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  • By doing ground work you develop a relationship and trust with your youngster whilst allowing them to develop the right muscles to carry you. I don't care how long someone has been backing horses it doesn't make there technique right. I hate hobbling, i think it is cruel an unnecessary. Although I don't agree with all your techniques here you do have a good calming way with the horses I have to admit.

  • Stupid cricket... Otherwise nice vid

  • Ya See, PD Jones is a real cowboy, the rest of us are too chicken-shit to climb on an hope for the best, so ground work it is until we build up enough nerve. Way to go PD Jones, seeing that you are Just a KID... I wanna be like you when I grow up...

  • I started working for a rancher when I was 14 and saved enough money to buy my own yearling after a couple years and started him just about the way PD does his. He was a good gentle useful horse for many years and never went lame or unsound throughout his 25 plus years. He was such a good buddy I named one of my sons after him. I wish some people in this world would just listen and learn instead of being born so smart already. PD you were a good man.

  • PD, I just wanted you to know that I wish that I was younger and could come out and work for you and learn from You. You are a true horseman and part of a dieing breed. All of the fancy trainers with big names has nothing on you. You are such a kind and gentle trainer. You make the horse your partner and not try to control him and make him comform to what you want but work with who he is. Keep up the great work and I will keep watching

  • All of you that think that they know everything about horses I am going to tell you your full of it. this GENTLEMAN had been training horses long before you were probly born. The way he trains is the way cowboys have trained horses for years. Notice that he uses no whip or chases the horse in a round pen. There is no fear in the horses eyes. He is not riding the colt hard. He does let them grow up after all he only rides them for 2 days and then truns them back out to grow up,

  • I found this vid interesting. I don't think there is anything wrong with such a minimal amount of riding and then being turned out. I think alot of people may get some things wrong tho if they try to copy your method. I am just so over people putting condescending remarks on utube about things that are not related to the videos. This I write about the remarks of @granitehills2t . Parelli has nothing to do with this man and his video.

  • @tanya2horses Actually many studies show that is actually beneficial for developing bone structure. This horse is now earning his keep on a working ranch & roping on the weekends & no doubt will be doing so for many years. I have been selling my colts from the same place for 50 years, if they were going crippled I would have been out of business a long time ago.

  • Awesome. I hate ground work and it just goes to show that you can have nice horses and not Parelli the poor things to death. I start my colts on horseback and basicly don't do anything unless I am riding another 4-5 year old. I bend their head around and rope their feet and body until they are sacked out. That way I feel like I am accomplishing something on two instead of one. Thanks for the info.

  • @granitehills2t In my getting colts you will see I let them sack them selves out. I put 6-8 of them in a small round pen & let them drag still leads (stiff so it don't get wrapped around anything) for a week or so. They drag the leads over & around each other & they step on the leads about a thousand times so they are used to pressure on their head & just never learn to panic & haul back on the leads & I can walk through them several times a day & just catch & fool with them.

  • How much ground work do you do? On a obviously gentle colt like this, how long will it be before you go outside? Always wondering how other folks do things. Thanks

  • None really..I hobble break, halter break, leave them tied quite a bit & pony them some off an ATV as weanlings & turn um out. ring them up at around 24 months, saddle & tie their heads around a bit for a couple days & get on. I ride in the small round pen for a few minutes a couple days, then the big round pen 2-3 days & then just walk & trot around the place a few days & turn them out till they around 2 & bring them up & ride um around for a couple weeks & turn um back out.

  • Man I love these vids, and the colts!

  • @delainedelaine Thank you, I appreciate your comment. If you've read some of the comments from non horsemen about how mean I am I guess it means a lot to me. But I don't really get how I turn out such gentle colts if I'm as cruel as some seem to think!

  • I don't agree with starting a colt that young, but I also start colts in hackamores at 4. Just a different method to achieve the same goal. Just because someone has a different view on things doesn't mean they're wrong. Different people have different styles. Thanks for the vids.

  • LOL..Just different ways & if it works, what the hell. I like my ring snaffle & nose piece & on some I will ride some in a bosal later just to tune some but it is really rare. I just go to this & then the chain gag we make & sell & just leave them there as it just seems to be all they need. Note the time I spent on the colt & this was a few times & I turned him out. To me a 4yr old is to set in his ways & easier to start a fight with. The bottom line is use whatever works for you..

  • that's a nice moving colt. Were did you get him?

  • He came off the M J Ranch in Canada, I've bought a lot of nice colts from them. They are honest people with good horses.

  • i really enjoyed this video! thanks it will be very useful to me...

  • As long as you don't scare them or make them mad & quit while you are both happy It works great, To many people try to "teach" them something all the time instead of just riding them & helping them to figure out the easy things to get things done you will make a good horse. Horses are like people, they will take the easy way out every time. So just show them the easy way & life is good!

  • I love your Videos unlike Dennis Reis who has music in the background which i do not like!, I can hear you and understand what you are doing in your videos!! thanks P.D.!

  • Thank you...

  • wheres that damn cricket haha

  • LOL..The first time I watched it I was lookin all over the house for the damned thing!

  • LOL!

    so was my friend justin whow as sitting beside me watchin the video lol. Seems the cricket wanted to be the star of the vid lol.

  • I enjoyed the video. Very similar to the methods i use on young'uns. I now start all with spurs and ride with spurs for the reasons you mentioned. I have noticed several "dad" and "grandpa" references in several comments to videos. They do what they do for the reasons they do it but that don't make it the only way. Please open your viewpoint a bit before you go blind. Thanks again for the video and keep postin.

  • I never used spurs to start them out I got my head stuck in the ground one too many times. I didn't want to take chance on getting hung up.  not every horse starts out with a soft easy attitude I have had some very rough ones who would not stop pitching. Hancock and Cowboy were 2 very tough horses. I had to do a lot of ground work driving and lounging and many miles of ponying them ground driving and lounging with saddles on to get them to be good.

  • Howdy. What kind of bit is in his mouth?

  • Just a regular ring snaffle with a sweet iron mouth. & one of the nose pieces I make & sell of course!!

  • good lookin horse...not such a fan of the cricket!!!!

  • HA..When I first played it back I was lookin all over for the damned thing!! Your close by, check out my other videos..

  • Okay so you dont get my point at all. Watch how much pressure he applys with his feet to that horse. Not much at all he isnt nudging him with them spurs to get him going, he isnt even using the spurs. So why wear them?!? my dad would never let me do that cuz thats just accident pron. horse steps in a hole, you jab in with a spur cuz you lose balance better hang on. Or a pheasent flys up and horse spooks jab him with the spurs. If the horse dont need the spurs, why wear them?

  • I carry a pocket knife everyday & some days don't use it at all but sometimes I do need it & it's right there. It's the same with spurs, if I need them I have them right there. Maybe when you get more riding experience you will be able to control your feet a little better so you don't poke them unless you need to.

  • I never take my spurs off

  • @broncsaddle08 Spurs are for nothing but correction and acceleration in tight moves and spins. Do not use spurs to get a horse to go, and you will have a better horse. As far as the accident thing goes, accidental jabbing is caused by not paying attention and not being a balanced rider. The more I rode, the more I learned to not accidentally jab them no matter the circumstance. Note: Craig Cameron, John Lyons and Clinton Anderson all ride with spurs.

  • Oh yea... on a side note... I would love to someday own a beautiful AQHA palomino stallion. I love palominos! And buckskins as well. I'd like to own a buckskin as well!

  • I have a few things to say...

    pdj47 - I have watched a few of your videos and enjoy watching how kind and gentile you are with your colts. I can see how they trust you. I am learning and retraining my 15 year old QH/Paint gelding with natural horsemanship, so I do appreciate another horse person who uses a gentile hand.

    broncsaddle08 - You sound quite immature to me. A good horse is a horse that trusts you, and whom you trust as well. If the horse trusts you he most likely will not act up.

  • Thank you. I used to work with problem horses but now just like to start with weanings & do things that I have learned in the 50 years I've spent starting colts. It is pretty easy to make good horses but damn hard to fix bad habits. I love how I've spent my life & just like to pass on what I've learned to others.

  • hey broncsaddle08, you have no class!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Sadly it's young want to be idiots like him that give cowboys & western horsemen a bad name. Trust me, it's not like that in the real world. He wouldn't last 15 minutes on a ranch, kid's like him would be sent down the road the first time they shot off their big mouths.

  • Mr Jones: Have you got any new 2008/model colts and fillies for sale ? also what is left over from the colt's shown on the 2007 you tube site!!! 8125bnix

  • Sir,

    I don't have any '08 colts & have all of the '07 colts but the 2 in the hobbleing video. If you would like to PM me I'd be happy to tell you about anything you might be interested in & might be able to give you an idea if I have one that might work for what you want. Thank you for asking. pdj

  • Do you have any up to date pictures of the 07 models you have left? also some are close to the age to start a little saddle work? are they in any state of training?  8125bnix

  • They are all hobble & steak out broke ,load,clip,trim,tie quiet & pony down the road off an ATV,catch anywhere,etc. All but 2 have been saddled,bridled & been on 2-3 times before I turned them out for the winter. No recent good single pics but that's no big deal to do if you want any.

  • PDJ47:

     I appreciate your response and would love to see a few pictures and a little info as to color,size and amount of riding each colt has had and even your asking price for each one if you have a going asking price??

    how is the weather in nebraska?? 8125bnix

  • You need to mail me at the address I gave in the PM so I can send some pics. Also tell me kinda what you want to do with one so I can send some pics of those that might suit you.

  • haha good. Why are you getting offended about my PERSONAL comments. That is why its a PERSONAL opinion. I havnt said anything volguar or negitive torwards you Mr. Attitude so dont even start with me. By the way, have you made your million training horses yet or do you have a real job bum. I wouldnt ride anyone elses horse in that round correl either. Dont try so hard to be cowboy either, if the horse dont need the spurs ...dont wear them. 5 minutes a day, hope you dont charge anyone for that.

  • I could push a button & remove your stupid comments but I rather enjoy watching someone making a fool of themselves. You really should figure out how to use the spell check on your computer. It would make you look a little less illiterate.

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  • to broncsaddle08: Umn... spurs are not just a "cowboy" thing. Both english and western riders wear them. There are also many many different styles. Just because he is wearing spurs does not mean he is "trying to be a cowboy", nor does it mean he will use them on this particular horse. Maybe there is another horse, an older horse, that will require spurs.

  • I guess maybe you should go out on the east coast or somthing and play with your horses cuz it aint gona work around here. Ive got realitives, Missy Weber and her family down in nebraska that raise horses and I know they dont need no play horse on their ranch. Ranch broke gelding is by far the best horse on the market and if you wanna argue with me about that you need to find a new job buddy.

  • Do you realize that you are making a fool of yourself & this will be here forever? Glad to hear you gave up starting colts, there are plenty of idiot ruined horses as it is. Be sure to let me when you put up a video showing everyone what a hand you are, I'm sure it will be quite entertaining!

  • haha ohhh actually im not in the horse breaking business Ive got a real job, so unless I see you on RFDTV or somthing you aint makign to much of a living. I broke colts through my summers in highschool and after highschool for a bit. Senior year in highschool I attended NAU's Equine program. Riding colts and horses for me is work, the only time we ride is when we are working, best horse is a work horse go round up hundreds of head with ur play horse or stretch bulls and cows out and treat em.

  • Sorry not intresting in trying to be a youtube star, or sell anything. And normally the old horsemans I know, theres no way id even try to show or teach them there aint anything they dont know. Anyways ill be posting videos of starting some colts,putting rides on them an getting some work done with them instead of just playing around.

  • Be sure to let me know when you post one! With your attitude I doubt you'll last long in the training biz but if you do it a while I think you might learn that "playing around" will get you much further than"gettin some work done" on them.

  • Okay every horse is diffrent and every horse repsonds diffrently i could care less if they buck or not. What im saying is to show ppl how to approach that horse for the first time with the saddle, or getting on the horse for the first time. Like shorting up that inside rein, or just putting a toe in that stirrup. Theres more to starting colts than that I feel. Oh and by the way, the best ones always buck and throw a fit at first I think. Personal opinion

  • Why don't you just make a video & show us old guys how it's done?

  • Bronc, If you know your horses as you say you do? A horse started well with good ground work amoung other factors at play. You will know the chances of horse/colt bucking is 0%. I would rather have a horse accepting and willing partener. That's the True art of horsemanship. Besides People who start Colt's as a rule are not looking for the big pay check. They do this out of Love and respect for the horse. That you seem to not have for the horse. Very Sad I think. Best wish's to you still.

  • LOL..I might not know as much as the kid but I have been good enough at it to make it my livelihood for around 50 years. Still working on that first million dollars though!!

  • I always see all these colt starting videos. But its always the 3rd of 4th ride whichever. You never see a video from day one from the saddle. What would make a good video I think would be like 5 diffrent rides from the first time saddleing up to having that colt knowing all the fundamentals the 5th or 6th day. Anyway horse moves out nice... Im new to this you tube thing but I hope to see more videos from ya.

  • Actually done right the first 2-3 riding are very uneventful & even more boring than this! My whole goal in life is to just get along & try to make a good horse that NEVER responds by bucking or throwing any kind of fit.

  • Is that a Corriente saddle?

  • Yes it is, a nice inexpensive saddle

  • this is very good starting but i do not like how young this colt is. i do not agree with starting to ride untill they are atleast two. i bought my mare at 2 1/2 and she was lame becuse she was started to eraly like this and now has problem in her hock and stifle.

  • This whole ride was 4 minutes & 42 seconds at a walk. I've done it the same way on hundreds of colts without any kind of problems. I just consider it kind of a pre-school.

  • PD Jones, I am just getting into the training business officially, but have done it since I was young for myself. I completely agree with your methods. Slow, calm and depending on how well they do what they are asked usually a short length of time on the young ones. I like your methods and enjoy your videos. I have multiple videos of our ranch horses on here also; could you check out skimeranch page and give me any comments? Thank you and keep sharing your videos!

  • Tina, I just got around to checking out your videos, looks like you have some nice critters & do a great job with them. I think you'll do well with your training biz!

    pdj

  • Hey,that's funny you were lookin' all over the house for that cricket the first time you watched this video! LOL..but don't you know, crickets in the house are good luck? So, even if that dang cricket WAS really in your house, you couldn't just throw 'em out! That'd be bad mojo & ruin your good luck :-)

  • LOL, I'll try to remember that. I sure as hell don't need any more bad luck!!

  • you shouldnt be breaking them in so early! and especially not with spurs! i hate you. you abuse animals.. poor horses if i could id take you off this man

  • Watch again & count the times the spurs were used...

  • Miss, you obviously don't have a clue.

  • that horse looks really caddy you remind me of the guy who tought me how to ride in Utah his name is Shawn Beuler and won't ever forget it

  • lol i bet... well that colt is awesome :) at a year an a half... when the 2 year old my friend got on threw her off... bless him.:)

  • It's something ya can't learn watching a video..Ya need to ride a lot of horses & learn kinda how they think before ya start getting on colts.

  • the bird cheaping is annoying me.... arghghgh...

  • LOL...It was a cricket & the first time I watched it I was looking all over the house for the damn thing!!

  • What controls do you use to make a horse back up? I went riding one day and I needed to move but i couldnt turn so i wanted to back up but I didnt know How...

  • I wouldn't even try to tell you on here.You need to find a good horseman to show you a few things.I have a video on here on a snaffle bit nose piece I use that helps teach a colt to back but you need to find someone that can be right there with you & your horse to help ya some..

  • Very nice little horse. Nice gentle methods you are using. I am looking forward to when you put up basic rope horse training : )

  • Thank you..Maybe we can get to something like that this summer....

  • Where I come from we start riding horses at 3-4 years old (I mean the horses, lol, not the riders) and we look angry at people who start at even 2,5 years. And yes, such young horses get easily damaged, when you treat them as fully grown horses. But when I look at this vid I am amazed how easy this horse walks, I've seen 3 and 4 years old having more difficulty with their balance.

  • Notice the video is 4 minutes & 42 seconds long & all at a walk for a few days & then they are turned out for the winter.I've been doing it this way for 50yrs.If I was crippling them by doing this I would have been out of the horse biz & would have had to get a real job long ago.

  • I saw the other vids too, and I understand that they really don't work long or hard, and that's ok.

  • No,it don't hurt them a bit & makes things easier for them when you start to really break them...Hope you give the hobbling some thought...

  • thats wat im saying!

  • good going, do you train children too? Thank you for the kindness you show to the horses.

  • LOl...Im much better with horses than little kids...i can kinda get horses to do what i want but kids usually get me to do what they want me to do....

  • YOU IDIOT!

    That poor things only a yearling! It will be crippled by the time it's 5!

    Pfft..My little cousin is probably more considerate towards horses than you!

  • I'd agree.

  • YOUR ON A 1 1/2 yr old. How STUPID.

    Horses could do without your training in my perspective.

    Ruining them is what your doing..

    Goodness.

  • I can remember when i was 15 & knew everything...But just barely..

  • Im not 15 loser. I don't know everything. You know nothing about starting that colt. At a year and a half there should be anything but you on its back. My goodness.

  • This video is 4 minutes & 42 seconds long & as i said i ride them like that a few days & then turn them out.Unfortunately well meaning people like you are a great danger to horses because of your lack of knowledge.

  • Yeah yeah, just keep telling yourself im listening to your comments. =]

  • You have a video of a 2yr old you want to buy being loped around.Why would you want to buy a horse that is going to be crippled?? I guess Im just to old to be as smart as you..

  • as the right he can do that, and i bet he is more experianced with horses than you are, he trains them with gentle kind ways, unlike you, who probably waits till the horse is 4 years old and puts more pressure and pain on the horse. doing it when the horse is younger is way less stressfull, oh and 4 ur info, nobody in the world knows everything about horses, and almost everyone knows atleast one thing about horses , so

  • Are you crazy? Putting a saddle on and riding a yearling? You do what you want, but that poor horse will have weak bones and will have to retire early because of leg/back problems.

  • Omg That Horse Will Be Crippled By Three! Wut the hell do yu think yur doing ?

  • Well he's 3 now & still hobbleing around.4 minutes & 42 seconds on an 18 month for 5-6 days...Please take some spelling lessons & send a video of your horse.

  • Funny part is... even if people did believe in starting yearlings, who'd WANT to go to this guy after reading his responses? It's a red flag in my book.

  • I think i'll try to struggle along without you....

  • How about letting the poor horse grow up?? I'm not saying leave them in the field and do nothing, there are other ways to work them besides getting on their back!! I grew up with Arabians and no young horse was started under saddle until age 4, this was to allow joints to close and the horse to be ready for a rider. Starting yearlings under saddle is just stupid, crippling them for the kill buyer! There's plenty of training to do before getting on their back.

  • nah you keep an open mind..you 12 year old ;)

    you respond like a lil kid..try acting like an adult for a change..

    ya horse "breaker"

    only an asshat would quote that 4 year olds are hard to train..shows how much you know hah!

  • Show me where i said 4yr olds were hard to train..By the way a friend sent me the link to where you & your expert horseman friends are saying how mean i am & how good horsemen let them go till they are 5-6 or whatever.Keep it up im LMAO.

  • Idiot. You're probably crippling the poor thing for life. And I reckon I know FAR more about livestock then you, you're just a backwards wannabe cowboy.

  • A 20yr old from the UK with vast livestock experience?? My colts will be going long after your over fat "horse" is crippled.You really need to take it out of the stall & ride it sometime.

  • You are sooo clever. A, I'm not a man. B, I'm not 20, and C, my horses live out 24/7 in a 20 acre field. And actually, my horse is perfect weight, they have to be to be fit and eventing. And SOUND. Unlike your poor little baby pony.

  • Yes, racehorses do get broke very early. that doesn't make it RIGHT.

    Sure, they will be sound for a few years. But I bet you don't keep your racehorses past the age of 10. What happens to them then? Half of them are CRIPPLED. Is that the future you want to give your horses?

    I've worked with both riding, and race horses. I have never seen good from starting a horse to early except a quick $.

  • hahah no you act like an adult... i can tell by your comments you're not ;)

  • Try to keep an open mind,ya just might learn something...

  • Dude, seriously...your brain clearly lacks enough wattage to even light my fridge. How is it that you believe comparing yourself to the RACING industry makes you appear good? You might as well be bragging about how you make sure your horses are lame and arthritic by 5-10. Certainly not someone I'd buy a horse from or take one to for training! But at least you were clear about it...so that we know to avoid you!

  • You people with one horsie in your back yard or stuck at someones barn that you see once a week amuse me with all your fairy tail "knowledge."Mabey someday you'll realize how little you know. LOL,i've had race horses for 25 years

  • Honey, I hate to brake it to you, but starting a yearling is like putting a 5yr old in the construction industry. There are MANY studies to back this up. Horses knees don't close untill they are 2, and their backs aren't developed enough for riding until they are 4. And don't even bring up the racing industry, because its stupid to follow the practices of the industry that provides the most horses for slaughter. YAY for breaking down early!!! Poor things, they'll be permenatly lame by 5:(

  • Can't ride um till their 4 huh..I just don't know where you people come from but i know it's not from anywhere where they have any knowledge of livestock

  • hey asshats...the reason why you don't ride yearlings IS TO LET IT GROW!! yearlings are like 12 year olds..you don't ride your 12 year old do ya???

    and that whole they get harder to train when they grow up is bullshit..you probably never even tried...nothing but total bullshit

    good luck ruining that horse..

  • pookybrain (the name fits)You should put down the crack pipe & clean up your mouth.& then try to discuss things with grownups.

  • pookybrain is a well educated, experienced adult. You haven't been around those too often have you?

  • Actually pdj47 thoroughbreds are broken at 18 months and raced at 2 years. It's not like they need alot of education to race and it only takes 6-8 weeks to get these horses fit.

    So breaking in a yearling is totally out of the question!

    Whether a horse has it's balls or not does not alter the age of breaking!

    I pity the hundreds of horses you have worked on over the last 50 years.

  • HELLO...I said he was a yr & 1/2.On my planet thats 18 months & walking around is far from race training.Not sure where the balls comment came from...In fact im not sure where people like you come from!!

  • Its called Earth.

  • Then why don't you know that a yr & 1/2 is the same as 18 months/

  • how old and not bad at all did good.

  • ok ok ok !! I know i had a go cos you tie your horses legs together for weeks on end, and we came to a truce..........but this?!?! you are riding a yearling!!! Helloooooo what about his back?! I agree with the tack on but not actully riding!! dear o dear.

  • They are hobbled a day or 2,not weeks on end..Im sure the 5 minutes i walked this colt didn't do him any damage.Have you ever watched a horse race?They are on the track at 2 & started at the same time i start my colts.If i ever do anything to suit you be sure to let me know!!

  • ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh you do do some stuff, like your video on bombproofing em. but this is dont agree with. dont agree with racing either, at 2!! the poor things................maybe im just feeling argumentiv lol sorry

  • In my video's i just show things that have worked for me on hundreds of horses over the last 50 years & it's worked out pretty well for me & the horses i've handled. Wait till ya see the video's i post this spring on spring branding at the local ranches.Your really going to flip out when ya see them!!

  • omg i cant get on my filly untill she is 3 years old

  • Letting a colt go until they are 3 is like letting a kid run wild until they are 15 & then sending them to kindergarten & expecting them to sit down & shut up.The horses in the Kentucky Derby are 3yrs old!! You need a new adviser.

  • well my filly is an arabian and u must not no a lot about arabians because they mature way s l o w e r then a normal horse and i asked a lady that has been training arabians for 30 years and she said the fall of there 3rd year IS WHEN U START and u no what i do not need A NEW adviser AND I DONT HAVE A COLT I HAVE A FILLY!!!

  • I agree with pdj47.. thats stupid. The older they get the harder it will be.. he's not saying work your horse.. just back him.. get used to basic things.. so its not a big deal in the future.. like it will be for yours when it turns 3, after doing nothing until that age.

  • Yup,no point in letting them get big,stout & set in their ways before they go to pre school.

  • I like your method of thinking. If I lived closer I'd be going to you for help! haha Awesome job!

  • We start them at 18 months as well thats pretty common as long its only a small amount of learning and work etc.

  • As i said in the video i ride them for around 10 minutes a day for 10 days & turn them out for a while.Waiting for a colt to turn 3 before you start them is like lettin' a kid run wild till they are 12 & then expect them to sit down & shut up. pdj

  • the horse did good, i like your method, but why r u riding a horse at only a year and half old?

  • nevermind on the ride I just heard its his 3rd time sorry.

  • Poco colts are usually nice to work with,just go easy & like i say don't scare um or make um mad & she should be a good one.

  • Great job! Is this his 1st ride? Do you have anymore breaking video's. I have just started my double Reg. Poco Bueno filly, She has been saddled and lead and doing well she has had all of the ground work done.

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