I heard this version before I heard the original.....and I loved it. In fact, this version made me search for the original, which is awesome in it's own right. Thanks JD and VU!
Schwing.....I didnt mean nico on this track......I miss her on every track VU did...though she only sang a few(witten specifically for her) on the BEST VU album...the banana album....I had a peal away i sold for 65 dollars I still wish I had.
For some reason, (despite the absence of Nico of course)......I love this cover of sister ray off still.....I hope you know Ian was straight edge and didnt smack. Early stuff from JD Stiff Kittens and Warsaw shows that. Lou Reed approves.
This song is featured on the compilation album "Still". Still features a bunch of songs which were probobly about to be released like "Ceremony" which became New Order's rise back up to the top. The last third of the record is live tracks from a show.
The point of this cover is that they were paying homage to their favourite band ,not that Ian could remember lyrics that on any given day Lou couldn't remember.
i think they were into speed much more. i've read that lou had more of a romantic fascination with drug culture than actually participating in it as much as he let on.
But there was a point in his life where he was heavy into drugs. I think he preferred writing about those few moments of his drug use rather than using.
@LeLimeLine i think lou did d earlyer but really was speed freaks remember back then diet pills were real speed like bams little yellow pills that drop in spoon put water on draw up and shoot were real big in the lower east side.
@LeLimeLine before andy picked them up they did what was the cheapest and d. was when they lived on Ludlow st [ les ] $2 a bag for what would cost $100 today if you could even get real herion nowdays its all pills crushed up got to be an ass to do drugs nowdays
@cecopiteco yes mostly speed freeks listen to white light white heat speed,also remember at max,s all the druging went on in the back of the bar, alot of them were gay, not that i care hey do your on thing just don,t hit on me.
I've always loved the Velvets & JD, but this sounds like a busted dogshit nailed to the front of a train wreck. Boring music mixed with mumbled forgotten lyrics - primo!!
HA HA HA: "this sounds like a busted dogshit nailed to the front of a train wreck". I think Curtis and co. would have loved that description back then.
i really love both bands, but velvet's version is far more better then this, lou reed just make frenzy atmosphere while distortion on drugs is screaming in.
Been a Velvets fan for 40 years; didn't know about this. JD was one of a handful of bands with the integrity and understanding to take on the VU's work. This is a good take but the problem is surely that in 1966-68 the Velvets were operating on another level entirely. To me, their first two albums are simply unassailably great. I'm not a musician, just a devoted follower, and over countless listenings I've never even begun to fathom out how the FUCK the unhinged genius of Sister Ray was created.
No Sister Ray is the name of a tranny.This song is about a bunch of amphetamine addicts and sailors shooting up speed at a party where someone gets shot and no one even cares.
@ajwo1026 what does that actually mean, covered with complete sincerity? sincerity doesn't come into the matter. or by sincerity do you mean a stripped back version with an intense vocal?
Can you imagine if Joy Division tried to play "Sister Ray" the way the Velvets did? Considering Ian Curtis' shaky personal life and his epileptic fits, the whole band might have imploded on the spot.
Velvet Underground is my favourite band but I don't like Joy Division that much. Nevertheless, this is fine cover. I think covers shouldn't be simple imitation of the original, Joy Division gave their own feel to it.
Joy Division is one of my favourite bands at this point (together with the Velvet Underground and maybe two more), but I personally don't like this cover. Or should I say, I don't think there's anything special about it. The orignial Sister Ray blows me away, but this tired, "heavier" version just kinda sits there. I'm pretty sure it was fun to play and to listen to if you were at the show, and I believe its current value lies in the fact that it was the only cover by Joy Division ever recorded.
this song really shows that besides the fact that they are legendary now,, in their time time they felt as humble towards the Velvet underground as we now feel humble towards them!
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That's what I think too, but I ended up getting a load of thumbs down. I think Joy Division could be really energetic and let themsleves go, but this track sounds like a bunch of half arsed wankers.
this version wasn't their very last show--it was around 2-3 months before their last show. the last show can be found on "still" (starting on the next song after sister ray, actually). i'm probably going to get some objections, but IMO the actual final show was not that well-played and terribly recorded.
this version of sister ray is awesome though, don't get me wrong.
well this was a month before his death, another thing is there final performance is amazing but the recording for ceremony, a first time performance was poorly recorded other than that it was a amazing performance
TUNE IN KIDDIES ..... Doesn't get any better than this !!! Pure Brilliance .... This is the stuff that legends are made of ... God I miss real music that makes you feel like jumping out of your skin ...
Ian Curtis will live forever!
paulrobertsun 1 month ago
Ladies and gentlemen: the only time you'll get to hear Ian Curtis utter the words "Sucking on my ding dong"
herecomesmrbillsdog 2 months ago 11
as mr nintendo asked before me.. why IS this clipped?? should be 07:34 according to my copy of still
sebsdadez 2 months ago
this is the bestt thiing ever. Ian Curtis I LOVEEEEE YOU!@!!!!!!
JizmmmyJazz 3 months ago
Why is this clipped?
NintendoSegaSonyGuy 3 months ago
This is great. Not the original, which is in a class of its own, but hell yes.
touchandgod 5 months ago
People are on crack this cover is just catchy as fuck... :s
LiveJoyDivision 7 months ago 3
I heard this version before I heard the original.....and I loved it. In fact, this version made me search for the original, which is awesome in it's own right. Thanks JD and VU!
Nocturne2 8 months ago
ouch, not good. but then again it's really hard covering a song like that...
EnokiSkai 8 months ago
nice new wave psychedelic sound with some post punk too
djmusicjac 8 months ago
it sounds great, rough and real.
leedumett444 9 months ago
I'm not digging Curtis' voice on this one. Shame.
UHandsomeDevil 11 months ago
Class...
raymievision 1 year ago
i can't make out what the third note is in the riff. :(
UltimateVenom 1 year ago
@UltimateVenom it goes G ...F C
LouReedsBooks 11 months ago
i LOVE this
ETLfromspace 1 year ago
Not gonna be biased here...not that great...oh well, still love JD.
billybobthe3rd 1 year ago
@billybobthe3rd cuz you gotta dig the sweet sweet noise.
djey308 1 year ago
@billybobthe3rd you gotta dig the sweet sweet noise.
djey308 1 year ago
La canción original de velvet underground suena mal y esta versión suena peor! Así és QUE VIVA EL PUNK DE TODOS LOS TIEMPOS!!!
velatin01 1 year ago
SOUNDS REAL. THATS WHAT GREAT. NOTHING FAKE
leedumett444 1 year ago 3
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"He sounds like Jim Morrison mixed with Iggy Pop" lol he sounds like Ian Curtis.
slutzs99 1 year ago
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"He sounds like Jim Morrison mixed with Iggy Pop" lol he sounds like Ian Curtis.
slutzs99 1 year ago
carajo nunca habia escuchado un cover tan malo jaja
pero esta pegostiosa jaja
THCSOUNDS1 1 year ago
He sounds like Jim Morrison mixed with Iggy Pop
ybot1983 1 year ago
You should hear their version of 'Louie Louie'. Well...
barryshostakovitch 1 year ago
R.I.P. Ian Curtis.... great cover dude. Whereever you are, we love you :)
BohemianAsh 1 year ago
I don't know why I like this cover... it kinda sounds like shit but it's catchy.
Megajosh2 1 year ago
i have to say, Joy Division and The Velvet Underground are both in my top 10 favourite bands ever, but this is pretty shite
KingSandwell 1 year ago
I have this pic on a tshirt
clancy2k 1 year ago
such a wonderfull song
utarefsonmetushelac 1 year ago
I'm with ajwo1026, this is a hell of a cover. Means, perfect and brillant.
andreasheinz 1 year ago
Schwing.....I didnt mean nico on this track......I miss her on every track VU did...though she only sang a few(witten specifically for her) on the BEST VU album...the banana album....I had a peal away i sold for 65 dollars I still wish I had.
noveltyme 1 year ago
@noveltyme
saw one being sold for $700US on Ebay about 2 weeks ago. 35 years ago everyone had one LOL
fredtable 1 year ago
@noveltyme
fredtable 1 year ago
For some reason, (despite the absence of Nico of course)......I love this cover of sister ray off still.....I hope you know Ian was straight edge and didnt smack. Early stuff from JD Stiff Kittens and Warsaw shows that. Lou Reed approves.
noveltyme 1 year ago
@noveltyme Nico wasn't on Sister Ray
schwinglow 1 year ago
@noveltyme thank god nico wasn't on the White Light White Heat album...
nimatek667 1 year ago
this is like two scoops of my favorite ice cream!!!!!!!
cwbell 1 year ago 18
he had a beaiful and paiful conception about life ! sorry about my english !
JOANLONDES 1 year ago
This song is featured on the compilation album "Still". Still features a bunch of songs which were probobly about to be released like "Ceremony" which became New Order's rise back up to the top. The last third of the record is live tracks from a show.
iTziNiQuiTyx 1 year ago
They only made two studio albums. Still isn't a proper album.
321joecakes 2 years ago 6
+singles\sessions ;)
PublicJoe88 1 year ago
Indeed Still had been finished AFTER Ian's death, in 198. But all the songs had been sung by him so still can be considered as a Joy division's album
gabriel94220 1 year ago
@gabriel94220 not really, is just a post post album.. I think you confuse with "closer"
cecopiteco 1 year ago
and closer and unkonwn pleasures make 3 man !
nikjagger 2 years ago
Joy division only had two albums. Still wasn't one of them.
321joecakes 2 years ago
still is a joy division album
knownpleasures 2 years ago
This is from "Still" the final Joy Division album, released after Ians death.
Nostrinian 2 years ago 4
I use to have this album, does someone know the name of the album?
cccroft 2 years ago
"you should hear our version of Louie Louie... whoa."
amandolin0 2 years ago 2
sorry I hit the wrong thumb
cccroft 2 years ago
interesting
Gigsixstring 2 years ago
knob head
TheMickricho 2 years ago
Predominately heroin, but everything else too. Lou Reed and Nico definitely seemed to prefer heroin though.
indiedrugmusic 2 years ago
Nico was already not involved with VU. Also White LIght White Heat was the the Velevets move away from Warhol.
Darkstarz25 2 years ago 3
Not a bad cover.
Robinhoodarch 2 years ago
The point of this cover is that they were paying homage to their favourite band ,not that Ian could remember lyrics that on any given day Lou couldn't remember.
72jjw 2 years ago 3
Velvet Underground were notorious heroin users, but John Cale favored amphetamines, and there was much crossover drug use.
Remix4357 2 years ago 5
VU were on speed not on smack right ?
cecopiteco 2 years ago
both
djboony 2 years ago
I believe they were predominantly on smack, not speed, judging by the song "Heroine", and their slower paced music.
LeLimeLine 2 years ago 3
history says both- at the factory speed was the thing -
Dranectrakon 2 years ago 4
white light/ white heat is about taking amphetamines (i.e. speed)--I'd think it'd be a safe bet to say they did it all.
oscarlittlebear 2 years ago
I'm sure they did, but I was figuring that they predominantly did heroin.
LeLimeLine 2 years ago
i think they were into speed much more. i've read that lou had more of a romantic fascination with drug culture than actually participating in it as much as he let on.
deadzeppelin 2 years ago
But there was a point in his life where he was heavy into drugs. I think he preferred writing about those few moments of his drug use rather than using.
hightimesbruce 2 years ago
@LeLimeLine i think lou did d earlyer but really was speed freaks remember back then diet pills were real speed like bams little yellow pills that drop in spoon put water on draw up and shoot were real big in the lower east side.
michael07307 1 year ago
@LeLimeLine before andy picked them up they did what was the cheapest and d. was when they lived on Ludlow st [ les ] $2 a bag for what would cost $100 today if you could even get real herion nowdays its all pills crushed up got to be an ass to do drugs nowdays
michael07307 1 year ago
@cecopiteco yes mostly speed freeks listen to white light white heat speed,also remember at max,s all the druging went on in the back of the bar, alot of them were gay, not that i care hey do your on thing just don,t hit on me.
michael07307 1 year ago
Awesome!
Vinseneb 2 years ago
I've always loved the Velvets & JD, but this sounds like a busted dogshit nailed to the front of a train wreck. Boring music mixed with mumbled forgotten lyrics - primo!!
PS fuck all of you
Quodlibet123 2 years ago
HA HA HA: "this sounds like a busted dogshit nailed to the front of a train wreck". I think Curtis and co. would have loved that description back then.
dastgahshur 2 years ago 39
Love to hear their version of Louie Louie.
jpfiloramo 2 years ago
JOY DIVISION!!!
RESPECT!!!
karziflora 2 years ago 5
I never heard this, great one!
djtimelord 2 years ago 2
yeah real good cover, but I need the last 12 minutes haha
schackercrack 2 years ago 6
the feedback is funny
Abortive 2 years ago 2
IN THE VU ESPIRT BUT come on where is the other 5 min ?
thebong1 2 years ago 2
the last 5 minutes probably would have taken up a lot of their set and they had other songs but yeah i miss it too
icutyouupsobad 2 years ago 3
What a song! What a song! What a song!
A great velvet underground cover!
Love him!
Somedaysoon70 2 years ago
i really love both bands, but velvet's version is far more better then this, lou reed just make frenzy atmosphere while distortion on drugs is screaming in.
myslav 2 years ago 6
i like how its quiet and creepy in the beginning, but around the 4 minute mark it gets really embarrassing... How about Louie Louie?
kinginthecorner 2 years ago
good band but terrible cover
CK2890 2 years ago
Been a Velvets fan for 40 years; didn't know about this. JD was one of a handful of bands with the integrity and understanding to take on the VU's work. This is a good take but the problem is surely that in 1966-68 the Velvets were operating on another level entirely. To me, their first two albums are simply unassailably great. I'm not a musician, just a devoted follower, and over countless listenings I've never even begun to fathom out how the FUCK the unhinged genius of Sister Ray was created.
nibs2lou 2 years ago
From vague memory, the song is something about a transvestite sailor. Can't be bothered meself, but maybe u should google it.
Yeah, Velvets were the most original band of the late 60s, and I love them, but there is Zappa too, who i liked a lot, but not as much.
door2yourheart 2 years ago
sister ray is slang for morphine
djboony 2 years ago 3
No Sister Ray is the name of a tranny.This song is about a bunch of amphetamine addicts and sailors shooting up speed at a party where someone gets shot and no one even cares.
OrchidOxycodone 2 years ago 6
Exactly. And the name Sister Ray comes as an homage to Ray Davies from The Kinks.
cactaceous 2 years ago 2
@cactaceous that sounds dumb
michael07307 1 year ago
i quite liked this!
quite possibly the best piece of rock music ever written? along with european son
papajoveth 2 years ago
Maybe, except sister ray was completely ad lib.
comradeash 2 years ago
Quite possibly the last time the Velvets were covered with complete sincerity.
ajwo1026 2 years ago 63
Agreed and with a bit more oomph!
beautydaddy 2 years ago 3
read: "I'm Beginning to See the Light" as performed by Factrix
tokyohalogen 2 years ago
@ajwo1026 hey I'm sure many people (including myself) still cover the velvets with complete sincerity! just not as bold and awesome...
merdufer 1 year ago
@ajwo1026 what does that actually mean, covered with complete sincerity? sincerity doesn't come into the matter. or by sincerity do you mean a stripped back version with an intense vocal?
TJmoneymaker13 1 year ago
@ajwo1026 Oh, so you don't think that the Sisters of Mercy version of Sister Ray is with complete sincerity.
octaviano1296 1 year ago
Can you imagine if Joy Division tried to play "Sister Ray" the way the Velvets did? Considering Ian Curtis' shaky personal life and his epileptic fits, the whole band might have imploded on the spot.
poughkeepsiejohn 3 years ago 5
I thought JD did a good job on this,I have it on the Still double lp.
robert140602 3 years ago 2
Velvet Underground is my favourite band but I don't like Joy Division that much. Nevertheless, this is fine cover. I think covers shouldn't be simple imitation of the original, Joy Division gave their own feel to it.
I see it as some kind of hommage to VU!
schmrtz666 3 years ago
Joy Division is one of my favourite bands at this point (together with the Velvet Underground and maybe two more), but I personally don't like this cover. Or should I say, I don't think there's anything special about it. The orignial Sister Ray blows me away, but this tired, "heavier" version just kinda sits there. I'm pretty sure it was fun to play and to listen to if you were at the show, and I believe its current value lies in the fact that it was the only cover by Joy Division ever recorded.
phobioid 3 years ago 2
They played a few covers live. Gimme Your Heart was a section 25 song.
frottery 2 years ago
@phobioid it's a simple three chords classic such as louie louie but less jolly "..you should listen to our version of louie louie..."
it's a nyc louie louie sort of
cecopiteco 1 year ago
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phobioid 3 years ago
an amazing cover by a legendary band
DarkFukt 3 years ago
this song really shows that besides the fact that they are legendary now,, in their time time they felt as humble towards the Velvet underground as we now feel humble towards them!
Just a thought.BEST FUCKING SONG EVER
KidA270 3 years ago 4
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Curtis can't even remember the words, the mic feeds back, it's boring and goes on and on. Why did this end up on disc? It's awful.
ClemenzaKimble 3 years ago
The mic feeds back? The Velvet Underground album White light/ White heat has a fucken shitload of feedback.
DanceBrooklyn 3 years ago
half dead bullshit listen to the original
Justen1980 3 years ago
agreed, i'm a huge joy division (and velvet underground)fan but this cover is just terrible. terrible guitar
GamerCall 3 years ago
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That's what I think too, but I ended up getting a load of thumbs down. I think Joy Division could be really energetic and let themsleves go, but this track sounds like a bunch of half arsed wankers.
ClemenzaKimble 3 years ago
think its on the Peel sesions...great up thanks
frazerrothko 3 years ago
F*cking top drawer. Hadn't heard it before.
Thanks for posting it.
Much appreciated.
HappyYippie 3 years ago 6
not from the last gig, but from the moonlight club, west london april 1980.
serial841 3 years ago
this isnt from their last performance. it's one of the last but look as still, that'll tell you it has their last show minus 24 hours
negativecreep90 3 years ago
to favorites!!!
MariaVainilla 3 years ago 2
this cover was made during there last live performance! wow wat a song
MrZZiZZler 3 years ago 2
this version wasn't their very last show--it was around 2-3 months before their last show. the last show can be found on "still" (starting on the next song after sister ray, actually). i'm probably going to get some objections, but IMO the actual final show was not that well-played and terribly recorded.
this version of sister ray is awesome though, don't get me wrong.
envika 3 years ago
well this was a month before his death, another thing is there final performance is amazing but the recording for ceremony, a first time performance was poorly recorded other than that it was a amazing performance
MrZZiZZler 3 years ago
wow...thanks for posting...
dioncat 3 years ago 4
TUNE IN KIDDIES ..... Doesn't get any better than this !!! Pure Brilliance .... This is the stuff that legends are made of ... God I miss real music that makes you feel like jumping out of your skin ...
sp4172 3 years ago 5