DRM on consoles isn't there to stop piracy but to kill the used game market. Game companies hate the fact that a lot of the console gamers get their games used. They would much rather have everyone buy a brand new copy of the game.
That's YET another reason to hate consoles :D They are waaay behind current PCs now, have more limitations, if you want to program or work you have to buy PC anyway... And despite the fact that my motto is "Do what you want, couse a pirate is free" (yep Lazy Town song heh) but still during Steam sales I buy DOZENS of games... (damn their marketing, I am on Economics and yet I fail to resist...) All "pseudo-free" games also tend to funnel cash out of my credit card :) And... epic games either :P
Already subbed a long time ago,markee you need people to visit your site before people can see the offer,do a review on a popular game like star wars online,or do you need permission or something?.
PC games. When you buy them, the physical version but it ends up tied to you're steam account. Because of this, you can't resell what you bought. Is there a way to get around this? And if not, I'm surprised people have not made a fuss about this, even if it puts more work on steam's desk, they opted for it.
markeedragon if you dont know already, i think youd be somewhat interested in Valve software's way of defeating piracy. their philosophy is people wont pirate as much if you give the customer more. they have done that with steam, they provided an extra service, one that people actually like. its basically an xbox live for the computer. their steam sales for games going for %75 off doesn't hurt either ;) only downside is steam messes up sometimes
ive been saying this for years. i have dont lots of pirating games due to want to test it then if i like it i buy it or just do it because too poor at the time. so why dont they encrypt the cd and then if anyone tried to undo that it frys everything on the computer. simple easy, and stops/threatens most of the people from pirating the games =D.
@Mitsukakex games have demos... download that and don't pirate it... pretty sure that's what you where saying is that you pirate. hard to tell with the horrible grammar in your comment.
@Metallocity unfortunately not all games have demos and some games have demos that arent long enough to see how the game will actually play. just putting that out there
@Metallocity it is an excuse just not a good one and its not quite like shop lifting, the store is affected by losing its copy of the game which doesnt really affect the publisher and developer as the store still had to pay for the game and has to pay for a replacement of a physical copy whereas digital copy only cost bandwidth which isnt stolen by the pirates since pirates use peer to peer with each other. id take a guess that releasing a good demo would be more effective than drm
@Metallocity if your intentions are good being a pirate wont have any real significant impact on the industry. company's in reality cant lose money on you if you never intended on purchasing the game in the first place. thats not to say there arent icky pirates out there that all they do is just pirate games practically all day and never intend on paying for any of them ever. because theres plenty of those and thats unfortunate
@gtochad lol your fucking dumb dude, go listen to totalbiscuits mail box videos. he constantly talks about why pirating is bad for the industry. he has more information to share on the topic than markedragon. and so what your saying is. if my intentions are good i should rob a bank for millions? it won't have any negitive impact on the bank? no. thats just dumb fucking logic.
@Metallocity "if your intentions are good being a pirate wont have any real significant impact on the industry" - He was probably talking about pirates who download games, test them and then buy the ones they like. Your metaphor was just silly.
@Eaglesight silly? no it was not, its exactly the same thing. if he wants to see what a game is like, there is youtube, you won't get the exact impressions you would from physically playing the game yourself. but you will still get a good impression about the game. and your not being a dick and stealing a game.
@Eaglesight also, maybe something a little less harsh than "robbing a bank" let's take physically shop lifting the actual copy of said game from a store. so what your saying is. if he wants to shop lift the game from the store. and he gets caught be the security guard. and he tells him. "i wanted to see if i enjoyed the game before paying for it" that's alright? no it's not. the logic behind his thinking is just flawed.
@Metallocity again i understand why pirating is bad for the industry but again its all about intent. since the digital copy of the game is just a license, the only way they would be losing money is if the person pirating would have payed for the game if they didnt have access to it for free via pirating. theres no actual "real" cost to pirating games, just a loss of the sale.
@gtochad no... no it's not about that at all, your logic is so flawed. if every gamer thinks exactly like you (which there are a lot who do) it will be enough to hurt the industry. digital or not publishers and developers lose money to pirating. it's reasons why stuff such as sopa is trying to be forced down on us. just because there is no physcial copy of the game doesn't mean their losing out on money. your blinded by your so called "good intentions"
@gtochad something i also just thought of to ad to my last statement. loss of sale = no sequals or advancements to that game. they see a decline in sales. (pirates or no interests in games or whatever other reasons) that means no incentive on creating sequals to the previous ip. so yes, a "loss of sale" hurts them weather you realise it or not. i'v payed for a few bad games myself in the past. i'm not going to bew a little dick head and pirate because of it though.
@Metallocity where as with a bank or stealing from the store those actually have costs because money isnt a license its a Representative of real physical items. and the physical copy of the game is already payed by the store and the store has to pay to replace the game so that someone else may buy it. with digital nothing needs to be replaced since its just a license.
@Metallocity so since nothing needs to be replaced it comes down to would the person buy the game if the means for piracy didnt exist? id like to break this up in to three categories from evil pirates, to forgivable pirates, to non pirates. evil pirate would be willing to buy the game if the means didnt exist to steal, forgivable pirate is someone who would have played the demo if their had been one (or had there been a longer demo) and non pirate is a non pirate
@gtochad god your so fucking ignorant. like i said. blinded by your so called "good intent" and again. go look up totalbiscuit. watch his mailbox videos. he frequently talks about pirating games. you will be enlightened and hopefully less ignorant about the subject.
@Metallocity forgivable pirate is one whos intent is good and only destruction towards the industry is the ability to make a more informed decision that a demo otherwise would (and informed decisions do obviously affect sales) and they also give game company unfortunately more reason to implement drm (which so far hasnt worked) because game companys only read how many times their game has been downloaded on torrent sites and dont know who would have bought the game or not
@gtochad last reply to this subject. your so ignorant it's unbelievable. go look up totalbiscuit. watch his mailbox videos. he frequently talks about pirating games. you will be enlightened and hopefully less ignorant about the subject.
@Metallocity loss of sales may indeed hurt the devs but it wouldnt hurt the devs more than a decently length demo showing how the game would play (or run on the users computer for that mater, and why buy a game that may not run on your pc?) only the evil pirates have real effect on sales. and even some of them do buy the game in the end. as runic games put it, its a great marketing tool and great way to grow an audience. piracy is wrong in my book but its blown out of proportion
@Metallocity some developer actually dont mind piracy google search runic games piracy and click the first link
and google steam piracy as well and click the first link in that too to see examples of companys who dont find piracy an issue (theirs more companys to) quite a few companys do use piracy as a scapegoat sometimes to blame for bad sales (like crytek)
@gtochad The only thing you forgot to mention is that region locks causes people to either buy pirated games or downloading pirated games. The problem with people is that piracy thinks it'll hurt the industry, but what they fail to realize is if piracy doesn't exist, the real question is does it help alot of sales? They don't understand about DRMs and Region locks, which makes customers to think about not buying it.
@Metallocity lol yea my grammar sucks. but was saying that i pirate stuff when im interested in the game for different reasons.knowing alot of other people do this to for the same reason nearly they should upload something to fry the system if opened causing alot of people to back away from pirating if they really want to protect there games. real life if you want to steal something there are risk and chances, should the risk is loosing your system if you want to play a game.
I am pretty sure the reason for DRM on console is to just maximize profits, since you can't borrow the game from a friend or buy it used without having to shell out an extra 10-20 bucks on an "online pass" to play online. I may be wrong, but from what I can tell piracy has very little to do with it.
DRM is 100% useless. It only punishes the actual customers, companies SERIOUSLY under-estimate how good crackers are. No matter how good your DRM is it will ALWAYS be cracked, no questions. All it is is a waste of money that punishes the people doing the right thing. Ubisoft are massive idiots in this department, I'd recommend not buying any of their games.
you can lock it to the DVD no need for a code Bungie used to do this all the time and you could not play the game unless you had that DVD you could spawn without the code and the two of you could play but the code will only allow 4 players before you would need another disk with a Code... you would have to keep buying expensive rippers to unlock this type of game encryption
@stealthstyle1 You don't need to pay for LoL to have fun. The only things you cannot buy with IP (game gold) are skins and EXP/IP Boosts. Skins are purely cosmetic, and I never cared for the EXP/IP Boosts.
I've spent money on LoL, but only on skins. I used IP to buy all my Champs/Runes/Rune Pages.
Also, you don't need to unlock every Champ to have fun / be competitive at avg ELO. Free Champs are rotated every week as well.
I think they should add more options in games like if the current game station you are using is the only one in the house or you would like to register a second console. I still think choosing an IP address registration with the game would work the best DRM
DRM on consoles isn't there to stop piracy but to kill the used game market. Game companies hate the fact that a lot of the console gamers get their games used. They would much rather have everyone buy a brand new copy of the game.
MrX600531 1 month ago
i Thumb up your videos everytime :D evne if i never see these videos enough early to get any of the codes ;P
epicwarding 1 month ago
Markee, stories from your in game adventures, and stories about your business are the most interesting.
KamilWow 1 month ago
That's YET another reason to hate consoles :D They are waaay behind current PCs now, have more limitations, if you want to program or work you have to buy PC anyway... And despite the fact that my motto is "Do what you want, couse a pirate is free" (yep Lazy Town song heh) but still during Steam sales I buy DOZENS of games... (damn their marketing, I am on Economics and yet I fail to resist...) All "pseudo-free" games also tend to funnel cash out of my credit card :) And... epic games either :P
TheCrusaderBin 1 month ago
Already subbed a long time ago,markee you need people to visit your site before people can see the offer,do a review on a popular game like star wars online,or do you need permission or something?.
Whatever4690 1 month ago
I thought that those codes were to crack down on used sales...
Roflstompzorz 1 month ago
i can't do it. i can't watch any more of this shit just for the slim chance i might get some free eve time. unsubscribing in 3... 2.... 1...
discord2000 1 month ago
change your shirt between videos if you are going to do a lot in one day.. its kind of bugging me
bigspook999 1 month ago
I have a question for you, or anyone on here.
PC games. When you buy them, the physical version but it ends up tied to you're steam account. Because of this, you can't resell what you bought. Is there a way to get around this? And if not, I'm surprised people have not made a fuss about this, even if it puts more work on steam's desk, they opted for it.
eBritishIdentity 1 month ago
@eBritishIdentity Bro, Steam games are so fucking cheap anyways
AdmiralAnon 1 month ago
@AdmiralAnon I like having the hard copy.
eBritishIdentity 1 month ago
markeedragon if you dont know already, i think youd be somewhat interested in Valve software's way of defeating piracy. their philosophy is people wont pirate as much if you give the customer more. they have done that with steam, they provided an extra service, one that people actually like. its basically an xbox live for the computer. their steam sales for games going for %75 off doesn't hurt either ;) only downside is steam messes up sometimes
gtochad 1 month ago
This has been flagged as spam show
And pirating console games is as simple as PC ones nowdays.
jope12 1 month ago
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jope12 1 month ago
The sad thing with DRM is that it only effects paying customers, leaving pirates still playing the game for free.
jope12 1 month ago
Want EVE Codes :(
EVE wants love too!
Triokugan 1 month ago
i love brendas accent
ReFLeXSNiPE 1 month ago
ive been saying this for years. i have dont lots of pirating games due to want to test it then if i like it i buy it or just do it because too poor at the time. so why dont they encrypt the cd and then if anyone tried to undo that it frys everything on the computer. simple easy, and stops/threatens most of the people from pirating the games =D.
Mitsukakex 1 month ago
@Mitsukakex games have demos... download that and don't pirate it... pretty sure that's what you where saying is that you pirate. hard to tell with the horrible grammar in your comment.
Metallocity 1 month ago
@Metallocity unfortunately not all games have demos and some games have demos that arent long enough to see how the game will actually play. just putting that out there
gtochad 1 month ago
@gtochad demo or not, that's no excuse to pirate a game. you may as well go shop lift it. that's practically what your doing .
Metallocity 1 month ago
@Metallocity it is an excuse just not a good one and its not quite like shop lifting, the store is affected by losing its copy of the game which doesnt really affect the publisher and developer as the store still had to pay for the game and has to pay for a replacement of a physical copy whereas digital copy only cost bandwidth which isnt stolen by the pirates since pirates use peer to peer with each other. id take a guess that releasing a good demo would be more effective than drm
gtochad 1 month ago
@Metallocity if your intentions are good being a pirate wont have any real significant impact on the industry. company's in reality cant lose money on you if you never intended on purchasing the game in the first place. thats not to say there arent icky pirates out there that all they do is just pirate games practically all day and never intend on paying for any of them ever. because theres plenty of those and thats unfortunate
gtochad 1 month ago
@gtochad lol your fucking dumb dude, go listen to totalbiscuits mail box videos. he constantly talks about why pirating is bad for the industry. he has more information to share on the topic than markedragon. and so what your saying is. if my intentions are good i should rob a bank for millions? it won't have any negitive impact on the bank? no. thats just dumb fucking logic.
Metallocity 1 month ago
@Metallocity "if your intentions are good being a pirate wont have any real significant impact on the industry" - He was probably talking about pirates who download games, test them and then buy the ones they like. Your metaphor was just silly.
Eaglesight 1 month ago
@Eaglesight silly? no it was not, its exactly the same thing. if he wants to see what a game is like, there is youtube, you won't get the exact impressions you would from physically playing the game yourself. but you will still get a good impression about the game. and your not being a dick and stealing a game.
Metallocity 1 month ago
@Eaglesight also, maybe something a little less harsh than "robbing a bank" let's take physically shop lifting the actual copy of said game from a store. so what your saying is. if he wants to shop lift the game from the store. and he gets caught be the security guard. and he tells him. "i wanted to see if i enjoyed the game before paying for it" that's alright? no it's not. the logic behind his thinking is just flawed.
Metallocity 1 month ago
@Metallocity again i understand why pirating is bad for the industry but again its all about intent. since the digital copy of the game is just a license, the only way they would be losing money is if the person pirating would have payed for the game if they didnt have access to it for free via pirating. theres no actual "real" cost to pirating games, just a loss of the sale.
gtochad 1 month ago
@gtochad no... no it's not about that at all, your logic is so flawed. if every gamer thinks exactly like you (which there are a lot who do) it will be enough to hurt the industry. digital or not publishers and developers lose money to pirating. it's reasons why stuff such as sopa is trying to be forced down on us. just because there is no physcial copy of the game doesn't mean their losing out on money. your blinded by your so called "good intentions"
Metallocity 1 month ago
@gtochad something i also just thought of to ad to my last statement. loss of sale = no sequals or advancements to that game. they see a decline in sales. (pirates or no interests in games or whatever other reasons) that means no incentive on creating sequals to the previous ip. so yes, a "loss of sale" hurts them weather you realise it or not. i'v payed for a few bad games myself in the past. i'm not going to bew a little dick head and pirate because of it though.
Metallocity 1 month ago
@Metallocity where as with a bank or stealing from the store those actually have costs because money isnt a license its a Representative of real physical items. and the physical copy of the game is already payed by the store and the store has to pay to replace the game so that someone else may buy it. with digital nothing needs to be replaced since its just a license.
gtochad 1 month ago
@Metallocity so since nothing needs to be replaced it comes down to would the person buy the game if the means for piracy didnt exist? id like to break this up in to three categories from evil pirates, to forgivable pirates, to non pirates. evil pirate would be willing to buy the game if the means didnt exist to steal, forgivable pirate is someone who would have played the demo if their had been one (or had there been a longer demo) and non pirate is a non pirate
gtochad 1 month ago
@gtochad god your so fucking ignorant. like i said. blinded by your so called "good intent" and again. go look up totalbiscuit. watch his mailbox videos. he frequently talks about pirating games. you will be enlightened and hopefully less ignorant about the subject.
Metallocity 1 month ago
@Metallocity forgivable pirate is one whos intent is good and only destruction towards the industry is the ability to make a more informed decision that a demo otherwise would (and informed decisions do obviously affect sales) and they also give game company unfortunately more reason to implement drm (which so far hasnt worked) because game companys only read how many times their game has been downloaded on torrent sites and dont know who would have bought the game or not
gtochad 1 month ago
@gtochad last reply to this subject. your so ignorant it's unbelievable. go look up totalbiscuit. watch his mailbox videos. he frequently talks about pirating games. you will be enlightened and hopefully less ignorant about the subject.
Metallocity 1 month ago
@Metallocity loss of sales may indeed hurt the devs but it wouldnt hurt the devs more than a decently length demo showing how the game would play (or run on the users computer for that mater, and why buy a game that may not run on your pc?) only the evil pirates have real effect on sales. and even some of them do buy the game in the end. as runic games put it, its a great marketing tool and great way to grow an audience. piracy is wrong in my book but its blown out of proportion
gtochad 1 month ago
@Metallocity some developer actually dont mind piracy google search runic games piracy and click the first link
and google steam piracy as well and click the first link in that too to see examples of companys who dont find piracy an issue (theirs more companys to) quite a few companys do use piracy as a scapegoat sometimes to blame for bad sales (like crytek)
gtochad 1 month ago
@gtochad The only thing you forgot to mention is that region locks causes people to either buy pirated games or downloading pirated games. The problem with people is that piracy thinks it'll hurt the industry, but what they fail to realize is if piracy doesn't exist, the real question is does it help alot of sales? They don't understand about DRMs and Region locks, which makes customers to think about not buying it.
unrealriot 3 weeks ago
@Metallocity lol yea my grammar sucks. but was saying that i pirate stuff when im interested in the game for different reasons.knowing alot of other people do this to for the same reason nearly they should upload something to fry the system if opened causing alot of people to back away from pirating if they really want to protect there games. real life if you want to steal something there are risk and chances, should the risk is loosing your system if you want to play a game.
Mitsukakex 1 month ago
do another wow
SimplyAstonished 1 month ago
/watch?v=up863eQKGUI
DONT COPY THAT FLOPPY
merind2400 1 month ago
Like the vids a lot.
TheJ2342 1 month ago
I am pretty sure the reason for DRM on console is to just maximize profits, since you can't borrow the game from a friend or buy it used without having to shell out an extra 10-20 bucks on an "online pass" to play online. I may be wrong, but from what I can tell piracy has very little to do with it.
nerdlova 1 month ago
@nerdlova Pretty sure it also makes buying used an absolute bitch.
12Metaman 1 month ago
Videos need to be longer.
5 mins a day or so is too much of a cocktease. Need 20 min + videos.
YawnGod 1 month ago
Indeed, DRM is pointless. There will always be a way to pirate games, not matter how complex they make it.
TheIrredeemable 1 month ago
The only way to play a burned game on a console is to mod to. A modded console will ignore DRM.
Coolguyuno1 1 month ago
Same Shirt Again :P. jkjk lol
mtrombley23 1 month ago
Eve codes!
We needs them!
fosterssssss 1 month ago
DRM is 100% useless. It only punishes the actual customers, companies SERIOUSLY under-estimate how good crackers are. No matter how good your DRM is it will ALWAYS be cracked, no questions. All it is is a waste of money that punishes the people doing the right thing. Ubisoft are massive idiots in this department, I'd recommend not buying any of their games.
Ub3rSk1llz 1 month ago
you can lock it to the DVD no need for a code Bungie used to do this all the time and you could not play the game unless you had that DVD you could spawn without the code and the two of you could play but the code will only allow 4 players before you would need another disk with a Code... you would have to keep buying expensive rippers to unlock this type of game encryption
JustinJJHCS1 1 month ago
When you will give away sword i want it so much!!!
jomaks10000 1 month ago
i had no idea that you were giving a sword away LOL , >.> i guess i should watch your vids when you start giving code away......
ANBUspecialBlackops 1 month ago
you should need to change your shirt sometime
bolhavip 1 month ago
hehe you are awesome c:
MyQwerty678 1 month ago
Markee
How do you feel about league of legends payment system compared to the payment system like team fortress 2?
Both games are perfectly playable without spending money
But LoL Doesn't really make it fun to play without spending money
TF2 on the other hand is fun no mather how you play it
I use both systems and i spend money to support
Although i don't like to pay to have fun like in LoL
stealthstyle1 1 month ago
@stealthstyle1 You don't need to pay for LoL to have fun. The only things you cannot buy with IP (game gold) are skins and EXP/IP Boosts. Skins are purely cosmetic, and I never cared for the EXP/IP Boosts.
I've spent money on LoL, but only on skins. I used IP to buy all my Champs/Runes/Rune Pages.
Also, you don't need to unlock every Champ to have fun / be competitive at avg ELO. Free Champs are rotated every week as well.
IMO, LoL's cash shop is well done.
noivil 1 month ago
LoL! that was a funny start to the video :P
xwodinox 1 month ago
Are you in the jungle bro?
neomysterio 1 month ago
I think they should add more options in games like if the current game station you are using is the only one in the house or you would like to register a second console. I still think choosing an IP address registration with the game would work the best DRM
DemonMasaker 1 month ago
o well i dont no how to use it
MrCaptainInternet 1 month ago
I got the code.
deqa 1 month ago 24
@deqa you are a epic lol
DKwrath 1 month ago
@deqa What code, I've seen these comments in previous few videos, don't understand what code...
MrLudijak 1 month ago
@deqa again...... you need to share
barjunkie21 1 month ago
@deqa lol have fun runecrafting
coolness536 1 month ago
Do some eve time codes ;p Love the Q&A and story's!
despair6 1 month ago 18
@despair6 yeah i was e-mailed promising eve codes, havent seen one yet:(
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