No offense but it was your fault! If you are not able to close windows, doors and toilets you better stay away from birds. It is immoral to mutilate a healthy bird. It's always the same ... the bird has to suffer because of the thoughtlessness of their owner.
@coocoobird100 Me. 1 foot onto a soft bed. The fail is him trying to fly directly out of my hand before I got there, so he bounced off the bed. It was unintentional but I thought it was a good demo of how out of control his flight was.
@jase123111 Shut up.. People clip birds wings so they will be able to take them out withought them running into walls. Even so, wings can grow back. It's like cutting of kids toe nails. They didn't like it at first but it does no harm. And they do grow back. :P
besides, it's not like the feathers are gone forever. They grow back. It's like getting a haircut. Sometimes it's good for your hair. It might be the same for birds, so they get fresh feathers.
@linnieworld It's true though. My bird is starting to fly again now, and the fathers are looking better..........and alot of people say it's like getting a haircut, not just me.
To compare wing clipping with a haircut is nonsense. People forget that hair grows back immediately and people do not need their hair for movement. First the feather has to fall out until it grows back. This takes time ... often many months. In this time the bird is not able to navigate. Many clipped birds are harmed because they tumble down (but nobody tells about accidents caused by the human hand).
I think that taking the flight from a bird is wrong, but in most bird's cases it is for the greater good. My parakeet would crash into wals, windows, etc. and we have two dogs...my brother comes in my room without knocking 90% and I am usually playing with my bird. He has flown out twice due to the door opening, and it wasn't fun trying to catch him, Now, I can train him easier, spend more time with him, and be able to bond. Plus, we can outside now! I can take him outside of my room with eas.
I really like the video! You show how people cut it wrong and how to do it right. And to everyone saying clipping a birds wings is wrong some birds need it. The button quail NEEDS it or they will fly up and crash into anything in there path. Some pass out after hit and crash back to the ground afterward. So you pick , gliding around or suffering Brain damage.
It is totally wrong to clip a birds wings and very cruel. It may not hurt the bird physically, but sure does mentally. Why don't we cut off the legs of our dogs and cats (under anesthetic so not to hurt them). They they can not run out of the door and get lost, or run over by a car, if people want a bird build it a large aviary and get it a partner and let them enjoy their flying about. If breaks my heart seeing birds in cages, clipped wings, no other birds for company.
After clipping my budgies wings for the first time upset me. Once you see the way it crash lands to the ground will make you think again. Do what you want with your lifeless bird tho it won't happen again with mine.
I recently got a pair of parakeets, and I clipped their wings myself. Those who think wing clipping is immoral... they both flew around and into walls and windows full force a couple times. So I clipped them just enough so they couldn't fly up, but they could still glide and land safely. Now, would you rather I let them kill themselves by flying into crap? Or Should I just keep them in their cage forever and not have to worry about it? You people make me laugh.
Yes, this is the way to do it! There seems to some controversy on how to do this. As the video shows, some clip the inner flight feathers. I have done this, and as the video shows, they fall to the ground like a rock. But if you cut the first two or three tip feathers, the bird has more control and can still fly pretty good.....
@philwww Umm, yes there obviously is some controversy as we are arguing about it. Also, you give no premises to the conclusion of your argument. I'm curious, why are you against the clipping of bird's wings?
@philwww Umm, yes there obviously is some controversy as we are arguing about it. Also, you give no premises to the conclusion of your argument. I'm curious, why are you against the clipping of bird's wings?
I love to watch my budgies fly but when I have to chase them around for a half hour after breakfast when I'm late for work (they get so cocky when they can fly)--that's not cool. Thanks for the excellent, informative video.
Wing clipping is detrimental to your birds cardiovascular muscle development and they are more at risk of keel bone injury during a crash landing because they cant save themselves. Clipping is immoral!! Would you cut off your dogs legs to stop him escaping? Just be more careful in doors shut windows and doors etc... and you wont need to mutilate your bird.
Naturally it is okay to put a leash on your dog. Cutting off his legs was not a good comparison. I can understand the thoughts of Pookspoons because wing clipping is like a surgery ... it is done directly on the bird's body. I regret that wing clipping is usual in many so called "civilized" countries, because it is a fact that clipping is a mutilation of healthy birds. A well done bird attitude is practised without using scissors! Pls excuse if my English is not good ... I'm German.
@linnieworld The fact is that sometimes it improves the bird's situation, and sometimes it doesn't. My point was that if it's done correctly, birds can still use their wings to get around. And correctly is NOT the way they do it at most pet stores when you see birds with severe clips.
@Pookspoons i have to disagree. i have never clipped my cockatiels wings, but they are clipped right now because he is a baby and his breeder did it before i got him. HE CAN FLY FINE! he just can not get very high. he more or less glides down to the ground. although he is very clumsy(all babies are), he has never crash landed. clipping the wings can save you bird! from sliding glass doors, stove tops, sinks, toilets, you name it. accidents can happen, and its best to try and prevent them.
@Pookspoons and it is not hurting the bird. it is the same feeling and cutting your hair, granted you are doing it properly and not clipping blood feathers. my bird is perfectly content with having his wings clipped. he can fly from the top of his cage to the floor or the couch, and from there he climbs walks where he is trying to get. he is actually really good at it!
@Pookspoons Oh my lord. I work at a vet clinic and it is done routinely and if it was such a bad thing or a risk to the bird it would not be done by vets. The veterinary Surgeoans board would not allow it just like tail docking in WA. if you don't like it dont watch it.
Wing clipping is detrimental to your birds cardiovascular muscle development and they are more at risk of keel bone injury during a crash landing because they cant save themselves. Clipping is immoral!! Would you cut off your dogs legs to stop him escaping? Just be more careful in doors shut windows and doors etc... and you wont need to mutilate your bird.
I think this is as stupid as putting a electric collar on your dog.
It stops the dog from barking/ it FORCES the bird to stay at your side, instead of actually putting some time and effort to train and spend time with your animal.
Instead of clipping its wings, you could really just not use the fan or cook while the bird is in the same room. We cage our birds when the stove is on, or when we need to get some fresh air. That small amout of time is nothing compared to months of flightlessness.
@Daniellaofsweden Errr i know that but my one flew for the first time and got stuck behind my cabinet so i lifted the cabinet up and the bird went under the cabinet the cabinet was really really heavy and i could not hold it no longer and ma bird died :( :'(
do you know how to clip their wings so that they fall slowly to the floor instead of forward? i clipped my bird enough that he can fly but not lift but ended up flying into a mirror and even on a pot on a stove (luckily the stove was off so he was fine). so i want to clip it in a way that he slowly "floats" down instead of forwardso he can be safe and i can catch him easily. i havent let him out for a while except in a corner of a room where he definitely wont fall or hit anything
well i dont think it is right to get the wings clipping in are budgie i have are budgie i have had him 1 and half years when i let him out i keep him in the one room and he is ok he sit alot beacuse he likes to sit on me talk singing and he sits up high but i think it is are bad way beacuse all brids like to fly have fun
@ALLYBALLYALLY clipping is for temporarily preventing them from escape until it trusts you. once it does then letting it fly is easier. i had a bird who couldnt fly for a year until it trusted us and after that he could fly all he wants all over the house
@NarutoFan9342 I have found that they are less likely to fly into a wall at high speed when their wings are properly clipped. This is because they have much more flight control, and they are not stupid enough to voluntarily fly into a wall. I think they actually fly slower when they have control than when they are just flapping desperately with a bad clip.
@zenologue Yeah, I agree about the clipping, but my bird (and many others of which I've heard on the internet) are running into walls at very high speeds and hurting themselves a lot. I have only let my bird out one time and he hit the wall 4 times very hard. I'm afraid to let him out again before I get his wings clipped so I was just looking for some tips. Thank you :)
@NarutoFan9342 If your bird is freaking out and flying into the wall, you should not be taking him out. You should train him to sit on your finger first. If your bird is not freaking out but flying into the wall anyway, I don't know what to say. It's possible he doesn't know how to fly or something.
@cadoo1998 Yes, pulling feathers does hurt! Feathers should never be pulled unless there is a medical reason. Nothing makes feathers grow faster-- only good nutrition and proper care will have them looking best. If you're asking this because the feathers are already missing, because the bird is pulling them out himself, or any other reason, GO TO AN AVIAN VETERINARIAN!
@cadoo1998 DONT PULL an if you clip your birds wings mine specifically is a blue an gold macaw an a hyacinth macaw it takes about a month for their wings to grow back its about the same for smaller breeds to
In Sweden there is a law against clipping your pet birds wings. It falls under animal cruelty. I doubt that this law would be there if no harm comes to the birds.
@Milltify I am not sure that's accurate with regard to feathers. I think that it is illegal to clip dog ears and dock tails, so perhaps it is illegal to clip the wings in a similar surgical manner (pinioning).
@zenologue The first method seemed to allow the bird to control his rate of descent, however clumsily. With the second, the bird was able to actually gain altitude. If you did not intend to portray it this way, please, modify the video or re-do it.
@relussier The video illustrates that proper clipping offers more control, which is the point. I am not going to re-do the video because I should have defined "lift" better. Further, if you were to toss a ball in the way Zafu was tossed onto the bed, it would demonstrate as much "control" as you seem to think the bird demonstrates.
If my video is unsatisfactory to you, do feel free to make your own.
i'm really scared of clipping my parakeet's wings I love those 2 to death and I don't have any experience clipping them can someone give me step by step instructions and also when they struggle out of my grip it makes me sad :(
what can I do if I buy a bird with clipped wings (done right and looks exactly like yours) and I want it to fly? I heard that you have to pull off the clipped feather so it grows back and fully formed but mine is a baby.And do you cut it or pull tha feather and when?
@thebluekid302 No need to pull feathers! They fall out on their own. The only problem I had was when one feather would grow out first and stick out so far that it broke and bled when the bird vigorously flapped. In this case I did an intermediate clip (longer, but still clipped) to prevent breakage until all the feathers grew out more. The broken/bleeding feathers had to be pulled out. Please go to an avian vet to learn how to clip or pull feathers if you are going to do that.
Personally, I can't imagine ever clipping my pet bird's wings. In a small place, I can make it safe for the bird to fly free by covering the windows and mirrors, and would have no ceiling fans (or just one that the birds have fun riding; I've done that before.) If I could afford a big place with vaulted ceilings and chandeliers, I could afford an aviary for my birds. It never seemed to me that clipping wings is the best solution for budgies (larger birds like parrots and cockatoos I might.)
@featherwinglove An aviary would definitley be the optimal solution, but it's not always a practical one. I've had birds on and off for over 20 years. The scariest thing to me is when a bird falls behind something-- or heaven forbid INTO something. Unfortunately, curtains and sheets don't do much for that kind of danger.
Sorry messed up im on an ipad hard to type :) but anyway what weve done is take animals from the wild at some point in time and put them in our villiges or wherever and we tamed them as much as we could we then bred them for size shape color attitude ext we have mutated animals to live with us and because of this it is up to us to take care of them taking a none demesticated animal out of his known "safe" life is cruel wether thats taking a wild animal in ot putting a demesticated animal out wh
@DAVIDTV101 The staff in most pet shops have no clue how to do it properly. And they may not admit that they don't know, because that looks bad for the business. You may have better luck at pet shops that ONLY work with birds. The best thing is to find your local avian vets... call them and ask if they can show you how.
@TheSiday Yes. I don't know how I live with myself, tossing my bird a foot and a half onto a bed. And my bird clearly can't live with himself either, as he has so often jumped on his own, crash-landing on the hard floor several feet below because of his overly-clipped wings, tweeting ironically happy tweets the whole time. Those happy tweets are so tragic. I should really warn people about what happens when someone over-clips a bird's wings. It's sad.
@TheSiday Seriously though, Zafu fell off the bed because he jumped out of my hands before I even did anything-- you can see that my hand is nowhere in the Take Two shot. I was just lucky he landed in front of the camera so it was caught on video. It was better than any demo I could have artificially constructed!
@zenologue Still though, you'd have to admit, a clip like Zafu's is probably more dangerous than no clip at all in a typical apartment. I wouldn't let Zafu out of his cage like that! Going for the secondaries also increases the risk of hitting the patapagium behind the humerus, which would almost certainly be fatal. I saw a wild crow with an asymetric molt, stalled his left wing every other flap, but knew how to recover well; it was almost comical.
@featherwinglove Yeah, the "wrong" of Zafu's cut is the point of the video. When I was young, I had birds that came with clipped wings and was horrified at their lack of flight control. I resolved that wing clipping was cruel and inhumane. It wasn't until years later that I discovered the problem was they, like Zafu, had inappropriately butchered wings and that there was a better way.
sometimes the wing is kinda hard to clip, do i still cut through it? (yess i only cut the flight feathers, and ive done it once, but the last feather got hard)
@Venatici82 The entire point of this video is to demonstrate how feathers can be trimmed in such a way that the birds can still use the force of air against their feathers to control their motion through the air (a process also known as "flying around").
@Venatici82 Look, I get how you feel about letting birds be birds, but please don't pretend I'm doing this for my own convenience. If it were that, I'd leave them in the cage! Houses and furniture are designed for humans, not for birds, so please also don't pretend that it's more "natural" for birds to have free reign in a house. If you want your birds to be "natural," take them to Australia and let them out.
@Venatici82 Your comment is rather ironic. I clip feathers so that I can let them free to fly around and get more exercise on their play-tree without worrying about them. It's really nice how independent they are of me. They eat strawberries and play with their chew toys most of the day.
@zenologue But still: You take away their born right to fly. If you don't have a safe home for birds, why have them at all? It's selfish to take away their instincts just so you can handle them how you want. That "friendship" is based on abuse, not trust. I have two budgies who live free in the house with their ability to fly and they are very tame and there has never been any accidents.
@Venatici82 Clipping wings helps to keep the birds safe and fly without the possibility of hurting them. Clipping wings DOES NOT take the birds ability to fly away, it just censors it a little to keep them safe.Isn't that what we want for our budgies? Every home, no matter how safe you feel it is and how many things you do to make it safe, can completely protect a budgie. Accidents happen no matter how safe a home is and from what I see, zenologue is raising their budgies beautifully.
If you want them to be so "natural" don't even have them as pets! Wing clipping is almost 100% needed! They can fly too high with their whole wings, fall down from a really high place and get seriously injured, fall into a pot of boiling water, land into your window and leave poop, or just pretty much escape! :S
Obviously you don't know what you're talking about...
@Venatici82 Clipping a birds wings is pretty much like keeping a dog or a cat indoors. If you don't want to clip your bird's wings, fine. don't. but being rude on other peoples videos will NOT help at all. If you took a bird from the wild and clipped it's wings. THAT would be cruel. because they need their wings to survive. but captive birds don't really need their wings if you are a good bird owner and give them everything they need. It's the owners choice.
Yeah. With a normal trim (like the blue budgie has), the feathers will be back fairly quickly. The white budgie's cut was so severe that it's taken over a year for him to be able to start growing his primaries without risk of them breaking when he flaps.
Yes, usually. Birds shed and re-grow feathers kind of like mammals shed and re-grow hairs. Feathers are much more complicated and take much longer to grow, however.
I'm a veterinary technician and everybody PLEASE take your bird to the vet for at LEAST the first time. The vet will let you know if you are ready to cut on your own. A lot of people think they know what they're doing and then they cut secondary's or blood feathers, or injure the bird during restraint. BE CAREFUL.
I just got a budgie, and her feathers had been cut too short. She can't make it much further than 3 feet before quickly dropping to the ground. She's nervous to begin with, and suddenly falling to the ground all the time doesn't help. I would much rather have a budgie that doesn't need to be carried everywhere, and I think my budgie agrees.
@pencilluna10 . I started out cutting 4 feathers on each wing. After my budgies got used to that and their wings got stronger (they will flap harder with clipped wings), I started clipping 5 feathers on each wing. Never clip any feathers that are still growing, or your bird can bleed very badly! If you don't know how to tell which feathers are still growing, DO NOT clip your bird by yourself-- get help from someone who knows how to do it.
Thank you! We just got cockatiel, we weren't sure if wings were properly cut, because she can still fly. This showed they did do it right. (I just don't know why I can't find a store willing to cut her wings!)
An avian vet would be able to show you how to clip the wings yourself. Typically, the outer (primary) long flight feathers are cut so they're flush with the medium-sized feathers above them. Only feathers that are fully grown in and hollow (no longer filled with blood) should ever be cut.
ohhh i get it! thanks it makes alot more sense now! i thought you acually THREW the bird!! lol
coocoobird100 1 week ago
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No offense but it was your fault! If you are not able to close windows, doors and toilets you better stay away from birds. It is immoral to mutilate a healthy bird. It's always the same ... the bird has to suffer because of the thoughtlessness of their owner.
linnieworld 1 week ago
the fail is sad.... who the heck would literaly throw the bird?!?
coocoobird100 1 week ago
@coocoobird100 Me. 1 foot onto a soft bed. The fail is him trying to fly directly out of my hand before I got there, so he bounced off the bed. It was unintentional but I thought it was a good demo of how out of control his flight was.
zenologue 1 week ago
Okay this is sooooo weird. My budgies is blue and white pied, and they look identical to the ones in the video.
hangingwithstupid 2 weeks ago
@hangingwithstupid Cool :)
zenologue 1 week ago
@Applo101 Maybe. But they won't grow back if you cut the first flight feathers.
AngelSparksTheEevee 1 month ago
@jase123111 Shut up.. People clip birds wings so they will be able to take them out withought them running into walls. Even so, wings can grow back. It's like cutting of kids toe nails. They didn't like it at first but it does no harm. And they do grow back. :P
AngelSparksTheEevee 1 month ago
@AngelSparksTheEevee I couldn't agree more!
CannibalUnicorn123 1 week ago
besides, it's not like the feathers are gone forever. They grow back. It's like getting a haircut. Sometimes it's good for your hair. It might be the same for birds, so they get fresh feathers.
CannibalUnicorn123 1 month ago
@CannibalUnicorn123
Please don't be so stupid to compare hair with feathers ^^ Or do you move with your hair?
linnieworld 1 week ago
@linnieworld It's true though. My bird is starting to fly again now, and the fathers are looking better..........and alot of people say it's like getting a haircut, not just me.
CannibalUnicorn123 1 week ago
@CannibalUnicorn123
To compare wing clipping with a haircut is nonsense. People forget that hair grows back immediately and people do not need their hair for movement. First the feather has to fall out until it grows back. This takes time ... often many months. In this time the bird is not able to navigate. Many clipped birds are harmed because they tumble down (but nobody tells about accidents caused by the human hand).
linnieworld 22 hours ago
I think that taking the flight from a bird is wrong, but in most bird's cases it is for the greater good. My parakeet would crash into wals, windows, etc. and we have two dogs...my brother comes in my room without knocking 90% and I am usually playing with my bird. He has flown out twice due to the door opening, and it wasn't fun trying to catch him, Now, I can train him easier, spend more time with him, and be able to bond. Plus, we can outside now! I can take him outside of my room with eas.
CannibalUnicorn123 1 month ago
@codeythesilent haha totally right
fishyboy0921 3 months ago
I really like the video! You show how people cut it wrong and how to do it right. And to everyone saying clipping a birds wings is wrong some birds need it. The button quail NEEDS it or they will fly up and crash into anything in there path. Some pass out after hit and crash back to the ground afterward. So you pick , gliding around or suffering Brain damage.
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It is totally wrong to clip a birds wings and very cruel. It may not hurt the bird physically, but sure does mentally. Why don't we cut off the legs of our dogs and cats (under anesthetic so not to hurt them). They they can not run out of the door and get lost, or run over by a car, if people want a bird build it a large aviary and get it a partner and let them enjoy their flying about. If breaks my heart seeing birds in cages, clipped wings, no other birds for company.
jase123111 3 months ago
Both birds look ugly with clipped wings. Wing clipping is done by people who don't have the time to tame their bird.
vilashini8 4 months ago
After clipping my budgies wings for the first time upset me. Once you see the way it crash lands to the ground will make you think again. Do what you want with your lifeless bird tho it won't happen again with mine.
eazyone23 4 months ago
@eazyone23 you should really only clip 3 minimum then one extra each time until it can descend safely
krayolaLive 3 months ago
I recently got a pair of parakeets, and I clipped their wings myself. Those who think wing clipping is immoral... they both flew around and into walls and windows full force a couple times. So I clipped them just enough so they couldn't fly up, but they could still glide and land safely. Now, would you rather I let them kill themselves by flying into crap? Or Should I just keep them in their cage forever and not have to worry about it? You people make me laugh.
codeythesilent 4 months ago 7
Birds wings should not be clipped.
philwww 5 months ago
Yes, this is the way to do it! There seems to some controversy on how to do this. As the video shows, some clip the inner flight feathers. I have done this, and as the video shows, they fall to the ground like a rock. But if you cut the first two or three tip feathers, the bird has more control and can still fly pretty good.....
bourquechris 5 months ago
@bourquechris There is no controversy, you should not clip a birds wings, end of story.
philwww 5 months ago
@philwww Umm, yes there obviously is some controversy as we are arguing about it. Also, you give no premises to the conclusion of your argument. I'm curious, why are you against the clipping of bird's wings?
bourquechris 5 months ago
@philwww Umm, yes there obviously is some controversy as we are arguing about it. Also, you give no premises to the conclusion of your argument. I'm curious, why are you against the clipping of bird's wings?
bourquechris 5 months ago
I love to watch my budgies fly but when I have to chase them around for a half hour after breakfast when I'm late for work (they get so cocky when they can fly)--that's not cool. Thanks for the excellent, informative video.
bourquechris 5 months ago
Wing clipping is detrimental to your birds cardiovascular muscle development and they are more at risk of keel bone injury during a crash landing because they cant save themselves. Clipping is immoral!! Would you cut off your dogs legs to stop him escaping? Just be more careful in doors shut windows and doors etc... and you wont need to mutilate your bird.
Pookspoons 5 months ago
@Pookspoons The whole point of the video is to let people know that trimming wings IMPROPERLY causes them to crash land.
And no, I don't cut off my dog's legs, but I do put him on a leash!
zenologue 5 months ago 14
@zenologue
Naturally it is okay to put a leash on your dog. Cutting off his legs was not a good comparison. I can understand the thoughts of Pookspoons because wing clipping is like a surgery ... it is done directly on the bird's body. I regret that wing clipping is usual in many so called "civilized" countries, because it is a fact that clipping is a mutilation of healthy birds. A well done bird attitude is practised without using scissors! Pls excuse if my English is not good ... I'm German.
linnieworld 1 week ago
@linnieworld The fact is that sometimes it improves the bird's situation, and sometimes it doesn't. My point was that if it's done correctly, birds can still use their wings to get around. And correctly is NOT the way they do it at most pet stores when you see birds with severe clips.
zenologue 1 week ago
@Pookspoons Parakeets feathers grow back, legs don't. Your argument is invalid.
physchohead24 5 months ago 3
@Pookspoons i have to disagree. i have never clipped my cockatiels wings, but they are clipped right now because he is a baby and his breeder did it before i got him. HE CAN FLY FINE! he just can not get very high. he more or less glides down to the ground. although he is very clumsy(all babies are), he has never crash landed. clipping the wings can save you bird! from sliding glass doors, stove tops, sinks, toilets, you name it. accidents can happen, and its best to try and prevent them.
cheatsenabledtrue 4 months ago 2
@Pookspoons and it is not hurting the bird. it is the same feeling and cutting your hair, granted you are doing it properly and not clipping blood feathers. my bird is perfectly content with having his wings clipped. he can fly from the top of his cage to the floor or the couch, and from there he climbs walks where he is trying to get. he is actually really good at it!
cheatsenabledtrue 4 months ago
@Pookspoons Oh my lord. I work at a vet clinic and it is done routinely and if it was such a bad thing or a risk to the bird it would not be done by vets. The veterinary Surgeoans board would not allow it just like tail docking in WA. if you don't like it dont watch it.
firedream5 2 months ago
Wing clipping is detrimental to your birds cardiovascular muscle development and they are more at risk of keel bone injury during a crash landing because they cant save themselves. Clipping is immoral!! Would you cut off your dogs legs to stop him escaping? Just be more careful in doors shut windows and doors etc... and you wont need to mutilate your bird.
Pookspoons 5 months ago
I think this is as stupid as putting a electric collar on your dog.
It stops the dog from barking/ it FORCES the bird to stay at your side, instead of actually putting some time and effort to train and spend time with your animal.
Instead of clipping its wings, you could really just not use the fan or cook while the bird is in the same room. We cage our birds when the stove is on, or when we need to get some fresh air. That small amout of time is nothing compared to months of flightlessness.
Daniellaofsweden 6 months ago
@Daniellaofsweden Errr i know that but my one flew for the first time and got stuck behind my cabinet so i lifted the cabinet up and the bird went under the cabinet the cabinet was really really heavy and i could not hold it no longer and ma bird died :( :'(
n9fear778 6 months ago
thanks for telling me the difference
arianaab123 6 months ago
I really liked your video and I thought the music was great!
Notsosof1 6 months ago
It's better if my budgies never fly to my hand than a single day with their wings clipped and period. :)
volumetwoooo 6 months ago
do you know how to clip their wings so that they fall slowly to the floor instead of forward? i clipped my bird enough that he can fly but not lift but ended up flying into a mirror and even on a pot on a stove (luckily the stove was off so he was fine). so i want to clip it in a way that he slowly "floats" down instead of forwardso he can be safe and i can catch him easily. i havent let him out for a while except in a corner of a room where he definitely wont fall or hit anything
mafrek 6 months ago
well i dont think it is right to get the wings clipping in are budgie i have are budgie i have had him 1 and half years when i let him out i keep him in the one room and he is ok he sit alot beacuse he likes to sit on me talk singing and he sits up high but i think it is are bad way beacuse all brids like to fly have fun
ALLYBALLYALLY 7 months ago
@ALLYBALLYALLY clipping is for temporarily preventing them from escape until it trusts you. once it does then letting it fly is easier. i had a bird who couldnt fly for a year until it trusted us and after that he could fly all he wants all over the house
mafrek 6 months ago
Thanks for the video! Good visual example!
stickysponge 8 months ago
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Srry this video don't show a thing! Just dumb music and stuff not to be mean. And nice bird
puppy5115 9 months ago
Srry this video don't show a thing! Just dumb music and stuff not to be mean. And nice bird
puppy5115 9 months ago
if its clipped wrong, the feathers will grow back right?
Applo101 10 months ago
@Applo101 Yes, but it can take several months.
zenologue 8 months ago
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linnieworld 11 months ago
If it's clipped right, like in your vid, doesn't that give them enough speed to run into a wall and hurt themselves?
NarutoFan9342 11 months ago
@NarutoFan9342 I have found that they are less likely to fly into a wall at high speed when their wings are properly clipped. This is because they have much more flight control, and they are not stupid enough to voluntarily fly into a wall. I think they actually fly slower when they have control than when they are just flapping desperately with a bad clip.
zenologue 11 months ago
@zenologue Yeah, I agree about the clipping, but my bird (and many others of which I've heard on the internet) are running into walls at very high speeds and hurting themselves a lot. I have only let my bird out one time and he hit the wall 4 times very hard. I'm afraid to let him out again before I get his wings clipped so I was just looking for some tips. Thank you :)
NarutoFan9342 11 months ago
@NarutoFan9342 If your bird is freaking out and flying into the wall, you should not be taking him out. You should train him to sit on your finger first. If your bird is not freaking out but flying into the wall anyway, I don't know what to say. It's possible he doesn't know how to fly or something.
zenologue 11 months ago
HE LOOKS LIKE MY BIRD!!!! !!!! !!
iEZCheez33 11 months ago
@cadoo1998 Yes, pulling feathers does hurt! Feathers should never be pulled unless there is a medical reason. Nothing makes feathers grow faster-- only good nutrition and proper care will have them looking best. If you're asking this because the feathers are already missing, because the bird is pulling them out himself, or any other reason, GO TO AN AVIAN VETERINARIAN!
zenologue 1 year ago
@cadoo1998 DONT PULL an if you clip your birds wings mine specifically is a blue an gold macaw an a hyacinth macaw it takes about a month for their wings to grow back its about the same for smaller breeds to
but do some research an yes your dad is wrong
zombiecommanderXD 1 year ago
dosent pulling a feather hurt a bird even if isn't a blood feather and my dad thinks it grows faster if it gets clippped or pulled? Is he wrong?
cadoo1998 1 year ago
A bird is meant to fly!!!
Milltify 1 year ago
In Sweden there is a law against clipping your pet birds wings. It falls under animal cruelty. I doubt that this law would be there if no harm comes to the birds.
Milltify 1 year ago
@Milltify I am not sure that's accurate with regard to feathers. I think that it is illegal to clip dog ears and dock tails, so perhaps it is illegal to clip the wings in a similar surgical manner (pinioning).
zenologue 1 year ago
@Milltify Not at all its just like getting a haircut, only except it might annoy them lol.
crazyfreakypunk 1 year ago
@ barrowbro3 just go to an aviary vet and ask for step by step instructions you should get an idea thence!
MangoMustang 1 year ago
That rapid uncontrolled decent seemed rather controlled. And it looked like the bird got lots of lift with the other method.
relussier 1 year ago
@relussier Yes, that descent was extremely controlled. By gravity.
Flapping vigorously will get a correctly clipped bird a couple feet in the air, but that's not the definition of lift.
zenologue 1 year ago
@zenologue The first method seemed to allow the bird to control his rate of descent, however clumsily. With the second, the bird was able to actually gain altitude. If you did not intend to portray it this way, please, modify the video or re-do it.
relussier 1 year ago
@relussier The video illustrates that proper clipping offers more control, which is the point. I am not going to re-do the video because I should have defined "lift" better. Further, if you were to toss a ball in the way Zafu was tossed onto the bed, it would demonstrate as much "control" as you seem to think the bird demonstrates.
If my video is unsatisfactory to you, do feel free to make your own.
zenologue 1 year ago
@zenologue I added some definition notes. Maybe that will help, but not if you want things to be perfect.
zenologue 1 year ago
i'm really scared of clipping my parakeet's wings I love those 2 to death and I don't have any experience clipping them can someone give me step by step instructions and also when they struggle out of my grip it makes me sad :(
barrowbro3 1 year ago
what can I do if I buy a bird with clipped wings (done right and looks exactly like yours) and I want it to fly? I heard that you have to pull off the clipped feather so it grows back and fully formed but mine is a baby.And do you cut it or pull tha feather and when?
thebluekid302 1 year ago
@thebluekid302 No need to pull feathers! They fall out on their own. The only problem I had was when one feather would grow out first and stick out so far that it broke and bled when the bird vigorously flapped. In this case I did an intermediate clip (longer, but still clipped) to prevent breakage until all the feathers grew out more. The broken/bleeding feathers had to be pulled out. Please go to an avian vet to learn how to clip or pull feathers if you are going to do that.
zenologue 1 year ago
@zenologue do you only cut the first 7 feathers?
sammymunir 1 year ago
interesting!
can i clip canary's wings as well?
9raymondo9 1 year ago
@9raymondo9 I know very little about canary behavior or care. Ask an avian vet.
zenologue 1 year ago
Dont even hold your bird like this,,,,,
hyperfocus2011 1 year ago
Personally, I can't imagine ever clipping my pet bird's wings. In a small place, I can make it safe for the bird to fly free by covering the windows and mirrors, and would have no ceiling fans (or just one that the birds have fun riding; I've done that before.) If I could afford a big place with vaulted ceilings and chandeliers, I could afford an aviary for my birds. It never seemed to me that clipping wings is the best solution for budgies (larger birds like parrots and cockatoos I might.)
featherwinglove 1 year ago
@featherwinglove An aviary would definitley be the optimal solution, but it's not always a practical one. I've had birds on and off for over 20 years. The scariest thing to me is when a bird falls behind something-- or heaven forbid INTO something. Unfortunately, curtains and sheets don't do much for that kind of danger.
zenologue 1 year ago
@featherwinglove dude..in some cases is better to trim..
untitledude 1 year ago
@untitledude I know, but my point is that I don't see my own place as being one of them.
featherwinglove 1 year ago
Sorry this was confusing
VtBudgies 1 year ago
Sorry messed up im on an ipad hard to type :) but anyway what weve done is take animals from the wild at some point in time and put them in our villiges or wherever and we tamed them as much as we could we then bred them for size shape color attitude ext we have mutated animals to live with us and because of this it is up to us to take care of them taking a none demesticated animal out of his known "safe" life is cruel wether thats taking a wild animal in ot putting a demesticated animal out wh
VtBudgies 1 year ago
Venatici82 animals have been bred for basically ever whatw
VtBudgies 1 year ago
can your local pet shop trim your birds wings and how much would it be
DAVIDTV101 1 year ago
@DAVIDTV101 The staff in most pet shops have no clue how to do it properly. And they may not admit that they don't know, because that looks bad for the business. You may have better luck at pet shops that ONLY work with birds. The best thing is to find your local avian vets... call them and ask if they can show you how.
zenologue 1 year ago
throwing your bird like that will kill it
TheSiday 1 year ago
@TheSiday Yes. I don't know how I live with myself, tossing my bird a foot and a half onto a bed. And my bird clearly can't live with himself either, as he has so often jumped on his own, crash-landing on the hard floor several feet below because of his overly-clipped wings, tweeting ironically happy tweets the whole time. Those happy tweets are so tragic. I should really warn people about what happens when someone over-clips a bird's wings. It's sad.
zenologue 1 year ago
@TheSiday Seriously though, Zafu fell off the bed because he jumped out of my hands before I even did anything-- you can see that my hand is nowhere in the Take Two shot. I was just lucky he landed in front of the camera so it was caught on video. It was better than any demo I could have artificially constructed!
zenologue 1 year ago
@zenologue Still though, you'd have to admit, a clip like Zafu's is probably more dangerous than no clip at all in a typical apartment. I wouldn't let Zafu out of his cage like that! Going for the secondaries also increases the risk of hitting the patapagium behind the humerus, which would almost certainly be fatal. I saw a wild crow with an asymetric molt, stalled his left wing every other flap, but knew how to recover well; it was almost comical.
featherwinglove 1 year ago
@featherwinglove Yeah, the "wrong" of Zafu's cut is the point of the video. When I was young, I had birds that came with clipped wings and was horrified at their lack of flight control. I resolved that wing clipping was cruel and inhumane. It wasn't until years later that I discovered the problem was they, like Zafu, had inappropriately butchered wings and that there was a better way.
zenologue 1 year ago
sometimes the wing is kinda hard to clip, do i still cut through it? (yess i only cut the flight feathers, and ive done it once, but the last feather got hard)
DaJulioShow 1 year ago
@DaJulioShow These questions are best directed to an avian veterinarian.
zenologue 1 year ago
@Venatici82 The entire point of this video is to demonstrate how feathers can be trimmed in such a way that the birds can still use the force of air against their feathers to control their motion through the air (a process also known as "flying around").
zenologue 1 year ago
They fly freely in the house. When I cook I close the door. Never had any accidents. Yes they poop, so what? Just clean it up!?!
If you clip their wings so they can poop in one plays it's done to make YOUR life easier, not the bird happy.
No one can say clipping wings is natural. It's not.
Venatici82 1 year ago
@Venatici82 Look, I get how you feel about letting birds be birds, but please don't pretend I'm doing this for my own convenience. If it were that, I'd leave them in the cage! Houses and furniture are designed for humans, not for birds, so please also don't pretend that it's more "natural" for birds to have free reign in a house. If you want your birds to be "natural," take them to Australia and let them out.
zenologue 1 year ago
This is cruel! You take away the birds natural behavior and force them to be your "friend".
Their muscles in the chest will be poor and under developed etc! Would you like to get your feet taken away so you can't go anywhere?
Just cruel...
If your home is not safe for a bird - DON'T GET ONE!!!
Venatici82 1 year ago
@Venatici82 Your comment is rather ironic. I clip feathers so that I can let them free to fly around and get more exercise on their play-tree without worrying about them. It's really nice how independent they are of me. They eat strawberries and play with their chew toys most of the day.
zenologue 1 year ago
@zenologue But still: You take away their born right to fly. If you don't have a safe home for birds, why have them at all? It's selfish to take away their instincts just so you can handle them how you want. That "friendship" is based on abuse, not trust. I have two budgies who live free in the house with their ability to fly and they are very tame and there has never been any accidents.
Venatici82 1 year ago
@Venatici82 Clipping wings helps to keep the birds safe and fly without the possibility of hurting them. Clipping wings DOES NOT take the birds ability to fly away, it just censors it a little to keep them safe.Isn't that what we want for our budgies? Every home, no matter how safe you feel it is and how many things you do to make it safe, can completely protect a budgie. Accidents happen no matter how safe a home is and from what I see, zenologue is raising their budgies beautifully.
desigirl1979 1 year ago 9
@Venatici82
If you want them to be so "natural" don't even have them as pets! Wing clipping is almost 100% needed! They can fly too high with their whole wings, fall down from a really high place and get seriously injured, fall into a pot of boiling water, land into your window and leave poop, or just pretty much escape! :S
Obviously you don't know what you're talking about...
Sweetlolly11 1 year ago
@Venatici82 Clipping a birds wings is pretty much like keeping a dog or a cat indoors. If you don't want to clip your bird's wings, fine. don't. but being rude on other peoples videos will NOT help at all. If you took a bird from the wild and clipped it's wings. THAT would be cruel. because they need their wings to survive. but captive birds don't really need their wings if you are a good bird owner and give them everything they need. It's the owners choice.
xxBecaB00xxx 1 year ago
zenny sounds like a helicopter when he flies!
hey that rhymes!
zenny is like a heli!!!!!!!!!!!11
ha ha
thmanify 1 year ago
my parakeet has a cut near his wing i do not even no how it cam ther will he be ok
cars675 1 year ago
@cars675 Sorry, there's no way I can answer that. I hope your bird will be OK.
zenologue 1 year ago
so the secondary feathers will grow back and the white budgie will be full flighted again
frisco448 1 year ago
Yeah. With a normal trim (like the blue budgie has), the feathers will be back fairly quickly. The white budgie's cut was so severe that it's taken over a year for him to be able to start growing his primaries without risk of them breaking when he flaps.
zenologue 1 year ago
can all of their feathers grow back?
frisco448 1 year ago
Yes, usually. Birds shed and re-grow feathers kind of like mammals shed and re-grow hairs. Feathers are much more complicated and take much longer to grow, however.
zenologue 1 year ago
I'm a veterinary technician and everybody PLEASE take your bird to the vet for at LEAST the first time. The vet will let you know if you are ready to cut on your own. A lot of people think they know what they're doing and then they cut secondary's or blood feathers, or injure the bird during restraint. BE CAREFUL.
MsKittyFntstico8 1 year ago 14
I am in complete agreement. I'm a former vet tech, too.
zenologue 1 year ago
@MsKittyFntstico8 how much money does it take?
FeNoMiNuL 8 months ago
great demonstration and video production! Your budgies are adorable! :)
PunkyAlias 1 year ago
did you clip the wings and if so what did you use to do so ?
kateytheparrotperson 2 years ago
Sharp scissors are used to clip feathers.
zenologue 1 year ago
lol 0:39 was funny and adorable. But very good video in demonstrating right and wrong
hippytubachick 2 years ago
I just got a budgie, and her feathers had been cut too short. She can't make it much further than 3 feet before quickly dropping to the ground. She's nervous to begin with, and suddenly falling to the ground all the time doesn't help. I would much rather have a budgie that doesn't need to be carried everywhere, and I think my budgie agrees.
Radien 2 years ago
how many of the primary feathers did u cut? i get the pet of only the primary ones but how many of them
pencilluna10 2 years ago
@pencilluna10 . I started out cutting 4 feathers on each wing. After my budgies got used to that and their wings got stronger (they will flap harder with clipped wings), I started clipping 5 feathers on each wing. Never clip any feathers that are still growing, or your bird can bleed very badly! If you don't know how to tell which feathers are still growing, DO NOT clip your bird by yourself-- get help from someone who knows how to do it.
zenologue 2 years ago
Thank you! We just got cockatiel, we weren't sure if wings were properly cut, because she can still fly. This showed they did do it right. (I just don't know why I can't find a store willing to cut her wings!)
Jennifr1966 2 years ago
An avian vet would be able to show you how to clip the wings yourself. Typically, the outer (primary) long flight feathers are cut so they're flush with the medium-sized feathers above them. Only feathers that are fully grown in and hollow (no longer filled with blood) should ever be cut.
zenologue 2 years ago