Same! Same! Same! [Toaplan, 1989] - From The Sun To Me

[PepeLogu]

Great tune! Must be by the same! guy who did the music to Hellfire, also great music.

[SkyknightMu]

@PepeLogu Not quite. Hellfire was composed by Uemura Tatsuya, Fire Shark by Yuge Masanori.

[MysticArksRevenge]

@SkyknightMu The names are right, but they are the other way around-

Tatsuya Uemura and Masanori Yuge.

[SkyknightMu]

@MysticArksRevenge ...That was just using Japanese syntax, considering the names themselves are Japanese (the Japanese syntax places the family name, THEN the given name).

[MysticArksRevenge]

@SkyknightMu So to them it is last name, then the first name?

[SkyknightMu]

@MysticArksRevenge Well, last and first by our usual ordering. It's the same for Chinese, Korean, and Vietnamese; it's the reason why I no longer use "first name" and "last name", but instead "given name" and "family name".

[MysticArksRevenge]

@SkyknightMu I see. Seems kinda confusing, but I have no problem with it.

[Pheliopolis]

this is epic! I am searching for the original soundtrack for 15 years now!

[Atomicskull]

Toaplan used the same OPL2 chip in their arcade boards that was used in the Adlib and Soundblaster PC sound cards. And yet they managed to get much better sound out of it than PC games ever did.

[MysticArksRevenge]

@Atomicskull That chip was the YM3812.

[Atomicskull]

@MysticArksRevenge 3812 and OPL2 are the same thing. Yamaha's FM sound chip families had a 3 letter label to identify them, the 2151 and it's relatives were known as OPM for example. Some earlier SNK games like Ikari Warriors used the 3526 aka OPL. The main difference between OPL and OPL2 is that the OPL could only use sine waves as operators and did not have additional waveforms.

[MysticArksRevenge]

@Atomicskull I know. I just wanted to know if you knew if it was a Yamaha YM-3812 chip. OPM and OPL? What does that mean? All I know is that the YM-3812 is an FM sound chip.

I guess the reason WHY the music for PC games that used the YM-3812 is terrible is because most of the Non-Japanese software companies made games for the PCs and they did not know how to work or use the chip properly like what SNK did. If only I knew how make music on that chip using SNK's programmed instruments.

[Atomicskull]

@MysticArksRevenge

OPL = FM Operator Type L (the 3526 and it's decedents such as the 3812)

OPM= FM Operator Type M (the ym2151 and it's descendants) They are just three letter labels for Yamaha's different families of FM sound chips.

[MysticArksRevenge]

@Atomicskull Oh, OK. I didn't know there were different variations of FM chips.

[MysticArksRevenge]

@Atomicskull I see. So you have to have good programming as well as music skills if you want to make your own music onto one of those chips. 

[Atomicskull]

@MysticArksRevenge Most synthesizers call instrument sounds "programs". Programing a synth means creating a new sound on it, it's interchangeable with "editing". It doesn't mean programming in the same sense aswriting a computer program.

[MysticArksRevenge]

@Atomicskull I see. 

[MysticArksRevenge]

@Atomicskull I agree. I love TOAPLAN's sound driver that they programmed on the YM3812, as well as the sound driver that SNK used on these games with that chip:

Ikari 3: The Rescue

POW: Prisoners of War

Prehistoric Island

SAR: Search and Rescue