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  • I saw a Latvian SSR flag in there. Hooray for Latvia!

  • what is this song?

  • As a German I just can say "that's a parade!" and I love it.

    We are not allowed to do such things anymore.

  • What a paradox! This video is conected with this one watch?v=bKpYBbl4NkM by just another one (quite silly) video.

  • wow such a detailed discussion about ww 2 weapon hardware Im truely impressed

  • Уважаемые! Спорьте между собой.У Вас есть ресурсы для этого. Флудите там сколько влезет.

  • @JohQx3 As someone from supposedly "free" market you would know that this is something what really counts.

  • @TheHobbes01 Free and free....System of whole Nordic countries is to have free education, healthcare etc. and same time having ''free market''. Taxes are high, but at least your life isn't determined by wealth of your family. There's no billionaires in Nordic countries, but there's no homeless people either. Whole system is combination of Socialism and Capitalism.

    About T-34, it wasn't great tank in the battlefield, but mere numbers crushed German Panzer divisions. (continue)

  • @JohQx3

    Right about Scandinavia, I am all for that kind of capitalism. About T-34: When Germany invaded USSR, in 1941, it was far superior to German tanks (or any other country's), only optics, radio, and FCS (fire control system) was inferior. But the design was by far superior. In 1943 Germany committed a huge blunder in building very expensive, unreliable Panther (8 times more expensive than a T-34) and Tiger (9-12 times). Tanks ARE perishable anyway, what the hell the Germans were thinking?

  • @anaplastic Design alone was superior in T-34 when compared to German Panzers. Slopped armor is a really nice add, though it wasn't first time in a tank (M2 and BT-series tanks had it too). 76mm was practicly a joke, it had hard time penetrating even PzIV's armor from further than 10 meters. 85mm gun was an improvement to T-34, though even M4 Shermans did great job against T-34/85's in Korean war. There is no chanse for T-34/85 to take on PzV or VI alone, but with 15 another T-34/85s (continue)

  • @JohQx3

    Come on, it's generally accepted that Pz V and VI were equal to ~3 T-34/85 on the field (not 15, as you say), being 8-12 times more expensive. And a T-34/85 COULD take on PzV or VI, depending on terrain and the crew. The initial 76mm gun on T-34 was NOT a joke, it was better than German anything on tanks (in 1941 PzIV had 50mm pretty weak gun). In fact German tanks (mostly Pz II, III, Czech P35,38, some Pz IV) were so much inferior as design goes to Soviet BT-5,7, T-34, that (continue)

  • @anaplastic That number 15 was just thrown there, just ment that single T-34/85 couldn't match PzV or VI, while thanks to infinite resources of USSR, there would be many more T-34/85's helping. Agreed, 50mm gun on PzIV was poor, and even 75mm KwK L43 had its problems against T-34's (thanks to slopped armor). T-34 was used as ramming tool, as an metal shield or just as an target where Germans need to put 1 ammunition to ( In early war, thats where the 2 days come from). (continue)

  • @anaplastic (continue) Later on in the war, when Germans lacked practicly everything, T-34's weren't destroyed at the same rate (Life expectancy of the crew increased). After all, Germans were on the retreat from 1943->. Transmission was a huge problem on Pz VI, but was it too on Pz V? And yea, cost of Pz VI was some 250 000 Reich's marks, where as Pz IV could be produced for 100 000 Reich's marks. With improved cannon, slopped armor and more effective engine, Pz IV's price would've (continue)

  • @anaplastic (continue) still been about half of the cost of Pz VI. IS 2's A-19 122mm gun had its flaws, ammunation was two-pieced->rate of fire was really low (some 2 shots/minute). SU-100, however, is a tank destroyer, so comparing its 100mm D-10S gun to Pz V's 75mm KwK 42 L70 isn't really fair comparison. Pz V's cost wasn't that high though, ''only'' 120 000 Reich's marks, so difference to Pz IV's cost isn't that big. Think Germans should've stick with Pz V's from the beginning.

  • @JohQx3

    Here some people dislike that we are flooding with our comments, but I will continue a bit.

    I knew those price tags for Pz IV,V,VI, but seriously, something was screwed up with German manufacturers. Pz IV was objectively MUCH cheaper to produce than Pz V. For example, the tolerance in most components was two times higher for Pz IV. Pz V, VI are simply different tech age compared to Pz IV (and almost all tanks of WWII). If in Pz VI the transmission was the main problem, in Pz V(continue)

  • @JohQx3

    in Pz V drivetrain was a huge issue, that and the difficulty of servicing larger failures in the field (need for turret removal to properly get at broken drives). Panzer units equipped with Panther were not able to sustain an operational readiness rate above 40-50%. More Panthers were lost to mechanical problems than to enemy combat. The transmission system was also poor, 5 percent broke within 100km, 80-90 percent broke down within 1,500km. That is NOT to say Panther was a bad design.

  • @JohQx3

    Panther was the best design of a tank in WWII, but it simply was an unfinished affair, same with Pz VI.

    Then, in combat, the expensive Pz V, VI, by 1944, were facing T-34/85 (which were still dangerous in numbers), IS-2 and SU-100. As for SU-100, its D-10S gun WAS tried on tanks (T-34-100, T-44-100, KV-100, and IS-2 (obyekt 245)), and was planned for mass production on tanks by Spring 1945. Both Germans and Soviets were extensively using tank destroyers, one has to count them too.

  • @JohQx3

    In 1941 German officers asked for a tank with superior mobility and gun to the T-34. What they ended up with was a 45-70 ton tanks with a petrol engine, front wheel drive, bad transmission, a complex set of interleaved road wheels.

    I don't know how the prices were set in Reich corporations, but to me now, as to some German officers back then, it's pretty clear that Germany needed an improved Pz IV with KwK 42 L/70 Panther gun, and a tank destroyer with KwK 43 L/71 King Tiger gun.

  • @anaplastic Im still having trouble to accept comparison between tank destroyed gun and medium tank gun, though it would've been tried to put into other medium/heavy tanks later on. If your numbers on Pz V's operational readiness and transmission are correct, it sure was a huge set back for Pz V. Would really like to know why is there so small price difference between Pz IV and V, but even if those number would be accurate, constant repairs of Pz V would increase the price a lot (continue)

  • @anaplastic (continue) Scenario of Germany having Pz IV's with KwK 43 L70 and cheaper tank destroyer than Jagdpanther (maybe improved StuG IV?) with KwK 43 L71 would be interesting to observe. I'm just having my doubts would've it really made a difference in war against USSR with practicly infinite resources. After all, even Pz V or Vi with their huge flaws were able to halt or slow down enemy attacks quite often.

    But yea, better not flood the comments much more :)

  • @JohQx3

    it's due only to extreme German tactical competence in 1941 that they didn't lose all their armor on the field. Soviets suffered from bad communication and FCS on their tanks, and were pretty incompetent in 1941 using their tanks. T-34 life expectancy in 1943-45 was NOT 2 days, where did you get that? The problem is the opposite, the Germans relied too much on survival of such "jewels" as Pz V, VI, as though it was some chivalry competition. It was not, tanks perish for many reasons.

  • @JohQx3

    By 1944, Pz IV Ausf. H was as good as a T-34/85, and Germans had in stock the exceptional KwK 42 L/70 Panther gun which made quite a difference on the field. They never fitted this gun on Pz IV. One could only think of thus improved, mass produced, cheap Pz IV. Yes, it needed a better chassis, a much better engine (T-34 V12 diesel 500hp engine was very much superior to Pz IV engine ). Tech needed to build Pz IV was not too advanced for WWII, it was a pretty rugged, reliable, cheap tank.

  • @anaplastic (continue) behind your back it was possible. Germans copied slopped armor from T-34, agreed on that part. Good tank crew means a lot too when comparing performances of tanks. Within those few jewels Germans produced, tank crews survived and became more experienced, while in T-34's, which life expectancy was some 2 days, crews were always unexperienced. Your idea about improving PzVI sounds really intriguing...and effective. Wonder what would've cost of that kind of tank been?

  • @JohQx3

    As for an improved Pz IV, it was an idea of German field officers, never fully applied. Pz V, VI were unfinished, too advanced for WWII projects, good for 1950es. These tanks needed top-notch tech of their time, it's NOT how one wins a total war. Pz V, VI had many problems, driving system, transmission, in need to be developed further. They were VERY expensive. What was the point? IS-2 and SU-100 (check its gun) came to match them. German officers were right asking for an improved Pz IV

  • @TheHobbes01 (continue) If Germany would've produced same kind of cheap tanks, USSR would've crushed them with more cheap tanks. USSR had many times more resources available than Germany had. Germany had to build few jewels than hundreds of scrap metals. Cost of a tank isn't all that matters, because if everybody has same kind of tanks, numbers alone choose the winner. Germany tried to beat quantity with quality, but didn't manage to.

  • @JohQx3

    On tanks: T-34 WAS a great tank, to the extent that even in 1942 Germans thought of copying it. Improved, but still cheap T-34/85 (improved gun/turret/armor) by the end of 1943 was still a formidable tank, which could, in good hands, take on superior, but very expensive and unreliable Panthers and Tigers.

    Germans COULD have done much better by sticking to the cheap PzKw IV of 1940, enabling it with the KwK 42 L/70 Panther gun (an exceptional gun), thicker, slopped armor, better engine.

  • I remember watching this video when it had just 300.000 views.And it still gives me an adrenaline rush,every time.

  • Why does the U.S say god bless america, why not god bless, or god bless the world? Why does god only love america and nobody else?

  • @alexcandy1411 good point, same reason Jews believe they are the chosen people, and any other people believe they are numero 1 =D

  • But Citadel was stopped!

  • The T-34 defeated Nazi Germany the Germans had a Hell of a time dealing with this tank.The German Panther was their answer but mechanical problems plaqued the Panther at Kursk in 1943.Operation Citadel the Germans attempted a pincer strategy,luckily for the free world the Soviets had learned of Citadel in advance and the Germans grinned themselves to pieces against a Soviet defense indepth.Thousands of Soviet T-34s were destroyed.

  • @Soviettanklover Hell of a time with dealing with T-34? Hardly, more like hell of the time dealing with hundreds of T-34's. Only good thing in T-34 was the fact it was cheap enough to be produced in huge numbers.

  • The shame is that the USSR didnot have this when they most needed it,in 1941!

  • Look at what America faced in 1984!The powerful T-72 with it's gigantic 125 mm main gun,notice how fast and agile this tank is.America bragged about defeating Saddam's copies in 1991,well Saddam's copies fired much cheaper much less effective shots,not the more expensive more effective Tungstan.Saddam's armor had no air cover.In a war with the Soviets it would have been very different than the war with Saddam.The T-72 is a beauty!

  • Плакать хочется от горечи за свою Страну.

    Эх, Красная Армия, не уберегла ты ни себя ни Родину.

    Где же вы теперь боевые знамёна, стальные танки, быстрые самолёты, могучие корабли?!...

    Всё распродали , распилили или сдали в музей.

    Лишь жалкая тень осталась от былого могущества, но и она ещё позволяет людям спокойно ложиться спать, зная , что завтра проснутся живыми, что не будут сыпаться бомбы на наши города. Но это , к сожалению, только пока....

  • <Socialist

  • maybe they are manipulate but soviet system is the most cruel in all history read solzenitzin, in ussr you can go for no reason no crime nothing wrong to 25 years to work camp called lagier and when you finish youre judgement (if you survived) somebody tells you that socialism russia gives you another 25 years as a repeat....

  • nice, they spent billions on the military while the people starved, anyone that is in awe of this is as nuts as the russians. the quickest empire to fall.

  • @MrSilverb4ck Starved people in the Soviet Union? Hahahahaha

  • @TheSeriesOnline

    what do you think happened as the whole country went bankrupt? research a little rather than laughing like the insane!

  • SALUTE!!! THE CCCP!!!

  • I love Soviet weaponry,I love their tanks,great T-72 pics here.In 1973 Mosha Dyan said this is not a war against the Arab,it is a war against Soviet weaponry.And the Arabs had the state of the art Soviet Saggers and SAMs,but the Arabs were dumb when it came to fighting wars,they drove their tanks towards the Bar-lev line like they were in a parade!!!!!The Israelies excelled at armored warfare and air combat,

  • mighty russian brothers hail from serbia!!!:)

  • EPIC = soviet union

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  • f**k soviet union, f**k socialist, f**k red, communist kills in all history from 20 milions to 70 milions people. Russian soviets are socialist like nazi germany they are both socilaits. F**k Russia with the stupieds people in the world, only there comunism could born, they even now belive in an idea off comunism, USSR it's not funny iff you think it;'s funny and intresting you can move to the north korea to live there all communism was like there.

  • @thepierun1

    1. You are a complete idiot on this subject.

    2. BLUE IS SHIT. RED = MIGHTY.

    3. 70 Million? BULLSHIT ALERT, MASSIVE BULLSHIT ALERT. Yeah. NEVER HAPPENED. Get over your fucking Nixon propaganda.

    Socialism is not the same as Faschism.

    Faschism doesn't control what I produce for the state, Socialism does.

    USSR is very different to N.Korea who is just mini-China.

  • @RyanBrooksby Maybe you don't know history, i dont care what nixon says, i just read books like solzenitzin, only in 1930's in ukraine died 6 milions people because soviets take away all off food to sell abroad and build factorys to build military force to start war. Stalin wanted to start war but hitler was faster then he. Off course fascism is like comunism. They both have red flags, hitler party was called Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, stalin also killed many jews

  • @thepierun1 Not only Ukraine, Russians died too. There was also a drought.

  • @thepierun1 And what about the US Goverment? They are the best manipulators on the planet. They start civil wars in undeveloped countries by selling weapons, they control their population using the influence of the media, their bankers start crisis that afect all capitalist coutries, including mine, and after all the shit they do they still blame USSR for multiple crimes while they hide theirs from the public opinion. I hope to be alive to see Mother Russia as a superpower again.

  • @thepierun1 Are you from Poland?

  • USSR 'll be back.Sialin and imperia forever !

    

  • @alevtim imperia? 

  • @alevtim

    Russians love to gloat over their victory in Georgia, but a Georgian will always hold the record for having killed the most Russians than anyone else in recent history!

  • @493175001 Чем похваляешься, суслик? Убийствами??

  • Excellent choice of music!

  • awesome music,awesome parade! Epic)

  • If the people take back the power from the modern capitalist Russian government, Dmitry Medvedev and Putin should be executed for playing part in the 1990 coup, orchestrating and carrying out the Russo-Chechen war and being so damned corrupt, only then will the Soviet states return, all do not the same, but better than the federation.

  • USSR should come back.

  • 2:04 real awesome ! soviet russia, rise again!

  • Mother Russia we will never forget your glorious days and we are forever grateful for your triumph over the Nazis! R.I.P Soviet Union 1917 - 1990

  • @Jkmaitre08 Triumph? You make it sound like they won alone. Russia would be in pieces if not for US and England suplying them.

    And Mothers russia greatest days were killing millions people coz having other opinion. Rest in pieces, mother russia, and burn in hell.

  • @Carthoo Mother Russia > Czech Republic.

  • @Carthoo Yes, Stalin killed milions of people, he can burn in hell. Every one knwoes this because it is in every 9th grade history book. But let me tel you something that you dont know: while the vietnam war was under way, the US goverment had given autorisation to conduct a secret war agains a comunist moviment in LAOS (neighbour of Vietnam) called Patetlau. During this black operation, the US air force droped bombs over their territory from 8 to 8 minutes, killing aprox. 2milion civilians

  • @Carthoo Continuation of my former comentary:

    This is what history books don´t tell you, this is what the goverment doesn´t want you to know. They create public enemies, with the help of the media of course, and prevent people from thinking. You might think that propaganda only exists in dictatorship regimes, but the publicity and the education sistem are the subliminar propaganda of the "democracy".

  • @Jkmaitre08 1917-1991

  • two guys arguing below sigh......

  • Бойтесь призрака СССР проклятые западники и либералы! Империя вернётся! так будет!

  • The truth is that the Russian people know what true sacrifice is millions fought and died fighting the Nazi's in WW2 more loses than any other country

    So long as no one poke's the mighty Russian bear they wont invade you or take your oil and resources so you have nothing to worry about

    America on the other hand has quite literally killed the world with it's corrupted banking systems and hunger for resources and then don't get me started on the lies they tell WMDs in Iraq Nukes in Iran

  • @MrJst007

    The truth is that both Russia and America are both fucked up in some way. Stop trying to make the Russian people seem blameless because the Polish, Latvians, and others would disagree with you.

  • @TheCanadianPrairies

    Let me clarify a few things

    I'm not trying to make the Russians seam blameless all I am saying is that they know what true sacrifice is

    they had fought many a war before ww1 and ww2 look at the history then you only need to see what I mean the mongols ,Napoleon etc

    has the USA ever fought that many battles for it's land

    some 20+ million Russians and Eastern European peoples fought the Nazis and won and lets not forget the mongols and Napoleon

  • @MrJst007

    I am in no way denigrating the Russian people or their history. I am not Russophobic.

    I am only saying that it seemed you were willing to bypass Russian faults. All I know is that Russia has had its good and bad parts. So has America, etc.

  • @TheCanadianPrairies

    yes I agree with you on that as well all nations have good or bad points

  • While this looks impressive, these parades were merely facades to try and intimidate other countries. Communism hasn't worked out for any country at all. It has always lead to poverty, unhappiness, autocracies, and famine. Look at North Korea, Cuba, and China, North Korea relies on other countries to feed its dying population, China isn't faring any much better, and Cuba is just a mess. Only when communism is done correctly is it going to be effective, a pure communal country would be a miracle.

  • @Smokles3

    Funny how you mention Cuba, being that UNICEF has concluded it is one of the very few countries free of malnutrition, and where medical care is free, whereas in other coutries if you dont have insurance you might as well die. This is all with the embargo that the USA is hellbent to keep on the island. So imagine where would they be were they not to have the embargo...the more you know...

  • Russian warriors

  • Я ХОЧУ ЛИЧНО НАВЕСТИ ВСЕ РАКЕТЫ ЧТО У НАС ОСТАЛИСЬ НА ПЕНДОСИЮ И НАЖАТЬ НА КНОПКУ! ЭТИ СВОЛОЧИ НЕ ЗАСЛУЖИВАЮТ ЖИЗНИ ЗА ТО ЧТО СОТВОРИЛИ С МОЕЙ РОДИНОЙ!!!!!!!!

  • Reagan 1, Communism 0

  • @LanceBeckman Communism 1840 - Present Day, Reagan 1911 - 2004 Winner - Communism

  • @UnbreakableDJ93

    ROFL, are you suggesting that Communism won when Reagan outlived the Soviet Union, the very heart of Communism?

    How does Reagan's death imply Communism won anything? You are one class act, mugu.

  • @TheCanadianPrairies

    What did Reagan win? If not for Gorbachev, you would still shit your pants in cellars. It was a reform by Gorbachev, who saw that the the totally centralized economic system is not beneficial to population. You guys always imagine that you won something, WWII or Cold War, crap like this. WWII was won by the Soviets, and later the Soviets dissolved for the better quality of life of the population, an internal affair of USSR. Stop crapping pants in cellars with your wins LOL

  • @anaplastic

    I never said Reagan won anything at all.

    I'm merely poking fun at how this guy thinks Reagan dying in 2004 means Communism won when the Soviet Union was dead by 1991.

    Try to read before you post shit, son. It will do you a lot of good.

    (Also, WWII was won by the Soviets, British, and the others generally known as ALLIES. Crikey!)

  • @TheCanadianPrairies

    Communism is not Soviet Union, and Reagan did indeed died in 2004 crapping his pants at his death, like he did all his life of a porn-star. I bet even Communism is better and more lively now than a dead porn-star Reagan.

    And WWII was won by USSR SOLELY, not by some Anglo-Americans with a contribution no larger than that of Madagascar. Maybe Madagascar won WWII? To be clear for brain-dead porn-star admirers: WWII was Soviet-Nazi war, and Soviets won decisively.

  • @anaplastic

    The Soviet Union was the heart of Communism, and, lol, are you shitting on the contributions of the Western Allies? Really now? The ones who funded Soviet Russia with Land Lease?

    MANY nations fought together in solidarity against Hitler. West, East, North, South, it doesn't matter. Go tell the veterans of America, Canada, UK, France, China, etc that their heroism meant fuck all.

    Me, a Reagan fan? LOLWUT? I don't have any particular attachment to that guy, bucko.

  • @TheCanadianPrairies

    What did Americans do against Nazis? Are you joking? 0.15 million deaths compared to Soviet 25 million, not even 1%? What American veterans? Veterans of what? Of drinking coffee in Paris? There are more Vietnam war veterans in USA than WWII veterans there were ever, and there are almost no vets who saw the fight. With your 1% contribution, stop crapping about WWII, Anglo-Americans were NOT part of this war, no more than Madagascar. Did Madagascar win WWII? Stay put there!

  • @anaplastic

    The Allies were comprised of MANY nations across the world. The United States, (who fought against Japan) Britain (who bravely stood alone in the early 40s), France (who fought on against Hitler), China (who fought against Japan), and I can go on and on with this. You don't get what the term "World War" is supposed to mean, do you?

    It's disgusting how you minimize and degrade the deeds of many nations' men, including my own (Canada).

    Fuck off with your bullshit.

  • @TheCanadianPrairies

    LOL Canadians won WWII ! The war against Japan was irrelevant, look at their tanks, guns, planes, hell, even rifles, the Japan was weaker militarily than even Italy in WWII. That Anglo-Americans were the level of Italy or Brazil militarily, and they fought for 4 years Japan, it's their business of incompetence. When Soviets turned on Japan, they solved the problem in 2 weeks. Anglo-Americans were NOT part in WWII, they at most had some coffee in Paris, called "veterans" LOL

  • @anaplastic

    You are one hell of a stupid person.

    By the time the Soviets invaded, dipshit, Japan was already weak as shit. They had conquered vast amounts of land (Indochina, East Indies, etc) before they were gradually incapable of doing anything but delaying the inevitable. That is why the Soviets had such success against the Japanese; the Americans had already done most of the work against them alongside British and Chinese forces.

  • @anaplastic

    The war against Japan was irrelevant?

    You really do like pissing all over people's histories, do you? I don't think even Chinese Communists would like you doing that, considering how their forefathers fought bravely in an apparently irrelevant war against Japan which brought to light sick shit like Unit 731.

    The Soviets only invaded Japan after America, etc did most of the work. THAT is why the Soviets had successes against an already weakened foe.

    Lrn2history.

  • @TheCanadianPrairies

    Japan was weaker than Italy in WWII (again take from tanks to rifles, did you do your homework?), o third rate nation with whom brave Anglo-Americans fought for 4 years. That is saying a lot about Anglo-Americans, and their 0.8% contribution in WWII. When Soviets turned on Japan, they annihilated in 2 weeks a Japanese group of armies larger than Anglo-Americans had faced on any battlefield in their history, not only WWII.

    Anglo-Americans were NOT part in WWII. Period

  • @anaplastic

    The Japanese were a third rate nation? Yeah, totally. That's why they engulfed a lot of the Pacific, doing better than Italy ever did, and that's why they made China their bitch till they realized that the war wasn't going to end according to their plans.

    If Anglo-Americans were not part of World War II, why did Stalin refer to the British AND Americans throughout the war? Why did Stalin consider himself to be a member of the Allies with them?

  • @anaplastic

    In terms of training, the Kwangtung Army at this time was more so a counter-insurgency force rather than a typical military force, thus it was poorly prepared to defend against such an invasion. Stalin made a promise to the Western Allies to enter the war against Japan within three months of the end of the war in Europe, a promise that he kept.

    And yet the Anglo-Americans were not part of the World War? Why then would Stalin consult them of all people?

  • @anaplastic

    "That is saying a lot about Anglo-Americans, and their 0.8% contribution in WWII."

    "Anglo-Americans were NOT part in WWII. Period."

    So they were both not in the war yet in it?

    Which is it?

    You've got to be a troll, or just another indictment of the unfortunate truth that it's easy to spout shit behind a keyboard without an Anglo-American/Chinese/Other man punching your lights out.

  • @TheCanadianPrairies

    That an extremely weak Japan took half-a-Pacific tells about the state of the Pacific and the crappy USA war effort. It took USA 4 years to approach Japan on equal terms, a Japan the force of Italy or Poland. Anglo-American participation in WWII is unimaginably weak, 0.8% of the total Soviet military effort. If you wish to call 0.8% an Ally of Soviet 99.2%, then be it, every normal human being says that Anglo-Americans were NOT part of WWII.

  • @anaplastic

    Anglo-Americans were not part of WWII?

    Yet why did the Soviet Red Army meet the Anglo-American forces at the Elbe around Torgau?

    Yet why did Stalin meet with the Anglo-American leaders at Potsdam and Yalta?

    Yet why did Stalin consort with the Anglo-Americans after the war to divide Germany?

  • @TheCanadianPrairies

    Are you saying me to learn history? Do you there in USA and Canada have at least some reasonable history? Not much, eh? You were NOT part in WWI and not part in WWII, every so called American WWII "veteran" is a liar and a charlatan, he had a coffee in Paris at most, if not in London only. USA and Canadian so called WWII "veterans" should be charged of dishonoring those who actually fought and died in WWII. Those charlatans cannot pass away without lying?

  • @anaplastic

    Four members of the Canadian Corps received Victoria Crosses, the highest military decoration awarded to British and Commonwealth forces for valor, for their actions during the battle of Vimy Ridge (WW1).

    "The sun has risen on many a dead Canadian this morning."

    - From Officer of Divisional Train, April 23rd, 1915

    There is the Canadian Vimy Ridge Memorial.

    The Dutch still fondly remember Canadian help in their liberation. They won't like your BS at all.

  • @TheCanadianPrairies

    Who cares about Canadians in ANY war? More so in WWII? Crap, undeserving, so called "veterans" on a trip to Europe to eat better food than Canadian junk, have some girls, and rape a woman here and there. Almost no Canadian soldiers were assigned frontline and fighting. Those decorated are for logistic stuff, like feeding other Canadians in Paris or relaxing on the beaches. Are you joking? This is not even 0.00001% of the Soviet effort, and less than the effort of Somalia.

  • @anaplastic

    I have better things to do with my time then to deal with you any further.

    You are just some troll. Probably that's why you never present any evidence to prove your claims.

    Communism still sucks, btw. LOL.

  • @TheCanadianPrairies

    Sure Communism sucks, but Anglo-Americans suck even harder. They never achieved anything worth remembering, and they will never be remembered in the not so distant future. Certainly not for having a coffee in Paris during WWII.

  • @anaplastic

    first telephone companies (Alexander G Bell -> Bell Telephone Company)

    first military computers (developed during/after WWII by the DARPA dudes w/ the british)

    first home computers (bill gates, p allen, steve jobs -> Microsoft, Apple)

    first internet companies (yahoo, amazon, google, now facebook & youtube)

    first automobile companies (see Manufacturing Belt around the great lakes)

    first nukes (Manhattan project)

    first moon landings (Apollo project)

    I'm sure that's worth remembering

  • @pedroissler

    LOL

    You guys have no historical perspective. Who remembers when and where the first toilet was invented? Or first clock? What is remembered is, for example, that Greeks had a great culture, and stopped Persians, setting up the future glory of Europe. Russians, Germans, French, Italians had great cultures, which will last as testimony forever. Soviets (who cares that they were commies? - only those retard Anglo-Americans) stopped and annihilated the barbarian and murderous Nazis.

  • @pedroissler

    So keep dreaming about your USA invented PC, some more educated, more enlightened folks have better dreams. USA will not be remembered more than a name in history books like we remember today Antioch. You don't even know what Antioch is, right? It was a sort of USA in ancient times, the most economically "advanced" country. The first public illumination was there, the most cereals per capita and so on. Who the frack cares? Greece and Romans of those times are remembered.

  • @anaplastic You've got a point, even though what you're saying applies to everyone. I was presuming you knew these things are well beyond our time scope.

    The United States was the first successful historical attempt to unite people from different european countries under one roof, one state. Plus the US was the country in which capitalism was most successful in the history of mankind, so you can say american capitalism will be the model role for generations to come.

  • @pedroissler

    Not correct. American capitalism is NOT the example set, the Northern European capitalism IS the general trend. I can argue this by numbers. In 1900, the State (by taxes) controlled in USA 3% of GDP, in Germany 20% of GDP, in Sweden 30% of GDP. Now the numbers are: USA: 27% of GDP, Germany 45% of GDP, Sweden 55% of GDP. The trend in the last 100+ years was towards Sweden and not USA. It is reasonable to assume that USA in 100 years will resemble today's Sweden.

  • @anaplastic What do you mean by the trend? America has grown spectacularly in the last century that's undeniable. Ok, we didn't face the nazis head on like the Soviet Union did. Even in the pacific war, we didn't really fight it out we were more like air/naval support (not to diminish our veterans they're all very brave).

    It is very easy to mobilize an economy for war: print out ration cards, mobilize your steel resources to manufacture weapons and make sure everyone is well indoctrinated.

  • @anaplastic Mobilizing your economy for a war is not the hard part, that's not complicated. Sure, the people will suffer, but when they did not. Things started to go awry after the war ended. People started to ask questions: why communism, why isn't there any other party, where are our freedoms, why can't we disagree, why are there political comissars?

    It's easy to be obedient when all you've got to do is advance forward, things get more complicated though when you have to rebuild everything.

  • @anaplastic I'd say, no doubt, you're right, the soviets and the chinese were the true war heroes. It has always inspired me to see these movies german lines advancing shooting and shouting 'untermensch' while these people fought until the end and won.

    Be reasonable though, to accept that we don't live in a perfect world, that people have inbuilt flaws and needs that can't be changed, that people will put their interests before anything, and that there's no for a Red Army in times of peace.

  • @anaplastic "no need for*"

    I accept your interpretation of WW2 about who took the blow and fought the hardest, in fact, I always did because that's the truth

    Accept though, that american style capitalism is the way to go. That open door policy thing got so many ex-communist countries in East/S. East Asia to manufacture electronic components in the 1980's and now they're growing at astounding rates.How Now everything is made in China

    Sure, there's still a long way to go, but we'll get there

  • @anaplastic Also, you can't measure war intensities by death toll only. Air warfare is one of the most expensive forms of war, that consumes most of the armed forces budget along with naval yet what are the death tolls? 1 airplane - 1 pilot.

    Sadly, we can't measure war damage only in terms of loss of life.

    A dead soldier equals how much an average soldier of his rank would generate in services for the army in the end, that's the sad truth.

    Capitalism has made its way into warfare, unequivocally.

  • @pedroissler

    It's exactly this mirage of some abstract planes, aircraft carriers, cruisers that make Pacific theater engagements seem important. How much territory and population they can conquer? The largest conquered territory by USA against Japan and the largest battle was Okinawa. The losses of a carrier or other goods are no more important than the losses of buildings and depos in a land warfare. Who bore the brunt of even these material losses against Axis? Not talking of human losses.

  • @anaplastic Historically speaking the soviet Union could've easily conquered mainland Europe (Italy and France) if it wasn't for the fact that the United States had atomic bombs. Sure they had troops stationed there but the Red Army would've simply swept everything and everyone in a frenzy. History could've been very different if it wasn't for project Manhattan.

  • @pedroissler

    Sure, USA nukes denied the Soviets, who were overwhelmingly stronger militarily than NATO, the possibility of invading the whole Europe. But first, it is questionable if Soviets in fact would have invaded, I am guessing a more limited action like taking the whole Germany or so. Second, Soviets after Stalin,were no fanatics and not so absurd as to make hell out of the lives of their subjects. In fact, when economic growth stalled, in 70-80es, Soviets disintegrated by their own will.

  • @anaplastic Economically speaking, though, from 1960 onwards, the USSR couldn't keep up, growth rates were too low. Everyone got their pay, sure, education and health care was public, free and universal, but communism is as inefficient as fuck, economically speaking. You won't work as hard because in the end of the day everyone will get the same pay.Communism's mistake was to assume that human nature could be changed, it can't. Every person is unique and doesn't like to be told what to do.

  • @pedroissler

    I am not talking of the communist economic system, which was good for USSR for say 20-40 years, but was wrong in the long term. I am talking of the type of capitalism, because some kind of capitalism is the only way to go. Read my numbers in the previous post. The modern and the future type of capitalism is not modeled on USA type of capitalism. It is modeled in the Northern Europe type capitalism (Sweden). Every developed country slowly approaches this, moderate and humane type.

  • @pedroissler

    The USA type of savage capitalism with high inequalities and very unequal opportunities is maybe a model for some developing countries like Nigeria or Brazil. Most developed countries, at least in Europe, have a long-time trend towards a moderate and social capitalism, low inequality, high welfare. This trend is unavoidable for USA too, if USA doesn't go nuts at all. Obama is making good steps in modernizing USA. The days of savage capitalism are over for developed countries.

  • @pedroissler

    By early 1980es, before Gorbachev, the high circles in USSR decided to call of the communism there. The real economic growth was at unacceptable 1-2% per year. It was Andropov, the chief of the KGB, and the largest part of KGB and the communist party, who first took steps towards abolition of communism, before Gorbachev. The plan was to have a downturn for 10-15 years, but now Russia enjoys a long-term 6-8% annual growth. Russia lost only the Baltic states, the rest are inside CIS.

  • @anaplastic Baltic states will be very soon members of Euroasian Economic Commonwealth, with Russia and China as the core.

  • @anaplastic bwaa!!! the US has done alot more on this planet that will be remembered then any russian. you did not stop the nazis by yourselves "comrade". you did it with the help of the allies. you took berlin but we're only able to due in part to the progress the US, UK and the others had made. you will be remembered,just not for much

  • @soflo23

    USA in a historical perspective is garbage. Nothing, absolutely nothing will remain, or maybe your crappy green paper, called dollar LOL? Colored, useless, meaningless papers don't last. What will last is the Continental Europe, from Spain to Russia. Great cultures.

    USA contribution in WWII is no larger than that of Ethiopia, go check in Wiki Ethiopia's contribution in WWII, retard Anglo-Saxon.

  • @soflo23 May I remember you that the "Allies" have only desembarked in Normandy to prevent France from falling to the influence zone of the Soviet Union, so, Shut the fuck up, you don´t know what you are saying

  • @anaplastic

    Saying me to learn history?

    You ought to learn grammatical structure too.

    The Anglo-Americans landed at Normandy in D-Day (which Stalin demanded they do years prior during, geez, I don't know, the Second World War?) and Canadian, American, British, and Polish forces were part of that offensive against the Third Reich.

    Ever hear of the Battle of the Bulge? D-Day? Operation Sealion? Anglo-American offensives against the Africa Korps?

  • @TheCanadianPrairies

    D-Day? LOL What that was about? Some 120 German reservists and elders shooting at Anglo-American "veterans" after the war practically ended? Are you joking? D-Day could have happened in 1955 or today, with the same effect. Soviets met Anglo-Americans because Germans wanted to surrender to Anglo-American prison officials, not to Soviet Army. What Soviets met were Anglo-American prison MP and medical staff assisting Germans, Anglo-Americans in Europe were NOT a fighting force

  • @anaplastic i was expecting a decent debate but obviously your a douche bag that does not knw history. lets be real....the US is the most gangster country in the world. U have to be hard as fuck to live in these streets. trust me. no pussy brit will ever knw unless he moves here and sees wut its about. brits.... u have knw idea. fuck ur little soccer hooliganism. soft as fuck

  • @soflo23

    LOL

    USA folks are small, peaceful pussies, with a big mouth, like every pussy. The look more like some kids to Europeans, some sort of grown idiots. You really can't compete as human quality goes with Europeans, genetically, educationally, physically and morally. Just sit out there on your large island, competing with Mexicans.

  • @anaplastic wow and what do you base your ignorant statement on? where the fuck are you from that gives you the idea that Americans are pussies?

  • @soflo23

    Okay, if you WANT to be surrounded by black hooligans, then we sure as hell don't mind.

    We'd prefer to be safe over mugged, ty.

  • @soflo23 Gangster...I have lived in the US for 12 years and no, its not *Ganster*. Its either a bunch of niggers who will stab one another and can't spell for shit nor even think logically, or kids that fucking shave their heads and then wear hoodies acting like they're tough shit, but actually go to Private Schools and have parents that drive Maseratis.

    Also, apparently the heaviest shit they do here is Cigarettes or Weed. Fucking pussies.

  • @MultiAREE lol. where u live buddy east cupcake? where are there pussies in america.u probably spent ur youth in some suburban neighborhood while your mom drove u to school in a mini van. i mean since u know what goes on in private schools and all. they heaviest shit is weed and cigarettes? where in grade school? dude wtf are u talking about? the nigs only make 17% of the country actually and so it not filled with them. any day u wanna come to miami, ill meet u and introduce u to some "pussies"

  • @soflo23 First of all before even actually attempting to comprehend that pile of shit that you call text, I am going to tell you to learn to fucking spell.

    I have been in Miami, and I am not going to be a fucktard and exchange insults, but just say: Watching 7 Mexicans beat some one else's ass at the same time, not very impressive.

  • @RadharcMarbh

    I'm starting to get the impression he's quite the troll, or he's just one hell of a goddamn loser who knows he'd get the shit kicked out of him if he said this shit in public.

  • @TheCanadianPrairies The Heart of Communism was Marx and Engels if I'm not mistaken. The Idea was created by them and it does not simply die just because a Nation did. Fool.

  • @UnbreakableDJ93

    You mean the nation that never practiced the ideas of men who were preceded centuries before by similar ideas?

  • do not go to the toilet in the 31st december at 23:59 coz you'll go out in the next year

  • да. страна казалась незыблемой. пик могущества СССР.

  • peace

  • Im from Yugoslavia, and i must say Communism in Yugoslavia was "acceptable" in contrast

    with Soviet style communism, also our leader TITO was only person on world who survived

    after saying "NO" to Stalin hehe

  • Такая, ведь, держава была!

  • Soviet uniform is the best

  • let's remember CCCP as a strong militare force!

  • @NerzhulOficial and scientific..too..

  • The march was as long as a Russian waiting for a loaf of bread. Poor CCCP.

    

  • Loser!!! USSR

  • we will rise again,slava CCCP!

  • I just love this video. Sets the mood so correctly, brings the moments to so right. Another thing I'm finding rather odd is how religious Russia is becoming. Things sure have changed since the Soviet Union. But alas, like the saying goes,"If you don't miss the Soviet Union, you have no heart, but to want it back means you have no brain."

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  • @LubnanForever fuck face this was 1984 WAY after stalin was dead so go rant somewere else. BTW fuck you i bet ur not even czechsloakia if u dont even know your nations name

  • @CommunistSovietChris We in Czechoslovakia (and now the Czech Republic) know what Soviet occupation looked like. We also know communism from first hand. We "enjoyed" all forms of repression communist system can offer for several decades. You invaded us with tanks, we defeated you with human rights and democracy.

  • @LubnanForever LOL Democracy and human rights in the Czech Republic? I probably live in another Czech Republic than you.

  • @LubnanForever Вашу маленькую страну всегда будут эксплуатировать государства более сильные! Сейчас вас ебут американцы , а вам мне кажется все равно

  • @CommunistSovietChris What are you talking about he wrote it right, Czechoslovakia and Czech Republic.It is you who has an error in the word.It is not czechsloakia it is Czechslovakia.

  • Of course, it is an epic parade with an epic music. Fact that the USSR brutally invaded and occupied our country (Czechoslovakia) for more than 20 years is other thing. Funny is that the author in beginning of the video did not use real picture of Stalin but only picture of an actor playing Stalin in old propagandist film from Czechoslovakia.

  • красиво !!!

  • CCCР THE BEST.

  • @TheByblikbyblik I got some bad news for you....

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  • @Abroadhawk You're young and stupid.

  • @TheByblikbyblik Yeah the best. Best in genocide.

  • @Mogzyx takes on to know one.