We are attached to our belief in reincarnation and a soul that goes on in a universe that we can control. Belief in Heaven, belief in Nirvana, belief in Moksha, belief that you only live once and never live again: it's all rooted in the same desire. Ram Dass apparently never overcame those desires.
@imjustpassinthru he actually discusses this in his books and his speaking engagements. he stated that he has not overcome all of his desires. but that he has overcome judgment and merged into Divine Love. he states it is ALL clinging....
@progressiveGal73 ... I'm sorry, you're wrong in your perception of what he has said or is saying. It's one thing to talk about overcoming desire and another thing to fully understand what your desires are. People have desires they are not even aware of. And there is no way of "overcoming" those desires, as if it were a matter of effort. If you understand the specific desire I'm alluding to (and you don't) then you will acknowledge that enlightenment is a matter or realization, not effort.
...it is only the non attached mind that can truly appreciate how it is... otherwise u are just seeing the projections of ur own desires...this is a brilliant speech. really helping me to hear this... and we so often forget...for this reason we have to listen more often to saints like Ram Dassji.
Some of both. We are attached to the known. This is why one of Krishnamurti's books is titled 'Freedom from the known'. The known is memory, It is past.
For the way out Mooji is a good reference but I also like listening to Ramdass.
i honestly think its b/c we are used to these shallow emotional states and just havent experienced anything deeper, so much so that when we do experience something with depth to it we withdraw immediately b/c it is outside our comfort zone.
New New World Order 国際連盟SAGEテーマソング「ピース・オブ・ザ・ワールド」♪ KAZUKI&SIZUKU ♪ United Nations SAGE Theme Song「Peace of the World」・(KAZUKI)2009年 国連ユネスコ世界遺産音楽祭エグゼグティブプロデューサー
Ram Dass is a graceful teacher. his wisdom has brought me much relief as i navigate my own path. thank you for this wonderful post.
progressiveGal73 1 month ago
We are attached to our belief in reincarnation and a soul that goes on in a universe that we can control. Belief in Heaven, belief in Nirvana, belief in Moksha, belief that you only live once and never live again: it's all rooted in the same desire. Ram Dass apparently never overcame those desires.
imjustpassinthru 2 months ago
@imjustpassinthru he actually discusses this in his books and his speaking engagements. he stated that he has not overcome all of his desires. but that he has overcome judgment and merged into Divine Love. he states it is ALL clinging....
progressiveGal73 1 month ago
@progressiveGal73 ... I'm sorry, you're wrong in your perception of what he has said or is saying. It's one thing to talk about overcoming desire and another thing to fully understand what your desires are. People have desires they are not even aware of. And there is no way of "overcoming" those desires, as if it were a matter of effort. If you understand the specific desire I'm alluding to (and you don't) then you will acknowledge that enlightenment is a matter or realization, not effort.
imjustpassinthru 1 month ago
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progressiveGal73 1 month ago
@imjustpassinthru thank you for your feedback.~
progressiveGal73 1 month ago
thanks for this
the background fits very well, very hypnotic
Ram Dass coming through
as clear as it gets
jambinz 3 months ago
Great stuff. Echoes God Speaks - Meher Baba. Ram Dass's heart space/being is so special. we connect.
Offdrive3 6 months ago
Namaste. Thank You. Namaste.
HanumanDas420 7 months ago
Being here in the now, how very sense memory!
How far is this from the 'shame core' of bullshite?
FidelCastro128 10 months ago
@FidelCastro128 pretty far.
progressiveGal73 1 month ago
That dude is my favorite guy ever! Be here now!
matydrum 11 months ago
Thnks for sharing.
justkarmatoo 1 year ago
Brilliant and thankyou. He hits it below the belt and is spot on.
Bundydeb1 1 year ago
...it is only the non attached mind that can truly appreciate how it is... otherwise u are just seeing the projections of ur own desires...this is a brilliant speech. really helping me to hear this... and we so often forget...for this reason we have to listen more often to saints like Ram Dassji.
kishoriray 2 years ago 2
Is it that we do not want out of our drama or that we do not know the way out?
CloudshadowMan1 2 years ago
Some of both. We are attached to the known. This is why one of Krishnamurti's books is titled 'Freedom from the known'. The known is memory, It is past.
For the way out Mooji is a good reference but I also like listening to Ramdass.
claudelebel55 2 years ago 6
well, if what is known is experienced as it is known still make it memory, or simply a nuance on direct experience of what Is?
phobosx12 2 years ago
i honestly think its b/c we are used to these shallow emotional states and just havent experienced anything deeper, so much so that when we do experience something with depth to it we withdraw immediately b/c it is outside our comfort zone.
ubermensch81 2 years ago
Very poignant. Thanks for posting...
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sageunr 2 years ago
I Am
Honker66 3 years ago 3
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MidnightDC696969 2 years ago
seen it yesterday! lets chat
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Bananamanreturns 3 years ago
Great wisdom from Ram Dass. Thanks for posting.
ramanaross 3 years ago 3
nice!
dpeditor 3 years ago
Ahhh....how do you spell relief? Ram Dass.
So glad he is still teaching.
ArgotMay 3 years ago 12
thx :)
schuchard 3 years ago