "well I made my point anyways."
nationofjoe 2 years ago
Typical creationist righteousness...
Acrimonator 2 years ago
DNA code is empirical proof that biological life forms are a creative product of information and language. i.e.: Nous / Logos.
(Einstein called this: "The MIND of GOD")
Mr88playmaker 2 years ago
I can easily prove that though it shows 'language', (code or crypt, would be a more accurate word, by the way), that is not proof of a sign of "intelligent design"
One simple question: what came first, the language, or the thought?
Most people blurt out in rather confident ignorance: "Thought! You have to think to design a language", failing to realize that they would not be able to form that thought without a language.
Go ahead....Try to think any thought without using any language.
Titus420ful 2 years ago
Nobody can answer the language-thought question, that is the point. (Think chicken and egg, but much more eloquent) Language is needed to formulate thought, and thought is needed to formulate language. It is a cycle that facilitates itself, ad infinitum.
'Language' or code is not a sign of 'intelligence.' It IS, however--just as DNA clearly demonstrates--a part of nature.
It is a form of communication between material masses that possess what we call 'life', THATS IT!!
Titus420ful 2 years ago
No it is not, because you cant prove that it acutally did come from a mind.. Surely it could have been made by Aliens aswell as God... or maybe it just is the nature of the chemestry of our world...
Just because we find a delicate part of our world, and then you assume its from a mind, yet you have not seen it come from a mind.
Its like walking in the forest and finding a rock and then you say, "Ahh there must be rockmakers here somewhere"
AnimusRat 2 years ago
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(A) Information is: the communication or reception of knowledge or intelligence.
(B) Information exist independent of its medium.
(the same information can be stored in one's mind, expressed verbally, written on paper, typed on a computer etc.)
(C) Code = Language. Language originates in a MIND.
There ore only two types of language known to man: (1) That of human mind origin (2) DNA code.
Information is not matter or energy.
Language is not matter or energy.
Mr88playmaker 2 years ago
Took people ages to get over the fact the some of the early greek scientists were wrong.
funkynosejob 2 years ago
What I hate is those damn Newtonists, GRAVITY DOESN'T EXIST!
Experiment47 2 years ago
I disagree, relativist are worst, they eat babies...
Acrimonator 2 years ago
Check this out!!! While all you people are fighting and arguing over subjects that will never win anyone over... There is a group of people who are sticking "it" right up your A... By passing bills into laws that will force you to do their will... Higher taxes, loss of freedom of speech, inflation on a scale never seen before etc... They have you right where they want you, fighting, arguing and divided... Next comes the vaseline... Wake up, there is more important issues
jrlsagejr 2 years ago
0:30-0:43 "i just want to get this one quote out, to people who are believers of Darwins theory, 'cause they probably doesn't know this quote Darwin had about human eye"
That just too damn ironic... I wonder how many "believers of Darwins theory" didn't know what was coming next, or strictly speaking what didn't come...
atlachannel 2 years ago
Yeah, I think everyone knew exactly what quote he was going to say.
CENSOREDFORSEX 2 years ago
I love how he gets owned.
Hunter1990 2 years ago 2
lolololololololololol,,,,,
ZerqTM 2 years ago
Q, What do you call a clump of creationists?
A, A thicket.
MarcusCardiff 2 years ago 2
The problem with darwinism is that Darwin purpose a linear evolution when evolution as nothing to do with time nor history.
Evolution is when you agree with your acts.
adevezar 2 years ago
Darwinism is politically control of human population.
Malthusians policies of population control are based in darwinism.
adevezar 2 years ago
They always own the callers yet no caller ever admits they got owned... So very frustrating, but we must never give up the fight!
ndyt 2 years ago 2
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no wonder people can't take serious he always wears that stupid hat
KIMBOSLICE66666 2 years ago
Glasser cuts off Matt to take take the moral high ground and point out that he didn't accuse the caller of lying: leaving the caller to sign off with the impression that his interpretation of the Darwin quote was true and that Glasser agrees!! Why did he do this? Because he was more intent on criticizing the use of Darwinism than the misquote. Someone, please, smack him; make sure he's awake before he responds. (okay, i know the best of debaters do this from time to time, still...)
Blackmark52 2 years ago
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PurushaDesa 2 years ago
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heyawhaw 2 years ago
Thanks votebots for highlighting another excellent video 5 stars and excellent channel which has of course I have subscribed too.
Alfred Russel Wallace also worked out the theory of evolution independently do the term Darwinist is only used by idiots. Evolutionist is also idiotic term do we call people gravitationalist, heliocentralist...etc?
DontBendOverForAllah 3 years ago 16
@DontBendOverForAllah Why then do people dedicate so much time attempting to destroy the sustaining faith of people who's God doesn't even exist? Just because you hate the thought of admitting to your wickedness doesn't mean you should waste time hating a good God. This life is all you get, so stop wasting so much time on a non-existent god and start living it up.
blattt188 1 year ago
@blattt188 I don't 'hate' anything. btw thanks for reminding me of the Alfred Russel Wallace reference I had forgotten that, it clearly debunks the term 'Darwinist'.
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The other mistake often made (even by Scientists sometimes) is that his Scientific Theory was called 'The Origin of Species by Natural Selection' not the 'Theory of Evolution' so 'Evolutionist' is also wrong. 'Natural Selectionist' would be the accurate term, however that is never used as everybody knows that happens.
DontBendOverForAllah 1 year ago
@DontBendOverForAllah Natural selection doesn't change species into other species & it doesn't make sub-species become more complex. No matter how much time passes, it just doesn't happen. Evolution is crap. Nothing in the world supports evolution except for empty human reasoning. Things don't become more complex. In fact, everything tends toward disorder & it's the same on every scale. This universe, without an intelligent cause would be one big illusion.
blattt188 1 year ago
@DontBendOverForAllah Heh, Dawkins often uses terms "darwinist" and "darwinian".
Grey13Human 6 months ago
@Grey13Human And Pat Condell says 'God Bless Atheism' it's called being Ironic. The Theory (ie explanation for different species) is 'natural selection' so the correct phrase would be 'Natural Selectionist' not 'Darwinist' or 'Evolutionist'
DontBendOverForAllah 6 months ago
***** stars! Great vid as always..
michaelmaage 3 years ago
5 stars bitches. Votebot=Fail
erdnallewen 3 years ago 3
These guys are just plain entertaining.
Have the Vogons arrived yet?
D1G3T5 3 years ago
5 starred! Take that votebots!
MTGandP 3 years ago 4
take that votebot, a five star attack.
lordofthepies7 3 years ago 2
Really..will they ever learn to stop quote mining? It's really getting old. The beauty of science is it is an open forum if these douche bags who believe this (god) crap ever look it up. For fuck's sake it's the 21st century use the damn internet.
Brewhahh 3 years ago 24
They'll stop quote mining when Hell freezes over. Hell doesn't exist, of course, so don't hold your breath.
DooMDrat 2 years ago 3
@Brewhahh Does it really matter? The greatest minds in history were God fearing people, but as long as man loves his sin, man will hate God. Then nothing else really matters. Even is science rules out "chance" as a reasonable explanation for the universe, proud man will move on to something new to convince themselves that ultimate consequence is just a made up, non-existent concept although it's clearly an inherent concept within us all.
blattt188 1 year ago
@blattt188 I don't even remember that comment I left but I guess it got thumbed up a lot... The point of my comment was people are still quoting mining when they can easily verify the entire quote, it's the 21st century use the internet. Judging by your spam on this channel now I'm guessing you're just trolling anyone who's posted and talking about "greatest minds being God fearing and crap"...what does that have to do at all with my original post. You sir are a troll.
Brewhahh 1 year ago
5 stared, may the flying spaghetti monster bless this video with his noodly appendage.
Tigerf0x 3 years ago 3
MLP: Major League Pwnage... -headdesk- it sounded better in my head
Teirusu155 3 years ago
5 stars
razzcer 3 years ago
Another 5* from me...FUCK VOTEBOTS!
dustinbowls76 3 years ago 3
I've done my part with 5 stars. Fuck votebots!
deicidalistic 3 years ago 2
Also,i'm sick of seeing people using the same quote time after time! It's so lame & sheep come to mind. Lame sheep creationist votebots! :)
musicgeniusno1 3 years ago 2
5 stars from youtubebotattack(dot)tk
musicgeniusno1 3 years ago 2
rocked
drakesCorner 3 years ago
Good video keep reason clean from the creationist who try to piss in the pool of knowledge.
THADI0US 3 years ago
5 stars from youtubebotattack(dot)tk
godlessmessiah 3 years ago
5 stars from botattackhelper(dot)tk
horseplay44554 3 years ago 2
Wow creationist you are so honest and mature.
Im sure god is proud that you break youtube's policy's and rules, very proud.
Instead of refutation you resort to act's of dishonesty.
THADI0US 3 years ago 4
5* from botattackhelper(dot)tk
botattackhelper 3 years ago 2
5 Stars :)
th3d3wd3r 3 years ago 2
5 Stars. awesome show
dayumthem01 3 years ago 2
5* from youtubebotattack(dot)tk
catsandhippos 3 years ago 2
5 stars from youtubebotattack(dot)tk
jassi4010709 3 years ago 2
5* from youtubebotattack(dot)tk
BotAttack 3 years ago 2
Man this caller is a douche. You can tell by the way he read the quote that he practiced the first part since it seems like it agrees with him. It's sad listening to him try and read the second half like he understands what it means, he cannot even pronounce most of the words.
imnoromeo 3 years ago
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lmao, "What does he say after that?"
RaymondCorrigan 3 years ago
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I believe in Gravity making me a Newtonian, I also believe the earth is round making me a Pythagrian and as a believer in Earth going round Sun am also a Copernican.
xdir 3 years ago
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I wonder if creationists' feel guilty when they pull that quote out. I mean, do they intentionally leave out the rest (and so are deliberate liars) or do they really just stop reading at the end of that sentence?
I realise this doesn't apply to creationists' who've just heard the quote from someone else, but even they should check their facts (but then, I guess they wouldn't be creationists at all if they did that).
sam51092 3 years ago
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fucking owned. owned. lol!
xOpenMindedx 3 years ago
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Every video from A.E. convinces me further that
jesus is worst then drugs.
ltbelial 3 years ago
What a fucking chunder-monkey, I read a bunch of stuff I don't understand but you don't need to be so smart to get the concept of devils advocate.
clawdfrawg 3 years ago
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Lol
kubiczech25 3 years ago
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I love Matt's hat.
Pirwzwhomper 3 years ago
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"I proved my point."
Yes, you did. That you're a damn retard! Yehey!
2timmy4u 3 years ago
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Don't worry, we all die regardless of how we perceive "TRUTH". There is no need to get bent out of shape about any of this....
G0dspelronin 3 years ago
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Question!
When the caller continues with his reading from "Origin of Species", the words are not exactly written as they are in my copy of the book. There are a few more sentences in his reading, and several of the other sentences were altered.
I checked a couple of online versions of the book, and both of them read exactly as my copy of the book does. The online versions are different than what the caller reads.
Does anybody know where I can find a version like the caller reads?
bigduggieface 3 years ago
(con't) By the way, this quote is found about halfway into Chapter 6 of "The Origin of Species".
bigduggieface 3 years ago
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Darwin came out with several revisions of his book.
majorvoltage 3 years ago
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Yep, google Atheist-experience or go on google video and find loads and loads of their episodes. Really interesting to watch; some callers are idiots though >_>
BradleySandell 3 years ago
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Yes! Please keep posting these!!!
DblOSmith 3 years ago
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Who are these guys? Do they have a youtube page? How can I see them?
DblOSmith 3 years ago
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Look up "atheist experience" on Google video, there are more than 300 90min shows on. Not all this brilliant (the callers have to help too) but I make a point to listen to it every week (they also have a podcast) in the show they mention their site where the shows are linked to from their archive.
Cafeeine 3 years ago
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Sweet! If you post them, I will watch. :)
DblOSmith 3 years ago 2
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These are great guys!
DblOSmith 3 years ago
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Over two thousand years of religious brainwashing has led it`s flock right back to the dark ages of believing in the delusional supernatural.
maurieer 3 years ago
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Every creationist retard should watch this video. 5/5
isreasontaboo 3 years ago
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Even official Catholic church websites quotemine historians (Australia). There's something about religion that makes many adherents think they're by default excused for being lazy or dishonest.
blackwolf1272 3 years ago
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Damn it. These tards never learn to KEEP READING THE REST OF THE DAMN QUOTE.
MagnusIan 3 years ago
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pwnt
superfisto 3 years ago