yes he can.and he did according to bible.one other religion claims god veiled himself 7 times , started with adam ended with mohammed.god veiled himself in peter simon in jesus time.he came earth to create religions ....
@MeatCloud What is it in this tube that you don’t understand???? The man speaks pure logic while your argument is baseless. Don’t reply to me or else i will shit in you ……for real.
@1995Scotsman We don't believe that God can do all things. God is just and does not commit acts of injustice. This is the atheist argument can God create a rock even God cannot move it. It is illogical fallacy. It has no basis. God can do things that is within His just/balanced rule anything beyond that will not make Him God.
I'M NOT CHRISTIAN BUT WHY CAN'T GOD BE DIVIDED IN THREE AND COME TO EARTH? BECAUSE THE QURAN SAYS SO? WHO CARES? THE QURAN SAYS MANY STUPID THINGS TOO. IT SAYS THAT "STARS ARE MISSILES TO SHOOT THE DEVIL", 67:5. IS THIS TRUE? NO. STARS ARE HUGE SUNS. I DON'T CARE ABOUT DOGMA AND AT LEAST JESUS'S MESSAGE HAS A UNVERSAL SCOPE BECAUSE HE PREACHED PEACE, LOVE. HE SAVED A WOMAN FROM BEING STONESD AND WAS NEVER ENVOLVED IN WARS. READ THE HADITHS AND YOU'LL SEE HOW MUHAMEMD KILLED, LOOTED, RAPED
Sir, if Muhammad (a mere man who claimed to be a prophet ) can fly on a horse from Medina to Jerusalem then God (who is infinite) can can become God.
You, agree that God is not limited and yet you conclude that God is unable to become man. You clearly fail to understand the concept of the Trinity. God can be fully God and fully man because unlike you and me God can be more than one thing at once. Christ claimed to be God yet he prayed to God.
@behaack In the bible it says God does not go against his nature, he does not do ungodly things and being a man that eats drinks and goes to the toilet then dies is totally ungodly. With your logic I can say that If God is all powerful can he make a stone he cannot lift.
@TeenageIronman Yes, I agree God does not do ungodly things.God remains true to his nature. I do not pretend to know all of the things which are true of God's nature. It is, I believe, presumpsuous of you to claim that you do. Christians believe that God took on the form of man. That God took a body and roamed the earth is of course a radical and scandalous claim. Jesus' earliest believers like St. Paul were also aware of the absurdity of it all.
Alexander Fleming, a doctor and researcher at St. Mary's Hospital in London, England, published a paper on a chemical he called "penicillin", which he had isolated from from a "M O L D " , Penicillium notatum.
I still cannot see the cure from wings of a fly. Do you?
The first reference to aspirin was by a 5th century BC Greek physician who wrote of a bitter powder that came from the bark of the "W i l l o w t r e e ", and it eased pains and reduced fever.
I still cannot see the cure from wings of a fly. Do you?
"No Human on earth can draw a straight line on the surface of the earth between two far away cities"?!!!!
Explain to me that how did the Egyptians drew a straight line from the temples of Giza to align it with the stars in the milky way?
Egyptians were 5000 years before Islam and Muhammad.
Explain to me that How "Mayans" created OUR Calendar which we still use after 5000 years??? Which is based on the moon and the stars. And THEY lived 3500 years before Muhammad and Islam.
@PersianWiseMan1 ok also if u want go to google and search "fly wings cure and disease" ull find some articles there...
in a hadith related from abu horaira mohammad said "if a house fly drops into ur drink dip it before throwing it...one wing has a disease and the other has the cure"
read the articles..
once uve said that satan was teaching him it means that u were somehow surprised..
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@PersianWiseMan1 just watch the video...science can prove many things...
just watch the video i dont expect from u to be convinced but i would like u to tell me how mohammad could do that 1400 years ago and thats it...and bring all the intelectuals to explain if they can...
@PersianWiseMan1 ofcourse he has to go to a christian school with a christian doctrine to make maybe understand 50% of what u (dont) understand...christian logic is in paralel with international and natural logic...i think u have to go to school...u say u can refute what he says...well go ahead why dont u?
How can the Prophet Muhammad be Illiterate, where he could not even write His own name and recite, while Come up with the Quran At the same time?!!! But he has a hard time to understand that God can exist in Jesus' Body!!!!!!
@PersianWiseMan1 well that my friend is a great sense of christian logic...first of all i dont think u know sammi or what he knows or does not know about science to make u state that he cant understand the scientific explanations of the trinity or whatever u mentioned...
god being the creator of man doesnt need to enter a human body to know how it feels to be a man...
if im the creator of a dvd player i dont have to become a dvd player in order to know how it works because i already know...
@PersianWiseMan1 noone said that mohammad was possesed by a demon...he thaught so for a short period of time and thats not an year because from the first year he started preaching...
mohammad illitarate...mohammad never wrote the qor'an he just recited it...u dont have to know how to read in order to recite so the conclusion is that someone was teaching him the verses...
trinity...jesus never said anything about trinity and i think the only proof a christian can have for that is ...
"No one said that Mohammad was possessed by a demon"?!!!
Looks like you need to do some research.....lol
Muhammad had even thoughts of Suicide, While he was possessed.
Please don't tell me what i know , while you have no clue.
It is funny that How you Muslims draw your own Conclusion, Dis the Bible and deny Jesus Christ, while the Quran mentions that Muhammad is Only there to Confirm Christianity.
@PersianWiseMan1 never heard that mohammad wanted to commit suicide i dont know where u got that info from but he wasnt possesed by any demon...
the qor'an never came to confirm christianity it came to confirm the massege of the previous prophets so dont make mistakes in ur conclusions...the massege of THE PREVIOUS PROPHETS not the massege of paul, mathew, luke,mark, john, the church and emperor constantin....
"woe to those who wrote the book with their hands and claim to be from god...
i wish i could ask jesus what his religion is and if he ever heard of christianity...but im sure he never has...
paul wrote his book 40 years later, and ppl like the "apostles" kept editing it until king james and ppl of his perioud...so how can the word of god be edited? the direct word of god...
acording to christian logic paul had a vision of the holy spirit...couldnt the holy spirit speak fluently? paul was a killer...
@PersianWiseMan1 if u would understand what muslims think u would be at least ALMOST like muslims...but u arent....not even far, u dont know any islamic logic, universal logic or anythin...
question: if u know everything then why do u even speak to us mortals?
note: ur way of talking shows up ur stupid arrogance and i wonder what makes u even talk to us muslims if u understand us and know that we are wrong and if u know we're not going to change our minds?
@PersianWiseMan1 well my friend i studied in a school in palestine that teached all the disciplines of my lvl and i thik i know arabic well enough...we never called that "madrasah 'adiya"which would mean ordinary school but just "madrasah" which means simply school,which teaches any science diferent lvl at different grade...i dont know where u got ur info from...i think from the fake ex muslims exposed...
and just to inform u madrasah comes from darasa which means to teach...
@PersianWiseMan1 so madrasah is an institution in which some ppl teach others...as simple as it sounds..if its an arabic word it doesnt mean that its a secret society where u learn to be a terrorist...
@PersianWiseMan1 ...in different ways while the very clear verses quoting jesus are saying that the father is greater than him, the father is the judge...
jesus started to change the 10 comendments but never changed the 1st one while he had the ocasion to say "sons of israel u heard that the lord is one but i tell u now that there are 3 in 1" but he iddnt do that...conclusion - no trinity...conclusion - jesus=man=massenger of god
I will not try to refute this argument Scientifically, since his understanding of Scientific knowledge may be limited, and as the result je will not understand it anyways.
But if we tried it literally and in simple terms, I will try to make a conviction on his argument.
Prophet Muhammad, as he (Sami) is fully aware of his life was told that he was under a demonic spell for a period of 1 year. (so i don't think that he will refute that, since his other debates on Video will concur that).
Hence the Satanic Verses, sleeping with his wives while he could not remember them, etc........ etc.............etc....
So i would like to ask Him if it is possible for satin (demon) to Co-exist in Muhammad's Body at the same time or not?
Nobody says that we muslims do not sin. What an utter rubbish! Islam is perfect but muslims are not. Christianity contradics to itself while Islam makes sense.
Jesus came and spoke truth, healed the sick, even made the blind to see, fed 4,000, then 5,000 counting only the men but there were women too. He taught peace & respect and love, not fighting.
Mohammad came along raping and murdering and stealing. And you say he is a greater prophet than Jesus. That is like raping for virginity.
Jesus perfectly revealed the love of the Father. He fulfilled the Old Testament prophecies. He is the Truth. He said the Father and I are One. He rose from the dead.
You are wrong in this: Nothing is impossible for God. GOD stayed in heaven, Jesus came here to share God's throne. As confirmed in the Quran and New Testament, Jesus was from a woman and God and not of man's DNA. So you are correct, HE could not be man. Brother, I have seen Christ a few times, seen death and afterlife visions, received the Holy Spirit after three weeks of asking God for it in Jesus name. GOD is here to connect with us.
You use your limited logic to explain who God is. He is God, He can be what He want Him to be. That is why He told Moses that He is "I Am that I Am". Water can exist in 3 states: Water, Ice and Vapour. He can multiply Himself when He want to. No space and time can limit Him. BTW, I am not religous but I have real encounter with Him, so I know.
I agree with you. On one hand according to christians, god is made up of different parts. God's part named "the son" is limited as you describe. His other part "the father" is NOT limited. Refer to trinity. (Is god schizo??)
I say trinity is bullshit though. This is obviously an anthropomorphism. God is always dimmed down to human characteristics because people would not understand god any other way.
butt, 1 if he/she/it ìs perfect as the videoman says, he could just PLAY at say o.001 percent (human level) of might. 2 if what you say is true how did jesus LIVE, I suppose if he can die, he must have taken a piss or shit or whatever human you can think of that is not otherwisely specified in the bible. ps, if the only reaction is about orthography, I am just.
Your understanding/explanation is fundamentally flawed. I'm not sure if you read these comments, so I won't spend ages writing why, but if you want to know, respond and I will tell you.
Mohammed is Islams 'Jesus' or messiah. No? Tell that to the many that have been stoned to death or imprisoned for making light jokes about Mohammed (not even the prophet, but some guy named Mohommed) or naming a dog or a teddy bear Mohommed. Islam is hypocritical just like Christianity. Both religions are assholes simply because they are created by Man! God is the collective asshole that is Man! And man will always stain the face of this Earth.
got to ask this because the last little bit brought up a great point is "god" still a violent blood thirsty mass murdering genocidal physcopath? and even if he is it's ok because in a vision thor told me that the god of islam the jews and christians isnt real so relax
You are confusing God's attributes with His identity. If your consciousness was placed within a dog, you'd still be you, but limited by the dog-like tent you found yourself in. Though God is omnipotent, His name and identity is not omnipotence. God IS love, however, and when He emptied Himself to become a man -- to begin to exist AS a man -- He never ceased being love.
Yes, God made Himself weak so He could do what man could not do for himself.
Many religious teachers, prophets or even angels claimed to be the messenger of God but only lead us to hell!
Question: if you're God, what will you do to save us and why? Remember all the laws you (as God) have decreed, God cannot lie and so you cannot change the Law you decreed for us.
Only solution: Become a man, a savior, do miracles no man has done before, including trading all mankinds sin with your blood once and for all, for the sake of love according to your laws. Because Hell is real!
Can a Circle be a Square at the same time? Yes! Imagine a can having the same dimensions in diameter and height, lets say both 3 inches. When you stand back and view the can at upright position, its a square, but viewing it from the top it becomes a circle. Its all about perspective bro! Read the Bible thoroughly and youll discover the three perspectives of God.
You say that God and man are opposites. I agree with that to a certain extent. But scriptures say that God created man in His image. Ie to have communion with God. Man was a special creation. But man fell away from God in the garden. We became unrighteous and deserving death. Who can save us? God showed his love for us by becoming man and taking the penalty we deserve. God exists in three persons. He's still all powerful. Tho He became a man, His omnipresence allows Him to be both man and God.
can God do anything? my answer is NO God cannot do ANYTHING EVIL. If God can do ANYTHING, then He can lie, if God can lie, then He is not the TRUTH and He cannot be trusted to tell the truth all the time.He is not HOLY.On the other hand, Is God powerful enough TO MANIFEST HIMSELF INTO FLESH? Yes. I believe He is that powerful... the question then is, DID HE BECOME FLESH? I believe He did. You believe He is not able to and u believe He didn't...
@TariqMussani no problem Tariq... I love declaring that my God is absolute TRUTH..just as Jesus Christ said "Iam the way THE TRUTH and the life"..again,if a mere man says this..it's BLASHPEMY unless of coarse speaking the TRUTH,in which case if Jesus IS THE TRUTH, then He is GOD.
@TariqMussani where in scripture does it say every prophet of God was "the Truth"? and how can sinners including prophets EXCEPT JESUS, be "the Truth"? mohammed was hardly "the truth"? Only GOD is TRUTH... we are all fallen. Only Jesus,who was SINLESS,can be called THE TRUTH..no other prophets were called "the Truth"...
Did I EVER raise the issue of Jesus (PBUH) being called "The Truth" OR was I asking you whether or not you agree with The Islamic Belief that there are things which EVEN GOD can not do?
@TariqMussani God cannot lie. That means He is limited by His HOLY NATURE. God cannot break covenents becauese He is HOLY. God in the bible IS LIMITED. your god...appears not to be limited at all and yet you also claim becoming a man is impossible for him....a limit right? does your god not have the power to become flesh? mine does.
Can God be "stupid" in school? - This kind of questions are invalid, rubbish,nonsensical and it is insulting one mans intelligence to debate such things.
@BosKr considering this entire video is BASED ON THIS VERY SUBJECT...i hardly think it's STUPID to share my beliefs however offensive they might be to you.I still have a right, just as the guy has, to express my deep rooted beliefs.I believe an all powerful God has the ability to become flesh if He so wishes.I also believe an HOLY God cannot LIE. I believe the HOLY CHARACTER of GOD means God is limited in that HE WILL NOT DO ANYTHING EVIL.However,Allah apparently CAN DO ANYTHING..not the same.
your comment shows that you didnŽt even try to understand the previous post - your intention is only to defend your position , no matter if it is the truth or not.
Jesus said "I am the WAY,TRUTH &LIFE, no man comes to the Father but by Me. If Jesus is a mere man, then making this statement is EVIL &BLASPHEMOUS.How arrogant of a human being to claim that you either go thru Him &Him only to get to God &that there is no other way!! What arrogance & wickedness for a created being,man, to say such a thing...UNLESS He is God clothed in something finite..flesh... and then the claim changes and reveals the very nature of Jesus Christ.Only GOD can do such a thing.
Your limiting God by saying He cant become a man.... your limiting what God can and cannot do. Im sure if God wants manifest Himself to mankind as a man, though clothed in flesh...He CAN. He really is that powerful to me.
if God is all powerful, then becoming a man is easy.. and if Jesus Christ is not the Son of God, then WHO is Jesus's Father? How was He created? by what "seed" was He created? and why does He call "God" Father? Until you can tell me who the father of Jesus IS, He will always be the Son of the Living God to me...You must know who the father is first before making such a claim..Without the FATHER of Jesus..you have no legs to stand on.
I thought Christians believed Jesus was the SON of God, not God as a man. But, that is irrelevant nonetheless.
To answer your question, no. As a deist, the God I believe does nowt nowadays. Also, God is perfect, man is not perfect. God becomes man, he is no longer perfect, he is no longer God.
Is not limited, does not die, eternal (in other words no beginning no end), no eating, no sleeping...
Everyone has noticed that these so called definitions are about what this alleged deity IS NOT? Perhaps you need to figure out first what this deity really is about and not what it is not about. That would be really helpful! lo!
Finally, if this alleged "God" is not in "need", why bother at all?! There is simply no need! Yip, you are on record, Sami! :))
Sami you confused yourself as usual, the title of this video is called: "Can God become a Man?" at 4:43 you said "if god becomes a man then he is no longer god is he"....So the obvious answer (by your rationale) is YES god can BECOME a man he can do anything. and yes God would be the former and man the latter....But the video is NOT entitled "can God be God AND a man", it is entitled "Can God become a Man"..its a moot point anyway as God is a myth born out of ignorance and brainwashing anyway.
@SCORPIONSPEAR Good point, but if you admire that CEO who's human, won't your admiration of God for something similar be infinite? I.E. So much admiration that you feel he is worthy of worship.
With that said I agree with the trivial nature of this argument I guess that is exactly what I was trying to point out when I first posted. It certainly was a pleasure having this exchange with you, good to hear from smart logical people on you tube. Best of luck on your English work ^_^
@SCORPION This is kinda like the would question. we label things insulting because of vanity. If I told you about a CEO that not only lead his company to billions and unheard of success, but also helped his janitor employees at night clean the toilets, a job we deem insulting but once you hear about that CEO you more likely than not say "Wow what a great guy". Does God need to do these "insulting" things mentioned? No, but will he to show us that he loves us? Not sure, but it'd be nice:)
@SCORPIONSPEAR Thank you, that's exactly my point. When Sami said in the video "you need to define who God is" and that simply is not possible as you've said. Attempting to disprove Christianity using this argument is a futile logical loop. You probably have other venues to try and disprove that religion that are way better than this one.
@SCORPIONSPEAR: You said that God "Wouldn't" become human the question is who are you or I or Sami or anyone for that matter to say what would god do and don't. Obama wouldn't live in the slums because of human vanity. So to say that God would or would not do something is simply making god play by our rules and our vanity (I.E. limiting an unlimited God).
As for your question about Christians I'm not Christian so I cannot answer your question on that matter.
You say God is limitless, but then you say that god "cannot" become human, therefore God is limited according to you (i.e. God's limit is not being able to be human). If that was the case then God is in fact limited, so can I'd like (amongst your other viewers) get an explanation about this.
The "true" feelings I was referring to is of Christianity, ie, that it is "useless" If I said the same of Islam, what would that accomplish? Actually what would that mean? Thus, I take your statement as negative but meaning not much more than that.
Back to the point about the boys. Mustafa Abu Maryam, youth coordinator at the I.C.N.A. Center called them "children" and they were going to "fight" from your perspective. Doesn't seem to promote family values and that was my point. Christianity promotes family values.
Christ's values are family values. Even the cults of Christianity have family values.
What about Muhammad...the Qur'an... makes 5 muslim boys from Washington DC go to Pakistan to join al qaeda? What causes this? I believe some of you know. 13 missing boys from Minnesota too.
Family values and war are incompatible. Family values and terrorism are incompatible. Jesus is for the family and for peace. What is Islam for?
yes he can.and he did according to bible.one other religion claims god veiled himself 7 times , started with adam ended with mohammed.god veiled himself in peter simon in jesus time.he came earth to create religions ....
WhiteMoonLights 2 weeks ago
You bore me
jefeisdguard 1 month ago
How do you know anything about god?
Since god can do anything,
if god cannot become a man then he is LIMITED!
sirjambo 1 month ago
Here are 2 things God cannot do:
1) Become a man
2) Exist
R4t10n4L 2 months ago
So basically, you're taking shots at Jesus. *sigh* And you dont believe in Jesus's divinity? And if not, then explain Jesus on your own terms.
JRocka114 2 months ago
@JRocka114 The most insightful explanation of Jesus that I've ever read was a book called the Scandal of Christendom by RJ Lawrence
R4t10n4L 2 months ago
/watch?v=fw_CP_TrzEk
madeincombado 2 months ago
very true........
madeincombado 2 months ago
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@MeatCloud What is it in this tube that you don’t understand???? The man speaks pure logic while your argument is baseless. Don’t reply to me or else i will shit in you ……for real.
Munzer1977 2 months ago
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Munzer1977 2 months ago
Jazakalah Sami, very well said.
Munzer1977 2 months ago
"God can do all things"
"God cannot become a man"
MAKE - UP - YOUR - MIND
1995Scotsman 2 months ago
@1995Scotsman We don't believe that God can do all things. God is just and does not commit acts of injustice. This is the atheist argument can God create a rock even God cannot move it. It is illogical fallacy. It has no basis. God can do things that is within His just/balanced rule anything beyond that will not make Him God.
going2sleep 2 months ago
@going2sleep
Who exactly are you refering to as "we"?
1995Scotsman 2 months ago
@1995Scotsman We, Muslims.
going2sleep 2 months ago
@going2sleep
I see.
So you believe God can create the entire universe and maintain it, yet cannot move a rock?
If that's what you believe, then good luck.
1995Scotsman 2 months ago
@going2sleep God is just? Which planet are you from?
R4t10n4L 2 months ago
The moon is made of cheese..i have a book written a long time ago by desert dwelling primatives that tells me so, so it has to be true...
MegaPaul71 4 months ago
@MeatCloud
Just because you do not agree with someone does not mean that his advice is not beneficial
MrTaloul 7 months ago
@MrTaloul it is healthy to resist advice that comes directly from a state of complete error and/or ignorance.
MeatCloud 7 months ago
@MrTaloul it is healthy to resist advice that comes directly from a state of complete error and/or ignorance.
MeatCloud 7 months ago
@MeatCloud
There is no point in insulting cause you will never get anywhere.. The way to go is create a dialogue of understanding
MrTaloul 7 months ago
@MrTaloul don't have to 'get anywhere'. Reality is reality. There is no 'grey area'.
MeatCloud 7 months ago
LOL @ this video... AKA "A simpleton tries to get intellectual about imaginary friends".
MeatCloud 7 months ago 2
I'M NOT CHRISTIAN BUT WHY CAN'T GOD BE DIVIDED IN THREE AND COME TO EARTH? BECAUSE THE QURAN SAYS SO? WHO CARES? THE QURAN SAYS MANY STUPID THINGS TOO. IT SAYS THAT "STARS ARE MISSILES TO SHOOT THE DEVIL", 67:5. IS THIS TRUE? NO. STARS ARE HUGE SUNS. I DON'T CARE ABOUT DOGMA AND AT LEAST JESUS'S MESSAGE HAS A UNVERSAL SCOPE BECAUSE HE PREACHED PEACE, LOVE. HE SAVED A WOMAN FROM BEING STONESD AND WAS NEVER ENVOLVED IN WARS. READ THE HADITHS AND YOU'LL SEE HOW MUHAMEMD KILLED, LOOTED, RAPED
DictaduraNo123 8 months ago
"Is it logical?"
ROOOFL
Hyddrossil 10 months ago
Sir, if Muhammad (a mere man who claimed to be a prophet ) can fly on a horse from Medina to Jerusalem then God (who is infinite) can can become God.
You, agree that God is not limited and yet you conclude that God is unable to become man. You clearly fail to understand the concept of the Trinity. God can be fully God and fully man because unlike you and me God can be more than one thing at once. Christ claimed to be God yet he prayed to God.
behaack 1 year ago
@behaack In the bible it says God does not go against his nature, he does not do ungodly things and being a man that eats drinks and goes to the toilet then dies is totally ungodly. With your logic I can say that If God is all powerful can he make a stone he cannot lift.
TeenageIronman 1 year ago
@TeenageIronman Yes, I agree God does not do ungodly things.God remains true to his nature. I do not pretend to know all of the things which are true of God's nature. It is, I believe, presumpsuous of you to claim that you do. Christians believe that God took on the form of man. That God took a body and roamed the earth is of course a radical and scandalous claim. Jesus' earliest believers like St. Paul were also aware of the absurdity of it all.
behaack 1 year ago
@behaack Exactly
TeenageIronman 1 year ago
God is unchanging in his being (Psalm 102:27), Malachi 3:6 James 1:17
SO TRUE BROTHER SAMI!!
pamuk7 1 year ago
@mylesbradley1234 no i am i take my words back
R0kmyS0X 1 year ago
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R0kmyS0X 1 year ago
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"Penicillin".....
Alexander Fleming, a doctor and researcher at St. Mary's Hospital in London, England, published a paper on a chemical he called "penicillin", which he had isolated from from a "M O L D " , Penicillium notatum.
I still cannot see the cure from wings of a fly. Do you?
PersianWiseMan1 1 year ago
Aspirin
The first reference to aspirin was by a 5th century BC Greek physician who wrote of a bitter powder that came from the bark of the "W i l l o w t r e e ", and it eased pains and reduced fever.
I still cannot see the cure from wings of a fly. Do you?
PersianWiseMan1 1 year ago
Can't you see that Bayer is not a Diseases research company?
If they make Aspirin and pain relief, it does not mean that they specialize in Infectious disease.
They make those videos, cause they KNOW that you guys will not Doubt them and will not contact "Bayer" for that matter.
More reason to believe that Islam is fake.....
Otherwise, they would not be trying so hard to justify it.
PersianWiseMan1 1 year ago
"No Human on earth can draw a straight line on the surface of the earth between two far away cities"?!!!!
Explain to me that how did the Egyptians drew a straight line from the temples of Giza to align it with the stars in the milky way?
Egyptians were 5000 years before Islam and Muhammad.
Explain to me that How "Mayans" created OUR Calendar which we still use after 5000 years??? Which is based on the moon and the stars. And THEY lived 3500 years before Muhammad and Islam.
PersianWiseMan1 1 year ago
"Mohammad communicated with God"?!!
Did he bring a cure for cancer?
Millions of Children are dying in Africa, before they can make a religious decision.!!!
Did Allah or Muhammad Communicate about saving those children from Diseases or any other life threatening Illnesses?
NO??????
Muhammad Also communicated with Satan, Hos do we know that it Was Satan all along teaching him stuff.???
PersianWiseMan1 1 year ago
@PersianWiseMan1 did u watch the video?
khalilrabee 1 year ago
@khalilrabee
Yea, and i really could not bare to watch it, hence it was an insult to my intelligence.
:(
PersianWiseMan1 1 year ago
@PersianWiseMan1 ok also if u want go to google and search "fly wings cure and disease" ull find some articles there...
in a hadith related from abu horaira mohammad said "if a house fly drops into ur drink dip it before throwing it...one wing has a disease and the other has the cure"
read the articles..
once uve said that satan was teaching him it means that u were somehow surprised..
now who is satan? he is a creation of god
khalilrabee 1 year ago
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@khalilrabee
"fly wings cure and disease" ..............
Some one wrote to Bayer and asked them about this so called study, and here is their response;
Dear Mr./Ms.**********
Thank you for your note.
Since we don't do any research in the area of flies we can not confirm your
hypothesis. Neither do we work in the HIV field and therefore, we don't have any
drugs available to cure A.I.D.S.
Stop reading those Islamic BULLSHIT, as they do nothing but to brainwash you.
PersianWiseMan1 1 year ago
@khalilrabee
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PersianWiseMan1 1 year ago
@PersianWiseMan1 therefor satan can not teach because hes duty isnt to teach...
if it was satan why would he tell mohammad to be aware of satan and to stay away from him because he is an open enemy (read qor'an)...
there are many proofs my friend and they would help u if u would leave ur prejudgement and think with a neutral mind...
now i have to go to sleep talk to u later...good night
khalilrabee 1 year ago
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@khalilrabee
"Therefor Satan can not teach because hes duty isn't to teach"?!!!
Since when Muslims know what is the duty of Satan?!!!
Has anyone interviewed Satan about his duty and what he teaches?!!!!
Did Muhammad see Satan so next time he sees him that he would recognize Him?
Please Stop making assumptions, as it makes you look Very Very Very Gullible.
PersianWiseMan1 1 year ago
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PersianWiseMan1 1 year ago
Definition of an "Intellectual" according to Merriam Webster Dictionary....
Intellectual:
developed or chiefly guided by the intellect rather than by emotion or experience : "rational"
PersianWiseMan1 1 year ago
There are more slutty women in hell, than you can find a few Virgins ones in Paradise.
Slutty women know what they are doing, Virgins Don't.
:)D
PersianWiseMan1 1 year ago
@PersianWiseMan1 dude fuck off. your retarded.
blackstars56 1 year ago
@PersianWiseMan1 u have no idea what ur talking about and im sorry for u...
khalilrabee 1 year ago
@khalilrabee
All the intellectuals in the world have no idea what they are talking about, accept you "Sami" and Muhammad, right?!!!
:(D
PersianWiseMan1 1 year ago
@PersianWiseMan1 im not sammi but mohammad was very wise...
and who are the intelectuals?
khalilrabee 1 year ago
@khalilrabee
He was was indeed, But not an intellectual.
Muhammad was street smart. He didn't/couldn't even write nor read his own name.
:)D
PersianWiseMan1 1 year ago
@PersianWiseMan1 that doesnt matter...he knew more things than any intelectual today :)
u can be smart but that doesnt make u wise...
wisdom is much better...
and mohammad comunicated with god...so he had acces to very great wisdom...greater than anyone could ever desire...
watch this video "google earth proves mohammad is right"...
i dont mind if u tell me that mohammad is false prophet...but just watch the video and tell me how could he do that...
khalilrabee 1 year ago
@khalilrabee
Oh, please, Google earth PROVED that Muhammad is right?
Is Google earth a human to prove Us anything?!!!!
PersianWiseMan1 1 year ago
@PersianWiseMan1 just watch the video...science can prove many things...
just watch the video i dont expect from u to be convinced but i would like u to tell me how mohammad could do that 1400 years ago and thats it...and bring all the intelectuals to explain if they can...
plz watch the video its very interesting
khalilrabee 1 year ago
@khalilrabee
How can Muhammad do what Exactly, The Video on the contrary is real boring....!!!
PersianWiseMan1 1 year ago
@PersianWiseMan1 yes the 1st part is boring so i thought too but just read what the man says and pay attention because the text is important....
ull be surprised
khalilrabee 1 year ago
EVERY ONE and EVERYTHING is beautiful in the eyes of the creator, hence the creator created them.( there is no ugliness there.)
But a man might not like Sami's mustache and find it extremely ugly.
So there While he could be very handsome and good looking in the eyes of the creator, He is extremely ugly in my point of View.
:)D
PersianWiseMan1 1 year ago
Sami,?!!!!
Oh boy, as i said before, you are really uneducated.....
I can refute EVERY WORD you said in this video, but it will take years for you to swallow everything i say to you.
Such pitty.......
Please go to School. please please please.....
PersianWiseMan1 1 year ago
@PersianWiseMan1 ofcourse he has to go to a christian school with a christian doctrine to make maybe understand 50% of what u (dont) understand...christian logic is in paralel with international and natural logic...i think u have to go to school...u say u can refute what he says...well go ahead why dont u?
khalilrabee 1 year ago
@khalilrabee
Continued:.....
How can the Prophet Muhammad be Illiterate, where he could not even write His own name and recite, while Come up with the Quran At the same time?!!! But he has a hard time to understand that God can exist in Jesus' Body!!!!!!
The same argument can be applied to TRINITY.
Do you see the Dilemma SAMI?
I would love to hear a response from Him.
:)D
PersianWiseMan1 1 year ago
@PersianWiseMan1 well that my friend is a great sense of christian logic...first of all i dont think u know sammi or what he knows or does not know about science to make u state that he cant understand the scientific explanations of the trinity or whatever u mentioned...
god being the creator of man doesnt need to enter a human body to know how it feels to be a man...
if im the creator of a dvd player i dont have to become a dvd player in order to know how it works because i already know...
khalilrabee 1 year ago
@khalilrabee
DVD player?!!! lol
Save those arguments for Dr. Zakir Naik. since it is of his refute and you just Mimicking his words, like a parrot.
:)D
Besides, i never said that God has a need to feel what humans feel.
But God CAN do that cause he wants his creations to know what he is like. There is a difference.
LOL
PersianWiseMan1 1 year ago
@PersianWiseMan1 i never said that the dvd comparison is from me, i used zakir naik's example cause i didnt have a better one...
believing in a trinity is a way to deny gods onness my friend...if god need a trinity it means hes not god
khalilrabee 1 year ago
@PersianWiseMan1 noone said that mohammad was possesed by a demon...he thaught so for a short period of time and thats not an year because from the first year he started preaching...
mohammad illitarate...mohammad never wrote the qor'an he just recited it...u dont have to know how to read in order to recite so the conclusion is that someone was teaching him the verses...
trinity...jesus never said anything about trinity and i think the only proof a christian can have for that is ...
khalilrabee 1 year ago
@khalilrabee
"No one said that Mohammad was possessed by a demon"?!!!
Looks like you need to do some research.....lol
Muhammad had even thoughts of Suicide, While he was possessed.
Please don't tell me what i know , while you have no clue.
It is funny that How you Muslims draw your own Conclusion, Dis the Bible and deny Jesus Christ, while the Quran mentions that Muhammad is Only there to Confirm Christianity.
Have you forgotten the Verse?
PersianWiseMan1 1 year ago
@PersianWiseMan1 never heard that mohammad wanted to commit suicide i dont know where u got that info from but he wasnt possesed by any demon...
the qor'an never came to confirm christianity it came to confirm the massege of the previous prophets so dont make mistakes in ur conclusions...the massege of THE PREVIOUS PROPHETS not the massege of paul, mathew, luke,mark, john, the church and emperor constantin....
"woe to those who wrote the book with their hands and claim to be from god...
khalilrabee 1 year ago
@khalilrabee
Again making your own Conclusions, ha ha haaaa
"the conclusion is that someone was teaching him the verses..."!!!
Who was teaching him the Verses and how?
Also, i never used any Christian Doctrines, Only used Your own Islamic Logic.
Also , When you open your mouth, People know what your level of Understanding and Knowledge is.
And thats how i know that Sami and You as well are Uneducated.(School Wise).
And no Madrassah does not count as Schooling. :)D
PersianWiseMan1 1 year ago
@PersianWiseMan1 ...to buy a small fortune"...
i wish i could ask jesus what his religion is and if he ever heard of christianity...but im sure he never has...
paul wrote his book 40 years later, and ppl like the "apostles" kept editing it until king james and ppl of his perioud...so how can the word of god be edited? the direct word of god...
acording to christian logic paul had a vision of the holy spirit...couldnt the holy spirit speak fluently? paul was a killer...
khalilrabee 1 year ago
@PersianWiseMan1 Who was teaching him the Verses and how?
well the simple fact that some surahs start with "say:..." means that someone was speaking to mohammad and ordering him...
madrassah? mdarasah means school my super intelligent friend...
now about ur "islamic logic" which is also jewish logic, and all logic except for christian logic...christians have a logic of their own...
if i would understand what a skitzofrenic sees then i would be almost like him...
khalilrabee 1 year ago
@PersianWiseMan1 if u would understand what muslims think u would be at least ALMOST like muslims...but u arent....not even far, u dont know any islamic logic, universal logic or anythin...
question: if u know everything then why do u even speak to us mortals?
note: ur way of talking shows up ur stupid arrogance and i wonder what makes u even talk to us muslims if u understand us and know that we are wrong and if u know we're not going to change our minds?
is it ignorance? i bet it is
khalilrabee 1 year ago
@khalilrabee
Well i guess we have nothing to talk about.
Allah O Asghar.
FYI "marrassah" means School, yes, but only teaches Islamic Mumble Jumble and is NOT a real School.
PersianWiseMan1 1 year ago
@PersianWiseMan1 well my friend i studied in a school in palestine that teached all the disciplines of my lvl and i thik i know arabic well enough...we never called that "madrasah 'adiya"which would mean ordinary school but just "madrasah" which means simply school,which teaches any science diferent lvl at different grade...i dont know where u got ur info from...i think from the fake ex muslims exposed...
and just to inform u madrasah comes from darasa which means to teach...
khalilrabee 1 year ago
@PersianWiseMan1 so madrasah is an institution in which some ppl teach others...as simple as it sounds..if its an arabic word it doesnt mean that its a secret society where u learn to be a terrorist...
khalilrabee 1 year ago
@khalilrabee
I guess that you have not been in Uk, and have not been around long enough to know that there are Islamic Schools in UK that only teach Islam.
Thats why i do not debate with just about anyone.
Cause YOU Guys have no Clue, and i have to provide and educate you people too.
So please, stop wasting my time.
PersianWiseMan1 1 year ago
@PersianWiseMan1 im not wasting ur time...ur wasting ur time...
ofcourse i cant know that since ive never been in uk and teaching islam isnt bad in my opinion...so why are u wasting ur time?
khalilrabee 1 year ago
@khalilrabee
Cause i thought that you are an intellectual, didn't take you for a jack ass.!!!
But now i realize what you are.
:)D
PersianWiseMan1 1 year ago
@PersianWiseMan1 ofcourse u realise...but u dont realise what u are my friend and im not going to say anything bad about u because im a muslim....
but ill say this...mohammad said: "no man that has a small trace of arrogance inside him will enter paradise"
khalilrabee 1 year ago
@khalilrabee
I have no desire to enter paradise. As i kniw that it is all a mumble jumble.
I want to go to hell.
:)D
PersianWiseMan1 1 year ago
@khalilrabee
I have no desire to enter paradise. As i know that it is all a mumble jumble.
I want to go to hell.
:)D
PersianWiseMan1 1 year ago
@PersianWiseMan1 ...the christian logic that cant be understood by anyone else...
trinity - its based on pagan beliefs before jesus implemented into christianity in 320 ad by emperor constantin and the council of nisiah
bible - earliest writer of what we know to be the bible wrote 40 years after jesus, latest writer 80 years after jesus
no gospel of any writer says anything about trinity
trinity - conclusion extracted by the church based on very ambigous verses that can be interpreted...
khalilrabee 1 year ago
@PersianWiseMan1 ...in different ways while the very clear verses quoting jesus are saying that the father is greater than him, the father is the judge...
jesus started to change the 10 comendments but never changed the 1st one while he had the ocasion to say "sons of israel u heard that the lord is one but i tell u now that there are 3 in 1" but he iddnt do that...conclusion - no trinity...conclusion - jesus=man=massenger of god
conclusion - bible=no holy book nor word of god
khalilrabee 1 year ago
@khalilrabee
Continued:....
1: Scientifically
2: Literally
I will not try to refute this argument Scientifically, since his understanding of Scientific knowledge may be limited, and as the result je will not understand it anyways.
But if we tried it literally and in simple terms, I will try to make a conviction on his argument.
PersianWiseMan1 1 year ago
@khalilrabee
What Sami fails to see is that His point of view is Literally Limited to what Islamic teachings teach him.
According to his preachings, Man is Limited and God is not Limited.
He is also confusing man's attributed with GOD.
PersianWiseMan1 1 year ago
U TALK SO MUCH SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
ledzi85 1 year ago
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SAOTUBE 1 year ago
thats very smart video, thanks bro. very good.
majidjoon2010 1 year ago
Yep, you said it... (2:56) "Without the Son, we wouldn't even be able to survive."
logismiko 1 year ago
so you say that man is limited and God is unlimited... yet you say God can't become man thus limiting him... logic fail
jihadexposed 1 year ago 2
@jihadexposed our logic is created by god and is also limited...how can u compair ur logic created by god with his knowledge and power?
khalilrabee 1 year ago
@khalilrabee
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Prophet Muhammad, as he (Sami) is fully aware of his life was told that he was under a demonic spell for a period of 1 year. (so i don't think that he will refute that, since his other debates on Video will concur that).
Hence the Satanic Verses, sleeping with his wives while he could not remember them, etc........ etc.............etc....
So i would like to ask Him if it is possible for satin (demon) to Co-exist in Muhammad's Body at the same time or not?
PersianWiseMan1 1 year ago
@khalilrabee
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LOL @ Sami.!!!!
Beauty and Ugliness are ALL in the Eyes of the beholder. Where He could be the Most hansom boy in his peers, i may see him as Ugly as hell.
Example: Lying to me is the most ugliest thing that a man or woman can exert on me.
So no matter how Good looking he/she might be, He would be looking his Ugliest features in my eyes.
There are at least 2 ways to refute his pattern of thinking.
PersianWiseMan1 1 year ago
what's wrong with your face?
plborman 1 year ago
@TruthfulChristian
Nobody says that we muslims do not sin. What an utter rubbish! Islam is perfect but muslims are not. Christianity contradics to itself while Islam makes sense.
JackSparrowDepp 1 year ago
Indian Vedas say " Aham Brahmasmi" ......means I am god......evrybody, everything is god.....get it?
foonty 1 year ago
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You talk about defining terms! your own words "God is not limited" THATS THE END OF IT! if you add "God can't..." it limits him!
My God is not limited...can he be man and God? yes, do I lean unto my own understanding it, no.
Perhaps YOUR god is limited to the confines of your logic and understanding, but that proves only one thing.....you do not know God.
doucit2 1 year ago
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You talk about defining terms! your own words "God is not limited" THATS THE END OF IT! if you add "God can't..." it limits him!
My God is not limited...can he be man and God? yes, do I lean unto my own understanding it, no.
Perhaps YOUR god is limited to the confines of your logic and understanding, but that proves only one thing.....you do not know God.
doucit2 1 year ago
You talk about defining terms! your own words "God is not limited" THATS THE END OF IT! if you add "God can't..." it limits him!
My God is not limited...can he be man and God? yes, do I lean unto my own understanding it, no.
Perhaps YOUR god is limited to the confines of your logic and understanding, but that proves only one thing.....you do not know God.
doucit2 1 year ago
You talk about defining terms! your own words "God is not limited" THATS THE END OF IT! if you add "God can't..." it limits him!
My God is not limited...can he be man and God? yes, do I lean unto my own understanding it, no.
Perhaps YOUR god is limited to the confines of your logic and understanding, but that proves only one thing.....you do not know God.
doucit2 1 year ago
You talk about defining terms! your own words "God is not limited" THATS THE END OF IT! if you add "God can't..." it limits him!
My God is not limited...can he be man and God? yes, do I lean unto my own understanding it, no.
Perhaps YOUR god is limited to the confines of your logic and understanding, but that proves only one thing.....you do not know God.
doucit2 1 year ago
Through your reasoning, you should understand the resurrection of Jesus. :)
krononomikon 1 year ago
Jesus came and spoke truth, healed the sick, even made the blind to see, fed 4,000, then 5,000 counting only the men but there were women too. He taught peace & respect and love, not fighting.
Mohammad came along raping and murdering and stealing. And you say he is a greater prophet than Jesus. That is like raping for virginity.
Jesus perfectly revealed the love of the Father. He fulfilled the Old Testament prophecies. He is the Truth. He said the Father and I are One. He rose from the dead.
courag1 1 year ago
You are wrong in this: Nothing is impossible for God. GOD stayed in heaven, Jesus came here to share God's throne. As confirmed in the Quran and New Testament, Jesus was from a woman and God and not of man's DNA. So you are correct, HE could not be man. Brother, I have seen Christ a few times, seen death and afterlife visions, received the Holy Spirit after three weeks of asking God for it in Jesus name. GOD is here to connect with us.
JesusgavemeHolySpiri 1 year ago
you are one hundered percent stupid
hotchiliedouble 1 year ago
You use your limited logic to explain who God is. He is God, He can be what He want Him to be. That is why He told Moses that He is "I Am that I Am". Water can exist in 3 states: Water, Ice and Vapour. He can multiply Himself when He want to. No space and time can limit Him. BTW, I am not religous but I have real encounter with Him, so I know.
TheGreenPastures 1 year ago
that we invented gods after gods and killed each other about those fantasy creatures, shows our limitations best.
Aanthanur 1 year ago
Funny to see someone talking about logic while he takes god as a given^^.
Is God logically?
Aanthanur 1 year ago
God appears at Abraham’s tent as a Man
God wrestles with Jacob as a Man
Moses and the Elders of Israel see God in Human form
God declares that Moses speaks to God in Human form,
God stands before Joshua as a Man
God in Daniel is called the Ancient of Days and is described in Human form.
Ezekiel describes the Glory of the LORD as a Man
spideyrocks45 1 year ago
If God can't become a man, then God would be limited. And since God has no limits, then I dont see why he cant become a man.
nintendoDSgamerdk 1 year ago
I agree with you. On one hand according to christians, god is made up of different parts. God's part named "the son" is limited as you describe. His other part "the father" is NOT limited. Refer to trinity. (Is god schizo??)
I say trinity is bullshit though. This is obviously an anthropomorphism. God is always dimmed down to human characteristics because people would not understand god any other way.
eproulx 1 year ago
I don't think God could become a man because it seems impossible for something that doesn't exist to turn into a man.
kyledavidbyron 1 year ago
butt, 1 if he/she/it ìs perfect as the videoman says, he could just PLAY at say o.001 percent (human level) of might. 2 if what you say is true how did jesus LIVE, I suppose if he can die, he must have taken a piss or shit or whatever human you can think of that is not otherwisely specified in the bible. ps, if the only reaction is about orthography, I am just.
Multatuly 1 year ago
Your understanding/explanation is fundamentally flawed. I'm not sure if you read these comments, so I won't spend ages writing why, but if you want to know, respond and I will tell you.
doucit2 1 year ago
Dont you think by saying that cant become a man you are putting a limit on him thereby by your definition changing the nature of God
Also what we think of as death is just a transformation from this life to another dimension of reality but we think of it as finality
Ltaxe1 1 year ago
Mohammed is Islams 'Jesus' or messiah. No? Tell that to the many that have been stoned to death or imprisoned for making light jokes about Mohammed (not even the prophet, but some guy named Mohommed) or naming a dog or a teddy bear Mohommed. Islam is hypocritical just like Christianity. Both religions are assholes simply because they are created by Man! God is the collective asshole that is Man! And man will always stain the face of this Earth.
LOLDISNEYLAND 1 year ago
if he can, he is no longer a God
if he can't he is not a God
therefore , God doens't exist
thank you very much
skabudaw1 1 year ago
got to ask this because the last little bit brought up a great point is "god" still a violent blood thirsty mass murdering genocidal physcopath? and even if he is it's ok because in a vision thor told me that the god of islam the jews and christians isnt real so relax
dusty8512 2 years ago
Can a man fly on a horse?
SteelPowder 2 years ago
"If God becomes a man, He's no longer God."
You are confusing God's attributes with His identity. If your consciousness was placed within a dog, you'd still be you, but limited by the dog-like tent you found yourself in. Though God is omnipotent, His name and identity is not omnipotence. God IS love, however, and when He emptied Himself to become a man -- to begin to exist AS a man -- He never ceased being love.
Yes, God made Himself weak so He could do what man could not do for himself.
mtcanz 2 years ago
Many religious teachers, prophets or even angels claimed to be the messenger of God but only lead us to hell!
Question: if you're God, what will you do to save us and why? Remember all the laws you (as God) have decreed, God cannot lie and so you cannot change the Law you decreed for us.
Only solution: Become a man, a savior, do miracles no man has done before, including trading all mankinds sin with your blood once and for all, for the sake of love according to your laws. Because Hell is real!
rguerzo 2 years ago
Can a Circle be a Square at the same time? Yes! Imagine a can having the same dimensions in diameter and height, lets say both 3 inches. When you stand back and view the can at upright position, its a square, but viewing it from the top it becomes a circle. Its all about perspective bro! Read the Bible thoroughly and youll discover the three perspectives of God.
rguerzo 2 years ago
Can YOU become smart? nah.
Letsmakeasamich 2 years ago
You say that God and man are opposites. I agree with that to a certain extent. But scriptures say that God created man in His image. Ie to have communion with God. Man was a special creation. But man fell away from God in the garden. We became unrighteous and deserving death. Who can save us? God showed his love for us by becoming man and taking the penalty we deserve. God exists in three persons. He's still all powerful. Tho He became a man, His omnipresence allows Him to be both man and God.
brendos444 2 years ago
the trinity my fellow man, the trinity, it makes even less sense but we get it!
Revelationtomorrow 2 years ago
Your brain is dual in origin, though it is the same one person.
Absit3iniuria7verbis 2 years ago
However the bible does state that god did use cheat codes with his avatar.
Walking on water.
Feeding the 5000
curing the sick
ressurection or respawning.
So god COULD do these things though I don't believe if he did it was really as great a sacraface as christians believe.
I'm an atheist myself. God however is powerful enough to TRICK the crowd, and do whatever it takes to get a flock of blind worshiping sheep.
stewie1974 2 years ago
Again just to take the same idea as before.
GOD= Perfect being, Ultimate perfect being. Ultimate perfect morality, Ultimate perfect Sense of fair play.
Yes He can create an Avatar and experience the world as a human. Like we can create Avatars and experience virtual worlds as virtual beings.
Except he gets the full sensory data too, including the pain. However God himself is elsewhere
Jesus was an avatar. No great sacrafice. But it probally hurt him. Like losing our wow char
stewie1974 2 years ago
@sulle07 if allah is just, how does allah deal with your sin?
0871368021 2 years ago
Dear 0871,
You are confused, at best.
My questions is: Can God do ANYTHING, OR are there things which even GOD can NOT do.
According to ISLAM, there ARE things which even GOD can NOT do.
IF you NOW state that there ARE things which even GOD can not do then you agree with Islam, at least on this point.
Peace!
TariqMussani 2 years ago
can God do anything? my answer is NO God cannot do ANYTHING EVIL. If God can do ANYTHING, then He can lie, if God can lie, then He is not the TRUTH and He cannot be trusted to tell the truth all the time.He is not HOLY.On the other hand, Is God powerful enough TO MANIFEST HIMSELF INTO FLESH? Yes. I believe He is that powerful... the question then is, DID HE BECOME FLESH? I believe He did. You believe He is not able to and u believe He didn't...
0871368021 2 years ago
@0871368021 Thanks for admitting THE TRUTH: That there are things which even God can not do.
Peace!
TariqMussani 2 years ago
@TariqMussani no problem Tariq... I love declaring that my God is absolute TRUTH..just as Jesus Christ said "Iam the way THE TRUTH and the life"..again,if a mere man says this..it's BLASHPEMY unless of coarse speaking the TRUTH,in which case if Jesus IS THE TRUTH, then He is GOD.
0871368021 2 years ago
0871,
As explained, countless times before, EVERY Prophet and Messenger of God WAS "The Truth" during their own Ministry.
HOWEVER, that's NOT what I was discussing.
I'm thanking you for admitting THE TRUTH: That there ARE things which even God Almighty HIMSELF can not do.
Peace!
TariqMussani 2 years ago
@TariqMussani where in scripture does it say every prophet of God was "the Truth"? and how can sinners including prophets EXCEPT JESUS, be "the Truth"? mohammed was hardly "the truth"? Only GOD is TRUTH... we are all fallen. Only Jesus,who was SINLESS,can be called THE TRUTH..no other prophets were called "the Truth"...
0871368021 2 years ago
0871,
Did I EVER raise the issue of Jesus (PBUH) being called "The Truth" OR was I asking you whether or not you agree with The Islamic Belief that there are things which EVEN GOD can not do?
Peace!
TariqMussani 2 years ago
Dear 0871,
Can God do ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING?
Yes or No?
TariqMussani 2 years ago
@TariqMussani God cannot lie. That means He is limited by His HOLY NATURE. God cannot break covenents becauese He is HOLY. God in the bible IS LIMITED. your god...appears not to be limited at all and yet you also claim becoming a man is impossible for him....a limit right? does your god not have the power to become flesh? mine does.
0871368021 2 years ago
Can God be "stupid" in school? - This kind of questions are invalid, rubbish,nonsensical and it is insulting one mans intelligence to debate such things.
BosKrajina 2 years ago
@BosKr considering this entire video is BASED ON THIS VERY SUBJECT...i hardly think it's STUPID to share my beliefs however offensive they might be to you.I still have a right, just as the guy has, to express my deep rooted beliefs.I believe an all powerful God has the ability to become flesh if He so wishes.I also believe an HOLY God cannot LIE. I believe the HOLY CHARACTER of GOD means God is limited in that HE WILL NOT DO ANYTHING EVIL.However,Allah apparently CAN DO ANYTHING..not the same.
0871368021 2 years ago
your comment shows that you didnŽt even try to understand the previous post - your intention is only to defend your position , no matter if it is the truth or not.
BosKrajina 2 years ago
@BosKrajina and you believe God can or cant do anything?
0871368021 2 years ago
@TariqMussani my God cannot do absolutely anything. HE CANNOT LIE.
0871368021 2 years ago
Jesus said "I am the WAY,TRUTH &LIFE, no man comes to the Father but by Me. If Jesus is a mere man, then making this statement is EVIL &BLASPHEMOUS.How arrogant of a human being to claim that you either go thru Him &Him only to get to God &that there is no other way!! What arrogance & wickedness for a created being,man, to say such a thing...UNLESS He is God clothed in something finite..flesh... and then the claim changes and reveals the very nature of Jesus Christ.Only GOD can do such a thing.
0871368021 2 years ago
God becomes limited when He becomes a man..and that's exactly what Jesus said...that He layed down all His power to become lower than the angels....
0871368021 2 years ago
Your limiting God by saying He cant become a man.... your limiting what God can and cannot do. Im sure if God wants manifest Himself to mankind as a man, though clothed in flesh...He CAN. He really is that powerful to me.
0871368021 2 years ago
God by His nature IS LIMITED. God CANNOT LIE.
0871368021 2 years ago
if God is all powerful, then becoming a man is easy.. and if Jesus Christ is not the Son of God, then WHO is Jesus's Father? How was He created? by what "seed" was He created? and why does He call "God" Father? Until you can tell me who the father of Jesus IS, He will always be the Son of the Living God to me...You must know who the father is first before making such a claim..Without the FATHER of Jesus..you have no legs to stand on.
0871368021 2 years ago
The only way you or anyone else would know... is if you ask God yourself in person
BreakBeatWilNevaDie 2 years ago
I thought Christians believed Jesus was the SON of God, not God as a man. But, that is irrelevant nonetheless.
To answer your question, no. As a deist, the God I believe does nowt nowadays. Also, God is perfect, man is not perfect. God becomes man, he is no longer perfect, he is no longer God.
TheVodkaHaze 2 years ago 8
Is not limited, does not die, eternal (in other words no beginning no end), no eating, no sleeping...
Everyone has noticed that these so called definitions are about what this alleged deity IS NOT? Perhaps you need to figure out first what this deity really is about and not what it is not about. That would be really helpful! lo!
Finally, if this alleged "God" is not in "need", why bother at all?! There is simply no need! Yip, you are on record, Sami! :))
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
Sami you confused yourself as usual, the title of this video is called: "Can God become a Man?" at 4:43 you said "if god becomes a man then he is no longer god is he"....So the obvious answer (by your rationale) is YES god can BECOME a man he can do anything. and yes God would be the former and man the latter....But the video is NOT entitled "can God be God AND a man", it is entitled "Can God become a Man"..its a moot point anyway as God is a myth born out of ignorance and brainwashing anyway.
lynus111 2 years ago
I can solve it for you, he doesnt exist. You're welcome :)
lynus111 2 years ago
Soooo, where is God?
4Xderrick 2 years ago
Thats a really good question giving all the theologians a pretty hard time ever since...
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
@SCORPIONSPEAR Good point, but if you admire that CEO who's human, won't your admiration of God for something similar be infinite? I.E. So much admiration that you feel he is worthy of worship.
With that said I agree with the trivial nature of this argument I guess that is exactly what I was trying to point out when I first posted. It certainly was a pleasure having this exchange with you, good to hear from smart logical people on you tube. Best of luck on your English work ^_^
zspliffter 2 years ago
@SCORPION This is kinda like the would question. we label things insulting because of vanity. If I told you about a CEO that not only lead his company to billions and unheard of success, but also helped his janitor employees at night clean the toilets, a job we deem insulting but once you hear about that CEO you more likely than not say "Wow what a great guy". Does God need to do these "insulting" things mentioned? No, but will he to show us that he loves us? Not sure, but it'd be nice:)
zspliffter 2 years ago
@SCORPIONSPEAR Thank you, that's exactly my point. When Sami said in the video "you need to define who God is" and that simply is not possible as you've said. Attempting to disprove Christianity using this argument is a futile logical loop. You probably have other venues to try and disprove that religion that are way better than this one.
zspliffter 2 years ago
@SCORPIONSPEAR: You said that God "Wouldn't" become human the question is who are you or I or Sami or anyone for that matter to say what would god do and don't. Obama wouldn't live in the slums because of human vanity. So to say that God would or would not do something is simply making god play by our rules and our vanity (I.E. limiting an unlimited God).
As for your question about Christians I'm not Christian so I cannot answer your question on that matter.
Peace ^_^
zspliffter 2 years ago
You say God is limitless, but then you say that god "cannot" become human, therefore God is limited according to you (i.e. God's limit is not being able to be human). If that was the case then God is in fact limited, so can I'd like (amongst your other viewers) get an explanation about this.
zspliffter 2 years ago
The "true" feelings I was referring to is of Christianity, ie, that it is "useless" If I said the same of Islam, what would that accomplish? Actually what would that mean? Thus, I take your statement as negative but meaning not much more than that.
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
Back to the point about the boys. Mustafa Abu Maryam, youth coordinator at the I.C.N.A. Center called them "children" and they were going to "fight" from your perspective. Doesn't seem to promote family values and that was my point. Christianity promotes family values.
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
Sorry Sami. I didn't ask about Christianity but you told me your true feelings.
Have a good day!
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
Thanks Sami, now we know your true feelings. But, true feelings are good to know.
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
@thesoldierofislam1
Please think! You don't have to reply.
Christ's values are family values. Even the cults of Christianity have family values.
What about Muhammad...the Qur'an... makes 5 muslim boys from Washington DC go to Pakistan to join al qaeda? What causes this? I believe some of you know. 13 missing boys from Minnesota too.
Family values and war are incompatible. Family values and terrorism are incompatible. Jesus is for the family and for peace. What is Islam for?
nighthawk7878 2 years ago