I don't get why people think Tom Cruise is a tool. He's fucking cool in this video.
I completely agree with him and at the end he says "I'm passionate about learning and about life" and he says it with this sort of "who the fuck isn't passionate about these things" tone.
thats the standpoint of psychiatry. when a person ends up in psychiatry, his character becomes a sickness, a symptone that needs to be pacified, the rethoric is that characteritics of a person is due to the (genetic) brain chemical balance. Thats what people who say that there is no (genetic) chemical balance is talking about.
serving the system and to maintain it's status-quo, experts who were only experts because they comply by following the doctrine, and if they dont, they wouldnt have attained their expert diploma in the first place.I profundly agree with Satz who talked about a therapeutical society.
Psychiatry resembles a religion far more than Sciencetology does. I think psychiatry is the ultimate religion, the highest point of a grotesque climax that any religion could ever reach. There is not only financial interests behind it, but political interest too. It's task lies in magicly tranforming social problems into medical issues, whereas the definition of reality is no longer open to discussion but becomes under patent of a innercirlcle of so-called experts controlled by and
The main topic when confronting psychiatry should be schizofrenia, which is a hat created to put on the heads of people who are in conflict with the society, to pacify them as danger elements to the system before they can pose any danger to the System. A way to contain (young) people who had been through too much, who have seen too much contracdictions and conflicts in this hypocrite society to believe in it's lies any longer. A way to contain millions of potential revolutionaries if you like.
in the battle Cruise vs Psychiatry, Cruise with his tiny $300 millions of asset is not even anywhere near to be the Goliath here, yet people
buy the spin of this rich powerfull weirdo (probably in the closet too) with no diploma controlling the media attacking the holy medical science crap. Even Sciencetology Church is at most just a rebel compares to what it is fighting against (again i havent yet made up my mind on its true motives and capability and as a result, its trustworthness) .
in the battle Cruise vs Psychiatry, Cruise with his tiny $300 millions of asset is not even anywhere near to be the Goliath here, yet people
buy the spin of this rich powerfull weirdo (probably in the closet too) with no diploma controlling the media attacking the holy medical science crap. Even Sciencetology Church is at most just a rebel compares to what it is fighting against (again i havent yet made up my mind on its true motives and capability and as a result, its trustworthness).
Instead the topic had been depression, which is something that people perversly find cool and deep(like most mental diseases, partly due to the media highing it up), something to admire, something to ad more depth to their shallow life. When one (Cruise) says "dont just take chemicals to enhance your dopamine production", idiots everywhere stood up and defend the "freedom" of taking psychotics. Now could it get more absurd than that?
When you are a young person living at home who have difficult relations with your parents and may they decide to unleash psychiatry on you, there is almost no way you could get out of that, and no judge who would believe your side of the story. Yet there have been and still are tens of millions of people, kids who end up in psychiatry like that and probably for the rest of their lifes living in fear or numbness.
I think he has been clumbsy by talking about it without thinking it through, perhaps(most likely) his motivations are wrong, pushing more people who knew nothing and still do not care to know anything about the ways of psychiatry into defending it. The focus point should be forced admissions and forced drug for the rest of a persons life, which needs really little as justification in todays society.
I agree with Tom cruise ON THIS TOPIC ONLY. There are actually videos & reports by psychologists & psychiatrists who call this profession 'fraud'. Do a search & you'll see.
Ok, I have no respect for any celebrity professing to be an expert on anything. They're allowed to have valid opinions, but they are a recognisable face, they arent experts. That said, Tom is actually making an important statement. His logic is much more clear than the reporters. I don't like him but he's got a point. The reporters logic is, i've seen people get better, so it must work. Thats the same logic as 'Timmy was loud, now he's quiet, so he's better' or 'I prayed for rain, and it came'.
I would love to support scientologys beliefs against psychiatry without actually converting to this religon. Nothing against this religon or any religon for that matter I have an open mind. But I will give this religon BIG KUDOS for being against ALL drugs and antipsychiatry!
I also love how scientology is against drugs and psychiatric abuse. I am not a scientologist myself. I think Tom Cruise, Kelly Preston, John Trovolta should also specify that if you are on medication for depression, "bipolar", anxiety, etc you should not stop cold turkey. There is stuff out there to help you along if you see that these drugs are messing you up. There are substances of opiates, heroin and coccaine and the withdrawal is similar where you can potentially die if not done properly.
I am not a scientologist. I am walking, living proof that psychiatry is fake and evil. At the age of 15 I was put on 14 different psychotropic medications. Standing 5'2 115lbs-180lbs. Couldn't succeed in school, college or work. Was sheltered, lost so many friends. I was so called "bipolar" just because I was going through puberty. I am now 24 yrs of age and drug free 100% since october and doing great. Living my life, working and able to function like a normal 24 yr old woman. IT'S ALL BS
Someones having a seizure, A scientologist will continue to deny that they require medication. That's as simple as it is. You're cultists and you're dangerous.
Clearly the person who uploaded this video wants to push the same mind-numbing agenda that Tom Cruise has bought into. I can't even take this guy seriously knowing that he's a Scientologist. Tom do you know the history of Scientology? And just "reading" about the history of psychiatry is not enough. I'm more than positive that Tom only reads the 'history' books that prescribe with his beliefs and non-beliefs. Bye Tom! And bye to the person who uploaded this with the wacky lines in the summary.
@ToySpoilers reading the 'history' books that prescribe with his beliefs and non-beliefs. sounds more like yourself. if you watch tv at all the stfu about mind-numbing agenda, since you're in it yourself.
Geez..Stop telling ppl what they know & what they dont know.How rude.You scientlogists are supposed to be nice at ALL times.It's the 10 million dollar RULE & you pd for it,so start practiceing it!
Do you know the ORGS?. Do you know about L.Ron.Hubbard, the charlatan and carnival huckster criminal who "invented" Scientology so he could make lots of money. Do you know about Evil Lord Xenu? Do you know how the Earth was populated Millions of years ago by extraterrestrials? Tom knows all these things and more. You too can learn all you need to know about Scientology after you tell the Scientologists your net worth so they know how much to charge you for this "religion". TOM, take a valium!
it isnt necessary to believe that the universe is 14 trillions years old and that we are receptacles to the eons' ancient souls to understand that psychiatry is a drug business, with little or no real scientific basis. I mean, the guy makes a point, yeah, but that doens't make him less berserk!
tom cruise is wrong. i have anziety and depression for all my life. dont tell me what i need tom. everything u said was out of order cruise...i would be dead if not for xanax and seroquel.....and i even went to scientology...they taught me how 2 lie
@MrJuancarlosferrero: Why are you so aggressively defending Tom? And why misread hasbeen's comment? She/He does not tell "everybody" what they need to do, she/he gives just a personal account which shows that Tom's views don't work for her/him, leading to the conclusion that they don't work for everybody. He/She tells only Tom what he needs to do, to shut up. Freedom of speech, ok? You should cool down a bit, many ways lead to Rome, not only one!
@Mejuz Freedom of speech and telling what Cruise NEED to do, which is to shut up. yeah that sounds logic. you should learn to read and think first before learning to type. You're the one so sincerely calling him Tom, sounds like "TOM" is a much more familiar person to you than he is to me. Why is that? perhaps because ypu couldnt stay away from the television? afraid that you else would have free time to actually start thinking on your own? you're just here cos a celebrity
@MrJuancarlosferrero: You're mixing it up here. It is everybody's right to say Tom needs to shut up. It may not be PC or polite. But it is only logic that, as much as you have the right to say you think he's right, that someone else might use the same freedom/right to say they think he better shut up. Your projections are really funny, man. You have no clue who I am, yet you waste your time characterizing a fantasized image of me, as if you knew me. Stay with the topic and stop attacking people.
@Mejuz i know very well how your kind of people are like, you talk about the freedom speech when it suits you, and tell anybody else to shut up. stop twisting things around.
@Mejuz said something controversial. Why is a celebrity that powerfull and intimidating to people like you? Who cares more here about tom cruise? you obviously. More ways lead to ROME? are you fucking kidding me? you might want to tell the psychiatrists that, see what you'll get for answer. Cruise has no control over people and psychiatry has. it has the power to force people to be confined and drugged for lifetimes, criminals have more rights than a person who accidentally become a patient.
@Mejuz It's funny that amature freedom fighters always know to pick the weaker enemy to show off your courage, how to pick the easier fight. learn first to see the difference between David and Goliath, whos the rebel here and who's in control.
@MrJuancarlosferrero: Well, I was quite sincere to you, writing about the tragic story of my mum to make the point that sometimes you cannot just blame it all on psychiatry (which in her case helped) and that not taking any drugs does not necessarily lead to a healthier outcome. You did not even partly respond. If you are just here to spit out your hatred and prejudged theories, fine! But I will use my time and energy on others, you are def. a waste of both. I repeat: You NEED to cool down!! Bye
@Mejuz I doubt if you know the meaning of sincerity. you think that you had it difficult or you mother? you should've taken some haloperidol of zyprexa yourself to understand why she would prefer alcohol to those. and to understand what the far reaching consequenses are of the (often) permenant side-effects. SHE gone thru that, NOT YOU. The right way, if there is any, to stop the anti-psychotics is at tops 5% decrease of the dosis every week. (2mg a day to 1,9 mg a day)
@Mejuz and it could take a year or more to be completely drug free, and im not even talking about the rebuilding process, cos what is taken away and damaged by the anti-psychotics have to be replaced by new experiences, new chemicals. The psychiatrist usually just let patients cut half of the dosis, and then cut half again. the dopamine overdose left over is gonna keep messing with their heads. Whenever people become messed up,
@Mejuz it is at first a social problem, cause and consequenses, childhood issues, living conditions, body bio-chemicals, accumulated effects. Nobody is blaming it ALL on psychiatry, people blame psychiatry for being a tool to further damage the subjects and prevent people with dealing wiht the real issue which at itself is hard enough. Alcohol is also a way to further worthen the problem since nobody without any personal issue ever get addicted to it.
@Mejuz So instead of looking at their problems we tag them as alcoholics, yeah that makes sense. alcohol use should be fought against and theres is nothing funny about that. I dont get your sarcasm in that unfortunately. Psychiatry is been called in to cut thru the chain of cause and consequenses. saying it's no the society's problem, you're just born with it, you're just born unvalid. this way people will stop thinking and trace the real cause of the problem.
Having a mother experienced psychiatry does not ad more weight on your arguments. You have your own interest in interpreting the past the way it suits you.
Why do the media, the establishment, defend drug use when the drugs are purveyed by white men's corporations? Buy a bag of cannabis and you're an irresponsible member of the herd; get a prescription for some poorly extracted monochrome pill version of the plant and you're a reliable consumer once more. The cynicism is staggering.
Yes, you can criticize ritalin, antidepressants, psychiatry. There has been and there will be abuse. But how the ****ing hell can Tom believe he knows more about psychiatry and medicine than the rest of the world? When exactly did he study it all? And are all the scientists, pharmacologists, psychiatrists just ill-informed? Tom Cruise, the great scholar? Give me a break! Just 'cause your church (cult) tells you, you're the best, does not mean you are. So full of himself, hard to watch for me!
@Mejuz how the hell can you belief that you know more about psychiatry? it not about incidental abuse, its about a structural failing system, deliberate, to serve the political and financial interests within the system. So you even know anything about psychiatry? you only cared about tom cruise talking about it. All the socalled- scientists, pharmacologists, psychiatrists are not just ill-informed? they are in on it.
@MrJuancarlosferrero: I criticize Tom for thinking he knows more than people who have studied and researched in psychiatry, I never say I knew anything, ok? Mind you, I know there are different opinions, even among scholars. But an organisation that says all psycho-active medicine is wrong sounds too absolutist and brainwashed to me. Talking of systems: Scientology is not a system? No interests? Hmm.. And: your view of psychiatry is paranoid and conspiracy theory-inclined, THAT I know!
@Mejuz You really must be a groupie to call him TOM so intimately. saying all psycho-active medicine is wrong sounds too absolutist and brainwashed to you, cos you're more brainwashed than you realise. Scientology control the media? no they are not powerfull and rich enough. so where did you get your media-mix that pre-programmed you to resist any criticism on psychiatry? You claim to not know anything, yet you blindly defend the researches of psychiatry
@Mejuz You really must be a groupie to call him TOM so intimately. saying all psycho-active medicine is wrong sounds too absolutist and brainwashed to you, cos you're more brainwashed than you realise. Scientology control the media? no they are not powerfull and rich enough. so where did you get your media-mix that pre-programmed you to resist any criticism on psychiatry? You claim to not know anything, yet you blindly defend the researches of psychiatry
@Mejuz whilst not knowing how those results were created in the first place, have you done any scientific research yourself? or have you ever seen how researches were caried out in psychiatry? there is something in basic social-psychology thats called self-fullfilling-prophecy, ALL contacts between the psychiatric staff and their subjects defies that. so how do they get their objective observations? do you have any idea what it is like to be under control of a psychiatrist?
@Mejuz what it is to have a tag like schizophrenia on your for head for the rest of your life? read about the socalled "symptones" of schizophrenia and see if you could recognise yourself in it. when you are in a socially weak position and surendered to the mercy of a psychiatrist and his "judgment" you would wish that you were just an criminal instead. cos jall would seem mercyfull in comparison.
How can he expect people to take him seriously and with impartiality when it is well known that Scientology hates psychiatry simply because the people of the profession question the methods of Scientology?
he's partly right...what happens though if someone has a serious condition like schizophrenia????psychiatric help is needed then my dear tom..i hope that neither you or one of your loved ones gets a condition like schizophrenia cause then you wouldnt be able to cure it without psychiatric help..
@jazzmanEE thats bullshit. most people with schizofrenia do not hear voice, see things or have problem functioning. some people came in contact with the police once and end up in psychiatry, some are jobless, some are still kids, and they have drugs forced upon them for the rest of their lifes. schizophrenia is a way to single out the people who are in conflict with the society and marginalize them, drugs prevent them from confronting the real issues in life.
@MrJuancarlosferrero: May I enter your discussion with JazzmanEE?: My mom had 2 outbreaks of schizophrenia after my dad died. Nobody tried to single her out, but she would not accept help. She heard voices, did not function. Went to a clinic, got Meds (back in 78: lots of side-effects!). They let her stop the meds. Unable to "confront the real issues" of a 30-yr old widow with two small kids, she turned to drinking. I would have preferred the meds. She died of alcohol-related diseases 5 yrs ago
@MrJuancarlosferrero: just adding: She stopped the meds in a slow, medically monitored process! Just not to have you squek in that they (evil psychiatry / doctors) let her stop cold turkey, which would've been harmful. Nope, she was well-accompanied, did it right. But refused to start treatment again, when symptoms returned after a few months and drank instead. So let us also fight against the alcohol industry, as they prevent people from facing their real issues. The last sentence was ironic.
thats bullshit. most people with schizofrenia do not hear voice, see things or have problem functioning. some people came in contact with the police once and end up in psychiatry, some are jobless, some are still kids, and they have drugs forced upon them for the rest of their lifes. schizophrenia is a way to single out the people who are in conflict with the society and marginalize them, drugs prevent them from confronting the real issues in life.
tom is so right im sorry people cant talk unless they took Ritalin because i was given that at a really young age like 8 or 9 because i was suffering from Depression an they didnt know what to give me because everything else was making it worst so please dont talk if you dont know anything about it and u think u know just by reading about it, i dont think so.
There are such things as chemical imbalances. We have MRIs and other various brain scans to show that. Schizophrenia is something that must be dealt with with drugs. I can understand the ritalin argument, but there is a need for drugs and there are chemical imbalances. Tom Cruise needs to take a step back and just critically think it over again.
@wojovox thats bullshit and you know it. there are people who are tagged as schizophrenics while not hallucining, not hearing voices, having no problem functioning at all. those people are in conflict with the society and were told they are chemically imbalanced, which in order means their personality is invalid, since their biochemistry isnt right. all their thoughts and opinions became invalid too. a perfect mean to make political prisoners for life.
No, I don't know it's bullshit. Look at an autistic kid. Clearly there is something amiss in some individuals.
"tagged as schizo while NOT hallucinating" indicates the individual is not schizo. And if you're making this point, I agree, there are a lot of misdiagnosed individuals.
I'm speaking on behalf of the fact that there are those who have a serious problem that needs to be addressed. You took a tangent with my previous comment.
@wojovox "schizo while NOT hallucinating indicates the individual is not schizo", NOT the psychiatrists, the list of symptones of schizophrenia is specially designed to contain everyone who ever may find themselves in a vunerable position. it is not that there are a lot of misdiagnosed individuals, the diagnostic manual is designed to pull everybody in, while defying the most basic elements of social-psychology.
@wojovox "schizo while NOT hallucinating indicates the individual is not schizo", NOT the psychiatrists, the list of symptones of schizophrenia is specially designed to contain everyone who ever may find themselves in a vunerable position. it is not that there are a lot of misdiagnosed individuals, the diagnostic manual is designed to pull everybody in, while defying the most basic elements of social-psychology.
@wojovox the FAST MAJORITY of people who are being tagged schizophrens are deliberately shoved into that box, cos it just make it easier to control them. Autistism seem to be a bit different, but also here there are structural fraudes, not all autists are RAINMAN. I know a girl who was diagnosed as autistic from very very young, but lucky enough, and she is a rare case, to never been drugged. She lives now on her own and have written/published a book.
@wojovox the FAST MAJORITY of people who are being tagged schizophrens are deliberately shoved into that box, cos it just make it easier to control them. Autistism seem to be a bit different, but also here there are structural fraudes, not all autists are RAINMAN. I know a girl who was diagnosed as autistic from very very young, but lucky enough, and she is a rare case, to never been drugged. She lives now on her own and have written/published a book.
@wojovox She is the sort of person from who one can see slightly that there is something different when she talks and communicates and so on, really had diffeculties in school and as a kid. if it were up to the psychiatrists, she would've been admitted for the rest of her life.
Psychology is where it's at. Psychiatry is just where the money is. It's like becoming a doctor, you're a hoot if you study nutrition. I don't think this is some sort of "control" scheme, it's probaly about the money.
There's probaly a way to guide autistic kids to be healthy contributions to our society. But on an atomic level, something is just not flowing right between synapses.
@wojovox there is financial and political interests behind psychiatry, financial means only would not be enough to allow them to became that big and powerfull. There is only that much a society can do with legal punishment measures, and then you create dissidents, like china. But by turning it into a medical problem, you gain total control of the subject, and no discussion is needed, cos you're "helping him" for his own good.
psychiatry itself functions with religious technics, not agreeing with the doctor and argue and not kissing his ass would mean it not going well with a patient and will be enough reason to increase his dosis of anti-psychotics and extent his containment. ofcourse the public opinion is never gonna side with the subjects, cos they're apparently coo-cook if they get in to psychiatry in the first place, its a cirlce rethoric. When talking about bio-chimical imbalance,
its aimed at schizophrenia and adhd and depression ect. Not Autism. No Anti-psychotics are devoloped for autism, but for schizopfrenia and ect. those all work at the dopamine hypothesis, which claims people with schizophrenia have to much dopamine, people with depression to little ect. People critisizing the bio-chemical imbalance for that it implies that there is something permanently defect in the brain in dopamine production which only can be helped by anti-psychotics taken permanently,
@wojovox psychiatry itself functions with religious technics, not agreeing with the doctor and argue and not kissing his ass would mean it not going well with a patient and will be enough reason to increase his dosis of anti-psychotics and extent his containment. ofcourse the public opinion is never gonna side with the subjects, cos they're apparently coo-cook if they get in to psychiatry in the first place, its a cirlce rethoric. When talking about bio-chimical imbalance,
@wojovox its aimed at schizophrenia and adhd and depression ect. Not Autism. No Anti-psychotics are devoloped for autism, but for schizopfrenia and ect. those all work at the dopamine hypothesis, which claims people with schizophrenia have to much dopamine, people with depression to little ect. People critisizing the bio-chemical imbalance for that it implies that there is something permanently defect in the brain in dopamine production which only can be helped by anti-psychotics
@wojovox taken permanently, thats the standpoint of psychiatry. when a person ends up in psychiatry, his character becomes a sickness, a symptone that needs to be pacified, the rethoric is that characteritics of a person is due to the (genetic) brain chemical balance. Thats what people who say that there is no (genetic) chemical balance is talking about
@wojovox funny thing being that no drugs are there to treat autism, yet most people have had anti-psychotics being admitted, appearantly cos people seem to have an temper. anti-psychotics all also given to aged people dementing who happen to have a temper.
Okay, hold the phone. Of course there are discussions about the use of meds! It's science based. Science is always changing and improving. Anyone can missuse a drug! That doesn't mean it doesn't have a good use! And Cruise believes that massive doses of vitamins is the cure all for every illness because that's what the psuedo-science of scientoligy teaches! He is against real science because he is promoting CRAP!
Regardless of Tom Cruise's religion. I think he has a great point when talking about Ritalin. Is there not a better way of treating ADHD than giving kids a speed / cocaine substitute?
Alot of people here will ridicule Tom Cruise for saying these things, but if you are in the scientific community, his arguments are part of the very large debate going on about "chemical imbalances." Did you know that the amount of ADD cases has grown exponentially in the last 10 years? I'm beginning to believe that there is a gross amount of misinformation spread to patients and concerned family members who begin to believe, "Oh Johnny ain't hyper, he's just got a chemical imbalance."
There's NOTHING wrong with what TOM said this has been a silent truth for years, people are too fucking stupid and worried about their sports and TOOL blond bimbos with their TOOL identical homes etc. to care about real issues like this. HUGE corporations along with our government want people to believe drugs are the answer, they "solve chemical imbalances". Just like Tom Cruise says, "drugs are not the answer they only mask the problem". If people would wake the fuck up they would know this.
he's a fuckin idiot. what is he a doctor now? i hope he goes thru a real hard time and then i'll jump on my couch and tell the whole world i love prozac
Tom is speaking the truth. We live in a monkey see monkey do society, where people are brainwashed to jump on the media banwagon. Its bad enough that people have to be told how to feel by tv networks, governments or complete strangers, but even worse that they put thier faith in a pill of wich the contents or effects are uncertain. Have the courage to use your own knowledge.
tom is a crazy arrogant cultist. there is no such thing as a chemical imbalance??? that is provably false tommy boy. this is coming purely from his "religion" and him trying to say he didn't believe in psychiatry before he joined his cult is total bullshit and is merely cover for the insanity and mind control that exists in the cult. i would like to know the sources of his "research" on drugs and psychiatry. what a f'n lunatic. too bad, i used to like a lot of his movies.
@slyjokerg you seem to be the crazy arrogant cultist here. if you knew anything about psychiatry and academical debate concerning psychiatry, you wouldnt have picked the chemical balance phrase to criticize his statements. There is no chemical balance ever been prooved. you just pretend to defend what you think is logic by pretending an expert. and btw, one do not need to join a church to stand against psychiatry, infact, most people who are standing up against it are not associated with sf.
@slyjokerg you seem to be the crazy arrogant cultist here. if you knew anything about psychiatry and academical debate concerning psychiatry, you wouldnt have picked the chemical balance phrase to criticize his statements. There is no chemical balance ever been prooved. you just pretend to defend what you think is logic by pretending an expert. and btw, one do not need to join a church to stand against psychiatry, infact, most people who are standing up against it are not associated with sf.
Mr. Tom cruise for one thing, is absolutly right, all drugs that work on the brain are not a proper way to fix mental problem, for most off the people, also some of those drugs have very dangerous side effects, witch very often are not properly report in scientific paper, so I would say that for the most part on this subject Mr Tom Cruise is talking wisdom!!! listen to what he says!!!
The high school shooters are all on these medications. So in the media they claim they were "depressed" poor things, while in reality they became insane from being addicted to those anti depressants. It's absolutely crazy that there is not more focus on this in this "enlightening" age.. Ritalin makes you become a monkey, the whole structure of your body changes and you don't know who are anymore. The patient needs LOVE and understanding, work out, eat healthy.
@Linda8580 I totally agree with your idea of treatment through exercise, diet, and real loving attention. I have been afflicted by diagnosis of ADD and was prescribed to Ritalin without any personal awareness of the side effects of these drugs, and believe I have suffered stunted growth and possible mental instability, which revolves around depression and low self-esteem. I just feel so angry that only a hand full of people have the humility to see through this easy way out for lazy parents.
Tom is right. Drugs from those mafia companies are destroying our world and most people have no idea that they are day by day being reprogrammed in their soul and mind. Very dangerous to use drugs that affects the mindset you've had your whole life. If Brooke Shields benefits from it - it's because she wants to believe that it did. This is what lots of people say as well that they think drugs make them better, then the next day they think it's destroying them. So basically you are fuc***d up..
"There's only one remedy for crime -- get rid of the psychs! They are causing it!"
L. Ron Hubbard, HCOB of 6 May 1982 "The Cause of Crime"
Hubbard (and the Church of Scientology) blames Psychiatry for the rise of Hitler and Stalin, World War 2, the Holocaust, the attack on the Twin Towers of the World Trade Centre on 9/11, the Virginia Tech shootings, and other international tragedies.
L. Ron Hubbard had a vendetta against psychiatrists since the APA rejected Dianetics in 1950.
1:38 learn from the history! what should be understood, normally u would start off a 'skeptic' to find an answer. yeah there is misinformation , i researched the net from 2007 to 2008 about all the history of medicine to understand smtg real and I did and reality is pretty just as the truth is for everybody to experience and it needs to be simple.
find a way to agree about the truth, evaluate the content if u may! it's easy if u try, naturally
Step One of the NOTs Valence Technique, "What are you?", is a listing question. It is asked to find the valence the BT or cluster is stuck in (obsessively being), thereby shifting the BT or cluster out of that valence. Sometimes a BT or cluster will answer at first with a wrong item or items. Then there wont be any valence shift, nor will there be any blow.
Finding the correct item (the valence the BT or cluster is obsessively being), will shift the BT or cluster out of that valence, and remaining steps of acknowledging the item, and asking "Who are you?" will produce the cognition: "Im me", and it will blow.
There is actually another point that youre not getting. GlazosmithKline knew as early as 1998 that paxil didnt perform better then placebo and had an increased risk of suicide. Yet they decided to hide this. Instead they decided to ghost-write the drug into efficacy, heavily tweak the data as to give a false impression about its effecacy, and send that off to the FDA for approval for treating depression in children.
I believe I have given you ample proof that there is a connection between antidepressants use and school shootings. Again, 90% of these kids had the use of antidepressants in common, what else is there to say.
If you google: Paxil Study 329: Paroxetine vs Imipramine vs Placebo in Adolecents.
You can read about that whole scam, take your time doing so. I hope that the glaxosmithkline documents youll read will shed some light on the more clandestine operations that the everyday pharmaceutical company employs.
So my question to you is: Why should I acquire critical appraisal skills from an industry thats full of lies, deceit and a misguided concept of marketing?
After analyzing data from clinical trials, GlaxoSmithKline warnings to doctors that its antidepressant drug Paxil appears to increase the risk of SUICIDE attempts in some young adults.
I read the article and am surprised at how you have cherry-picked those facts which bear most relevance for your arguement. I wonder if your mind is already made up, to which no amount of rational persuasion could make a difference, but i'll have a go anyway:
11 of 3,455 people taking the drug reporte attempted suicide compared with 1 in 1,978 taking placebo.
In other words 0.3% compared with 0.05% - a 6-fold increase. Statistics never lie, but compare the sample sizes... cont.
3,455 is 3/4 times bigger than 1,978. i.e. with a bigger sample size, the chance of there being someone with suicidal tendencies is increased. Besides, an incidence of 0.3% is very low, in fact 'rare' is the word used in the article u pointed out to me.
Also, the clinical trial which reports this finding were not looking to compare signs of suicidal behaviour, hence their findings are as yet inconclusive. The fact that a warning letter was sent out and the label changed is typical... cont.
...of those in the pharmaceutical industry to err on the side of caution, rather than take a risk, however small.
I'm not saying that Paroxetine isn't responsible for an increased risk of suicide, but at the same time, with the information available it's simply impossible to tell.
I could go on forever.
My point is, if you're main source of information is mainstream media, and you lack critical appraisal skills, your opinion is always going to distort what you read to suit your opinions
The company said it had changed the labeling on the drug to reflect the finding of the study, which analyzed clinical trial data involving some 15,000 people. It found that reported suicides attempts were significantly more common in adults who took the drug for depression than in those who received PLACEBO's.
Tom Cruise could not win a debate with a 7th grader. Matt is being kind. Anyone else would have laughed Tom off the stage. Tom was completely lost if Matt tried to bring up any point.
It's not his fault either, we all perceive the world through distorted eyes, that's one of the things which make us human. He has every right to disagree with psychiatry and Matt has every right to play devil's advocate and while both men are exercising their rights, one thing becomes clear: TC is a fanatic, and fanatics are (to varying degrees) dangerous people.
If that's the case, then his mind was already made up before he did his 'research' which puts a bias on anything he reads. Scientific articles are thorough, and will explore a subject from all angles. I suspect that having read such articles TC has turned a blind eye to anything he considers contradictory to his own prejudiced beliefs, and has 'cherry-picked' those facts which he considers to be in line with them.
Matt has every right to play the devil's advocate in the hope that TC will enlighten him - thats what every journalist does to separate those who are secure and confident about what they believe in, from those who are insecure and respond by being defensive. TC takes the bait and it makes you wonder whether he really believes what he says. In fact he says that he's always disagreed with psychiatry.
matt was being incredibly patient? he's on the today show. it's not even an option to be otherwise. not to mention the fact that he was WRONG, and tom blatantly called him on it. just because tom had the guts to not be passive about an important issue doesn't make him a nut job. he's just got more balls than you.
tom cruise is right. nothing he is saying is false, and if you feel the need to say otherwise, prove he is wrong first. do the homework. go learn, be responsible. everything he said was true.
I don't get why people think Tom Cruise is a tool. He's fucking cool in this video.
I completely agree with him and at the end he says "I'm passionate about learning and about life" and he says it with this sort of "who the fuck isn't passionate about these things" tone.
Awesome.
pinglauwa 1 month ago
thats the standpoint of psychiatry. when a person ends up in psychiatry, his character becomes a sickness, a symptone that needs to be pacified, the rethoric is that characteritics of a person is due to the (genetic) brain chemical balance. Thats what people who say that there is no (genetic) chemical balance is talking about.
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
serving the system and to maintain it's status-quo, experts who were only experts because they comply by following the doctrine, and if they dont, they wouldnt have attained their expert diploma in the first place.I profundly agree with Satz who talked about a therapeutical society.
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago in playlist Tom Cruise
Psychiatry resembles a religion far more than Sciencetology does. I think psychiatry is the ultimate religion, the highest point of a grotesque climax that any religion could ever reach. There is not only financial interests behind it, but political interest too. It's task lies in magicly tranforming social problems into medical issues, whereas the definition of reality is no longer open to discussion but becomes under patent of a innercirlcle of so-called experts controlled by and
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago in playlist Tom Cruise
The main topic when confronting psychiatry should be schizofrenia, which is a hat created to put on the heads of people who are in conflict with the society, to pacify them as danger elements to the system before they can pose any danger to the System. A way to contain (young) people who had been through too much, who have seen too much contracdictions and conflicts in this hypocrite society to believe in it's lies any longer. A way to contain millions of potential revolutionaries if you like.
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago in playlist Tom Cruise
in the battle Cruise vs Psychiatry, Cruise with his tiny $300 millions of asset is not even anywhere near to be the Goliath here, yet people
buy the spin of this rich powerfull weirdo (probably in the closet too) with no diploma controlling the media attacking the holy medical science crap. Even Sciencetology Church is at most just a rebel compares to what it is fighting against (again i havent yet made up my mind on its true motives and capability and as a result, its trustworthness) .
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago in playlist Tom Cruise
in the battle Cruise vs Psychiatry, Cruise with his tiny $300 millions of asset is not even anywhere near to be the Goliath here, yet people
buy the spin of this rich powerfull weirdo (probably in the closet too) with no diploma controlling the media attacking the holy medical science crap. Even Sciencetology Church is at most just a rebel compares to what it is fighting against (again i havent yet made up my mind on its true motives and capability and as a result, its trustworthness).
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago in playlist Tom Cruise
Instead the topic had been depression, which is something that people perversly find cool and deep(like most mental diseases, partly due to the media highing it up), something to admire, something to ad more depth to their shallow life. When one (Cruise) says "dont just take chemicals to enhance your dopamine production", idiots everywhere stood up and defend the "freedom" of taking psychotics. Now could it get more absurd than that?
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago in playlist Tom Cruise
When you are a young person living at home who have difficult relations with your parents and may they decide to unleash psychiatry on you, there is almost no way you could get out of that, and no judge who would believe your side of the story. Yet there have been and still are tens of millions of people, kids who end up in psychiatry like that and probably for the rest of their lifes living in fear or numbness.
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago in playlist Tom Cruise
I think he has been clumbsy by talking about it without thinking it through, perhaps(most likely) his motivations are wrong, pushing more people who knew nothing and still do not care to know anything about the ways of psychiatry into defending it. The focus point should be forced admissions and forced drug for the rest of a persons life, which needs really little as justification in todays society.
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago in playlist Tom Cruise
Great Tom Cruise... :-)
urssglory 6 months ago in playlist Tom Cruise
I agree with Tom cruise ON THIS TOPIC ONLY. There are actually videos & reports by psychologists & psychiatrists who call this profession 'fraud'. Do a search & you'll see.
000aysh 7 months ago
He's insane but hes right.
Terrorist12341 7 months ago in playlist Tom Cruise
Ok, I have no respect for any celebrity professing to be an expert on anything. They're allowed to have valid opinions, but they are a recognisable face, they arent experts. That said, Tom is actually making an important statement. His logic is much more clear than the reporters. I don't like him but he's got a point. The reporters logic is, i've seen people get better, so it must work. Thats the same logic as 'Timmy was loud, now he's quiet, so he's better' or 'I prayed for rain, and it came'.
seraphs123 8 months ago
He's Insane
wordface 10 months ago
Tom is right...i know he is a bit of looney but he is right on this.
LokiV 10 months ago
I would love to support scientologys beliefs against psychiatry without actually converting to this religon. Nothing against this religon or any religon for that matter I have an open mind. But I will give this religon BIG KUDOS for being against ALL drugs and antipsychiatry!
AmandaN024 11 months ago
I also love how scientology is against drugs and psychiatric abuse. I am not a scientologist myself. I think Tom Cruise, Kelly Preston, John Trovolta should also specify that if you are on medication for depression, "bipolar", anxiety, etc you should not stop cold turkey. There is stuff out there to help you along if you see that these drugs are messing you up. There are substances of opiates, heroin and coccaine and the withdrawal is similar where you can potentially die if not done properly.
AmandaN024 11 months ago
I am not a scientologist. I am walking, living proof that psychiatry is fake and evil. At the age of 15 I was put on 14 different psychotropic medications. Standing 5'2 115lbs-180lbs. Couldn't succeed in school, college or work. Was sheltered, lost so many friends. I was so called "bipolar" just because I was going through puberty. I am now 24 yrs of age and drug free 100% since october and doing great. Living my life, working and able to function like a normal 24 yr old woman. IT'S ALL BS
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@AmandaN024 14 different psychotropic medications and you expected to get better?
controllerbrain 9 months ago
Someones having a seizure, A scientologist will continue to deny that they require medication. That's as simple as it is. You're cultists and you're dangerous.
isthisnamegood 1 year ago
Clearly the person who uploaded this video wants to push the same mind-numbing agenda that Tom Cruise has bought into. I can't even take this guy seriously knowing that he's a Scientologist. Tom do you know the history of Scientology? And just "reading" about the history of psychiatry is not enough. I'm more than positive that Tom only reads the 'history' books that prescribe with his beliefs and non-beliefs. Bye Tom! And bye to the person who uploaded this with the wacky lines in the summary.
ToySpoilers 1 year ago
@ToySpoilers reading the 'history' books that prescribe with his beliefs and non-beliefs. sounds more like yourself. if you watch tv at all the stfu about mind-numbing agenda, since you're in it yourself.
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
Matt is glib. He doesn't even know what Ritalin is!
controllerbrain 1 year ago 9
Geez..Stop telling ppl what they know & what they dont know.How rude.You scientlogists are supposed to be nice at ALL times.It's the 10 million dollar RULE & you pd for it,so start practiceing it!
SmokinMo11 1 year ago
no to drugs, yes to life. tom is right.
recordplace 1 year ago 2
tom, do you know the history of scientology??
vickyKH 1 year ago
Ron Paul 2012
Read Thomas Szasz
hondansxable 1 year ago
Tom, would you please just take off all your clothes or shut the fuck up. SYTOSTFU!
curtispsf 1 year ago
Do you know the ORGS?. Do you know about L.Ron.Hubbard, the charlatan and carnival huckster criminal who "invented" Scientology so he could make lots of money. Do you know about Evil Lord Xenu? Do you know how the Earth was populated Millions of years ago by extraterrestrials? Tom knows all these things and more. You too can learn all you need to know about Scientology after you tell the Scientologists your net worth so they know how much to charge you for this "religion". TOM, take a valium!
curtispsf 1 year ago
@curtispsf moron, whos the fuck told you this is about sciencetology? take a valium your self
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
Cruise has no background in science of any kind.
Bumblybee256 1 year ago
i think he is the cutes and the hottest
MAMMAMARY1970 1 year ago
When I first saw this, I thought Tom was a little naive (although correct) But now im sure im on his side! ANTIPSYCHIATRY NOW!
rouncer81 1 year ago
it isnt necessary to believe that the universe is 14 trillions years old and that we are receptacles to the eons' ancient souls to understand that psychiatry is a drug business, with little or no real scientific basis. I mean, the guy makes a point, yeah, but that doens't make him less berserk!
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anon3399 1 year ago
tom cruise is wrong. i have anziety and depression for all my life. dont tell me what i need tom. everything u said was out of order cruise...i would be dead if not for xanax and seroquel.....and i even went to scientology...they taught me how 2 lie
hasbeen9955 1 year ago
@hasbeen9955 are you lying right now? dont tell everybody else what they need just because you say you need it.
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
@MrJuancarlosferrero: Why are you so aggressively defending Tom? And why misread hasbeen's comment? She/He does not tell "everybody" what they need to do, she/he gives just a personal account which shows that Tom's views don't work for her/him, leading to the conclusion that they don't work for everybody. He/She tells only Tom what he needs to do, to shut up. Freedom of speech, ok? You should cool down a bit, many ways lead to Rome, not only one!
Mejuz 5 months ago
@Mejuz Freedom of speech and telling what Cruise NEED to do, which is to shut up. yeah that sounds logic. you should learn to read and think first before learning to type. You're the one so sincerely calling him Tom, sounds like "TOM" is a much more familiar person to you than he is to me. Why is that? perhaps because ypu couldnt stay away from the television? afraid that you else would have free time to actually start thinking on your own? you're just here cos a celebrity
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
@MrJuancarlosferrero: You're mixing it up here. It is everybody's right to say Tom needs to shut up. It may not be PC or polite. But it is only logic that, as much as you have the right to say you think he's right, that someone else might use the same freedom/right to say they think he better shut up. Your projections are really funny, man. You have no clue who I am, yet you waste your time characterizing a fantasized image of me, as if you knew me. Stay with the topic and stop attacking people.
Mejuz 5 months ago
@Mejuz i know very well how your kind of people are like, you talk about the freedom speech when it suits you, and tell anybody else to shut up. stop twisting things around.
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
@Mejuz said something controversial. Why is a celebrity that powerfull and intimidating to people like you? Who cares more here about tom cruise? you obviously. More ways lead to ROME? are you fucking kidding me? you might want to tell the psychiatrists that, see what you'll get for answer. Cruise has no control over people and psychiatry has. it has the power to force people to be confined and drugged for lifetimes, criminals have more rights than a person who accidentally become a patient.
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
@Mejuz It's funny that amature freedom fighters always know to pick the weaker enemy to show off your courage, how to pick the easier fight. learn first to see the difference between David and Goliath, whos the rebel here and who's in control.
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
@MrJuancarlosferrero: Well, I was quite sincere to you, writing about the tragic story of my mum to make the point that sometimes you cannot just blame it all on psychiatry (which in her case helped) and that not taking any drugs does not necessarily lead to a healthier outcome. You did not even partly respond. If you are just here to spit out your hatred and prejudged theories, fine! But I will use my time and energy on others, you are def. a waste of both. I repeat: You NEED to cool down!! Bye
Mejuz 5 months ago
@Mejuz I doubt if you know the meaning of sincerity. you think that you had it difficult or you mother? you should've taken some haloperidol of zyprexa yourself to understand why she would prefer alcohol to those. and to understand what the far reaching consequenses are of the (often) permenant side-effects. SHE gone thru that, NOT YOU. The right way, if there is any, to stop the anti-psychotics is at tops 5% decrease of the dosis every week. (2mg a day to 1,9 mg a day)
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
@Mejuz and it could take a year or more to be completely drug free, and im not even talking about the rebuilding process, cos what is taken away and damaged by the anti-psychotics have to be replaced by new experiences, new chemicals. The psychiatrist usually just let patients cut half of the dosis, and then cut half again. the dopamine overdose left over is gonna keep messing with their heads. Whenever people become messed up,
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
@Mejuz it is at first a social problem, cause and consequenses, childhood issues, living conditions, body bio-chemicals, accumulated effects. Nobody is blaming it ALL on psychiatry, people blame psychiatry for being a tool to further damage the subjects and prevent people with dealing wiht the real issue which at itself is hard enough. Alcohol is also a way to further worthen the problem since nobody without any personal issue ever get addicted to it.
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
@Mejuz So instead of looking at their problems we tag them as alcoholics, yeah that makes sense. alcohol use should be fought against and theres is nothing funny about that. I dont get your sarcasm in that unfortunately. Psychiatry is been called in to cut thru the chain of cause and consequenses. saying it's no the society's problem, you're just born with it, you're just born unvalid. this way people will stop thinking and trace the real cause of the problem.
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
Having a mother experienced psychiatry does not ad more weight on your arguments. You have your own interest in interpreting the past the way it suits you.
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
I could tell at "the difference is" Matt realises that he didn't have a cunting idea what he was fucking on about.
DetectiveDeckard 1 year ago
Why do the media, the establishment, defend drug use when the drugs are purveyed by white men's corporations? Buy a bag of cannabis and you're an irresponsible member of the herd; get a prescription for some poorly extracted monochrome pill version of the plant and you're a reliable consumer once more. The cynicism is staggering.
5147848amp 1 year ago 2
@5147848amp Money.
Xenon360RD 1 year ago
@5147848amp i was about to say the exact same thing as you
RAMSTERLORD 1 year ago
Yes, you can criticize ritalin, antidepressants, psychiatry. There has been and there will be abuse. But how the ****ing hell can Tom believe he knows more about psychiatry and medicine than the rest of the world? When exactly did he study it all? And are all the scientists, pharmacologists, psychiatrists just ill-informed? Tom Cruise, the great scholar? Give me a break! Just 'cause your church (cult) tells you, you're the best, does not mean you are. So full of himself, hard to watch for me!
Mejuz 1 year ago
@Mejuz how the hell can you belief that you know more about psychiatry? it not about incidental abuse, its about a structural failing system, deliberate, to serve the political and financial interests within the system. So you even know anything about psychiatry? you only cared about tom cruise talking about it. All the socalled- scientists, pharmacologists, psychiatrists are not just ill-informed? they are in on it.
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
@MrJuancarlosferrero: I criticize Tom for thinking he knows more than people who have studied and researched in psychiatry, I never say I knew anything, ok? Mind you, I know there are different opinions, even among scholars. But an organisation that says all psycho-active medicine is wrong sounds too absolutist and brainwashed to me. Talking of systems: Scientology is not a system? No interests? Hmm.. And: your view of psychiatry is paranoid and conspiracy theory-inclined, THAT I know!
Mejuz 5 months ago
@Mejuz You really must be a groupie to call him TOM so intimately. saying all psycho-active medicine is wrong sounds too absolutist and brainwashed to you, cos you're more brainwashed than you realise. Scientology control the media? no they are not powerfull and rich enough. so where did you get your media-mix that pre-programmed you to resist any criticism on psychiatry? You claim to not know anything, yet you blindly defend the researches of psychiatry
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
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@Mejuz You really must be a groupie to call him TOM so intimately. saying all psycho-active medicine is wrong sounds too absolutist and brainwashed to you, cos you're more brainwashed than you realise. Scientology control the media? no they are not powerfull and rich enough. so where did you get your media-mix that pre-programmed you to resist any criticism on psychiatry? You claim to not know anything, yet you blindly defend the researches of psychiatry
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
@Mejuz whilst not knowing how those results were created in the first place, have you done any scientific research yourself? or have you ever seen how researches were caried out in psychiatry? there is something in basic social-psychology thats called self-fullfilling-prophecy, ALL contacts between the psychiatric staff and their subjects defies that. so how do they get their objective observations? do you have any idea what it is like to be under control of a psychiatrist?
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
@Mejuz what it is to have a tag like schizophrenia on your for head for the rest of your life? read about the socalled "symptones" of schizophrenia and see if you could recognise yourself in it. when you are in a socially weak position and surendered to the mercy of a psychiatrist and his "judgment" you would wish that you were just an criminal instead. cos jall would seem mercyfull in comparison.
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
Could have been a little less aggressive... But he is absolutely right, no question.
Keep up the good work Tom.
dhamby1 1 year ago
Tom looks agressive and a little bit crazy.
How can he expect people to take him seriously and with impartiality when it is well known that Scientology hates psychiatry simply because the people of the profession question the methods of Scientology?
LAnonHubbard 1 year ago
xenu
catalinaguerrero 2 years ago
he's partly right...what happens though if someone has a serious condition like schizophrenia????psychiatric help is needed then my dear tom..i hope that neither you or one of your loved ones gets a condition like schizophrenia cause then you wouldnt be able to cure it without psychiatric help..
cheers
jazzmanEE 2 years ago
@jazzmanEE thats bullshit. most people with schizofrenia do not hear voice, see things or have problem functioning. some people came in contact with the police once and end up in psychiatry, some are jobless, some are still kids, and they have drugs forced upon them for the rest of their lifes. schizophrenia is a way to single out the people who are in conflict with the society and marginalize them, drugs prevent them from confronting the real issues in life.
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
@MrJuancarlosferrero: May I enter your discussion with JazzmanEE?: My mom had 2 outbreaks of schizophrenia after my dad died. Nobody tried to single her out, but she would not accept help. She heard voices, did not function. Went to a clinic, got Meds (back in 78: lots of side-effects!). They let her stop the meds. Unable to "confront the real issues" of a 30-yr old widow with two small kids, she turned to drinking. I would have preferred the meds. She died of alcohol-related diseases 5 yrs ago
Mejuz 5 months ago
@MrJuancarlosferrero: just adding: She stopped the meds in a slow, medically monitored process! Just not to have you squek in that they (evil psychiatry / doctors) let her stop cold turkey, which would've been harmful. Nope, she was well-accompanied, did it right. But refused to start treatment again, when symptoms returned after a few months and drank instead. So let us also fight against the alcohol industry, as they prevent people from facing their real issues. The last sentence was ironic.
Mejuz 5 months ago
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@jazzmanEE
thats bullshit. most people with schizofrenia do not hear voice, see things or have problem functioning. some people came in contact with the police once and end up in psychiatry, some are jobless, some are still kids, and they have drugs forced upon them for the rest of their lifes. schizophrenia is a way to single out the people who are in conflict with the society and marginalize them, drugs prevent them from confronting the real issues in life.
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
Lets say you are a normal person. Just imagine yourself as you are now.
Can you say something that you would NEVER do? Like torturing an animal.. suicide... something that you would NEVER do??
csurmi22 2 years ago
tom is so right im sorry people cant talk unless they took Ritalin because i was given that at a really young age like 8 or 9 because i was suffering from Depression an they didnt know what to give me because everything else was making it worst so please dont talk if you dont know anything about it and u think u know just by reading about it, i dont think so.
bird2374 2 years ago 2
how does he feel about skunk ?
GoodByeKyle 2 years ago
Tom is suffering from more than chemical imbalance in his brain......
$cientology is going down and Space Tom is a living proof of that.
PelleSansIos 2 years ago
There are such things as chemical imbalances. We have MRIs and other various brain scans to show that. Schizophrenia is something that must be dealt with with drugs. I can understand the ritalin argument, but there is a need for drugs and there are chemical imbalances. Tom Cruise needs to take a step back and just critically think it over again.
wojovox 2 years ago
@wojovox thats bullshit and you know it. there are people who are tagged as schizophrenics while not hallucining, not hearing voices, having no problem functioning at all. those people are in conflict with the society and were told they are chemically imbalanced, which in order means their personality is invalid, since their biochemistry isnt right. all their thoughts and opinions became invalid too. a perfect mean to make political prisoners for life.
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
@MrJuancarlosferrero
No, I don't know it's bullshit. Look at an autistic kid. Clearly there is something amiss in some individuals.
"tagged as schizo while NOT hallucinating" indicates the individual is not schizo. And if you're making this point, I agree, there are a lot of misdiagnosed individuals.
I'm speaking on behalf of the fact that there are those who have a serious problem that needs to be addressed. You took a tangent with my previous comment.
wojovox 5 months ago
@wojovox "schizo while NOT hallucinating indicates the individual is not schizo", NOT the psychiatrists, the list of symptones of schizophrenia is specially designed to contain everyone who ever may find themselves in a vunerable position. it is not that there are a lot of misdiagnosed individuals, the diagnostic manual is designed to pull everybody in, while defying the most basic elements of social-psychology.
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
@wojovox "schizo while NOT hallucinating indicates the individual is not schizo", NOT the psychiatrists, the list of symptones of schizophrenia is specially designed to contain everyone who ever may find themselves in a vunerable position. it is not that there are a lot of misdiagnosed individuals, the diagnostic manual is designed to pull everybody in, while defying the most basic elements of social-psychology.
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
@wojovox the FAST MAJORITY of people who are being tagged schizophrens are deliberately shoved into that box, cos it just make it easier to control them. Autistism seem to be a bit different, but also here there are structural fraudes, not all autists are RAINMAN. I know a girl who was diagnosed as autistic from very very young, but lucky enough, and she is a rare case, to never been drugged. She lives now on her own and have written/published a book.
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
@wojovox the FAST MAJORITY of people who are being tagged schizophrens are deliberately shoved into that box, cos it just make it easier to control them. Autistism seem to be a bit different, but also here there are structural fraudes, not all autists are RAINMAN. I know a girl who was diagnosed as autistic from very very young, but lucky enough, and she is a rare case, to never been drugged. She lives now on her own and have written/published a book.
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
@wojovox She is the sort of person from who one can see slightly that there is something different when she talks and communicates and so on, really had diffeculties in school and as a kid. if it were up to the psychiatrists, she would've been admitted for the rest of her life.
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
@MrJuancarlosferrero
Whoa. One comment at a time please.
Psychology is where it's at. Psychiatry is just where the money is. It's like becoming a doctor, you're a hoot if you study nutrition. I don't think this is some sort of "control" scheme, it's probaly about the money.
There's probaly a way to guide autistic kids to be healthy contributions to our society. But on an atomic level, something is just not flowing right between synapses.
wojovox 5 months ago
@wojovox there is financial and political interests behind psychiatry, financial means only would not be enough to allow them to became that big and powerfull. There is only that much a society can do with legal punishment measures, and then you create dissidents, like china. But by turning it into a medical problem, you gain total control of the subject, and no discussion is needed, cos you're "helping him" for his own good.
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
psychiatry itself functions with religious technics, not agreeing with the doctor and argue and not kissing his ass would mean it not going well with a patient and will be enough reason to increase his dosis of anti-psychotics and extent his containment. ofcourse the public opinion is never gonna side with the subjects, cos they're apparently coo-cook if they get in to psychiatry in the first place, its a cirlce rethoric. When talking about bio-chimical imbalance,
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
its aimed at schizophrenia and adhd and depression ect. Not Autism. No Anti-psychotics are devoloped for autism, but for schizopfrenia and ect. those all work at the dopamine hypothesis, which claims people with schizophrenia have to much dopamine, people with depression to little ect. People critisizing the bio-chemical imbalance for that it implies that there is something permanently defect in the brain in dopamine production which only can be helped by anti-psychotics taken permanently,
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
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@wojovox psychiatry itself functions with religious technics, not agreeing with the doctor and argue and not kissing his ass would mean it not going well with a patient and will be enough reason to increase his dosis of anti-psychotics and extent his containment. ofcourse the public opinion is never gonna side with the subjects, cos they're apparently coo-cook if they get in to psychiatry in the first place, its a cirlce rethoric. When talking about bio-chimical imbalance,
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
@wojovox its aimed at schizophrenia and adhd and depression ect. Not Autism. No Anti-psychotics are devoloped for autism, but for schizopfrenia and ect. those all work at the dopamine hypothesis, which claims people with schizophrenia have to much dopamine, people with depression to little ect. People critisizing the bio-chemical imbalance for that it implies that there is something permanently defect in the brain in dopamine production which only can be helped by anti-psychotics
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
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@wojovox taken permanently, thats the standpoint of psychiatry. when a person ends up in psychiatry, his character becomes a sickness, a symptone that needs to be pacified, the rethoric is that characteritics of a person is due to the (genetic) brain chemical balance. Thats what people who say that there is no (genetic) chemical balance is talking about
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
@wojovox funny thing being that no drugs are there to treat autism, yet most people have had anti-psychotics being admitted, appearantly cos people seem to have an temper. anti-psychotics all also given to aged people dementing who happen to have a temper.
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
Okay, hold the phone. Of course there are discussions about the use of meds! It's science based. Science is always changing and improving. Anyone can missuse a drug! That doesn't mean it doesn't have a good use! And Cruise believes that massive doses of vitamins is the cure all for every illness because that's what the psuedo-science of scientoligy teaches! He is against real science because he is promoting CRAP!
thetikidude 2 years ago
Regardless of Tom Cruise's religion. I think he has a great point when talking about Ritalin. Is there not a better way of treating ADHD than giving kids a speed / cocaine substitute?
gorzilla1984 2 years ago 2
Alot of people here will ridicule Tom Cruise for saying these things, but if you are in the scientific community, his arguments are part of the very large debate going on about "chemical imbalances." Did you know that the amount of ADD cases has grown exponentially in the last 10 years? I'm beginning to believe that there is a gross amount of misinformation spread to patients and concerned family members who begin to believe, "Oh Johnny ain't hyper, he's just got a chemical imbalance."
Malacki 2 years ago 2
There's NOTHING wrong with what TOM said this has been a silent truth for years, people are too fucking stupid and worried about their sports and TOOL blond bimbos with their TOOL identical homes etc. to care about real issues like this. HUGE corporations along with our government want people to believe drugs are the answer, they "solve chemical imbalances". Just like Tom Cruise says, "drugs are not the answer they only mask the problem". If people would wake the fuck up they would know this.
BURLYMACHINE 2 years ago 4
@BURLYMACHINE yep.
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
@BURLYMACHINE yep.
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
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tom,cruise you are osama bin laden's whore, did they pay you a lot of money to help kill so meany americans,!!!"
Gary7Gann 2 years ago
Woooohoooooo! PREACH ON!
matsefs 2 years ago
I thought he was an actor, not THE expert on psychology
bootpdx 2 years ago
Psychiatry....NOT psychology. They are different things.
alexyodermusic 2 years ago
@bootpdx are you?
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
@bootpdx get the name tag right first, you're certainly even less the expert than Cruise.
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
god bless you Tom, your a good man.
katzdashatz 2 years ago 3
he's a fuckin idiot. what is he a doctor now? i hope he goes thru a real hard time and then i'll jump on my couch and tell the whole world i love prozac
imasausage 2 years ago
@imasausage what you hope for people to suffer? even Cruise doesnt go that far.you're a fucking idiot, im sure you love prozac.
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
トム、そんなに熱くなるなよ。
hieden 2 years ago
Tom is proof that money can't buy you brains!
mikeseattlewa 2 years ago
poor tom, he doesn't know what he is trying to do! poor people who believe in scientology. Scientology is like shit guys, wake up!!!
a girl from france
Trinity21307 2 years ago
@Trinity21307 psychiatry is like shit, wake up yourself
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
"You gotta understand, I really care about Brooke Shields..."
revokdaryl1 2 years ago
Go on TOM.
roliz135 2 years ago
Tom is speaking the truth. We live in a monkey see monkey do society, where people are brainwashed to jump on the media banwagon. Its bad enough that people have to be told how to feel by tv networks, governments or complete strangers, but even worse that they put thier faith in a pill of wich the contents or effects are uncertain. Have the courage to use your own knowledge.
inja379 2 years ago 2
there is no chemicAL imbalance until you put a chemicals in your brain
Verse314 2 years ago
looks like tom could do with some drugs to be frank!
123petes 2 years ago
tom is a crazy arrogant cultist. there is no such thing as a chemical imbalance??? that is provably false tommy boy. this is coming purely from his "religion" and him trying to say he didn't believe in psychiatry before he joined his cult is total bullshit and is merely cover for the insanity and mind control that exists in the cult. i would like to know the sources of his "research" on drugs and psychiatry. what a f'n lunatic. too bad, i used to like a lot of his movies.
slyjokerg 2 years ago
@slyjokerg you seem to be the crazy arrogant cultist here. if you knew anything about psychiatry and academical debate concerning psychiatry, you wouldnt have picked the chemical balance phrase to criticize his statements. There is no chemical balance ever been prooved. you just pretend to defend what you think is logic by pretending an expert. and btw, one do not need to join a church to stand against psychiatry, infact, most people who are standing up against it are not associated with sf.
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
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@slyjokerg you seem to be the crazy arrogant cultist here. if you knew anything about psychiatry and academical debate concerning psychiatry, you wouldnt have picked the chemical balance phrase to criticize his statements. There is no chemical balance ever been prooved. you just pretend to defend what you think is logic by pretending an expert. and btw, one do not need to join a church to stand against psychiatry, infact, most people who are standing up against it are not associated with sf.
MrJuancarlosferrero 5 months ago
Mr. Tom cruise for one thing, is absolutly right, all drugs that work on the brain are not a proper way to fix mental problem, for most off the people, also some of those drugs have very dangerous side effects, witch very often are not properly report in scientific paper, so I would say that for the most part on this subject Mr Tom Cruise is talking wisdom!!! listen to what he says!!!
SuperFrancois62 2 years ago 2
The high school shooters are all on these medications. So in the media they claim they were "depressed" poor things, while in reality they became insane from being addicted to those anti depressants. It's absolutely crazy that there is not more focus on this in this "enlightening" age.. Ritalin makes you become a monkey, the whole structure of your body changes and you don't know who are anymore. The patient needs LOVE and understanding, work out, eat healthy.
Linda8580 2 years ago 11
@Linda8580 I totally agree with your idea of treatment through exercise, diet, and real loving attention. I have been afflicted by diagnosis of ADD and was prescribed to Ritalin without any personal awareness of the side effects of these drugs, and believe I have suffered stunted growth and possible mental instability, which revolves around depression and low self-esteem. I just feel so angry that only a hand full of people have the humility to see through this easy way out for lazy parents.
arenapower07 11 months ago
Tom is right. Drugs from those mafia companies are destroying our world and most people have no idea that they are day by day being reprogrammed in their soul and mind. Very dangerous to use drugs that affects the mindset you've had your whole life. If Brooke Shields benefits from it - it's because she wants to believe that it did. This is what lots of people say as well that they think drugs make them better, then the next day they think it's destroying them. So basically you are fuc***d up..
Linda8580 2 years ago
Scientology is a money-making cult that destroys peoples lives by brainwashing them.
YourScientoIogy 2 years ago
a tom no le entendí ni michi de lo que dijo pero igual es un churro para mi, tom te comeria a besos uhmm!
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fto2006 2 years ago 9
@fto2006 why are u being upvoted -_- trolls upvoting for other trolls?
sum420body 1 year ago
Google "SOK Kneeophytes" for the Scientology parody that made Tom Cruise cry on MSNBC!
(SOK's leader, children's author C. Spaught-Runn, is vehemently opposed to optometry)
Canaderek 2 years ago
"There's only one remedy for crime -- get rid of the psychs! They are causing it!"
L. Ron Hubbard, HCOB of 6 May 1982 "The Cause of Crime"
Hubbard (and the Church of Scientology) blames Psychiatry for the rise of Hitler and Stalin, World War 2, the Holocaust, the attack on the Twin Towers of the World Trade Centre on 9/11, the Virginia Tech shootings, and other international tragedies.
L. Ron Hubbard had a vendetta against psychiatrists since the APA rejected Dianetics in 1950.
OpenComments 2 years ago
Tom is cleary stating the truth man !
superseyirci 2 years ago 2
1:38 learn from the history! what should be understood, normally u would start off a 'skeptic' to find an answer. yeah there is misinformation , i researched the net from 2007 to 2008 about all the history of medicine to understand smtg real and I did and reality is pretty just as the truth is for everybody to experience and it needs to be simple.
find a way to agree about the truth, evaluate the content if u may! it's easy if u try, naturally
IsOk10 2 years ago
Tom looks like crap hahahaah
YourScientoIogy 2 years ago
The point is that about 90% of the school shooters actually were on anti-depressants or withdrawing from them.
Now, seen the fact that they had the use of antidepressants in common.
Seen the fact that before the mass drugging of children we never had school shootings.
-Seen the fact that even glaxo smithcline acknowledges an increased risk of suicide, what if this increased risk was manifested in these kids?
These drugs fon't even work better then placebo.
Hasstradamus 2 years ago
Step One of the NOTs Valence Technique, "What are you?", is a listing question. It is asked to find the valence the BT or cluster is stuck in (obsessively being), thereby shifting the BT or cluster out of that valence. Sometimes a BT or cluster will answer at first with a wrong item or items. Then there wont be any valence shift, nor will there be any blow.
OpenComments 2 years ago
Finding the correct item (the valence the BT or cluster is obsessively being), will shift the BT or cluster out of that valence, and remaining steps of acknowledging the item, and asking "Who are you?" will produce the cognition: "Im me", and it will blow.
OpenComments 2 years ago
Then 90% of school shooters are depressed.
Maybe that has/had something to do with it?
g0tt0rque 2 years ago 2
There is actually another point that youre not getting. GlazosmithKline knew as early as 1998 that paxil didnt perform better then placebo and had an increased risk of suicide. Yet they decided to hide this. Instead they decided to ghost-write the drug into efficacy, heavily tweak the data as to give a false impression about its effecacy, and send that off to the FDA for approval for treating depression in children.
Hasstradamus 2 years ago
I believe I have given you ample proof that there is a connection between antidepressants use and school shootings. Again, 90% of these kids had the use of antidepressants in common, what else is there to say.
Hasstradamus 2 years ago
If you google: Paxil Study 329: Paroxetine vs Imipramine vs Placebo in Adolecents.
You can read about that whole scam, take your time doing so. I hope that the glaxosmithkline documents youll read will shed some light on the more clandestine operations that the everyday pharmaceutical company employs.
So my question to you is: Why should I acquire critical appraisal skills from an industry thats full of lies, deceit and a misguided concept of marketing?
Hasstradamus 2 years ago
Please tell me that.
Because right now we are finding out what Glaxo SmithKline knew already 10 years ago.
THAT ANTIDEPRESSANTS DONT WORK BETTER THEN PLACEBOS.
(Google: BBC exposes antidepressants)
I guess thats why they had to lie about paxil in the first place, just to make money.
Luckily they are currently under congressional investigation for this sick prank: drugging up chidren with drugs that increase the risk of suicide.
Hasstradamus
Hasstradamus 2 years ago
to be very happy think who created you and why? think think every day
a5a7a5a7a5a7 2 years ago
To: MastaEss
Google: Antidepressant May Raise Suicide Risk
After analyzing data from clinical trials, GlaxoSmithKline warnings to doctors that its antidepressant drug Paxil appears to increase the risk of SUICIDE attempts in some young adults.
Hasstradamus 2 years ago
I read the article and am surprised at how you have cherry-picked those facts which bear most relevance for your arguement. I wonder if your mind is already made up, to which no amount of rational persuasion could make a difference, but i'll have a go anyway:
11 of 3,455 people taking the drug reporte attempted suicide compared with 1 in 1,978 taking placebo.
In other words 0.3% compared with 0.05% - a 6-fold increase. Statistics never lie, but compare the sample sizes... cont.
MastaEss 2 years ago
3,455 is 3/4 times bigger than 1,978. i.e. with a bigger sample size, the chance of there being someone with suicidal tendencies is increased. Besides, an incidence of 0.3% is very low, in fact 'rare' is the word used in the article u pointed out to me.
Also, the clinical trial which reports this finding were not looking to compare signs of suicidal behaviour, hence their findings are as yet inconclusive. The fact that a warning letter was sent out and the label changed is typical... cont.
MastaEss 2 years ago
...of those in the pharmaceutical industry to err on the side of caution, rather than take a risk, however small.
I'm not saying that Paroxetine isn't responsible for an increased risk of suicide, but at the same time, with the information available it's simply impossible to tell.
I could go on forever.
My point is, if you're main source of information is mainstream media, and you lack critical appraisal skills, your opinion is always going to distort what you read to suit your opinions
MastaEss 2 years ago
My responce is up.
Hasstradamus 2 years ago
The company said it had changed the labeling on the drug to reflect the finding of the study, which analyzed clinical trial data involving some 15,000 people. It found that reported suicides attempts were significantly more common in adults who took the drug for depression than in those who received PLACEBO's.
Hasstradamus 2 years ago
So There you have it; Paxil is deadlier then a placebo.
Source : The Wall Street Journal
Souce: GlaxoSmithKline, manufacurer of paxil.
Google: Antidepressant May Raise Suicide Risk To read for yourself.
Hasstradamus
Im out.
Hasstradamus 2 years ago
Oh maaaan...this video is a classic
iliarganda 2 years ago
S3XY BiTCH!!!!!
6SelenaQfan7 2 years ago
School Shooting; Zoloft Antidepressant; 1995-10-12; South Carolina; 15 Year Old Shoots Two Teachers, Killing One: Then Kills Himself
School Shooting; Med For Depression; 2009-03-13
Germany
**16 Dead Including Shooter: Antidepressant Use: Shooter in Treatment For Depression
School Shooting Plot; Med For Depression Withdrawal; 2008-08-28; Texas
**18 Year Old Plots a Columbine School Attack
School Shooting
Luvox/Zoloft Antidepressants; 1999-04-20;Colorado
**COLUMBINE: 15 Dead: 24 Wounded
Hasstradamus 2 years ago
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MastaEss 2 years ago
Hasstradamus,
none of these facts point towards antidepressants as the cause.
It's more likely that these tragedies occured because the subjects were depressed to begin with.
And even if antidepressants were the cause, how come the thousands of people who take them every day don't go on killing sprees?
It angers me when anecdotal evidence is favoured over statistics. None of these points carry much relevance because there is no context.
MastaEss 2 years ago 2
My reaction is up.
Hasstradamus
Hasstradamus 2 years ago
School Shooting; Prozac WITHDRAWAL; 2008-02-15 Illinois.
6 Dead: 15 Wounded: Perpetrator Was in Withdrawal from Med & Acting Erratically
School Shooting
Prozac Antidepressant; 2005-03-24; Minnesota;
10 Dead: 7 Wounded: Dosage Increased One Week before Rampage
School Shooting Paxil [Seroxat] Antidepressant; 2001-03-10
Pennsylvania
**14 Year Old GIRL Shoots & Wounds Classmate at Catholic School;
Hasstradamus 2 years ago
Tom Cruise could not win a debate with a 7th grader. Matt is being kind. Anyone else would have laughed Tom off the stage. Tom was completely lost if Matt tried to bring up any point.
davidm1952 2 years ago
My impression of Tom Cruise. "Mat Mat Mat Mat, Mat Mat. You don't understand. Mat, Mat Mat Mat."
DREW2823 2 years ago
hahahahaha, tom is such a drama clown, lunatic egomaniac, he needs to calm down and get perspective on things.
chichiribichi 2 years ago
"A fanatic is someone who can't change his mind and won't change the subject" - Sir Winston Churchill. Sound familiar?
At the end of the day he just needs to take 'chill pill'... right?!
MastaEss 2 years ago
It's not his fault either, we all perceive the world through distorted eyes, that's one of the things which make us human. He has every right to disagree with psychiatry and Matt has every right to play devil's advocate and while both men are exercising their rights, one thing becomes clear: TC is a fanatic, and fanatics are (to varying degrees) dangerous people.
MastaEss 2 years ago
If that's the case, then his mind was already made up before he did his 'research' which puts a bias on anything he reads. Scientific articles are thorough, and will explore a subject from all angles. I suspect that having read such articles TC has turned a blind eye to anything he considers contradictory to his own prejudiced beliefs, and has 'cherry-picked' those facts which he considers to be in line with them.
MastaEss 2 years ago
Matt has every right to play the devil's advocate in the hope that TC will enlighten him - thats what every journalist does to separate those who are secure and confident about what they believe in, from those who are insecure and respond by being defensive. TC takes the bait and it makes you wonder whether he really believes what he says. In fact he says that he's always disagreed with psychiatry.
MastaEss 2 years ago
notice Tom runs the interview by talking over Matt?Thats an old tactic used by Nixon,, and yes he is brainwashed.. Scientology IS a satanic cult.
kevlar444 2 years ago
poor brainwashed tommy... done the research in Hubbards books. no wonder he's on the wrong track.
web262 2 years ago
matt was being incredibly patient? he's on the today show. it's not even an option to be otherwise. not to mention the fact that he was WRONG, and tom blatantly called him on it. just because tom had the guts to not be passive about an important issue doesn't make him a nut job. he's just got more balls than you.
zhulia 2 years ago
tom cruise is right. nothing he is saying is false, and if you feel the need to say otherwise, prove he is wrong first. do the homework. go learn, be responsible. everything he said was true.
zhulia<