Tech Tips - Clutch Change

[dh4life100]

i just did the clutch on my cr 125. but when i put the pressure plate on i did push it in like you said. then i put all the springs on and finished it, but when i went up to the clutch and pulled it in it felt free. why is that?

[eazycheezie]

my bike slowley creeps foward and have to give it a lot of gas to get going. when i stop i have to use one of my brakes to the fullest power and hold about half throttle to keep it going. i thank its my clutch. what should i do ive thought about changeing my plates and basket but that alone is $230 OR IS IT SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS SPRINGS. please help

[shortyjk95]

@eazycheezie i would think its the springs because if you have to give it gas while stopped that means your clutch is in a sense constantly grabbing

[traysmashgangjr]

hey wtf wont my kx125 shift

[LaOxProdigY]

@2:41 Thats wat she said

[motoxcrazyness]

my 2005 kawasaki kx250f slowly creeps forward when in first while i hold clutch in. what would that be. thanks

[286trucker]

what years the bike ? I didnt even notice if it was a 250 which takes a judder spring..would REALLY HELP to explain what makes the two ODDBALL frictions must be obvious since no description of the difference

[Braaap341]

how much are clutches usually? i have a 2009 kx250f

[staticxmako]

all great info. but you could have warped the pressure plate. the most simple part. put the bolts in evenly and take them out evenly. turn each bolt 4-5 tiimes and move the one across

[mophead9615]

should i drain my oil before doing this?

[hein127]

u dont have to oil up the steel plates?

[WhammyMechanics]

@hein127 No.

[kengmeatleafer]

Heaps good video. Heaps good explanations. No stupid loud music over speaker.

[dreamakerkid]

this video was so much help i race atv and been paying for new cluch to be put in so ,sorry, for the mechanic luck i be putting all my in for now thanks ..have any on carb atv setting,,

[mojospin]

i have a 1991 cr250 the clutch wont work (wont run in gear and not move) any ideas?? i have a friend that is a mechanic and fixes his sons 5 bikes, he thinks it could have to many clutch rings or what ever theyre called, im not to good with gearboxes and stuff like that

when you tighten things that are ment to be torqed on the should be done in oppesites as they tighten equally

[VONT6]

i have a 1989 kx 250 when i start it and put it in gear it don't go or don't even budge when i let the clutch go what do you think is the problem put a new clutch kit in it?

[jessedog691]

i have an 07 kx 125,wen i release the clutch with a little amount of revs,the clutch has a grabby feel,is this a problem??

[lbethke]

If the o ring falls out i like to put in the freezer to shrink it down I have done this on o ring's on cylinder like zr 700 's and others

[harmz2005]

How do you properly maintain and care for your eyebrows?

[Sandeep9201]

Hey man i gotta Raptor 700R and when im in a high gear like 4th and im cruising and all of a sudden i punch it i hear the engine revving its lungs out as if its idling and i hold it to WOT. but the quad does go but the rear tires are not ripping up dirt as i punch it. is there a big chance my clutch is slipping??? how exactly does a dirt bike or quad behave with a slipping clutch??

[DEZY4LYF]

when my bike is running and i pull the clutch and put it in first it jumps forward and cuts out and the gears crunch what is most likely wrong?

[TPNitro199]

I have a 2002 cr 125, and after i take off the clutch cover, when i try to take out the screws, or even try to losen it up, my whole basket rotates, which doesn't allow me to take off the screws holding the pressure plate. how do i keep it from rotating, so i can take off the pressure plate screws?

[maxmc89]

@TPNitro199 Try engaging 5th gear.

[Hurgoelcanion]

My dirtbike is giving me problems with the clutch. I increase my rpm's and its not moving like it should. and when I pull the clutch, the bike feels like its slowing down. And when its turned of and I put first gear and pull the clutch, the bike is stuck as if i weren't pulling the clutch.. Is there any way to adjust it?

[yourneck2]

Great tutorial thanks, question how do you soften up the pull on the clutch handle?

[bloopaexpress]

so if your bike still pulls foward when you pull the clutch in its most likely the basket?

[danmcclainmadmaxx]

Eric mentioned the 2 oddball plates, which he installed first and last. I just installed them and didn't notice the odball ones so who knows where they are. Is that an issue? Is there a way visually determine which ones are the oddballs? Honda OEM clutch kit.

Also didn't install the metal plates all flat out or in.

[connormcewen]

ok so the other day i crashed, when i got up my bike was stalled in second gear so i tried to shift it down into neutral and it would go into neutral but it would keep slipping out. I finally got the bike in neutral. I put a new clutch lever on and tried to start the bike in 1st gear but when i kicked it the bike would move forward but, it would start in neutral fine. I adjusted all of the clutch adjustments but still it wont start in 1st and it wont push in 1st gear with the clutch pulled in?

[patlyon]

i just bought an old '81 it 175 and the clutch wont disengage. When i take apart the cover there is amagneto there, do i just keep going and take it apart or is there an easier solution as to why the clutch doesnt work?

[noplacelikehome92399]

i have a ? i just got new clutch springs but for no reason,i just wanted to replace them.when i took out the plates i see they are all in good condition but some of the steel plates have just a little tiny bit of blue and its not all of them,its just like 1 or 2 of them that have it on them and its just a line of blue,the whole plate is NOT blue! when i ride it rides strong,no slipping or loss of power at all.should i still replace them?thanks!

[llilcj]

on my 99 rm125 the clutch wont disengage i want to know if i have to replace it

[connormcewen]

@llilcj hey did you figure out whats wrong with your clutch? same thing is wrong with mine.

[rob37greenbike]

Thanks for the video. that gaskett trick is good info for someone not familiar with doin clutchs.im a privateer and my own mechanic.Today will be my first clutch repair so thanks again.

[itsonlyafl3shwound]

should always criss cross when removing or installing pressure plate bolts?

[dariocrr2trider]

i put a new clutch set, with hd springs and it still slips. Lever is adjusted properly. what could be the cause of my problem. 03 yz450f

[purex167entertainmen]

Hey i have a cr 125 and when i shift into 1st gear and give it gas, i move but it revs a lot. And also i can shift into 2nd gear but not 3rd gear or 4th+. Also if i stop in 1st gear and hold in the clutch and then i let go of the clutch to start moving im still stopped. This happends only sometimes but it does like say every other time i stop. Would this be my clutch? Or would this be something with the gears or something. About 3 people have told me its my clutch but im not sure.

[irockoutlouder1]

im having the same problem, when i pull the clutch and put in into first it tries to creep forward. Also, i have to let my clutch lever out about 85% of the way before i start moving. if i replace the basket will it fix these things?

[nubeslayer92]

how long would it take for someone to install a new clutch on a yz 125???

[TheRyan18x]

don't you have to do a star pattern when you take off the pressure plate? cause if you do it the way you did you can wrap that plate and crack it right?

[Jstunt420]

its really THAT easy?....awsome!!

[greasyredneck]

hey my bike clutch isnt disengaging any ideas

[budubum]

one question. do you really have to place the friction plates 2 teeth next to the previous? what happens if you dont but just make sure the teeth fits in the grooves?

[Dirtbikekrlos]

Great video. Thanks so much.

[17HAWKEYE17]

kinda but it wont start it has to be in nuetral

[brodsterxx]

no mate only if the bike moves when you put it into gear with the clutch in when the bike is on the ground

[17HAWKEYE17]

my bike want start in gear (and i do hold the clutch in) it just starts in N do you know whats wrong with it?

[halla369]

do the bike jump forwords when you try to start it in first gear?

[mxracer150r]

@17HAWKEYE17 If you have a crf 250 they dont start in gear. Mine doesnt either.

[kXo7]

Excellent video thanks very much :)

[FordsRule351]

i have a friend with a china dirtbike the engine is a honda knock off 150cc how hard would it be to change the clutch or would honda parts fit in it?

[chrism426]

you need one if when your idling in gear and when you rev it it moves even tho the clutch is in. or if it slips

[dirtbikelover93]

would i do the same for a yz80

[FordsRule351]

how often does a clutch need to be changed and what are some signs you clutch may be going bad?

[chrism426]

if its slipping or if your bike moves in gear with the clutch pulled even when its all adjusted

[dankingmxrules]

would it be the same for a 2004 rmz 250?

[dany24067]

would it be the same for a ltr

[LORDTREVORTON]

A quick tip if the o-ring falls out . wash it off with HOT water and dawn or another grease or oil cutting detergent. Throw it in the freezer for 15 minutes. And no it does not hurt the rubber o-ring at all. Also save money on the steel plates just install the fibers. It's not a drag bike so your not sliding the clutch to the 60' mark. Check them with a straight edge but chances are there perfect. A little blue hurts nothing. you can also glass bead them with fine glass if there too glazed.

[03yz85rider]

if u cant kick over ur bike but it will start with a push when its in gear, but yet it will only run for a bit, and every thing sounds normal do u think its clutch plates

[shibbyjekos]

If you have your bike in first gear and start it when its cold you will see it kicks forward... thats because the oil's viscosity and molecules between the plates are cold not moving as quick as it would when its warm... resulting in more friction between the plates causing it to grab and jump forward.... sorry didnt mean to comment on ur question 03yz85rider.. but for you... no doesnt sound like plates.

[dankingmxrules]

hey hows it goin,is the exact same changing technique used for a 2004 rmz 250?

[hill2t]

Dont forget to put your oil in after. : )

[robinflobin]

hot hot (o.O)

[wittockracing369]

is there a measurement that the pad is supposed to be cuz im wondering if mine are bad

[JoeNobody247]

plate manufacturer or bike manual gives a standard micrometer measurement with an out of tolerance spec.

[elemento1991]

On my 125 when I pull the clutch in the bike stalls unless I give it some gas and I can feel it pushing so its still got some friction I guess. Any advice as to what my problem could be? Sounds like the basket to me but I'm not sure. Its my first bike so any help is appreciated!

The tear down looks pretty simple. I should be able to do it myself

[shitsucker4l]

hey true about the o-ring but if it does come off you can use some grease to keep it in the groove when you put it back in ive done that before and and it really does work

[blairmacsweyn22moto]

well how often should the clutch be done should u wait till she doesnt work no more or should u do it yearly

[whyzee125]

when it starts slipping

[dude22573]

it would b pretty cool if you could find a gsx-r 600 to do a video on... :)

[belly242]

and same with my powerband is not working, the bike always bogs would that be from a leaking air flow.. into the carb thru the tube going from the air filter to the carb?

[belly242]

hey, boys i got a question on my KDX 80 it's an 81, i have the same problem with push starting and clutch not working would it be from the heat after a long ride or it from locking at TDC.. what effect would this have on my clutch not working?

[RealHimura]

Hey, thanks a lot, this is really helpful, now I'm not afraid of my clutch at all!

[muffinman1111111]

and one more quick question, if i keep riding my bike how it is now will the fiber plates break up and get carried up in my engine?

[muffinman1111111]

ok thanks alot, if i take the basket out will i beable to use the same tools showed in the video. thanks again

[muffinman1111111]

hey can you precision concepts dudes please answer my question? thank you

[muffinman1111111]

when my bike is stopped and i put it in first while holding the clutch it creeps forward. if i replace the clutch plates will this solve my problem, or will i have to replace my basket?

[precisionconcepts]

Sounds like you need to check your basket! Check for grooves where the knotches on the plates slide into the basket. Sometimes you can lightly file the grooves down, but it definitely sounds like your basket.

[kwanzy26]

hello i have a 1998 kdx 200 that got a few weeks ago and the guy i got it from said the clutch was bad so i ordered a clutch an oem and i took the clutch cover off and look like he took a hammer to it well after having few words with guy i got a new basket and all the parts for it the problem im having now is the clutch will not disengage. i can pull the clutch in and try to start it. its like im not even pulling in the clutch i can push start it and ride it but i cant use the clutch any ideas?

[brettwill87]

hi i was wondering if you knew what is wrong with my bike when i kick the bike up in nuetral pull the clutch in and as soon as i click it in to first it stalls but if i give it revs and click it into gear its ok do you think i need to replace the clutch thanks

[KrazyRMjumps]

just mess around with the bike clutch cable..

[KawiDirtRider]

i dont think u got a problem, when ever i kick mine into first i always have a little bit of revs but i have always done that, i dont pay attention when i kick it into first haha, i got a 07 kx250f

[lastweekx]

@precisionconcepts hey ummm ive found that my clutch slips but only after the bike has been running for about 30 mins. so i wanted to know b/c someone told me that changing the oil will solve this.. which would you reccommend. and is the technique any different to change clutch on a crf230f?? thanks for the help.

[snowboarderj07]

@muffinman1111111 my bike does the same thing. what did you do to fix it?

[HellriderArgento]

@muffinman1111111 Hi there!! I guess you have already solved the problem out with the clutch, have you? I'm now having the same issue that you described. I have removed the clutch cover to clean it from inside since I was not able to see how much oil there was in the engine and after placing the cover back into its place the bike ran fine for a day but now it's doing the same your bike was. Do you have any tip to share with me so that I can fix it up?

[ThePhilthymcnasty]

@muffinman1111111 just adjust your clutch cable till it don't creep buy backing the cable off or away from the engaged position about 3 turns of the adjustment nut until it stops creeping forward. hint- don't use the screw that's in the clutch lever until you've used the the nut and locknut above your clutch assbly just under the head pipe. use the screw in the clutch lever only to reduce or gice a little slop

[brrt2]

Hello, I'm looking T handles, which I've seen of aconsejais marks mac tools, procircuit, beta and snap-on Internet can not see them in part to deser to be very expensive.

thanks!

[mcqaude555]

78 in lbs is really all you need on those bolts

[alpinestars1111]

hey i have an 03 yz 250 just recently i have noticed that my 2nd gear slips sometimes. what could be the problem and what do i need to replace?

[crazychris2184]

Hi, today i went to go ride my KX125, and its stuck in gear. I changed the oil and it still wont go to nuetral nor will it shift to 2nd gear. It will only drive in 1st gear and it has to be pop started because when i hold the clutch in it jumps foward. Could it be that my clutch plates and disks are burned out? Let me know.

[gzu47]

damn i hate havin the o ring pop out it really sucks

[btownmxer]

they want you to replace the basket and the clutch center if you have the money, but if ur a broke racer like me you can get a little extra out of them if you file them down slightly

[btownmxer]

yes, like precision concepts said the fiber plates wear grooves on the basket and the steel disks wear grooves on the clutch center. Using a fine file I carefully file down the grooves until they are smooth and polish them with emery cloth. This really helps the arm pump with smooth clutch pull and engagement. Makes it feel like a brand new bike. Make sure you take care not to let shavings fall into the cases.

[YaMaHa2StRoKe]

ok thanx you guys are a real big help i will let you know how the clutch turns out . i am going to attempt it in a few days

[YaMaHa2StRoKe]

should i replace the plates and springs or the basket which. would be good

[precisionconcepts]

You know to replace the clutch basket if you pull in the clutch and your bike "creeps" forward. Also when changing the clutch, if the "fingers" on the basket (the knotches where the clutch plates fit in between) are not smooth. The clutch plates can knotch the "fingers" of the basket causing the plates to not be able to separate. I'd check the basket by taking the plates out first and inspecting the "Fingers." Your problem because of the clutch "Slipping" sounds like plates and springs.

[YaMaHa2StRoKe]

hey i have a question about my dirt bike. When i hit the power band on my yz80 it loses power and it will rev high. then it will suddenly just kick in. can this be that i need a rebuild. Can u help. Thanx.

[precisionconcepts]

Sounds like your clutch needs to be changed. That is what we would recommend.

[muffinman1111111]

ok thanks alot and i also have a question about how often i should do a top end on my yz250f. im your average rider, clearing all the jumps at the track but not doing any bubba scrubs. i only put about 3 to 4 hours on the bike a month and clean my air filter every 2 or 3 rides and change oil with filter every 5 or 6 rides. some people say to leave the engine alone unless you start hearing funny noises but i dont want the engine to blow up. im only 15 so i would not beable to afford a new engine.

[muffinman1111111]

will i start noticing signs if i need new clutch plates or any thing. because if i have my bike off and put it in first gear and pull the clutch in and try to push it it is kinda hard to push at first and then it gets really easy once it starts to move.

[precisionconcepts]

if the clutch is in and the back tire does not spin freely, it is a sign your clutch is going out. If the bike is on, in gear, clutch in, and you rev the motor and you can feel the bike slightly creep the clutch is going out.

[TJScott2012]

so, is it the same procedure on a 94 rm125? i priced all the things i need, oil, plates, springs, and a gasket, for $83. does that sound about right? thanks

[precisionconcepts]

View the response I left for Stikid305. The procedures are all "The Same" but in the response I left below, some makes/models have the knotched fiber plates and others do not. Also, $83 for a clutch change is a great price!

[crapgeey]

hey could you show me hop to do regular maintance on a yz80 or any other 2 stroke.Mabye even a engine rebuild

[precisionconcepts]

We will consider your suggestion for future tech tip videos. Thanks

[stikid305]

i dont get it whats the order and how you tell which one is a odd ball plate

[precisionconcepts]

On the 05-08 CRF450R/X there are two different kinds of "Friction Disks." The two special disks are the first and last to be installed. The two "Odd Balls" are part # 22201-MEB-670, and the 6 "Normal" are 22201-MEN-670. ***Note: Not all makes and models have two different Friction Disks, this bike in the video just happened to be one of them. Sorry for the confusion.

[TriggerGumm]

Awesome, thanks man. This is gonna save me alot of money:D

[TriggerGumm]

I dont get the tip about the notches? when u put the new clutch in how many notches do u move over?

[precisionconcepts]

some makes/models don't have the notches in their clutch plates. However if they do, start at any point on the clutch basket taking note where you put the notched tab of the clutch plate, placing the next notched clutch plate two slots over in the clutch basket from the last notch. Its hard to explain in writing but if want to give us a call, dial 877-9-PODIUM ext 2. See you at the races!

[mxdunksdad]

@precisionconcepts hi thanks for the great video for the mx dad mechanic its awesome. the clutch case is getting very hot and smells is that a sign i need to replace it?

[foxwhore]

wow thats very helpful thanks

[bubblyhash]

YES! IM SO GLAD FOR VIDEOS LIKE THIS! this saved me 150 buks.i didnt know it was that easy.

[Khorbka]

Sweet. Posted just in time for yz clutch repair. Good tips Precision Concepts!! I would love to see some good silencer repacking tips too.