your leaking curet on the edges of your plates put a litle bit of electrolite and put in a clear container and youll see that your only getting gas production on the edge of the plates try puting 1/8 tubing on the edge of the plates and you will see that your going to get the gas coming out of the face not the edge
Your max HHO production is still relative to the max current. There will be a point when the reaction will be so high that the water will boil, but even still, the max HHO production will ALWAYS be relative to the amount of electric charge applied.
@quickshell The pulse circuit is the key. For one thing, the adsorption characteristics of polished SS are bad. For another, if you limit the surface area you will limit production. For a larger surface area the pulse has to be precisely set. Stanley Meyer was able to run a car, now two guys from the Southwest US have done the same.. This guy's done a good job; but he needs to do some more homework. Running a full-size car or truck CAN be done. Let's keep working folks! The grid gods will DIE!
I Get my little unit doing the same, it fills up with hydrogen very fast almost imediately, using 21 plates..... + nnn - nnn+nnn-nnn+nnn-, it works very well indeed,
thom in scotland.
ps. good info about the straps going all way to bottom.
There's the same problem I have with the whole idea of generating hydrogen within a vehicle. You will never get more energy from burning hydrogen and oxygen than it took to separate the two in the first place. Even in an absolutely energy tight system (which is impossible) you would only break even. Basic laws of energy state the idea to be impossible from the start.
The idea that getting a gain using Hydrogen is a fact... just saying it isn't doesn't mean a thing.. Check your facts before you "dis" a good idea. There are now over 400 videos that I have made.. some of them you might be interested in.. and a new cell. John AArons
Considering that a gasoline engine is about 30% efficient, and the alternator only probably 80% at best.
Putting more strain on the alternator (shortening life), and possibly likely draining your battery, even if you could get 100% efficiency splitting the water molecules, you would lose over 80% of the energy when burned in the engine.
@x65535x Hi . this in regards to use more gas,,alternators are not the source of energy, they just put into order what is already there in the void for work, think about it this way,,they don't work without voltage to ignite the rotor" have no perm magnets"
if everything was BRAKE EVEN or under unity the battery would go dead running the alternator rotor to produce the mag field on the stator and not even the gasoline fired engine let alone the accessories would work. Energy is all around us .
@Nighthawkinlight Hi, my prior post read to x6535x please, The whole universe is full of an endless supply of free energy,,all we need is the right combination of orchestration to make it sing as we wish, thanx
hey how come your not having the water overheating? every time i got a decent amount of h the water would overheat after 15 mins,is pwm really a big help?
I and everyone else is adding Hydrogen to the mix... no one has been able to run the car (standard) only on Hydrogen On Demand..(many say they have but ...)
hey john i have a 6 cell generator that i just put into my car, but the fuse bus that i have running to it keeps blowing. its a 30amp fuse. am i possibly using too much sodium bicarb/vinegar solution you think?
10 plates now, you know water when broken down to the smallest molocule, is 2 parts hydrogen 1 part oxygen, you need to go 2 (-) plates for 1 (+) plate, for the most effect. DC can only be so much current, AC can ecceed DC by far! we need to see if we can increase the voltage, and create what is know as an electric arc between the plates. can you comment and tell what your plate setup is? +--+--+--+? current flows to the negatice from the positve because it wants to ground!
FROM JOHN AARONS..Please do not use Corp. Names here... If you have any company you want me to look at.. email me at "johnaarons at hydrogentap dot com" Thanks
John you inspired me to experiment with electricity generation and battery charging manipulation. I have had some success thanks to you. Congratulation on your 300 videos. I watched every video all 300. Thanks for the knowledge you have given to all of us.
JA, interesting formula. On one of my cells I have a +NNN- configuration, plates are 2x5 inches in size. The spacing between the plates are 1/16 of an inch, so the space between the plates connected electrically are 1/4 of an inch. What I found was that when adding electrolyte, there was a point when the electrolyte seemed to have no effect, around 2 teaspoons worth, anything after this amount made no difference to the output of gas. I found it interesting that the water still boiled heavily
hi, i like what give you more miles in ur car, what should be the main fucus?
NIZEDEAL 5 months ago
your leaking curet on the edges of your plates put a litle bit of electrolite and put in a clear container and youll see that your only getting gas production on the edge of the plates try puting 1/8 tubing on the edge of the plates and you will see that your going to get the gas coming out of the face not the edge
edgarjesusrodriguez 1 year ago
Your max HHO production is still relative to the max current. There will be a point when the reaction will be so high that the water will boil, but even still, the max HHO production will ALWAYS be relative to the amount of electric charge applied.
quickshell 2 years ago
@quickshell The pulse circuit is the key. For one thing, the adsorption characteristics of polished SS are bad. For another, if you limit the surface area you will limit production. For a larger surface area the pulse has to be precisely set. Stanley Meyer was able to run a car, now two guys from the Southwest US have done the same.. This guy's done a good job; but he needs to do some more homework. Running a full-size car or truck CAN be done. Let's keep working folks! The grid gods will DIE!
saturnx311 9 months ago
I Get my little unit doing the same, it fills up with hydrogen very fast almost imediately, using 21 plates..... + nnn - nnn+nnn-nnn+nnn-, it works very well indeed,
thom in scotland.
ps. good info about the straps going all way to bottom.
fuelban 2 years ago
Keep up the good work..
John AArons
johnaarons 2 years ago
You guys need to negatively charge your water, i have found ORMES in this manner.
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
doesnt the alternator just get tighter as the current is drawn thus using more hp anyway?
hhohydrogen 3 years ago
There's the same problem I have with the whole idea of generating hydrogen within a vehicle. You will never get more energy from burning hydrogen and oxygen than it took to separate the two in the first place. Even in an absolutely energy tight system (which is impossible) you would only break even. Basic laws of energy state the idea to be impossible from the start.
Nighthawkinlight 3 years ago
The idea that getting a gain using Hydrogen is a fact... just saying it isn't doesn't mean a thing.. Check your facts before you "dis" a good idea. There are now over 400 videos that I have made.. some of them you might be interested in.. and a new cell. John AArons
johnaarons 3 years ago
thank you
acount134 3 years ago
Considering that a gasoline engine is about 30% efficient, and the alternator only probably 80% at best.
Putting more strain on the alternator (shortening life), and possibly likely draining your battery, even if you could get 100% efficiency splitting the water molecules, you would lose over 80% of the energy when burned in the engine.
Useless. Just uses more gas.
x65535x 2 years ago
@x65535x Hi . this in regards to use more gas,,alternators are not the source of energy, they just put into order what is already there in the void for work, think about it this way,,they don't work without voltage to ignite the rotor" have no perm magnets"
if everything was BRAKE EVEN or under unity the battery would go dead running the alternator rotor to produce the mag field on the stator and not even the gasoline fired engine let alone the accessories would work. Energy is all around us .
Eddlipton 1 year ago
@Nighthawkinlight Hi, my prior post read to x6535x please, The whole universe is full of an endless supply of free energy,,all we need is the right combination of orchestration to make it sing as we wish, thanx
Eddlipton 1 year ago
hey how come your not having the water overheating? every time i got a decent amount of h the water would overheat after 15 mins,is pwm really a big help?
hhohydrogen 3 years ago
oh i meant at 13.8 volts. but pick a real obscure voltage so we have to beat our brains out figuring out what you mean
john29302 3 years ago
Have you got your car running only on hho with no gasoline? Has anybody? How did they do it?
ed6ontube 3 years ago
I and everyone else is adding Hydrogen to the mix... no one has been able to run the car (standard) only on Hydrogen On Demand..(many say they have but ...)
John AArons
johnaarons 3 years ago
What about attaching a adjustable amp meter in line to control how much amp you have as input?
scottp334 3 years ago
The easiest way to pull down the amps would be a PWM...
John AArons
johnaarons 3 years ago
hey john i have a 6 cell generator that i just put into my car, but the fuse bus that i have running to it keeps blowing. its a 30amp fuse. am i possibly using too much sodium bicarb/vinegar solution you think?
unidenwellerbee 3 years ago
Yes ... the other answer is that the water you are using is full of minerals... You should be using distilled water ..
John AArons
johnaarons 3 years ago
Please can yout tell me the exact plates arrangement is it + N - and so on or something else
logidan123 3 years ago
hey john can you make a video or email me how to wire the automatic re filler for the cell on this video
skittles44444 3 years ago
Hay John... just wanted to say thanks for your efforts.
JukeBoxBear 3 years ago
10 plates now, you know water when broken down to the smallest molocule, is 2 parts hydrogen 1 part oxygen, you need to go 2 (-) plates for 1 (+) plate, for the most effect. DC can only be so much current, AC can ecceed DC by far! we need to see if we can increase the voltage, and create what is know as an electric arc between the plates. can you comment and tell what your plate setup is? +--+--+--+? current flows to the negatice from the positve because it wants to ground!
blazedkirby 3 years ago
Thats a long speech... I have posted that a hundred time... 11 plates (not 10) (+)(N)(-)(N) etch
John AArons
johnaarons 3 years ago
FROM JOHN AARONS..Please do not use Corp. Names here... If you have any company you want me to look at.. email me at "johnaarons at hydrogentap dot com" Thanks
John AArons
johnaarons 4 years ago
hi John what are you using for the electrical conectors (top lugs)?
thanks in advance
key2money 4 years ago
They are "Battery terminal extenders" (car battery)
John AA
johnaarons 4 years ago
Thanks Yes now I see it.
key2money 4 years ago
John you inspired me to experiment with electricity generation and battery charging manipulation. I have had some success thanks to you. Congratulation on your 300 videos. I watched every video all 300. Thanks for the knowledge you have given to all of us.
dnlbrsl 4 years ago
I thank you for your kind words... remember it is us the "KittyHawkers" that will do this... John AArons
johnaarons 4 years ago
JA, interesting formula. On one of my cells I have a +NNN- configuration, plates are 2x5 inches in size. The spacing between the plates are 1/16 of an inch, so the space between the plates connected electrically are 1/4 of an inch. What I found was that when adding electrolyte, there was a point when the electrolyte seemed to have no effect, around 2 teaspoons worth, anything after this amount made no difference to the output of gas. I found it interesting that the water still boiled heavily
babyella07 4 years ago
I believe that is where the formula will work.
How many plates are there.. John AArons
johnaarons 4 years ago
WoW! 300 vid's about Hydrogen! Impressed! You should make book.
Reg. Careica
Careica 4 years ago
300 ways to say I am learning...John AArons
johnaarons 4 years ago
perfect name. or 300 things to teach
crob227 4 years ago
I have an idea for sealing that cell!
If you waned let me know!
petimoritz 4 years ago
Always interested in new ideas... write me at "johnaarons at hydrogen tap dot com"... Thanks
John AArons
johnaarons 4 years ago