will they port this over to mac? they really should i really want it but i have mac :/ they'd get like 2 times more purchases than they do with pc because more and more people are changing this to mac if you know if they are porting this please tell me
The comparisons to Star Fox are accurate, but it is absurdly fun (as was Star Fox in its day), and much more interesting than it looks. I was hoping for something more robust (a la SWG) and was disappointed at first, but give it a shot and you'll see what a great little mini game/side track it is.
Incidentally, they would like to take it off rails and add pvp down the road.
It's so sad that an expansion pack that came out seven years ago had better combat than this "AAA Blockbuster". Bioware and EA are really phoning it in.
Seems "space" is as old as Rogue Squadron, a rail system too. Looks like you cant take anyone onboard, you cant have friends man the turrets, flys with a " mouse " and not a true joystick flying. Not happy with space from what I see. Too bad
The one thing that does intrigue me about this game is that not only is Bioware the developer, but they've applied the same approach to storytelling as they have in the past. A massive disconnect I get with most MMOs is the generic greeting from NPCs, followed by a series of scrolling texts. 2 ingredients that might make this an exceptional coop game is the amount of actual voice-over work they appear to have put into this game; as well as the ability for players to choose their course of action
3D space combat seems often to end up in ships endlessly circling around each other. I'd rather see a well-realized Star Fox system than a more open-ended but totally bland version like we got back in Galaxies.
The game is crap, you'll love it if you really like Star Wars but it will become boring after a while. I must admit it was fun in pve but this game is lacking in pvp. The space combat game is taken from Star Fox/Lyat Wars which is lame for a mmo. I was really disappointed in this game and i am a massive Star Wars fan. EA really needs to stop getting these game companies into releasing games way to early, it needs another year or so imo.
LOL people are expecting way to much with space combat. They're already doing something new with the voice acting. Be happy u get any space combat at all.
And yeah it prob will change and develop into something more exciting but for right now i think it looks like a pretty fun mini game. Beats standing in org for an hour
@LazieGenius Yeah voice acting is nice, but it's MMO, not single player game. We want content and more gameplay options, not some dudes talking (Which is nice addition however)
Let's all not forget; space combat in the old republic is a non essential minigame, not like this is what the game's all about people. ( A new star wars game like X-wing/Tie-fighter would be pretty sweet though )
You have got to be kidding me. Did you just toss the aperture science pre-made flight program into the swtor code? That has got to be the dumbest, whoa whoa, whoa. *cough, cough* [Voice changes, less robotic, more seductive] I found out what that thing you just integrated was. It was a failtard project of aperture science that no one wanted to use, except those blizzard fools! How could you?
mehh it's kinda like the bombing quests in wow, it's fun for a few quests and it adds something but I'm kinda disappointed cuz player vs player space combat would be much better
they never said this was a space combat mmo. so stop crying that space is a rail shooting mini-game inside a huge MMO. it's a bonus. and honestly i think it's freaking awesome. hate all you want, you'll still be playing this game come launch day.
I was starting to get excited about The Old Republic until I saw this Space Combat Demo. Space combat was the one part of the game that I was really looking for (the part I love most about SWG) - seeing that this is a sloppy 3rd person shooter with no "current" free roaming has completely turned me off on it. This is a game that I will not be getting, unless they make a MAJOR change - space battles should be first person "cockpit view", not this garbage.
Yer that space battling looked a bit lame and childish, the asteriods looked kool though, but seriously enemy ships flying right past you so you can get an easy shot, not so kool. However i liked how at the start it showed you the actualy ship that is actualy yours that is so kool, i hope theres a few hundread ships to choose from with 1000 options to put on it.
@XxFatal32xX Yer i totaly agree, free roaming space would be absoultley epic, like if you wanted to go to a planted just use the hyperdrive to get you there, that would be soo cool.
o god, this isnt nearly as bad as i had feared. I thought they were going medieval as in, KOTOR, where you have the crappy turret and you shoot at the space invader style imperial ships flying figure 8s in front of you. Yeah its still a rail shooter, but at least its more entertaining. Also as people keep saying I bet pvp will come out where you can do some awesome stuff. Just support the game and i gaurentee theyll get around to it!!
for the old SWG ppl u guys know that swg dident even have space combat at first but now it has and its all free roam in space and massive, hopefully and probably this game will get full space free roam in an expansion similar to the SWG one, it will be awesome:D
Looks like it will fuck up my mouse with so many clicks at once. Shoulda gave a ps3 version so we could use siaxis and feel the vibration when we get hit
@MrJeasaWins any video or interview you could link would be fantastic! if thats true it must mean free roam/sandbox type of space flight i would assume
Is this a joke?? 6 years in development and THIS is the space combat they came up with? Not even something as good as SWG's system? Bioware/EA should be embarassed.
@sweetdigs101 its an mmo, plus the space combat is supposed to be a minor distraction, I mean there are 17 planets for gods sake thats a lot of planets.
Guys, yeah the space combat system is a bit lame, but dont forget that the game is new and it will get updates really often and new expansions will come out, then they will problably make it better. WoW at the beginning had no flying, but now it does. SWTOR may not have free roam now, but it will, just have patience
@Epicuner Amen. WoW has developed over the past 7 years since it's been out. Most of the content people praise it for wasn't even around in classic.
Honor and battlegrounds didn't even exist until 6 or 7 months into the game. Flying mounts weren't around until Burning Crusade. There were only two raids in the game upon release: Onyxia (1 boss) and Molten Core.
Many naysayers seem to expect this game to be perfect at launch. It won't be. No MMO is. That's what's great about them - they expand.
@Epicuner the rail system doesn't seem that bad. It seems like it would make it more action packed, like a movie scene. The problem I have is with the way you control your ship with the cursor. It looks more like a flash game when it should be more like a flight sim.
@Epicuner While admire your optimism, your naivety is unbearable. First off, every MMO to do has had these promises of being the next big thing, and people always swear that the beta is dramatically different than the final version; that it will dramatically change over time as it's patched with updated and that it shall become this shimmering diamond in the rough. It's the same story every time and people keep biting so companies keep spewing out this watered down garbage with a renowned logo
@EternalSage07 Pessimism can be quite boring. Sure it's not everything people thought it would be in 2010 but it is still good and it has my money. For me, I'll be happy with it.
@Gorgoroth5746 I'm not being a pessimist, if anything I'm being a realist. I'm merely reporting what I've learned from over a decade of online gaming; probably about 6 years of which I've played MMOs on and off. MMOs promising innovation and to offer choice to veteran gamers as opposed to the hand-holding of most in the genre. Just because you happen to disagree with me doesn't mean I'm some doomsayer. It could be great, and based on what I've played I did state some reasons for its potential.
@Epicuner If you like typical MMO play then great--you'll love this game. If you're fine with paying to play a game online and being lured along to a carrot on a stick--more power to ya. Just don't pretend this game is any better than WoW or any of the dozens of MMOs promising to innovate and revolutionize the genre. It's an MMO with a Star Wars skin.
Also, if SWTOR isn't free roam then sorry to inform you, but it's never going to be. The game has to be designed around that from the ground up.
@Epicuner Another issue I have with your statement is your apparent praise of Blizzard's addition of flying mounts to WoW. This was not an improvement to the game, it trivialized WoW. There was no reason to explore by foot anymore, no challenge to get anywhere or obtain anything outdoors, griefing became easier, and it pretty much killed what little was left of world PvP after battlegrounds came into play. Basically, any and all adventure was lost and instancing became the name of the game.
So paying for a game that is in many aspects behind of games of their own fuckin brand? The Old Republic is a shitty to average MMO. They should have made a new Kotor not Frankensteins MMO-Monster.
They do intend on revisiting space in it's entirety. The only time you will be doing this rail-shooter (which is the only form of space combat in general atm) is during certain missions, quests, dailies, etc,. They have Space Exploration up on the famed "Wall of Crazy." For those of you who don't know, The Wall of Crazy is a wall of ideas that they plan on visiting or thinking about putting in the game after release.
@hammy2711 Whoa no need to get defensive all i'm asking for is a link to where that was officially stated. I have been tracking this topic for a long time and have heard nothing of their plans to change the space gameplay. If you don't have a source to that information, then keep your mouth shut cuz your speculations are misleading.
@imtheking07 I completely agree... this is an MMO and we should be able to fly and complete objectives how we want to. Not some stupid arcade-like scripted track.
It's like they just found some guy randomly from the street and said "We need you for presentation. Here, wear this shirt on and take the mic."
But wait - is the route you're going to take predetermined? You can't turn around like in space combat simulators? I mean, this just looks like background moves for you and you avoid asteroids like in side-scrolling shooters. They don't even attack him from behind.... Aw crap. There went my hopes.
This had better be a beta, because I hear TIE fighter sound effects. And the guy commentating is terrible. He points out obvious stuff acting like were dumb and don't know that space is dark! Also, I hope it's not always an "on rails" thing. I would really like to be able to move around more.
Everyone complains so damn much about games not being like other games it is annoying. BioWare had nothing to do with SWG or BF2, so say make it more like those games is like saying "Hey you can just can your whole development of a new game and just take these ones, that you had nothing to do with, and repackage them." That approach does not advance games to new levels or raise any bars. Quite crying over senseless things.
I actually like the rail shooter aspect of it, it's a minigame, not the main attraction. But the one thing I hate is the fact that the ship is smoking and creates noise, no oxygen is space= no sound and no fire. Just kidding, I don't really care.
it looks fun, but seriously this is an MMO not some game we play over the weekend and get over it. i can see this being fun for maybe the first week playing but going through space battles like this could get old considering people will play frequently for even 2 years or more.
@Haavard993 Actually I thought Fozzy. Muppet none the less. He is working for Lucas Arts, though. What do you wanna bet Jim Hensen's Creature Shop made him?
why couldnt they just do a Sweet rehash of Tie Fighter series ... This Space Combat BLOWS, i will not But this game soley based on "Space Combat" this game will have to offer... As a player i should have 360 degrees of movement not some predetermined path... its NOT innovative and its NOT engageing...
Too bad as i was having high hopes for this too...
They should be ahamed... to even concider this TRIPE, for this property.
They call that interceptors? I think those are like training drones. They don't seem to shoot at him from behind (which is definitely more convenient to shoot from).
Guys look, this game has been in Dev. for 4 years. Now look at your options, wait another 4-5 years for Bioware to work ridiculasly hard on a part of the game that's not even a majority of the game, or have it out hopefully in a year or so, with a tunnel shooter space battle... Man, you all complain way to much about Graphics. Its gameplay is what makes the game... Ya'll are truely spoiled by good looking graphics today.
@ThePhantomZero0 Wtf are u talking about? the gameplay on these space battles looks friggin awful. Reminds of all those horrible arcade shooters in the mid 90s. Like you said they've been working on this for 4-5 years... and this linear crap is what they are serving us.
How many times did he say "Awesome" in this video? Haha! Seriously though, if you think this looks interesting... You would have loved the 80's. Graphics look sub par to me as well.
I can't believe that Bioware really thought that this was a good idea.
This actually looks worse than Rebel Assault 2, and that was an FMV game from the mid 90's. Why do all the fighters come in from behind on the right or left? Bring back Tie Fighter!
eeh, not to excited with this demonstration, looks waayy to linear, id rather have free roaming battles, this is way to arcade like with the enemy ships flying right in front of u, the graphics look pretty sweet tho.
The space in SW-series takes about 50-60 % and they fail horribly like this mini game-wannabe!
At least, they could make it like the Battlefront 2 - space battle with your whole crew in one ship, handling the stearing, defence, guns, power, raiding other ships etc, etc...
why is it most of the enemy interceptors came from his six o clock position, but instead of firing on him took up position in front? is that some futuristic space combat tactic i don't know about or is this mini-game retarded?
Nice models, but these blaster bolts are looking a bit weird-like these from this ''battle of endor'' freeware thing-it looks like they are not even coming from guns, but just randomly appearing in the space in front of them.
At first I thought "Oh my god a tunnel shooter..." when they revealed the space combat but... To be honest this actually looks pretty cool. Experience, ship upgrades, and rewards? Doesn't sound all that bad. Definitely something new and exciting to do at endgame. :)
It looks like a nice break from the regular ground questing portion of the game. I don't think it will be what most players will be spending their time on, but deffinately will be a welcome break.
They should add space battles kind of like how it was in Battlefront just for PvP, but the fact this is even in the game surprises me cause its a MMO. Games looking better and better. =P
A RAIL SHOOTER!!!!! WHAT THE HELL!!!!!! SPACE COMBAT IS ONE OF THE BEST PARTS OF STAR WARS AND THEY HAD TO RUIN IT!!!!! RAIL SHOOTERS ARE FINE FOR AVERAGE GAMERS, BUT AVERAGE GAMERS DON'T GENERALLY PLAY MMOs!!!!!!! *sigh*
gaa Star Wars Galaxies had better Space Combat, go where ever the hell you wanted to go and fly around a system doing missions and crap. not Star Fox your way through the Galaxy lol It's called STAR WARS Space battles is what makes the story lol.
i hope my ship doesnt have a protocall droid on it. SIR THE ODDS OF MAKING IT.... shut the fuck up im driving BEEACH!
ZombiePigmanPictures 1 month ago
Battlefront II had a better Space gameplay
69zemaria 1 month ago
can you do space combat with friends?
ewsome322 1 month ago
Can't resist....DO A BARREL ROLL!
TheWoot23 1 month ago
will they port this over to mac? they really should i really want it but i have mac :/ they'd get like 2 times more purchases than they do with pc because more and more people are changing this to mac if you know if they are porting this please tell me
DONUTMan0900 2 months ago
They talk to the audience like there idiots
Backopsgod 2 months ago
The comparisons to Star Fox are accurate, but it is absurdly fun (as was Star Fox in its day), and much more interesting than it looks. I was hoping for something more robust (a la SWG) and was disappointed at first, but give it a shot and you'll see what a great little mini game/side track it is.
Incidentally, they would like to take it off rails and add pvp down the road.
TheTechnoByrd 2 months ago
can you do these as groups? that'd be awesome
LordMurdalot 2 months ago
The play might be simple, but it does look pretty good. I am more interested in the ground stuff anyway.
Gazerich 2 months ago
Wow, i was hoping for PvP battlegrounds similar to space combat in Battlefront games
ESPPsycho 2 months ago
It's so sad that an expansion pack that came out seven years ago had better combat than this "AAA Blockbuster". Bioware and EA are really phoning it in.
Kant3n 2 months ago
My god it's so arcade style, and sooooo primitively stupid.... WHAT a bummer.
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NuCasy 2 months ago
Seems "space" is as old as Rogue Squadron, a rail system too. Looks like you cant take anyone onboard, you cant have friends man the turrets, flys with a " mouse " and not a true joystick flying. Not happy with space from what I see. Too bad
HalcarKennels 2 months ago
The one thing that does intrigue me about this game is that not only is Bioware the developer, but they've applied the same approach to storytelling as they have in the past. A massive disconnect I get with most MMOs is the generic greeting from NPCs, followed by a series of scrolling texts. 2 ingredients that might make this an exceptional coop game is the amount of actual voice-over work they appear to have put into this game; as well as the ability for players to choose their course of action
EternalSage07 2 months ago
One can only hope that they do a 'modern' Freelancer style in the future.
FMMProductions 3 months ago
Lego star wars anyone?
ThePlasticShadow 3 months ago
its like the clone wars online :( Damn better update it to swg type or halo reachs they were epic
DemonMetalLord 3 months ago
3D space combat seems often to end up in ships endlessly circling around each other. I'd rather see a well-realized Star Fox system than a more open-ended but totally bland version like we got back in Galaxies.
uptohisneck 3 months ago
The game is crap, you'll love it if you really like Star Wars but it will become boring after a while. I must admit it was fun in pve but this game is lacking in pvp. The space combat game is taken from Star Fox/Lyat Wars which is lame for a mmo. I was really disappointed in this game and i am a massive Star Wars fan. EA really needs to stop getting these game companies into releasing games way to early, it needs another year or so imo.
fefner30 3 months ago
Rebel Assault 3.0 ;)
CaptainHarlock1980 3 months ago
Space Combat on SWTOR is funnier than it looks, believe me, I'm on CB.
Chronomatrix 3 months ago
This space combat will never be able to compare to the space combat in the old SWG
Marty0825 4 months ago
LOL people are expecting way to much with space combat. They're already doing something new with the voice acting. Be happy u get any space combat at all.
And yeah it prob will change and develop into something more exciting but for right now i think it looks like a pretty fun mini game. Beats standing in org for an hour
LazieGenius 4 months ago 4
@LazieGenius If we are going to pay for something (this case this game), we should not have to settle with "any space combat at all"
69zemaria 1 month ago
@69zemaria then gtfo
LazieGenius 1 month ago
@LazieGenius Yeah voice acting is nice, but it's MMO, not single player game. We want content and more gameplay options, not some dudes talking (Which is nice addition however)
Solaxe 1 month ago
@Solaxe I get that, i do. my point is though people shouldnt expect perfection at launch give the space combat time to grow
LazieGenius 1 month ago
I don't know what your all thinking, it may not be free roam, but it still looks brilliant.
AlisdairTW 4 months ago
Let's all not forget; space combat in the old republic is a non essential minigame, not like this is what the game's all about people. ( A new star wars game like X-wing/Tie-fighter would be pretty sweet though )
Goraka91 4 months ago
I'm old greg! XD
ThentonandKuril 4 months ago
Oooh, guys! By the way, search up Freeworlds: Tides of War on youtube! :)
Kvokki 4 months ago
You have got to be kidding me. Did you just toss the aperture science pre-made flight program into the swtor code? That has got to be the dumbest, whoa whoa, whoa. *cough, cough* [Voice changes, less robotic, more seductive] I found out what that thing you just integrated was. It was a failtard project of aperture science that no one wanted to use, except those blizzard fools! How could you?
Kvokki 4 months ago
mehh it's kinda like the bombing quests in wow, it's fun for a few quests and it adds something but I'm kinda disappointed cuz player vs player space combat would be much better
DutchslayerX 4 months ago
wow that look ssooooooooooo stupid. i was gonna buy this game til i saw space combat, now i just want to kill myself.
pulpnonfiction13 4 months ago
they never said this was a space combat mmo. so stop crying that space is a rail shooting mini-game inside a huge MMO. it's a bonus. and honestly i think it's freaking awesome. hate all you want, you'll still be playing this game come launch day.
Holinyx2003 4 months ago
I don't mind it being 3rd person, but I'd like something like Space Cowboy or Air Rivals with free roam in an open space with Warp Drivers...
RJMazz 4 months ago
It is reminiscent of Star Fox in my opinion. It looks fine; quit complaining.
The3DSKid 4 months ago
I was starting to get excited about The Old Republic until I saw this Space Combat Demo. Space combat was the one part of the game that I was really looking for (the part I love most about SWG) - seeing that this is a sloppy 3rd person shooter with no "current" free roaming has completely turned me off on it. This is a game that I will not be getting, unless they make a MAJOR change - space battles should be first person "cockpit view", not this garbage.
ogeon5 4 months ago
Yer that space battling looked a bit lame and childish, the asteriods looked kool though, but seriously enemy ships flying right past you so you can get an easy shot, not so kool. However i liked how at the start it showed you the actualy ship that is actualy yours that is so kool, i hope theres a few hundread ships to choose from with 1000 options to put on it.
PretentiousPainters 4 months ago
Fix it bio ware add more free roaming in space. I don't want to feel obligated to do one thing with out exploring.
XxFatal32xX 4 months ago
@XxFatal32xX dont worry there will be expansions
willl676 4 months ago
@XxFatal32xX Yer i totaly agree, free roaming space would be absoultley epic, like if you wanted to go to a planted just use the hyperdrive to get you there, that would be soo cool.
PretentiousPainters 4 months ago
Your space combat is crap right now bioware, fix it
hammy2711 5 months ago 2
weak
TheEskimosPantry 5 months ago
The GAMEPLAY (not story/visuals) of this game look so fail.
AurelePyroan 5 months ago
o god, this isnt nearly as bad as i had feared. I thought they were going medieval as in, KOTOR, where you have the crappy turret and you shoot at the space invader style imperial ships flying figure 8s in front of you. Yeah its still a rail shooter, but at least its more entertaining. Also as people keep saying I bet pvp will come out where you can do some awesome stuff. Just support the game and i gaurentee theyll get around to it!!
MrDeadman9312 5 months ago
Rail shooters = lazy game developers.
vizio37 5 months ago
for the old SWG ppl u guys know that swg dident even have space combat at first but now it has and its all free roam in space and massive, hopefully and probably this game will get full space free roam in an expansion similar to the SWG one, it will be awesome:D
pinkeinke2 5 months ago
Rails...WHY RAILS?
chriscos123 5 months ago
do you guys know how hard it is to make it free roam? I think not.
Bubbafett10 5 months ago
When do you get your ship
legomanfan7777 5 months ago
Asteroids are bad mmkay
gtasasuperman01 5 months ago
Being stuck on rails is better than driving the goddamn Mako at least...
flukenukeem 5 months ago
Only way to make this Rail shit cool....
Have Peppy from starfox Shout
"DO A BARREL ROLL !!!"
DarkMavriik 5 months ago
well.... this space battle is lame .___.
Danarogon 5 months ago
atleast they made space combat guys. come on now dont bash them into the ground they atleast made it while blizzard just recycles content
Zenshia 5 months ago
Looks like it will fuck up my mouse with so many clicks at once. Shoulda gave a ps3 version so we could use siaxis and feel the vibration when we get hit
iceyhands 6 months ago
its the beginning of a new era !!!!!!
mathoyama 6 months ago
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Hustrak 6 months ago
@Hustrak They have already said space combat pvp will come in the first major content patch
MrJeasaWins 6 months ago
@MrJeasaWins any video or interview you could link would be fantastic! if thats true it must mean free roam/sandbox type of space flight i would assume
3rdEyeSpeaks 5 months ago
Is this a joke?? 6 years in development and THIS is the space combat they came up with? Not even something as good as SWG's system? Bioware/EA should be embarassed.
sweetdigs101 6 months ago
@sweetdigs101 its an mmo, plus the space combat is supposed to be a minor distraction, I mean there are 17 planets for gods sake thats a lot of planets.
AfternoonWolfSpice 6 months ago
I love how the enemies fly directly in front of you, so you can get a nice clear shot on them, lol. It's like "please kill us!!!!!"
Liquidzer0 6 months ago 2
Guys, yeah the space combat system is a bit lame, but dont forget that the game is new and it will get updates really often and new expansions will come out, then they will problably make it better. WoW at the beginning had no flying, but now it does. SWTOR may not have free roam now, but it will, just have patience
Epicuner 6 months ago 22
@Epicuner My thoughts exactly. This is just the jumping off point, the expansions will be awesome.
TheKipKadillac 5 months ago
@Epicuner Amen. WoW has developed over the past 7 years since it's been out. Most of the content people praise it for wasn't even around in classic.
Honor and battlegrounds didn't even exist until 6 or 7 months into the game. Flying mounts weren't around until Burning Crusade. There were only two raids in the game upon release: Onyxia (1 boss) and Molten Core.
Many naysayers seem to expect this game to be perfect at launch. It won't be. No MMO is. That's what's great about them - they expand.
GileadsFinest 5 months ago 2
@Epicuner the rail system doesn't seem that bad. It seems like it would make it more action packed, like a movie scene. The problem I have is with the way you control your ship with the cursor. It looks more like a flash game when it should be more like a flight sim.
EricRmd 3 months ago
@Epicuner While admire your optimism, your naivety is unbearable. First off, every MMO to do has had these promises of being the next big thing, and people always swear that the beta is dramatically different than the final version; that it will dramatically change over time as it's patched with updated and that it shall become this shimmering diamond in the rough. It's the same story every time and people keep biting so companies keep spewing out this watered down garbage with a renowned logo
EternalSage07 2 months ago
Whoops, I meant every MMO to date instead of "do."
EternalSage07 2 months ago
@EternalSage07 Pessimism can be quite boring. Sure it's not everything people thought it would be in 2010 but it is still good and it has my money. For me, I'll be happy with it.
Gorgoroth5746 2 months ago
@Gorgoroth5746 I'm not being a pessimist, if anything I'm being a realist. I'm merely reporting what I've learned from over a decade of online gaming; probably about 6 years of which I've played MMOs on and off. MMOs promising innovation and to offer choice to veteran gamers as opposed to the hand-holding of most in the genre. Just because you happen to disagree with me doesn't mean I'm some doomsayer. It could be great, and based on what I've played I did state some reasons for its potential.
EternalSage07 2 months ago
@Epicuner If you like typical MMO play then great--you'll love this game. If you're fine with paying to play a game online and being lured along to a carrot on a stick--more power to ya. Just don't pretend this game is any better than WoW or any of the dozens of MMOs promising to innovate and revolutionize the genre. It's an MMO with a Star Wars skin.
Also, if SWTOR isn't free roam then sorry to inform you, but it's never going to be. The game has to be designed around that from the ground up.
EternalSage07 2 months ago
@Epicuner Another issue I have with your statement is your apparent praise of Blizzard's addition of flying mounts to WoW. This was not an improvement to the game, it trivialized WoW. There was no reason to explore by foot anymore, no challenge to get anywhere or obtain anything outdoors, griefing became easier, and it pretty much killed what little was left of world PvP after battlegrounds came into play. Basically, any and all adventure was lost and instancing became the name of the game.
EternalSage07 2 months ago
@Epicuner
So paying for a game that is in many aspects behind of games of their own fuckin brand? The Old Republic is a shitty to average MMO. They should have made a new Kotor not Frankensteins MMO-Monster.
ValeriaLiviaCaissa 2 months ago
@ValeriaLiviaCaissa the game fucking rules man, you can tell why it cost them 300 million.
I love this freaking game!!
GtheMVP 1 month ago
ATTENTION:
They do intend on revisiting space in it's entirety. The only time you will be doing this rail-shooter (which is the only form of space combat in general atm) is during certain missions, quests, dailies, etc,. They have Space Exploration up on the famed "Wall of Crazy." For those of you who don't know, The Wall of Crazy is a wall of ideas that they plan on visiting or thinking about putting in the game after release.
QWERTYPretzelTwister 6 months ago 8
@QWERTYPretzelTwister I would love to see where you got your sources from...
hammy2711 5 months ago
@hammy2711 You've obviously not been watching the game that much; watch any interview involving the space combat.
QWERTYPretzelTwister 5 months ago
@hammy2711 Whoa no need to get defensive all i'm asking for is a link to where that was officially stated. I have been tracking this topic for a long time and have heard nothing of their plans to change the space gameplay. If you don't have a source to that information, then keep your mouth shut cuz your speculations are misleading.
hammy2711 5 months ago
drugs ar bad mk
darkgod1000 6 months ago
dear bioware, fuck you for ruining space combat in the biggest space trilogy ever created
hammy2711 6 months ago
This is a tragedy.
kristofori 6 months ago
just watched this again.... this is shit....
space combat on rails in 2011? we had free to roam space combat in 2004... wtf Bioware
hammy2711 6 months ago
WTF? I was hoping for more of a X-Wing space sim gameplay. PC gamers are not interested in this Star Fox bullshit.
kanaric 6 months ago
@kanaric Amen.
ssmarine762 6 months ago
And seeing the space platform makes me not want to get this game. How can it be Star Wars without the free roaming space like SWG.
DrunkenGodMode 6 months ago
wtf bioware, starwars galaxies got an expansion in 2004 that's why more advanced then this shit!
Withless92 6 months ago
Another game that wont let you go where you want to go, yay.
imtheking07 6 months ago
@imtheking07 I completely agree... this is an MMO and we should be able to fly and complete objectives how we want to. Not some stupid arcade-like scripted track.
hammy2711 6 months ago
It's like they just found some guy randomly from the street and said "We need you for presentation. Here, wear this shirt on and take the mic."
But wait - is the route you're going to take predetermined? You can't turn around like in space combat simulators? I mean, this just looks like background moves for you and you avoid asteroids like in side-scrolling shooters. They don't even attack him from behind.... Aw crap. There went my hopes.
Desolator84 6 months ago
This had better be a beta, because I hear TIE fighter sound effects. And the guy commentating is terrible. He points out obvious stuff acting like were dumb and don't know that space is dark! Also, I hope it's not always an "on rails" thing. I would really like to be able to move around more.
starflame34 6 months ago
how would this work for pvp?
ryuson2000 6 months ago
@ryuson2000 it wouldnt im guessing its only an add on to an already amazing looking mmorpg
guitarboothy10 6 months ago
Really people...
Everyone complains so damn much about games not being like other games it is annoying. BioWare had nothing to do with SWG or BF2, so say make it more like those games is like saying "Hey you can just can your whole development of a new game and just take these ones, that you had nothing to do with, and repackage them." That approach does not advance games to new levels or raise any bars. Quite crying over senseless things.
DoubtedCarrot 6 months ago
I actually like the rail shooter aspect of it, it's a minigame, not the main attraction. But the one thing I hate is the fact that the ship is smoking and creates noise, no oxygen is space= no sound and no fire. Just kidding, I don't really care.
TheAwesomeIsMyName 6 months ago
On Rails Shooter FTL!!!
Inserthouse 6 months ago
Will I be able to fly Tie Fighters or YT-1300's!?!?!
Inserthouse 6 months ago
@Inserthouse maybe if you wait VERY long time or some how do a time jump
GameVyse 6 months ago
it looks fun, but seriously this is an MMO not some game we play over the weekend and get over it. i can see this being fun for maybe the first week playing but going through space battles like this could get old considering people will play frequently for even 2 years or more.
Mustacio 7 months ago
I wonder if they will allow us to have 1 player starships (fighters) besides POB (the big ones) ships. Sith fighters look awesome!
darket1234 7 months ago
they should have just done SWG or SWB2 space games.
Cabooselol22 7 months ago
All I could think while watching this, was .. KERMIT THE FROG
Haavard993 7 months ago 28
@Haavard993 fuck off faglord go fuck yourself
enspike 6 months ago
@Haavard993 Actually I thought Fozzy. Muppet none the less. He is working for Lucas Arts, though. What do you wanna bet Jim Hensen's Creature Shop made him?
MartialArtsSuperStar 6 months ago
@MartialArtsSuperStar Well, I only know one puppet, to be honest. And that sounds quite logical!
Haavard993 6 months ago
why couldnt they just do a Sweet rehash of Tie Fighter series ... This Space Combat BLOWS, i will not But this game soley based on "Space Combat" this game will have to offer... As a player i should have 360 degrees of movement not some predetermined path... its NOT innovative and its NOT engageing...
Too bad as i was having high hopes for this too...
They should be ahamed... to even concider this TRIPE, for this property.
ghosstman 7 months ago
looks boring as hell, tought this was supposed to be a mmo
Zesazerty 7 months ago
They call that interceptors? I think those are like training drones. They don't seem to shoot at him from behind (which is definitely more convenient to shoot from).
Bl4cKeN1nG 7 months ago
Those long engine trails look horrible, you don't see that crap in the movies.
mitrooper 7 months ago
wow they got the voice of kermit the frog to present :O
ritty666 7 months ago
Guys look, this game has been in Dev. for 4 years. Now look at your options, wait another 4-5 years for Bioware to work ridiculasly hard on a part of the game that's not even a majority of the game, or have it out hopefully in a year or so, with a tunnel shooter space battle... Man, you all complain way to much about Graphics. Its gameplay is what makes the game... Ya'll are truely spoiled by good looking graphics today.
ThePhantomZero0 7 months ago
@ThePhantomZero0 Wtf are u talking about? the gameplay on these space battles looks friggin awful. Reminds of all those horrible arcade shooters in the mid 90s. Like you said they've been working on this for 4-5 years... and this linear crap is what they are serving us.
ssmarine762 7 months ago
@ssmarine762 Its called an RPG not a space battle game... You want free-roam space fighter? Go play EVE.
ThePhantomZero0 6 months ago
How many times did he say "Awesome" in this video? Haha! Seriously though, if you think this looks interesting... You would have loved the 80's. Graphics look sub par to me as well.
I can't believe that Bioware really thought that this was a good idea.
diver0129 7 months ago
This actually looks worse than Rebel Assault 2, and that was an FMV game from the mid 90's. Why do all the fighters come in from behind on the right or left? Bring back Tie Fighter!
yaosio 7 months ago
shame about no free roam space battles, but the graphics look great
TheAxeman1994 7 months ago
3:11 Smoking is bad mkay
1xbabyface 7 months ago
3:13 Smoking is bad mkay
1xbabyface 7 months ago
when does it come out
229tman 7 months ago
you know what on rails space combat means right? NO SPACE PVP!
actransitbusfight 7 months ago
well so much for cool swg-esque space combat
slidefuse 7 months ago
eeh, not to excited with this demonstration, looks waayy to linear, id rather have free roaming battles, this is way to arcade like with the enemy ships flying right in front of u, the graphics look pretty sweet tho.
Nintendo0994 7 months ago
i really hope there's some free roam space battles where you can decide where you want to go in the battle :/
ironman3112 7 months ago
The space in SW-series takes about 50-60 % and they fail horribly like this mini game-wannabe!
At least, they could make it like the Battlefront 2 - space battle with your whole crew in one ship, handling the stearing, defence, guns, power, raiding other ships etc, etc...
sovjettank 7 months ago
He's kermit the frog?
canarycharlwood 7 months ago
why is it most of the enemy interceptors came from his six o clock position, but instead of firing on him took up position in front? is that some futuristic space combat tactic i don't know about or is this mini-game retarded?
iliketha 7 months ago 2
...Its a little scripted mini game?
I really hope not..
Fenirshadow 7 months ago 2
Nice models, but these blaster bolts are looking a bit weird-like these from this ''battle of endor'' freeware thing-it looks like they are not even coming from guns, but just randomly appearing in the space in front of them.
Lamovec 7 months ago 2
I wish it was more like the SWG space system. I know most of swg is boring but space was fantastic!
tpoltuckerS31 7 months ago
Asteroids are bad, m'kay?
digiviceboy 8 months ago
This is weak as hell. How about Battlefront 2 style space combat? That was actually good.
DarkFidelity 8 months ago
I really hope this is not to easy...that kills most MMOs for me they are so easy it gets boring...challenge is good :p
IRONiHonakoo 8 months ago
fuck the terrorists, this is what is going to beat them
kurt9876543210 8 months ago
I like more the type of spaceships with star wars galaxies i saw taht beeing 2 arcade
Kno63 8 months ago
Nood question - Is space combat multiplayer or is it just against AI?
Triggerfinger98 8 months ago
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Triggerfinger98 8 months ago
GALAXIES SPACE COMBAT WAS HORRIBLE. TERRIBLE. NOT FUN.
You could solo a star destroyer with a y-wing... Anyone who thinks SWG space combat is good is a moron, plain and simple
InfestedHobo 8 months ago
@InfestedHobo Luke Skywalker soloed the first Death Star on a x-wing lol
HadesFLG3 8 months ago
@HadesFLG3 Not really, it was like... a whole squadron of rebel fighters. Or terrorist combatants, as USA would phrase it.
kano841 8 months ago
@HadesFLG3
Unlocks the Hard-Mode Avievement: "Luke Starkiller". That´s what his name was in the first place, wasn´t it :)
Brigant70 8 months ago
Dan Erickson = 24 from the Venture Bros?!?!?
My mind is blown.
Nzeexruos 8 months ago
At first I thought "Oh my god a tunnel shooter..." when they revealed the space combat but... To be honest this actually looks pretty cool. Experience, ship upgrades, and rewards? Doesn't sound all that bad. Definitely something new and exciting to do at endgame. :)
SiverlinedPro 8 months ago
I just hate how all the enemy ships come from behind you and they just fly into your sight range without shooting at you at all.
Oblivion170 8 months ago
YOU dont wanna run into asteroids!! ASTEROIDS ARE BAD!! LMFAO!!!
willpu 8 months ago
Daniel Erickson kinda sounds like Kermet the frog here...hehe
but seriously, cant wait for SwToR =D !!!!
holylightpwns99 8 months ago
guy is trying to be a jokester but he is being annoying
hentaikiller 8 months ago
SENTENCE OF THE MILLENIUM: "You don't want to run into asteroids; asteroids are bad..."
brualmroc 8 months ago
I honestly think a space combat system kind of like galaxies' will go a long way but hey it still looks decent.
Evaen21 8 months ago
I wish it was free roaming and not on rails.
SuperDarknut 8 months ago
my girlfriend is going to hate this game...
slumbertable 8 months ago
It looks like a nice break from the regular ground questing portion of the game. I don't think it will be what most players will be spending their time on, but deffinately will be a welcome break.
rextz 8 months ago
Was hopeing for more, but this looks fun too xD
emoJames07 8 months ago
Lol at "wooho" @1:13
It feels dumb, a XS Stock Light Freighter shooting and moving like a Starfighter.
It's like having a B-12 bomber moving and shooting like a P-51.
LOOKS BAAAAAAAD.
I'd rather having no starship battles at all. It feels like they add this shitty gameplay in a hurry just to appease fanbois
ZDBradfield 8 months ago
Nice! Reminds me of Rebel Assault.
Wait... I hated Rebel Assault...
ParticleFX 8 months ago
2:22 "Space is dark." Actually, yes, yes it is. The majority of space is just complete, utter emptiness, not even visible stars.
Berengier817 8 months ago
@Berengier817 Dude its a VIDEO GAME!!!
tkirtsey 8 months ago
@tkirtsey It was a joke.
Berengier817 8 months ago
DO A BARREL ROLL
MrYumchickens 8 months ago
dude sounds like kermit the frog. Bet he gets the chicks. I envy.
CommunistSquirrel 8 months ago
No PvP space combat = Sucks.
YksiSuomalainen 8 months ago
I was hoping for something more like Freelancer, but this looks like fun too :)
OleProduction 8 months ago
Looks boring. Par for the course for Bioware these days.
inkjay 8 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
dont you all know "space is dark"
silent1584 8 months ago
They should add space battles kind of like how it was in Battlefront just for PvP, but the fact this is even in the game surprises me cause its a MMO. Games looking better and better. =P
CptNeenja 8 months ago
take a drink every time someone says "awesome"
steampunkerella 9 months ago
A RAIL SHOOTER!!!!! WHAT THE HELL!!!!!! SPACE COMBAT IS ONE OF THE BEST PARTS OF STAR WARS AND THEY HAD TO RUIN IT!!!!! RAIL SHOOTERS ARE FINE FOR AVERAGE GAMERS, BUT AVERAGE GAMERS DON'T GENERALLY PLAY MMOs!!!!!!! *sigh*
kingtorm2 9 months ago
@kingtorm2 dude this isnt even the main point of the game
ladruner 9 months ago
gaa Star Wars Galaxies had better Space Combat, go where ever the hell you wanted to go and fly around a system doing missions and crap. not Star Fox your way through the Galaxy lol It's called STAR WARS Space battles is what makes the story lol.
Dogmeat1950 9 months ago
they had to ruin it with on rails shooters -_- soo lame
sonic1138 9 months ago
Is it just me who gets annoyed that menus, skills lists and etc all look like WoWs
petloz 9 months ago