All you gay hippies spouting off with your bs need to be 100% in support of ALL consensual relationship (i.e. polygamy, imbredding), else you are factually a hypocrite.
@llouldeng First off, inbreeding is not a relationship. It is the biological result of incest. And while I don't speak for the gay community, I don't support incest, but as long as it isn't producing inbred children, they're really not hurting anyone. Similarly, I see nothing wrong with a cluster of willing adults sharing a mutual relationship as long as everyone is truly involved by choice. If no one is being hurt, I don't see how anyone's relationship is anyone else's business.
@cheshirecattict -- So you wouldn't have a problem with consensual sibling marriage or polygamy marriage. Glad to clear that up. Kinda gross, but not surprising since you support SSM. 'Least you're not a hypocrite like the rest of the LGBT community.
@llouldeng I'm not a proponent of either sibling marriage or polygamgy, but it really isn't my place to pass judgement on other people's lives or relationships when their actions aren't harming anyone. It's nobody's business but their own, and I read somewhere "Judge not, that ye be not judged." On a separate note, equating same sex marriage with incest is just as ignorant as likening it to beastiality.
That's just one thing that separates me and you. I strongly believe all people deserve the same rights, even bigoted pricks like you. And not that it should matter, but I'm not a lesbian.
The only hate I saw was the protesters at the LA temple. Why aren't you protesting against the most popular President in the history of the country??? President Obama stated marriage is between one man and one woman. Maybe you should go protest in front of some mosques and throw their Korans in the dirt, or in front of black churches!!! It was those groups that made sure it passed......how committed are you to your cause???
While prop H8 passed... it shall be defeated... human rights exist for all... Hopefully America will wake up one day and learn to love their bother and sister... thank you for making such and amazing video!~
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So what happened to "pulverizing" us at the polls, huh? If you want gay marriage, don't try to circumvent the will of the people. Put it up for a vote, and the people will decide... Oh wait they have decided... TWICE! Deal with it!
We may have not won in the election, but this is already going to the courts. Human rights are not dictated by a popular vote. And prop 8 was illegally implemented in the first place. Any measure that would change the spirit of the constitution must first get a 2/3 vote from the legislature before it is submitted to the people for a vote. And the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment states "no state shall ... deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws"
The rights of the minority should never be decided by the vote of the majority. This country was founded on the principle of equality. As stated in the Declaration of Independence "We hold these truths to be self-evident: That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness...",
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prop is'nt taking your rights to sleep with the same gender, GUESS WHAT-----AFTER PROP 8 PASSES YOU WILL STILL BE ABLE TO DO YOUR ROLL IN THE HAY WITH UR GF....prop 8 will protect you from indoctrinating kids and everyone else that your lust is equevilent to the real marriage,
but i guess that woun't calm you down cuz thats exactly what you guys whant....to indoctrinate the kids so that they cant tell a difference between your homosexual lust and the true marriage
So you think that a gay couple who has shared a life for 25 years and raised children together is only together because of lust? Everyone, regardless of gender or sexual orientation, should be free to marry the person he or she loves.
I LOVE YOU Guys who Voted No on 8, who voted Yes to me being able to marry my man. Thank you, thank you California for being cool enough to show some love to your gays. The Gays love you back! We didn't win the ballot, but it's not over yet. YES WE CAN. YES WE WILL!!!
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"So I propose we stay out of each others' personal lives..." If it were that simple, then we wouldn't have voted to pass Prop 8, 8 years after the people of California made clear their position on gay "marriage." The fact is that the homosexual community wants to indoctrinate children to think that this kind of lifestyle is normal. Prop 8 is not discrimination, gays have the same rights as straight people. It's called a domestic partnership, a much more accurate description of what's going on.
If the civil rights movement taught anyone anything it's that "separate but equal" is never equal. All we want is to be treated just as anyone else. And teaching children to respect other people's way of life is something everyone should be doing.
This is a spoken word piece. It IS poetry. And the title makes it blatantly clear what side of the issue I am on. It's not my fault if you're too thick to understand that.
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ya know if you would stop talking like some poet on crack ppl would understand half the things you say... seriously i had no idea what side you were on until the middle of the video...
im not here to judge, im not here to make what i believe in right, and say how you feel is wrong...but im voting yes on 8 beucase i believe that marriage is sacred and it is meant to complete the union of a man and woman.
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Between Homosexuallity and abortion, it's no wonder God has taken His hand of protection off of this once great land! God is either going to have to apologize to Sodom and Gamora, or pour His Holy Judgement so rightfully diserved. I'msorry your eyes have been blinded by the truth. Gods laws and truthes are ABSOLUTE!
The Court of Queen's Bench in Saskatchewan upheld a 2001 ruling by the province's human rights tribunal that fined a man for submitting a newspaper ad that included citations of four Bible verses that address homosexuality. Those verse of the BIBLE are now deemed HATE SPEECH! Canada's a lovely place to live...LOL you can keep it!
No on prop 8 No on prop 8 No on prop 8 No on prop 8 No on prop 8 No on prop 8 No on prop 8 No on prop 8 No on prop 8 No on prop 8 It's descrimination.
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marriage is defined as joining together of a man and a woman. Homosexuals, gays, lebians, heterosexuals also have the same right too, by marrying someone of their opposite sex. Thus no right have been taken away from anyone, as long as you play by rule of the game.
Not only is your argument poorly constructed, it's completely untrue. YOU may define marriage that way, but not everyone agrees with you. By only allowing heterosexual marriage, you take away the rights of same sex couples to marry the person they are in love with. Just because you don't explicitly say you are removing someone's rights doesn't mean you aren't doing it.
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If you recall, we voted on this already. 61% of Californians voted to define marriage as between a man and a woman. So really I could be saying: Vote No on 8! Why? We went through this already!
If that's not enough for you, then ponder this.
Equality for All is the No on prop 8's official slogan. So are you saying that I could wed a goat? Or how about my cat? Its OK, we really love each other!
How about Polygamy? Why not! Seeing as how its "Equality for All" .
The 2000 vote you are referring to was not won by 61% of the population of California, it was 61% of the people who voted in the primary election. Primaries are notorious for low voter turnout. The state population was around 35 million people at the time, so the 4 mil. who supported it were only about 10% of the state's population.
Additionally, your cat doesn't have the mental capacity to propose to you - that's a completely invalid argument.
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Its not my fault that the so called "supporters" of gay marriage are to lazy to vote. That just shows who is more committed for there cause.
The cat thing was an example, I thought a "smart" kid like you would catch that. How about polygamy? Prop 8 its trying to protect the sacredness of marriage. If it does not pass, just about anything will be able to wed. Whether it be a man to a man, or two men to a single woman .
It's not a matter of not being committed to the cause, the propositions on primary ballots aren't advertised nearly as much as in a presiderntial election. I was 15 when 22 passed and I didn't hear anything about it until a year or 2 ago.
I know the animal thing was an example. My point is that it's irrelevant to the matter at hand. Polygamy and interspecies marriage is not legal NOW, even after 4 months of legal gay marriage. Your union is not jeopardized by the happiness of other couples.
You are actually jumping from gay marriage to marrying a goat.?. It is ignorance like that that make your argument laughable. You are the same people that said that the marriage of a black and white person would be the end of humanity! Good God! Oh, the reason the CA Supreme Court overturned Prop. 22. It is CONSTITUTIONAL issue, not a religious one! Vote NO ON 8!
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Vote Yes on 8! Why? Gay couples have the rights they are fighting for already in the state of California known as the Domestic Partnership Bill signed by Governor Grey Davis in 1999. The bill was effective of 01/01/2005. So why fight, you have the right already....
This is a fight about equality, justice, and human dignity. Just because you don't agree with gay marriage doesn't mean that it should be made illegal. Amendments to the constitution are supposed to give citizens additional rights, not take them away.
And if you don't vote for Obama simply because he is black, then yes, that makes you a racist as well.
I'm not denying your right to free speech, nor that to vote for prop 8, but don't fool yourself into thinking you're not discriminating against people by doing so.
Teachers aren't forced to teach anything more specific about marriage other than healthy, supportive relationships. Regardless, homosexuality and gay marriage are realities. So, I don't think it's a negative thing to have teachers impartially educate kids about something that exists. Learning about gay people can't possibly "make someone gay", just like learning about straight people can't "make someone straight".
According to merriam-webster's online dictionary, a bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices ; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance. Denying a group of people of a fundamental right because you disagree with their lifestyle is bigotry, and that is exactly what Proposition 8 is aiming to do.
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Yes I know about the meaning of "bigot." I also know the meaning of the words "hate" and "tolerance." I, personally, am not a smoker and would vote for smoking bans but I don't "hate" the people who smoke and I don't use "hate speech" when referring to them. Tolerance is a two way street. It requires people to disagree agreeably.
public smoking and gay marriage are in no way comparable. A person who smokes around you is infringing on your right to breathe clean air. A committed gay couple who chooses to get married does not personally affect you in any way. Taking away their rights is not agreeable disagreement, nor tolerance; It is imposing your morality onto them. regardless of your opinion on marriage, it is wrong to amend the constitution to take away the rights of citizens.
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Oh but it does affect us. I personally don't want my children to be learning about such things in school. The schools already force to much junk into our children's minds. You cannot tell me that it will not happen. The California Teachers Association donated 1 million dollars to No on prop 8. And I am sure a smart person like you could have done her research and read the story of the family in Massachusetts. Same-sex marriage is already being taught there. "Whether you like it or not".
YOU ARE BRILLIANT!!! I want to write this down and pass it around for everyone to hear. This needs to be published. Great job, you are truly talented.
Why thank you ^_^ Seeing as its relevance is rather time-sensitive, I doubt anyone would publish it, but I can send you a copy of the text if you'd like.
All you gay hippies spouting off with your bs need to be 100% in support of ALL consensual relationship (i.e. polygamy, imbredding), else you are factually a hypocrite.
llouldeng 5 months ago
@llouldeng First off, inbreeding is not a relationship. It is the biological result of incest. And while I don't speak for the gay community, I don't support incest, but as long as it isn't producing inbred children, they're really not hurting anyone. Similarly, I see nothing wrong with a cluster of willing adults sharing a mutual relationship as long as everyone is truly involved by choice. If no one is being hurt, I don't see how anyone's relationship is anyone else's business.
cheshirecattict 5 months ago
@cheshirecattict -- So you wouldn't have a problem with consensual sibling marriage or polygamy marriage. Glad to clear that up. Kinda gross, but not surprising since you support SSM. 'Least you're not a hypocrite like the rest of the LGBT community.
llouldeng 5 months ago
@llouldeng I'm not a proponent of either sibling marriage or polygamgy, but it really isn't my place to pass judgement on other people's lives or relationships when their actions aren't harming anyone. It's nobody's business but their own, and I read somewhere "Judge not, that ye be not judged." On a separate note, equating same sex marriage with incest is just as ignorant as likening it to beastiality.
cheshirecattict 5 months ago
was i supposed to laugh
supathizzfreak 8 months ago
You are so right!
Ilovesinging131313 2 years ago
sexual sin sucks
solidrecording2012 2 years ago
I strongly support liberty, but not for dykes like you!!!!!!
Justgetout 2 years ago
Oh and I'm so glad that prop 8 passed!!!
Justgetout 2 years ago
And you better enjoy it while you can, because it's just going to be overturned by the supreme court, AGAIN.
cheshirecattict 2 years ago
That's just one thing that separates me and you. I strongly believe all people deserve the same rights, even bigoted pricks like you. And not that it should matter, but I'm not a lesbian.
cheshirecattict 2 years ago
then you don't support liberty.
You people are just so ignorant.
nicoleca0427 2 years ago
then you don't support liberty
idaman12345 2 years ago
Vote to keep illegals & their anchor babies from getting welfare & food stamps & taxpayer services
Vote to stop anchor status
DarthCybie 2 years ago
The only hate I saw was the protesters at the LA temple. Why aren't you protesting against the most popular President in the history of the country??? President Obama stated marriage is between one man and one woman. Maybe you should go protest in front of some mosques and throw their Korans in the dirt, or in front of black churches!!! It was those groups that made sure it passed......how committed are you to your cause???
djwright44 2 years ago
While prop H8 passed... it shall be defeated... human rights exist for all... Hopefully America will wake up one day and learn to love their bother and sister... thank you for making such and amazing video!~
Scorpion3363 3 years ago 3
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So what happened to "pulverizing" us at the polls, huh? If you want gay marriage, don't try to circumvent the will of the people. Put it up for a vote, and the people will decide... Oh wait they have decided... TWICE! Deal with it!
nichemann 3 years ago
We may have not won in the election, but this is already going to the courts. Human rights are not dictated by a popular vote. And prop 8 was illegally implemented in the first place. Any measure that would change the spirit of the constitution must first get a 2/3 vote from the legislature before it is submitted to the people for a vote. And the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment states "no state shall ... deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws"
cheshirecattict 3 years ago
The rights of the minority should never be decided by the vote of the majority. This country was founded on the principle of equality. As stated in the Declaration of Independence "We hold these truths to be self-evident: That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness...",
cheshirecattict 3 years ago
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prop is'nt taking your rights to sleep with the same gender, GUESS WHAT-----AFTER PROP 8 PASSES YOU WILL STILL BE ABLE TO DO YOUR ROLL IN THE HAY WITH UR GF....prop 8 will protect you from indoctrinating kids and everyone else that your lust is equevilent to the real marriage,
but i guess that woun't calm you down cuz thats exactly what you guys whant....to indoctrinate the kids so that they cant tell a difference between your homosexual lust and the true marriage
slavka777 3 years ago
So you think that a gay couple who has shared a life for 25 years and raised children together is only together because of lust? Everyone, regardless of gender or sexual orientation, should be free to marry the person he or she loves.
cheshirecattict 3 years ago
I LOVE YOU Guys who Voted No on 8, who voted Yes to me being able to marry my man. Thank you, thank you California for being cool enough to show some love to your gays. The Gays love you back! We didn't win the ballot, but it's not over yet. YES WE CAN. YES WE WILL!!!
cclovesyoutoob 3 years ago 5
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"So I propose we stay out of each others' personal lives..." If it were that simple, then we wouldn't have voted to pass Prop 8, 8 years after the people of California made clear their position on gay "marriage." The fact is that the homosexual community wants to indoctrinate children to think that this kind of lifestyle is normal. Prop 8 is not discrimination, gays have the same rights as straight people. It's called a domestic partnership, a much more accurate description of what's going on.
hairyliberal 3 years ago
If the civil rights movement taught anyone anything it's that "separate but equal" is never equal. All we want is to be treated just as anyone else. And teaching children to respect other people's way of life is something everyone should be doing.
cheshirecattict 3 years ago
This is a spoken word piece. It IS poetry. And the title makes it blatantly clear what side of the issue I am on. It's not my fault if you're too thick to understand that.
cheshirecattict 3 years ago
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ya know if you would stop talking like some poet on crack ppl would understand half the things you say... seriously i had no idea what side you were on until the middle of the video...
lilbutter4bread 3 years ago
I love your prose. Thanks so much for posting this video :)
enigmatically 3 years ago 3
im not here to judge, im not here to make what i believe in right, and say how you feel is wrong...but im voting yes on 8 beucase i believe that marriage is sacred and it is meant to complete the union of a man and woman.
naturalsbabs 3 years ago
The sanctity of marriage got thrown out the window when the first Elvis Chapel got built in Vegas.
JetPixi 3 years ago 6
Good for you! And congratulations ( :
RoboFURY711 3 years ago
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Between Homosexuallity and abortion, it's no wonder God has taken His hand of protection off of this once great land! God is either going to have to apologize to Sodom and Gamora, or pour His Holy Judgement so rightfully diserved. I'msorry your eyes have been blinded by the truth. Gods laws and truthes are ABSOLUTE!
Wombat66614 3 years ago
Same sex marriage is legal in Canada. They haven't exploded.
JetPixi 3 years ago 6
Exploded, no boy you got me on that one...
The Court of Queen's Bench in Saskatchewan upheld a 2001 ruling by the province's human rights tribunal that fined a man for submitting a newspaper ad that included citations of four Bible verses that address homosexuality. Those verse of the BIBLE are now deemed HATE SPEECH! Canada's a lovely place to live...LOL you can keep it!
Wombat66614 3 years ago
Amen brother! Preach on!
RoboFURY711 3 years ago
MsJoeJonas123 3 years ago 7
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marriage is defined as joining together of a man and a woman. Homosexuals, gays, lebians, heterosexuals also have the same right too, by marrying someone of their opposite sex. Thus no right have been taken away from anyone, as long as you play by rule of the game.
mlaihome 3 years ago
Not only is your argument poorly constructed, it's completely untrue. YOU may define marriage that way, but not everyone agrees with you. By only allowing heterosexual marriage, you take away the rights of same sex couples to marry the person they are in love with. Just because you don't explicitly say you are removing someone's rights doesn't mean you aren't doing it.
cheshirecattict 3 years ago
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If you recall, we voted on this already. 61% of Californians voted to define marriage as between a man and a woman. So really I could be saying: Vote No on 8! Why? We went through this already!
If that's not enough for you, then ponder this.
Equality for All is the No on prop 8's official slogan. So are you saying that I could wed a goat? Or how about my cat? Its OK, we really love each other!
How about Polygamy? Why not! Seeing as how its "Equality for All" .
ChaseAHxPODx 3 years ago
The 2000 vote you are referring to was not won by 61% of the population of California, it was 61% of the people who voted in the primary election. Primaries are notorious for low voter turnout. The state population was around 35 million people at the time, so the 4 mil. who supported it were only about 10% of the state's population.
Additionally, your cat doesn't have the mental capacity to propose to you - that's a completely invalid argument.
cheshirecattict 3 years ago
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Its not my fault that the so called "supporters" of gay marriage are to lazy to vote. That just shows who is more committed for there cause.
The cat thing was an example, I thought a "smart" kid like you would catch that. How about polygamy? Prop 8 its trying to protect the sacredness of marriage. If it does not pass, just about anything will be able to wed. Whether it be a man to a man, or two men to a single woman .
ChaseAHxPODx 3 years ago
It's not a matter of not being committed to the cause, the propositions on primary ballots aren't advertised nearly as much as in a presiderntial election. I was 15 when 22 passed and I didn't hear anything about it until a year or 2 ago.
I know the animal thing was an example. My point is that it's irrelevant to the matter at hand. Polygamy and interspecies marriage is not legal NOW, even after 4 months of legal gay marriage. Your union is not jeopardized by the happiness of other couples.
cheshirecattict 3 years ago
You are actually jumping from gay marriage to marrying a goat.?. It is ignorance like that that make your argument laughable. You are the same people that said that the marriage of a black and white person would be the end of humanity! Good God! Oh, the reason the CA Supreme Court overturned Prop. 22. It is CONSTITUTIONAL issue, not a religious one! Vote NO ON 8!
peaceispatriotic7 3 years ago 10
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Vote Yes on 8! Why? Gay couples have the rights they are fighting for already in the state of California known as the Domestic Partnership Bill signed by Governor Grey Davis in 1999. The bill was effective of 01/01/2005. So why fight, you have the right already....
magi244 3 years ago
This is a fight about equality, justice, and human dignity. Just because you don't agree with gay marriage doesn't mean that it should be made illegal. Amendments to the constitution are supposed to give citizens additional rights, not take them away.
cheshirecattict 3 years ago
And if you don't vote for Obama simply because he is black, then yes, that makes you a racist as well.
I'm not denying your right to free speech, nor that to vote for prop 8, but don't fool yourself into thinking you're not discriminating against people by doing so.
cheshirecattict 3 years ago
Teachers aren't forced to teach anything more specific about marriage other than healthy, supportive relationships. Regardless, homosexuality and gay marriage are realities. So, I don't think it's a negative thing to have teachers impartially educate kids about something that exists. Learning about gay people can't possibly "make someone gay", just like learning about straight people can't "make someone straight".
SweetLadyAquarius 3 years ago 11
According to merriam-webster's online dictionary, a bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices ; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance. Denying a group of people of a fundamental right because you disagree with their lifestyle is bigotry, and that is exactly what Proposition 8 is aiming to do.
cheshirecattict 3 years ago
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Yes I know about the meaning of "bigot." I also know the meaning of the words "hate" and "tolerance." I, personally, am not a smoker and would vote for smoking bans but I don't "hate" the people who smoke and I don't use "hate speech" when referring to them. Tolerance is a two way street. It requires people to disagree agreeably.
Joebob6 3 years ago
public smoking and gay marriage are in no way comparable. A person who smokes around you is infringing on your right to breathe clean air. A committed gay couple who chooses to get married does not personally affect you in any way. Taking away their rights is not agreeable disagreement, nor tolerance; It is imposing your morality onto them. regardless of your opinion on marriage, it is wrong to amend the constitution to take away the rights of citizens.
cheshirecattict 3 years ago
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Oh but it does affect us. I personally don't want my children to be learning about such things in school. The schools already force to much junk into our children's minds. You cannot tell me that it will not happen. The California Teachers Association donated 1 million dollars to No on prop 8. And I am sure a smart person like you could have done her research and read the story of the family in Massachusetts. Same-sex marriage is already being taught there. "Whether you like it or not".
ChaseAHxPODx 3 years ago
That was outstanding!!! vote NO on H8TE!!!
pem1974 3 years ago 9
Love this what a talented youg women
depfox 3 years ago 9
YOU ARE BRILLIANT!!! I want to write this down and pass it around for everyone to hear. This needs to be published. Great job, you are truly talented.
daydreamingbaby 3 years ago 9
Why thank you ^_^ Seeing as its relevance is rather time-sensitive, I doubt anyone would publish it, but I can send you a copy of the text if you'd like.
cheshirecattict 3 years ago
if you could that would be great! Thanks
daydreamingbaby 3 years ago
*applause*
SweetLadyAquarius 3 years ago 9