It is a wrong opinion that today Albanians are not from Caucasus in 11th century. George Maniac brought the to fight in Sicily and Balkan where they stayed. Best evidence is language. They do not count to ten like European nations but like Azerbaijan people. Anybody can check this
Iranian government always claims Azerbaijan as part of Persia, but the true history shows that the Azerbaijani-Turkic dynasties had had ruled modern Persia/Iran, and influenced its culture, language, and DNA for several centuries 952AD-1925; such dynasties include the Qara-qoyunlu, Aq-Qoyunlu, Khazars, Shirvanshah, Safavid, Afsharid, Qajars, and Seljuks. During the Azerbaijani dynasties, Turkic was the language of the Royal Palaces and military & Shiite-Islam was brought and forced on Persians.
The Persian propaganda that Azerbaijanis are Turkinized Persians is absolutely wrong. There is nothing called pure nation on earth. Azerbaijanis are like every other nation has mix DNA, culture, & tradition because of the mixed marriages among the avrious peoples who invaded it and among its ancient Caucasian tribes. In the 7th Century AD and forward, the Turkic population started to increase with the arrival of the Khazars, then in the 10th century AD.
Azerbaijan was known as Albania by the Romans and Byzantines, while modern Albania was known as Illyria by Romans and Byzantines. The 26 ancient peoples of Azerbaijan are nowadays the North Caucasian peoples: the Lezgis, Avars, Lak, Dargwa, Chechens, Ingush, Udi...etc. Turkic peoples appeared in the 4th Century AD. The Persians ruled Azerbaijan and an Autonomous provice within the Achaemenid and the Sassanid Empires.
Every educated person in the world knows balkan albanian and caucaus albanians are completely different peoples. The balkan albanian are an indo european language while caucaus is not indoeuropean. You kids have to grow up and let go of the unnecessary hatred, its the 21st century and everyone is educated. Also to educate some, there is no migrations of albanians to the balkans before, during, or after the ottoman times.
you people need to read more, before firsr centure, during the illyrian and alexander time, people and tribes travlled, and where ever they settelled, they give thier own name, thats,, for examples why streets and churches in the uk are called albany, is because illyrian tribes come to uk during roman times, thats all, and the catholci churched was named st albans, as they were all christians, from the illyrian tribe, people move and keep their name in genereation.
in 1991 john wilks (Wilkes is the foremost LIVING authority on the Illyrians) said that bosnians are of illyrian decend. ten years after ALBANIAN accademics agreed with him: Kaplan Resuli, Fatos Lubonja, Ardian Qosi and Ardian Vebiu also other experts worlwide like: Paul, Hirt, Weigand, Tomashek, Georgiev, Pushcariu and many others. And then we got the genetic facts from Igenea, genograpic and familytreedna.
@bosna501 well the name albania is a name of a city or a geographical region . It doesn't identify an ETHNICITY or NATIONALITY. like you mentioned Shquiptar which is A NAME of an ETHNCITY.
get a mapp of caucasian albania at the time of charles the great in 3rd century BC....scodra, serbus or serbi, greeks, romans, albanians, illyrians were there at the time....just get the mapp and see for ur self
no bosnians are serdulas or serbs that were islamized by the turks....our balkan peninsula was rulled by Illyrians until Roman empire destroyed them.....then after that our area was rulled by Romans that doesn't mean ura roman....just like albanians they are saying they are antient caucasian albanians and illyrians at the same time but during the Illyrian empire ....caucasian albania was already a state in above Armenia....hows that possible?
This word comes from the Greeks that use this word to describe the country of the illyrian tibe of Albani in balkans. They use this world also to Caucasus because the people there where the same. The local name of Azerbaijan was "Aran" that time
--The word Alban has no any meaning in Greek language--
-on the other hand,Anna Komnena who mention for the first time the name Alban--says that :--the people who live around Kroya--Albania, call themselves Arban--not Alban---that's why u call Greeks with Albanian origin Arvanites
Latter on the the R becomes L--
In ancient times has been even another country named ALBANIA--This is SCHOTLAND
Even ENGLAND has had a different name like ALBION--which is the distorted form of the name ALbani
This is right. Arvanites, Arnaut are words that describe Albanians. This is also right that the at lest 2 ancient Illyrian tribes where know as Albani. Maybe Greeks call Albani the Arbanis. And then gave the same name to Arbanis of Caucasus where Illyrians came from.
The prefix ar is very common to Caucasus. Then Greeks change it to al that in Greek means the natural light (contrary to the el that means the divine).
---It's more interesting, cuze We can see in an ancient map of Alexander the Great a region named Germany---somewhere in north of Iran
----and it was something extremely interesting here in USA --when TV 13 gave some footage from a German TV during the Nazis years-where German scientists were working in Nepal measuring the scull of the people over there, and compared them to the German people to see the Similarities
cuze they thought the first Germanic people came from there
This is right. Arvanites, Arnaut are words that describe Albanians. This is also right that the at lest 2 ancient Illyrian tribes where know as Albani. Maybe Greeks call Albani the Arbanis.
It was not 'Aran', it was Atropatene and Azerbaijanies are also Turks. The Turkish race does not exist. Turks are a nation consisting of various tribes with the same culture, language, history and pre-islamic religion. Today's people from Turkey are decendants of the Hittites, Greco-Anatolians, Caucasians, Phoenicians, Mesopotamians etc. Just check out eupedia . com and look at Turkey's DNA. The Caucasian Albania has nothing to do with Illyrian Albania. Azerbaijani history is much more older.
Atropatene was the Hellinisic name of south Azerbaijan. The native name was Arya name for all Iran that time. The north Azerbaijan has the name "Aran". The ancient Azerbaijanies were Caucasians and now Turk-Caucasians and the south Iranians and now Turk-Iranians
Even the name "Azeri" comes from the iranian word "Azerites" that stands for the zoroastrian fire-worshipers. I didn't said that the Azeris aren't autochonus but that the Illyrians are old caucasian nation.
I don't agree about Illyrians being an old caucasian nation. The historical Albanians ('mountainous land') which are the forefathers of the Azerbaijani people were caucasian. Nowadays Albanians are decendants of the Illyrians, balkanic people. It is merely a name coincedance in English, cause Albanians call their country Sqiptar. Azerbaijani people don't like being called Azeri, cause they say it is Persian chauvanism, trying to assimilate Turanian people into Persians...
Don;'t talk to greeks about history their history is a lie just like the serb history,,, they came from eithiopia those greeks faggots,,, turkish and albanians will rule the ballkans soon,,, and azerbejan is our friends maybe even more than that,,,
how can two people call them selves albanians but they have nothing to do with each others? no college proffesors or any historians will ever let u use the wikipedia because that source is not usefull....nobody today is of Illyrian blood....maybe greeks and serbs a lil bit but people back then did not mix...
Albania in the balkans is called Albania by non-Albanians. It originates from one of the Illyrian tribes that lived in central albania called "Albanoi".Albanians call their country "Shqiperi" meaning land of the eagle.
The Albania name in Caucasian Region is just a name coincidence.
Historical Caucasian state of Albania in Azerbaijan does not have anything common with Albania in Balkans today. It is just the similarities of names, though it is very interesting coincidence of the similar names.
Armenian, Osetian and Azerbaijan are not Caucasian see wikipedia
SaitebisDamzadeba 1 day ago
It is a wrong opinion that today Albanians are not from Caucasus in 11th century. George Maniac brought the to fight in Sicily and Balkan where they stayed. Best evidence is language. They do not count to ten like European nations but like Azerbaijan people. Anybody can check this
velikistrumfjr 4 months ago
Lezgins, Udi real descendants of the Caucasian Albania. Albania from Lezghian language "Alpan"
SNAlPER 4 months ago
@seanamico no way Azeris in Azerbaijan have mostly Caucasian DNA and wery small H12 DNA with is from turkmen(Oguzi turks).
Azerbaijanec78 4 months ago
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Azerbaijanec78 6 months ago
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Azerbaijanec78 7 months ago
@Azerbaijanec78, Azeri are of Iranic people, not that they are mixed with Iranian. Not much of Turkish in Azeri people.
seanamico 6 months ago
Iranian government always claims Azerbaijan as part of Persia, but the true history shows that the Azerbaijani-Turkic dynasties had had ruled modern Persia/Iran, and influenced its culture, language, and DNA for several centuries 952AD-1925; such dynasties include the Qara-qoyunlu, Aq-Qoyunlu, Khazars, Shirvanshah, Safavid, Afsharid, Qajars, and Seljuks. During the Azerbaijani dynasties, Turkic was the language of the Royal Palaces and military & Shiite-Islam was brought and forced on Persians.
anarmehtievful 9 months ago
The Persian propaganda that Azerbaijanis are Turkinized Persians is absolutely wrong. There is nothing called pure nation on earth. Azerbaijanis are like every other nation has mix DNA, culture, & tradition because of the mixed marriages among the avrious peoples who invaded it and among its ancient Caucasian tribes. In the 7th Century AD and forward, the Turkic population started to increase with the arrival of the Khazars, then in the 10th century AD.
anarmehtievful 9 months ago
Azerbaijan was known as Albania by the Romans and Byzantines, while modern Albania was known as Illyria by Romans and Byzantines. The 26 ancient peoples of Azerbaijan are nowadays the North Caucasian peoples: the Lezgis, Avars, Lak, Dargwa, Chechens, Ingush, Udi...etc. Turkic peoples appeared in the 4th Century AD. The Persians ruled Azerbaijan and an Autonomous provice within the Achaemenid and the Sassanid Empires.
anarmehtievful 9 months ago
idiot serb fuck you idiot slav go back to asian
sexomanis123 10 months ago
Every educated person in the world knows balkan albanian and caucaus albanians are completely different peoples. The balkan albanian are an indo european language while caucaus is not indoeuropean. You kids have to grow up and let go of the unnecessary hatred, its the 21st century and everyone is educated. Also to educate some, there is no migrations of albanians to the balkans before, during, or after the ottoman times.
synistrugane 11 months ago
you people need to read more, before firsr centure, during the illyrian and alexander time, people and tribes travlled, and where ever they settelled, they give thier own name, thats,, for examples why streets and churches in the uk are called albany, is because illyrian tribes come to uk during roman times, thats all, and the catholci churched was named st albans, as they were all christians, from the illyrian tribe, people move and keep their name in genereation.
elistrushi 1 year ago
you azer whores will be fuuuuuuuucked again. much worse next time.
joejoe4812 1 year ago
@joejoe4812 fuck you too, you are stupid and whoreson
MrZeroblood 11 months ago
halaldi brat
uzunmeshe 1 year ago
in 1991 john wilks (Wilkes is the foremost LIVING authority on the Illyrians) said that bosnians are of illyrian decend. ten years after ALBANIAN accademics agreed with him: Kaplan Resuli, Fatos Lubonja, Ardian Qosi and Ardian Vebiu also other experts worlwide like: Paul, Hirt, Weigand, Tomashek, Georgiev, Pushcariu and many others. And then we got the genetic facts from Igenea, genograpic and familytreedna.
bosna501 1 year ago
Bosnians are Serbs Muahahaahaahahha
Bosnia is many older than Serbia
Bosnia or Bosona is real Illyrian Word.
Look video : DNA of the Balkans
this are results from all seriousest DNA Institutes all over the World.
It gives many Facts and this serb propagandacomey its funny that says all world is serbian and serbianpeople is Holy from God :))))
bosna501 2 years ago
@bosna501 croatians call themselves hrvati not croatian- can you explain that?
BOGZASV8MA 1 year ago
@BOGZASV8MA
Yes you are right orgin name of croats are Hrvat or Hrvati
and this Name is orgin Perisian Word its not nativ from Balkans
and the same with Shqipetars (Albanians) albania is only the international
name but have no meaning and orgin Shqiperia its from caucasus
look Chechenya on chechenian Language its Ichqeria.
Ichqeria - Shqiperia you can see its absolut similar.
bosna501 1 year ago
@bosna501 well the name albania is a name of a city or a geographical region . It doesn't identify an ETHNICITY or NATIONALITY. like you mentioned Shquiptar which is A NAME of an ETHNCITY.
BOGZASV8MA 1 year ago
get a mapp of caucasian albania at the time of charles the great in 3rd century BC....scodra, serbus or serbi, greeks, romans, albanians, illyrians were there at the time....just get the mapp and see for ur self
srpskiheroi 2 years ago
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shkembbaroti 2 years ago
BOSNIANS=ILLYRIANS
bosna501 2 years ago
no bosnians are serdulas or serbs that were islamized by the turks....our balkan peninsula was rulled by Illyrians until Roman empire destroyed them.....then after that our area was rulled by Romans that doesn't mean ura roman....just like albanians they are saying they are antient caucasian albanians and illyrians at the same time but during the Illyrian empire ....caucasian albania was already a state in above Armenia....hows that possible?
srpskiheroi 2 years ago
--Is there any meaning of the words Albania in ur language?
aspetosi 2 years ago
This word comes from the Greeks that use this word to describe the country of the illyrian tibe of Albani in balkans. They use this world also to Caucasus because the people there where the same. The local name of Azerbaijan was "Aran" that time
MessiniaGreece 2 years ago
--The word Alban has no any meaning in Greek language--
-on the other hand,Anna Komnena who mention for the first time the name Alban--says that :--the people who live around Kroya--Albania, call themselves Arban--not Alban---that's why u call Greeks with Albanian origin Arvanites
Latter on the the R becomes L--
In ancient times has been even another country named ALBANIA--This is SCHOTLAND
Even ENGLAND has had a different name like ALBION--which is the distorted form of the name ALbani
aspetosi 2 years ago
This is right. Arvanites, Arnaut are words that describe Albanians. This is also right that the at lest 2 ancient Illyrian tribes where know as Albani. Maybe Greeks call Albani the Arbanis. And then gave the same name to Arbanis of Caucasus where Illyrians came from.
MessiniaGreece 2 years ago
The prefix ar is very common to Caucasus. Then Greeks change it to al that in Greek means the natural light (contrary to the el that means the divine).
MessiniaGreece 2 years ago
It is interesting that in ancient maps we can locate even an Arabia in Caucasus!
MessiniaGreece 2 years ago
---It's more interesting, cuze We can see in an ancient map of Alexander the Great a region named Germany---somewhere in north of Iran
----and it was something extremely interesting here in USA --when TV 13 gave some footage from a German TV during the Nazis years-where German scientists were working in Nepal measuring the scull of the people over there, and compared them to the German people to see the Similarities
cuze they thought the first Germanic people came from there
aspetosi 2 years ago
This is right. Arvanites, Arnaut are words that describe Albanians. This is also right that the at lest 2 ancient Illyrian tribes where know as Albani. Maybe Greeks call Albani the Arbanis.
MessiniaGreece 2 years ago
First--Albanians called themselves Arbanians as A. Komnena says--than greeks called them arvanites
But this name begin around 1000 AD, not before, so there is no any connection between Albanians of Ballkans and Albanians in Caucasus
But Scotland was called Albani in the same time with this in Caucasus
Illyrians came from Caucasus in Balkans at the time when White Population came from Caucasus
that's why here in USA when u are a white race ,u should say in ur papers
--White Caucasian
aspetosi 2 years ago
It was not 'Aran', it was Atropatene and Azerbaijanies are also Turks. The Turkish race does not exist. Turks are a nation consisting of various tribes with the same culture, language, history and pre-islamic religion. Today's people from Turkey are decendants of the Hittites, Greco-Anatolians, Caucasians, Phoenicians, Mesopotamians etc. Just check out eupedia . com and look at Turkey's DNA. The Caucasian Albania has nothing to do with Illyrian Albania. Azerbaijani history is much more older.
0colaturka0 2 years ago
Atropatene was the Hellinisic name of south Azerbaijan. The native name was Arya name for all Iran that time. The north Azerbaijan has the name "Aran". The ancient Azerbaijanies were Caucasians and now Turk-Caucasians and the south Iranians and now Turk-Iranians
MessiniaGreece 2 years ago
Even the name "Azeri" comes from the iranian word "Azerites" that stands for the zoroastrian fire-worshipers. I didn't said that the Azeris aren't autochonus but that the Illyrians are old caucasian nation.
MessiniaGreece 2 years ago
I don't agree about Illyrians being an old caucasian nation. The historical Albanians ('mountainous land') which are the forefathers of the Azerbaijani people were caucasian. Nowadays Albanians are decendants of the Illyrians, balkanic people. It is merely a name coincedance in English, cause Albanians call their country Sqiptar. Azerbaijani people don't like being called Azeri, cause they say it is Persian chauvanism, trying to assimilate Turanian people into Persians...
0colaturka0 2 years ago 2
And how we know that Albanians aren't Caucasian? They have dinaric characteristics.
MessiniaGreece 2 years ago
Don;'t talk to greeks about history their history is a lie just like the serb history,,, they came from eithiopia those greeks faggots,,, turkish and albanians will rule the ballkans soon,,, and azerbejan is our friends maybe even more than that,,,
albob1o2 2 years ago
how can two people call them selves albanians but they have nothing to do with each others? no college proffesors or any historians will ever let u use the wikipedia because that source is not usefull....nobody today is of Illyrian blood....maybe greeks and serbs a lil bit but people back then did not mix...
srpskiheroi 2 years ago
Allah bizi Turan da buluştursun
"VATAN NE TÜRKİYE DİR TÜRKLERE NE TÜRKİSTAN VATAN BÜYÜK VE MÜEBBET BİR ÜLKE :TURAN" ZİYA GÖKALP
cerivolkan 4 years ago
Albania in the balkans is called Albania by non-Albanians. It originates from one of the Illyrian tribes that lived in central albania called "Albanoi".Albanians call their country "Shqiperi" meaning land of the eagle.
The Albania name in Caucasian Region is just a name coincidence.
vl1997 4 years ago 13
did you hear?...ALB means mountain !!!in latin and not white!!!!!
nixter888 4 years ago
of course we did,
but illyrian albania has nothing to do with caucasian albania
ALBOCRIP 3 years ago 2
Yes, exactly..
hakanjp 4 years ago
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Vru7 2 months ago
@vl1997 didnt shqiperi or what ever u call it Shqipërisë mean Highlander ?
Vru7 2 months ago
Historical Caucasian state of Albania in Azerbaijan does not have anything common with Albania in Balkans today. It is just the similarities of names, though it is very interesting coincidence of the similar names.
hakanjp 4 years ago
Of course, ALba is latin for white. Scotland was called that for a while. Albany, NY. Mount Alban in Mexico.
St.Albans streets in England. Plenty of Names.
Albania of the Balkans got it's name from the Latin translation of the Illyrian Tribe Parthi/Bardhi which in Albanian means white.
gator153 4 years ago 7
Albania means mountains in latin
3lmar 4 years ago 2
@hakanjp albanians came to the balkans with their brother the turks during ottoman empire.
SuperPreciousMetal 11 months ago
Pls read the info on the right, everything is there!
hakanjp 4 years ago