ACLU Challenges Jeppesen Dataplan and CIA Rendition

[Patriot0fTheRepublic]

those who think this is all bush's doing are pretty ignorant, one the first thing Obama did was give the green light to continue the program. Wake up to the paradigm you've been presented, ask for real change.

[OneActivist]

Today my country, which is run by large corporations and not the people anymore, does many things I am ashamed of. The ACLU fights this but it is out gunned by all the power of the government.

[lanesuzza]

The ACLU will be the death of America!

[topchoices]

good job, must have been difficult to get this information! Thank you.

[hahaha1522]

charges. The attorney general makes those decisions, he and his subsidaries are responsible. Its sad to say that the president is just trying to gain support by unleasing the mess of crap that the CIA has done. But he is not willing to see it through.

[hahaha1522]

Unfortunately the people who are in charge never get their share of what should come to them. There is to much protection, to many loop holes. Today the news released data that the federal system will not press charges on those directly responsible for tortue. We are up againt the core back bone of our criminal justice system when they will not press

[Bkorczak]

It is a shameful part of the USA Bush government and CIA in particular. We were on a way to achieve fascism if not Obama elected prez. I worked for the CIA and now I am deeply sorry I ever did.

BK

[1kcharrison]

ACLU stands for American Criminal Liberal's Union.Anybody that hates America, supports degrading our society, a pedophile, or is basicly a micheal moore loving, MSLSD watching Kool Aid drinker and needs a free lawyer can breath a little easier,

you have the aclu.

[EJR914]

Well put... The ACLU only supports liberal's rights. It turns a blind eye to all conservative rights violations.

[ryanshaunkelly]

vets progressives independents real conservatives Left and rights of passage, black and whites of youth. Who can face the knowledge that the truth is not the truth? Obsolete Absolute America where are you now? Dont you care about your sons and daughters? Dont you know we need you now? We cant fight alone against the monster

[dreadmorayeel]

Tip of the iceberg people..tip of the iceberg.

Fact.

The Torture Programmes are Worldwide.

Fact.

It could be any of us.

Fact.

Freedom,Democracy and The Rule Of Law Bu$hco eh?

[saaheb]

Racial profiling is one of the logical ways to narrow down on the criminals. Only an idiot would think that a 82 year old woman or a 6 year old girl poses the same security threat as a 29 year old middle eastern looking man does!

I actually feel proud of Jeppesen, doing a great service to the nation.

[jeffreytrochelman]

Now pass that 6 >82 yo female insight on to TSA. They apparently don't believe you. " great service to the nation " that is sarcasm correct ?

[djFrend]

What disgusting perversions the US government is capable of. Sort em out Obama.

[Rustyshackleford08]

Obama is all for this, he is going to coninue the renditions.

[notonyourlifewillit]

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[CommanderUTube]

In the name of national security,a security apparatus could be given blanket power to do anything without accountability to society.

The danger is that what if perverts have infiltrated such an agency and start to perpetuate a program to abuse people for the sake of it.

It could happened to anyone.

In the last days of the old Roman Empire,the Praetorian Guards in Rome did just that and held the Emperor and families captive.

What happens if CIA is infiltrated? It is too horrible to...

[Rockguitarnow]

Anyone obstructing or intefering with federal lawsuit work is committing a federal offense and faces five years in federal prison. This includes any kind of harassment, the blocking or delaying of emails, interfering with internet service or computer operation, spreading slander or defamation to impede the lawsuit investigation or lawsuit work, and similar.

[ChemicalAlarm]

Quit slagging, if it's not relevant, it doesn't belong here as a comment.

[antiwar100]

Ok, I am a legal idiot, but why can't the ACLU, or the grievanced individuals sue the U.S. government? Isn't going after Jeppesen, like going after a delivery boy for the Mafia?

[ladybroadoak]

Victor256, have a look at GENEVA, and stfu.

Your kind puts the entire US military at risk of TORTURE - wake up.

[Nicki6945]

Out Govt's actions are appalling, they should be sued not the "little guy"

This lawsuit, while commendable won't change anything

[ben5017]

Our Secret Govt is nothing more than a legitimized terrorist organization that has been legitimized ... it will do nothing but breed more hate and terrorism in the future!

All members of the secret govt envoled who torture should charged for treason against the people of America!

[genoruez]

latinpride18 They sould take each one of you to the public square and flog you until you tell the truth. No need to hide and do it in secret. You will eventually tell the truth!!! Quit your lying!!!

[tinkermi]

This whole thing makes me feel ill...it's wrong. These are good people that are stolen and treated less than cockroaches. How is this allowed to happen?

[autoctonos]

read killing hope

[victor256in]

an extraordinary rendition program is necessary for the extraordinary circumstances we live in today. Hard as it may sound, the CIA needs a strong hand to deal with an enemy that is determined and suicidal. I'm sure that CIA operations saved many thousands of lives

[Aaberg123]

"an extraordinary rendition program is necessary for the extraordinary circumstances we live in today."

Ahh, just like Hitler needed the KZ camps due to the extraordinary circumstance of having Jews living in his country. He saw them as a threat to Germany.

Does the term "slippery slope" mean anything to you?

[jayrants]

GOOGLE- Charles Rust-Tierney and find out about the VA ACLU prez was into

[WakeUpNowAmerica]

jayrants, with all due respect, your comment is totally off topic. I certainly hope that you are not trying to discredit the incredibly important work that the ACLU is doing by bringing up a state affiliate employee's criminal record--deplorable as that record may be. Apples to oranges.

[ChemicalAlarm]

I've seen him do it on other ACLU vids, it's called "slagging": Just making the same disparaging complaints whether relevant or not.

[wiskawind]

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[latinpride18]

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We don't ask questions, or should we start getting really nosey and start invading the privacy of such companies? I think not! We'd loose all of our business!

[latinpride18]

I currently work for Jeppesen Dataplan. All we do is flight services/scheduling. We don't ask questions. If the ACLU is going after our company, why not the fuelers? ATC? How about our phone company that helps us contact ground handlers throughout the world? I just don't see why Jeppesen is being sued for something that we're not even aware off! Government flight, private flight, non-commercial flights?

[yzetta]

According to published reports, Jeppesen had actual knowledge of the consequences of its activities. A former Jeppesen employee informed The New Yorker magazine that, at an internal corporate meeting, a senior Jeppesen official stated, "We do all of the extraordinary rendition flights - you know, the torture flights. Let's face it, some of these flights end up that way." (Jane Mayer, The New Yorker, Oct. 30, 2006.) ACLU

[fourcell911]

CIA renditioning Gulfstream II jet aircraft # N987SA crashed on Sept. 24, 2007 after it ran out of fuel over Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula, with a cargo of 4 tons of Cocaine on board. Plane made many round-robin.Same operations using rendition planes prisoners / heroin to-from Afghanistan.

[gomey70]

Absolutely abhorrent. Anywhere there is brutality and injustice in this world there will be some corporate scum making a buck.

btw Dubya, you can keep your CIA thugs outta my country (Ireland) too, you prick.

[victor256in]

Well corporate entities exist with the purpose of makin bucks. But the CIA surely has a thankless job. They work their asses off trying to nail terrorists and all that they get in return is negative publicity.

[andocrates]

Oh god, gimme a break.

[WakeUpNowAmerica]

I agree with victor256...if anyone hasn't seen "The Corporation," you should. It talks about how corporations, as legal entities, are inherently built to make profit at any cost. And the people always, always, pay the price.

[Jonchess]

America has bombed and killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis with only a pack of lies as justification. They are the terrorists.

[1Th1617]

RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT!!!

[saintrambone]

The USA government is corrupt. The ACLU is pointless as the government tortures us, doing forced injections and torture. I was a bank examiner for the federal agency the FDIC, I was almost killed and tortured for years, to this day. A regional director was murdered and labeled suicide. Mobile Audit Club links and saintrambone videos for proof

[Annaishola]

By what principles does a nation refer to itself as civilized in theory if it resorts to barbarism in practice?

[jon2xu]

Its all money changing hands.Eygpt supports the release of palistien prisoners,why are we handing them over to eygpt.

[jtflush]

ACLU is the most anti-American group in the country. Should be the AACLU...Anti-America Crazy Looney Union.

[Zimph405]

You say that like loving america is a good hting

[kewltony]

hypocrite

[Phillipa1]

"Ay, but I fear you speak upon the rack

Where men enforced do speak anything!"

Quoted from the film "Rendition" (in turn, from Shakespeare). The ACLU is doing to best it can, damnit! Rendition is surely an abomination...

[grymking]

Swedish security police, thank god my tax money actually makes a difference!

Gogo SÄPO!

[sparklebtt]

BLINDFOLDED????? If they hate others this much, how much do they hate American dissenters???

[robertC61]

I am glad some people are concerned about habeus corpus in the US. This is serious stuff. If not stopped we will drift into Fascism. The only thing these corporations understand is the bottom line. Go after them ACLU.

[lestliness]

More than some... many are concernd, still we need more...

[czedzed]

This is silly. Jeppesen provides mapping services for pilots. Maps and charts like roadmaps you would use to drive your car but for flying aircraft. If someone used a roadmap made by Rand McNally to find your house to commit a felony would you sue Rand McNally?

They make maps, people. ALCU is not telling you the entire story and is playing on your emotions. ALCU should be ashamed, or they are clueless.

[vrede420]

czedzed: Liar. According to the Council of Europe, Jeppesen (a Boeing subsisiary) intentionally submitted "dummy flights" to various aviation authorities in order to conceal the true flight paths of the rendition planes.

If Rand McNally knowingly abetted the violation of domestic and international law, you bet I'd sue them.

[czedzed]

vrede420: Two things can be true at the same time. Pilots and flight departments, not Jeppesen, file multiple flight plans for multiple destinations and then use the flight plan for the selected destination when the ultimate destination is unknown but there are several options. Not sure what in my post made you want to call me a liar but if it makes your world a better place...

[vrede420]

czedzed: Obviously, I was referring to your claim that Jeppesen is as innocent as Rand McNally. Were you an OJ juror?

[massspectrician]

Jeppesen provided auxiliary services with knowledge of acts these services supported. I, for one, have a problem with people profiting (with my tax dollars) from such deplorable acts aimed at marginalizing due process of law conventions. Legally, I think the ACLU will need to show that Jeppesen knew what the CIA was doing to be compromised.

[SadForAmerica]

I wonder why the ACLU is not suing the American GovernmenT? Oh, I guess they tried, but were not successful. This is really grabbing at straws. Can't you people see that the ACLU is pulling at your heart strings? I would imagine that being humiliated is not quite as bad as having your head cut off. What is the ACLU doing about that?

[snellbarker]

Thank you ACLU! The torture programs run to the heart of what our democracy should NOT be about! US corporations should not be allowed to profit from the savage brutalization of innocent people. All of the participants need to be held accountable and these Nazi-like practices stopped.

[KobyBrandt]

The CIA has got to go or to be seriously diminished in its covert capabilities.

Vote Ron Paul for President in the PRIMARIES in November. A vote for Ron is a vote for open (or at least much more open) government. You must register to be a Republican to vote for him in the primaries. You can always change your party affiliation back afterwards. If you're an advocate of covert torture and kidnapping, and you truly think it's OK, then vote for someone else.

[libertarian2007]

I totally agree. I will be voting for Ron Paul! We need to save our freedom and liberty!

[vivavoss]

What a bunch of useful idiots. Besides, are you not taking away resources from defending MAMBLA ?

[rotorooster3]

God Bless the USA and US ALL!

[marksalot101]

what do you expect from the country that brought you SLAVERY the KKK and the genocide of over 6 million people world wide through war mongering, not including the 1 million plus indigenous Americans who exterminate like the wild buffaloes of the great plains! all brought to you by The Secret satanic shadow government of the USA!

[aggiearg]

Excellent. Thank you. I hope that the ACLU does more of these stories because you do not get this kind of reporting on TV.

[informedPress]

Sad,

The ACLU does stand for American Civil Liberties Union, but the suit is being brought on behalf of foreign nationals under a US Law known as the Alien Torte Statute. What purpose can your criticism serve?

[offramp23]

But this is just "swatting flies", not a big deal.

[SadForAmerica]

And, the ACLU is filing this lawsuit on behalf of which AMERICAN citizen? And, which country did this take place? And, what does acronym ACLU stand for?

[kraskp]

It stands for American Civil Liberties Union, hence a Civil Liberties Union based in America. This is why it is not named The Civil Liberties of Americans Union.

[deaftone311]

welcome to the fascist states of american