@davros59 Bolts height is actually a disadvantage for 100m. He's not the only tall sprinter, there were others, but only he was able to overcome it. For Ben, that height would never work, as it would change his start and acceleration completely, for the worse. When put in the same era, Ben, with the potential he had, would actually be closer to Bolt than any of the other sprinters today. Explanation continues in the next comment.
Ben's 3.67 30m in Seoul is still not beaten. Bolt had 3.78 in Berlin. At 60m Bolt had 6.31, Ben 6.33.Both reached their top speed at that time and maintaining it is Bolts greatest gift. Ben's Seoul time is 9.72 in reality because he shut down at 80m. If his career didn't come to an end then he would go onto 9.6X for sure (not to mention the faster surfaces today).Bolt would still win at his best, but Ben would sure give him a lot of trouble. But only with the late Charlie Francis in his corner.
@ytubeserb yeah i think you are the only person i have seen who understands the relation between height and sprinting. And i like that you gave good history. I think it could be argued that if Bolt had Johnson's work ethic in the weightroom that bolt would be even greater. But that is all speculation, and it actually has looked like bolt has put on some signficant mass since 2008.
we have a new standard in starts established by ben johsnon he pulls his hands up and hops up on both feet boom look they both leave the ground and he is up and running faster than anyone else he also has the fastest reaction time of anyone on the field and now he is nearly the fastest in the middle carl lewis cannot catch him ben johnson is the best in history without a doubt!
steroids need to be legalised...competition is competition, and everyone will do anything for that extra edge, whether they boost on the substance a few weeks before or a year ago, everyone in sport is using it, in practically every sport. when wil we stop lying to ourselves.
ben johnson AND carl lewis were using banned substances. And ben beat carl. carl was just as much of a cheater as ben .watch bigger,stronger, faster documentary here on youtube.
ben johnson has been held out as the worst drug cheat in sporting history. Yet there are so many others on record who have never been held accountable. I will admit i was 10 years old when Ben got caught out and i was a fan who was utterly disappointed. But, after what has come out over the last couple of decades one cant help but agree that he was just doing what everyone else was. Of course that doesnt make it right, but if that is the only choice you have in order to compete what do you do?
why is it that Ben Johnson has had to suffer for what has always been known to be a notorious drugged up sport. Lewis is on recorded as being caught for using a banned substance, i dont care if it was just cough medicine it was banned. The East Germans are on record as being the worst drug users in the sports history yet there records in some of the women's events still stand. Marion Jones doesn't even cop as much grief.
I though Ben was great, he was an inspirational figure despite the dope...in fact he probably aided the sport in disuading the use of drugs if anything. Just a very exciting athelete with an air of menace - fantastic!
yup it did look like he jumped the gun a tad bit,,9.84 was impressive then, i wonder how he feels when bolt jogs in theolympic heats and betters that time heheh
lol if you look very closely, he actually jumped the gun a tiny bit, but not enough to get a false start...i wonder if this was just luck or if he planned that?
We met Ben Johnson on Saturday, we gave him his space and let him do his thing, but it makes no difference this man is a Canadian and Olympic icon. It was an honour to meet him.
Shame we couldn't have gotten a picture with him in our Leafs jerseys. I saw the race Ben, fastest man alive as far as I'm concerned!!!!
@M7techno no its not the best ever and himself actaully said that it was bad because of 3rd step stumble. u see that he is almost a meter in front at 2 steps and then at 3rd and 4th step he looses again some incaes against lewis
It's funny, 3 or 4 of the other racers were confirmed positive for performance enhancers, yet only Ben was stripped. I know if he had been American he would have never been stripped.
you cant say without drugs because for years no one knew of ben johnsons doping untill the truth came out. so we will see and it aint cheating unless they catch you lol.
In 2000, Dr. Wade Exum unveiled one of the biggest doping cover-ups in sports history when he released a list of 19 American medalists who were allowed to compete in various Olympic Games from 1988 to 2000 despite having failed drug tests. The list also helped to stir up an old controversy. Track and field star Carl Lewis, who was named on Exums list, won the gold medal in the 100M event at the 1988 Seoul Olympic Games because Ben Johnson was disqualified from the event due to steroid use.
the us athletic federation covered up many doping offenses or looked the other way when they knew an american athlete was doped. all the american track and field stars in the 80-90s were doped...same thing with the top athletes from other countries. but the americans were huge hypocrites as they often pointed the finger at the eastern block and called them cheaters, which they obviously were..but the americans forgot to mention their own drug use.
his start looked like it was really close to being a false start, he left as soon as the gun went off. tht was really fast reaction time. his start phase to acceleration phase was amazing. he was acceleration phase was going on until he reached, like the 80 meter mark. and his lifting phase was 20 meters. 5 stars.
he was the best sprinter canada had. we shut down america, but he was using roids. then we had donovan bailey and he shut down america but then he got in to a car crash. :(
motherfuckers we all know he was on roids but that just helps his muscles revoer faster to grow bigger all he did was cut the waiting out of seeing results if he had not used steriods and trained harder he proubably would have still seen the same results so stop hating on a man who has worked harder than you ever will just because he took roids seriously grow up
Give your head a shake, he was the scape goat. In 2003 Dr. Wade Exum, US Olympic Committee's Director released 30,000 pages of documents that show Lewis and another 100 US atheletes tested positive for banned substances, but were allowed to compete in Seoul. Lewis tested 3 times, USOC reversed its ban with a explanation "inadvertent use". Go figure. Later Dick Pound of Drug control for the U.S.O.C. had made a formal statement there was a coverup with respect to the American atheletes..
That's nice, I've seen the film "Bigger, Faster, Stronger" as well. But it doesn't make him a scapegoat. He still cheated and got caught by the IOC. The difference is that the others weren't caught by the IOC.
It appears they were caught years later, they also cheated. My point is who hasn't cheated, is it solveable. Maybe we should just change the forum and model it after the "American Gladiators", then everyone can be on the same playing field. The determining factor would be the athelete with the best doctor. Now you hear about "designer steroids" which are synthesized using Dynamic Combinatorial Chemistry, which are undetectable being developed by some chemist in New York. Fly that flag proud.
LOL he actually said 50 years, I mean at the time 9.83 broke the World Record by a full tenth, they probably didn't think they'd see low9.8 till well into the 21st century
oo yea 4realzz. i thought it was 15 but they said 50 years..haha but thats funny my coach only brought up ben johnsons time because we were talkin bout carl lewis
If all atheletes would use steroids the advantages of steroids would be neutralised. The winners would still win but break world records, and the guy finishing last would still come last, but alot a lot faster!
The start won him the race. He hopped with both legs simultaneously out of the blocks like a bunny rabbit. Lewis actually slightly closed ground until the last ten meters, when he knew he couldn't catch Johnson in time. If it were a 200 meter race, Lewis would certainly have overtook Johnson, as those long legs only have to stride about 8 times vs. Johnson's 10.
Yes, Im aware that Johnson used steroids, and agree with you that he would have not been able to beat Lewis without them. Even being on steroids, the bunny-hop start, however, enabled Ben to get a big enough lead to hold off Lewis in 100 m. Even on roids, Ben wouldn't have been able to beat Lewis at 200 M. That is what is so astonishing about Usain Bolt, he is 6 foot 5 inches tall, and set a 9.72 record in the 100.
Similarily, a 1075 lb. bench press has been achieved now----with roids
Ben Johnson kicks ass. Lets face it most Americans were on drugs by then and almost all Americans who won anything in the 90's early 00's were on drugs too. Because everyone was on drugs it's a fair race! Go BEN!
Yes, yes, yes! Johnson was just a very talented athlete and it still makes me sick to hear Lewis' whining like a cat that's just met a starving wolf! We have one here in the UK, Darren Campbell who's won sod all yet calls Dwain Chambers. Who, after years off on a ban, still comes back and beats every UK competitor into the dirt. You're either a media "luvvie" or you're not. Campbell, Lewis and good old Linford "I've never taken illegal substances to be honest with you" Christie ARE!
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why can't they use lie detectors for sports to see if there doping? they use them in court. i thought steroids have to be used for a while before you test positive.
his starts were amazing..he basically wins when the gun is fired because while the other guys are in transition bj has already gained 3 feet on them from the start alone..no one before or since has a start like that..bj's style is so much nicer to watch then usain bolts, bolts is faster and taller but doesnt look at powerful and elegant as bj..BUT you have to give bolts props cos no one is faster..
idontsignin, how is me cheating on say a Math test the same as Johnson putting drugs into his body that are designed to boost animals before slaughter, then going out and breaking records and winning money ? Oh right, all cheating is the same ! Gotcha
Go watch ''Ben Johnson: Lost Seoul'' and tell me what the narrator says. Then you can call him an idiot as those were his words. I wasn't talking about stanozolol, where did I say that ?
nobody can have a go at ben johnson cause they would be hypocrites if they do, afterall everybody has cheated at something in their life. i have forgiven him for doing it cause the only person that ben hurt was himself not his country or anybody else, when you go into athletics at an early age you compete for yourself nobody else
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Ben Johnson (The Jamaican)had all his awards stripped from York University. What an idiot to take drugs. He pointed a starter piston at motorists shorty after this race and Toroto police had to go after him. An NFL team offered him a tryout but he refused.
Now he is totally broke, so broke he can't afford drugs. Poor Ben.
What I've never understood was...that he's always denied taking steroids. But there's never been that many Canadians backing him and believing him. You'd think Canadians would be on his side.
thats cause its believed to be said that the americans spiked his drink and even ben and his coach charlie both say that the Stanozolol (steroids) was placed there and he had no control over it....
but i mean even 20 years later people dont even know what really happen. all i know is that car lewis was also on steroids. but they covered that shit up
Canada is not like america in terms of protecting there athletes..... America understands one thing. If our athletes look bad WE look bad.... So they do what they can to protect them...
In Canada the idea was... "Hes Canadian until he looks bad. At that point hell be Jamaican again." And livng in Canada as aJamaican born Canadian sprinting. I can assure you, they did just that.. He was Canadian all the way until he was caught then the media called him Jamaican.
Perhaps a Sweedish kid raised in Jamaica would benefit somewhat from the lifestyle, but he would still lose against Jamaican athletes.
Jamaicans genes are coded to produce big people, they are the result of millions of years of evolution. Changing someones lifestyle can't make them as big as a Jamaican, and Bolt would not be as fast as he is if he was not 6.5.
Look at Lennox Lewis- he lived in Britain, but his heritage was Jamaican. That's one of the things that helped make him a great Heavyweight Champion- his size. He was HUGE.
A Jamaican lifestyle would prob help, but I think you're genes and natural talent is the main ingredient.
Jamaica put out more fast people than any other country. per capita -
The original Jamaicans (arawak 1rst nations) were not of african decent. The Jamaicans of African decent have only been in Jamaica for about 200 years. its not millions of years of evolution. Its only a coup[le hundred. Wich makes me believe that an immediate lifestyle change is key.
Jared Connaughton a white canadian sprinter (so a white guy with spinting talent) has a 100 meter record time of 10.13 seconds.
Now if he was the same person brought up in Jamaica from birth lived and ate as the Reular jamaican sprinter Id bet hed be able to shav off2 to 3 tenths of a second. Wich would put his personal best at 9.83 or 9.93 wich would have given him second place at bejing at 9.83 or third at 9.93 wich is only 2 tenths of a second from his P.B
yah! My fastest is a 10.80sec (and a 10.64 hand time, 21.43 200m hand time, 21.78 200m electric)
I got MAD love for the white sprinters! Thats why I have trouble with this genetic argument. Its stating, no matter how hard the white guys try thell never beat those certian westernized africans (like the afro Americans and the west indians).
as For Ben, he could be right. BUT performance enhancers does not mean steriods
FLO JO is the luckiest woman in sprinting. no woman will ever beat that time.
Yeah, just search 'Frost Ben Johnson' it's interesting. I'm 28, as a youth I loved track as a participant and fan, Beijing got me back into it after my interest drifted in the early Noughties. What put me off was I thought everyone was on drugs. It's not about athleticism if they're cheating.
but with Bolt, because of his stride size it kinda makes sense how a sprinter that big could run that fast. So he's rejuvenated my interest, and the sport heh. With Bolt you can see he is not as explosive as Ben Johnson, he is just natural flow.
'Course, they can never prove for definite they are 100% clean.. look at Marion Jones!
I was surprised but also not. She was on enhancers her whole career but her 1997 WC stuff still stands. Fuck her.
Carl Lewis admitted taking stuff a few years ago, and Flo Jo- like you say very lucky. No one will beat 10.49. She died at age 38, obviously from the roids, maybe not so lucky.
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They were all juiced up then and now...Ben Johnson set a record no-one equalled for a decade...what a champion!!! If he had the USA written on his shirt he would never have got caught, just like Carl Lewis never had to give back any of his steriod induced medals!
not really. carl lewis was never caught with Stanozolol, which builds up muscles real fast without adding on weight. What you are referring to is a 2001 study the was published that found 100 american athletes with 3 particular banned substance where was one was found in over the counter cold medication. And it was proved it was inadvertant, since the stimulant improves very little of the conditioning of the athletes
Ben Johnson was robbed. Carl Lewis's blood sample was possitive as well but it got burried.
CraigSips 1 week ago
the race was fixed because johnson was tested after and came positive for steroids.....that wasnt his healthy diet that was the juice of steroids
steven3662 2 weeks ago
Now you don't have to RUN at all, g'BOO.
BillyJimOMFG 1 month ago
The SHAME. Naughty.
BillyJimOMFG 1 month ago
If Ben Johnson and Usain Bolt were the same height, BJ would kick his ass!
davros59 5 months ago
@davros59 Bolts height is actually a disadvantage for 100m. He's not the only tall sprinter, there were others, but only he was able to overcome it. For Ben, that height would never work, as it would change his start and acceleration completely, for the worse. When put in the same era, Ben, with the potential he had, would actually be closer to Bolt than any of the other sprinters today. Explanation continues in the next comment.
ytubeserb 3 months ago
Ben's 3.67 30m in Seoul is still not beaten. Bolt had 3.78 in Berlin. At 60m Bolt had 6.31, Ben 6.33.Both reached their top speed at that time and maintaining it is Bolts greatest gift. Ben's Seoul time is 9.72 in reality because he shut down at 80m. If his career didn't come to an end then he would go onto 9.6X for sure (not to mention the faster surfaces today).Bolt would still win at his best, but Ben would sure give him a lot of trouble. But only with the late Charlie Francis in his corner.
ytubeserb 3 months ago
@ytubeserb yeah i think you are the only person i have seen who understands the relation between height and sprinting. And i like that you gave good history. I think it could be argued that if Bolt had Johnson's work ethic in the weightroom that bolt would be even greater. But that is all speculation, and it actually has looked like bolt has put on some signficant mass since 2008.
PowerSprinter 1 month ago
BEN JOHNSON the Greatest sprinter who ever lived,drugs or no drugs..
thomasstanners1967 5 months ago
@thomasstanners1967 all the top guys use drugs
stone8675309 2 weeks ago
@ShannonKesler i saw him at my old highschools track a few hours ago
MrMbogza 6 months ago
@ShannonKesler yea so did i where were you sudbury????
nhl09gosensgo 7 months ago
ben JOHNSTON STAYED IN A HOTEL THAT I WENT IN HE HELD THE DOOR OPEN FOR ME HE WAS IN CANADA IN SUDBURY
nhl09gosensgo 7 months ago
Lost his medal due to steroid use.
ricardorn06 8 months ago
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pchilst 9 months ago
dááááááále Fredeniiiiiiiiiiiilson!!!!!
pchilst 9 months ago
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pchilst 9 months ago
someone get carl lewis a tissue
Eaglesfanmd 9 months ago 2
dint he get his medal taken of him for roids use
davidw220 10 months ago
@davidw220 ofc it was taken away
MrBusunglueck 9 months ago
Anabolic!
braziliandoc08 11 months ago
steriods!
SkylarkGSX 11 months ago
we have a new standard in starts established by ben johsnon he pulls his hands up and hops up on both feet boom look they both leave the ground and he is up and running faster than anyone else he also has the fastest reaction time of anyone on the field and now he is nearly the fastest in the middle carl lewis cannot catch him ben johnson is the best in history without a doubt!
samsonidis 11 months ago
steroids need to be legalised...competition is competition, and everyone will do anything for that extra edge, whether they boost on the substance a few weeks before or a year ago, everyone in sport is using it, in practically every sport. when wil we stop lying to ourselves.
spartan1893 11 months ago
Winstrol does amazing things.... sigh....
661cwb 1 year ago
good lord he just popd out of the blocks, he looked like he surprised himself
fiestyhamster 1 year ago
Unreal reaction and start...Just unreal.
ThomasRiekki 1 year ago
ben johnson AND carl lewis were using banned substances. And ben beat carl. carl was just as much of a cheater as ben .watch bigger,stronger, faster documentary here on youtube.
hybridman 1 year ago
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@sean21 The Spanish language was "born" in Basque lands in northern Spain when the Basques and the Romans who were livin in harmony came up with it
XJorgeLorenzoSpain1X 1 year ago
this could have been a 9.72 on a mondotrack
puljacina 1 year ago
@puljacina no that tracks dont help so much maybe 0.05 or something but not that much
fightjunge24 1 year ago
he started like a fuckin panther,unique but amazing technique!!!
puljacina 1 year ago
ben johnson has been held out as the worst drug cheat in sporting history. Yet there are so many others on record who have never been held accountable. I will admit i was 10 years old when Ben got caught out and i was a fan who was utterly disappointed. But, after what has come out over the last couple of decades one cant help but agree that he was just doing what everyone else was. Of course that doesnt make it right, but if that is the only choice you have in order to compete what do you do?
aussiescottyf1 1 year ago
why is it that Ben Johnson has had to suffer for what has always been known to be a notorious drugged up sport. Lewis is on recorded as being caught for using a banned substance, i dont care if it was just cough medicine it was banned. The East Germans are on record as being the worst drug users in the sports history yet there records in some of the women's events still stand. Marion Jones doesn't even cop as much grief.
aussiescottyf1 1 year ago
Give some of that dope...I'm behind schedule at work...LOL
patlascrap67 1 year ago
@patlascrap67 he use vinstroll
fakii 1 year ago
I though Ben was great, he was an inspirational figure despite the dope...in fact he probably aided the sport in disuading the use of drugs if anything. Just a very exciting athelete with an air of menace - fantastic!
mark1007 1 year ago
i agree @ jholland5357..it seems as if he jumped the gun..
joeudr 1 year ago
Anyone else see the guy turn invisible? I heard no one has seen him since this race.
AlucardZero 1 year ago
@AlucardZero invisible?!?!?!. I see him every week at york. in toronto track and feild center hes there every week for practice. hes a coach
blacksoilder10 1 year ago
@blacksoilder10 I meant the guy in lane 2 disappeared in the video.
AlucardZero 1 year ago
@AlucardZero oh him yeah, he got vapourized after the race :(
blacksoilder10 1 year ago
@AlucardZero He still runnnnnnning !!!! LOL
patlascrap67 1 year ago
yup it did look like he jumped the gun a tad bit,,9.84 was impressive then, i wonder how he feels when bolt jogs in theolympic heats and betters that time heheh
blackbumbo 1 year ago
lol if you look very closely, he actually jumped the gun a tiny bit, but not enough to get a false start...i wonder if this was just luck or if he planned that?
goldenchocolate 1 year ago
A joke! Hahaha he took steroids the f*** cheater!
superchunk1234 1 year ago
Todos usaban anabolicos, carl lewis tambien nada mas que salio a llorar porque perdio.
JDEG100 1 year ago
el usaba anabolicos vale vergaa en pocas palabras sus victorias son falsas xD pinchi vato transa
alejhandromz 2 years ago
Ben Johnson is my hero.
theamazingchampion 2 years ago
We met Ben Johnson on Saturday, we gave him his space and let him do his thing, but it makes no difference this man is a Canadian and Olympic icon. It was an honour to meet him.
Shame we couldn't have gotten a picture with him in our Leafs jerseys. I saw the race Ben, fastest man alive as far as I'm concerned!!!!
Atomicbuckethead 2 years ago
i wish i had a start like that one...
jlavileze 2 years ago
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tietajajoshua 2 years ago
He rape the star, did he..?
Sdelosinfiernos 2 years ago
Ben looked like he jumped the GUN.
jholland5357 2 years ago 8
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them slow compaired to bolt..
oneword11 2 years ago
WRONG... its the best start ever
M7techno 2 years ago 19
@M7techno no its not the best ever and himself actaully said that it was bad because of 3rd step stumble. u see that he is almost a meter in front at 2 steps and then at 3rd and 4th step he looses again some incaes against lewis
fightjunge24 1 year ago
the guy in lane 2 should have won gold...he was the only one who didnt use steroids in this race. LOL did he even finish the race?
zunkfunkt 2 years ago
It's funny, 3 or 4 of the other racers were confirmed positive for performance enhancers, yet only Ben was stripped. I know if he had been American he would have never been stripped.
NeoOsiris19 2 years ago 3
you are so right man
M7techno 2 years ago
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There all on drugs
toneoffuel 2 years ago
21 years later... Usian Bolt (without drugs!)... 9.58!!!
Mortheu 2 years ago
Without drugs my ass.
Fact is that the WADA does not use all available methods to detect doping. If they would, noone in top sport could win.
shevegen 2 years ago
I agree! In any sport! Including chess! But he (Bolt) is a true phenomenon anyway.
Mortheu 2 years ago
I always like to think of jonathan edwards, no way a skinny white christian was on drugs.
joku73 2 years ago
thats pretty racist
trackextrordinaire 2 years ago 2
christians believe in the tooth fairy
tiptiptapable 2 years ago
oh right do they believe in the tooth fairy now? your comment has no relevance here homo.
joku73 2 years ago
you cant say without drugs because for years no one knew of ben johnsons doping untill the truth came out. so we will see and it aint cheating unless they catch you lol.
whoodkid 2 years ago
false start, see between 0.48 and 0.49 slowly, his arm lifted up before the shot..
sarrafeiro 2 years ago
In 2000, Dr. Wade Exum unveiled one of the biggest doping cover-ups in sports history when he released a list of 19 American medalists who were allowed to compete in various Olympic Games from 1988 to 2000 despite having failed drug tests. The list also helped to stir up an old controversy. Track and field star Carl Lewis, who was named on Exums list, won the gold medal in the 100M event at the 1988 Seoul Olympic Games because Ben Johnson was disqualified from the event due to steroid use.
rmasi001 2 years ago 2
the us athletic federation covered up many doping offenses or looked the other way when they knew an american athlete was doped. all the american track and field stars in the 80-90s were doped...same thing with the top athletes from other countries. but the americans were huge hypocrites as they often pointed the finger at the eastern block and called them cheaters, which they obviously were..but the americans forgot to mention their own drug use.
lordraven1980 2 years ago 4
Very true.
rmasi001 2 years ago 3
9.84 thats good but 9.69 that better and 9.58 thats SICK b
deegottattsova 2 years ago
Iss de Ben Johnson jetz eichendlich en Necher odder en Kanadier ?
FrankTheTank4you 2 years ago
this vid makes me crave cheese balls
GBGC HOMIE
captainkabob23 2 years ago
tht was an amazing start! BJ was GONE!
his start looked like it was really close to being a false start, he left as soon as the gun went off. tht was really fast reaction time. his start phase to acceleration phase was amazing. he was acceleration phase was going on until he reached, like the 80 meter mark. and his lifting phase was 20 meters. 5 stars.
Th3AmericanDr34m 2 years ago
the audio is slightly off. Notice how they come up just before 'set' is said? His reaction time is .129 I think. Carl's was
.19x
rlopez8930 2 years ago
It was a false start..........he took drugzzzzzz
tubemech 2 years ago
Even though he used steroids, that was one hell of a start!
marmin88 2 years ago 3
the best of all was Ben Johnson all took roids is not willing to take the recalled Carl Lewis
tayna0102 2 years ago
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vdven 2 years ago
who is number 6??
browin44 2 years ago
he was the best sprinter canada had. we shut down america, but he was using roids. then we had donovan bailey and he shut down america but then he got in to a car crash. :(
whitehawk38 2 years ago
they all use roids
avatarion 2 years ago
true Carl Lewis was also doped up
aridep 2 years ago 3
hard work + winnstro = the worlds fastest man!
ellnene 2 years ago
motherfuckers we all know he was on roids but that just helps his muscles revoer faster to grow bigger all he did was cut the waiting out of seeing results if he had not used steriods and trained harder he proubably would have still seen the same results so stop hating on a man who has worked harder than you ever will just because he took roids seriously grow up
bmmmar 2 years ago
Don't make excuses for him. He cheated, and he couldn't have done it without 'roids.
OmedDC 2 years ago
Give your head a shake, he was the scape goat. In 2003 Dr. Wade Exum, US Olympic Committee's Director released 30,000 pages of documents that show Lewis and another 100 US atheletes tested positive for banned substances, but were allowed to compete in Seoul. Lewis tested 3 times, USOC reversed its ban with a explanation "inadvertent use". Go figure. Later Dick Pound of Drug control for the U.S.O.C. had made a formal statement there was a coverup with respect to the American atheletes..
porschemaes 2 years ago 4
That's nice, I've seen the film "Bigger, Faster, Stronger" as well. But it doesn't make him a scapegoat. He still cheated and got caught by the IOC. The difference is that the others weren't caught by the IOC.
OmedDC 2 years ago
It appears they were caught years later, they also cheated. My point is who hasn't cheated, is it solveable. Maybe we should just change the forum and model it after the "American Gladiators", then everyone can be on the same playing field. The determining factor would be the athelete with the best doctor. Now you hear about "designer steroids" which are synthesized using Dynamic Combinatorial Chemistry, which are undetectable being developed by some chemist in New York. Fly that flag proud.
porschemaes 2 years ago
Neither could Carl...
ippikin 2 years ago
haha for the next 15 years?? this is the 1st time ive seen this race so dey lying haha
ramon103t 2 years ago
cause he was on roids.
airuhn 2 years ago
LOL he actually said 50 years, I mean at the time 9.83 broke the World Record by a full tenth, they probably didn't think they'd see low9.8 till well into the 21st century
bossofalltime 2 years ago
oo yea 4realzz. i thought it was 15 but they said 50 years..haha but thats funny my coach only brought up ben johnsons time because we were talkin bout carl lewis
ramon103t 2 years ago
noooo mames, impresionante¡¡¡¡¡, holly shit, amazing¡¡¡¡¡ great race
isramaguire 2 years ago
LOL look at 0:52 the guy who is all the way in the back. What country is he from, cuz they gotta be slow if he's the fastest they got
crazylazystacy 2 years ago
He got injured mid-race.
bossofalltime 2 years ago 2
Lane 1 looked to have a good start also.
rich187113 2 years ago
puras esteroides!!
mojonflojo 2 years ago
If all atheletes would use steroids the advantages of steroids would be neutralised. The winners would still win but break world records, and the guy finishing last would still come last, but alot a lot faster!
secularviewer2 2 years ago 2
The start won him the race. He hopped with both legs simultaneously out of the blocks like a bunny rabbit. Lewis actually slightly closed ground until the last ten meters, when he knew he couldn't catch Johnson in time. If it were a 200 meter race, Lewis would certainly have overtook Johnson, as those long legs only have to stride about 8 times vs. Johnson's 10.
taghl 2 years ago
OBVIOUSLY, the STEROIDS won him the race! Watch the movie, "Bigger Stronger Faster"
johnnybravo1180 2 years ago
Yes, Im aware that Johnson used steroids, and agree with you that he would have not been able to beat Lewis without them. Even being on steroids, the bunny-hop start, however, enabled Ben to get a big enough lead to hold off Lewis in 100 m. Even on roids, Ben wouldn't have been able to beat Lewis at 200 M. That is what is so astonishing about Usain Bolt, he is 6 foot 5 inches tall, and set a 9.72 record in the 100.
Similarily, a 1075 lb. bench press has been achieved now----with roids
taghl 2 years ago
usain ran 9.69.
ilkkavu 2 years ago
holy fucking shit, how was his start so good?
what the hell did he do?
mjdFT9 3 years ago
steroids.. lol
alipasha001 3 years ago
lots of strength and power!
lorddark777 2 years ago
Great coaching, exceptional strength, and the complete calm under pressure.
theedge65 2 years ago
he's on drugz dumbass!
swaGGer2k10 2 years ago
Ben Johnson kicks ass. Lets face it most Americans were on drugs by then and almost all Americans who won anything in the 90's early 00's were on drugs too. Because everyone was on drugs it's a fair race! Go BEN!
HBOMB99 3 years ago 2
Hahaha you're an ass,that was hilarious.
Badin10tions 3 years ago
It's true. All Olympians are on steroids. Ask any former trainer.
There's a big business in coming up with undetectable steroids.
ejohnwright 2 years ago
Yes, yes, yes! Johnson was just a very talented athlete and it still makes me sick to hear Lewis' whining like a cat that's just met a starving wolf! We have one here in the UK, Darren Campbell who's won sod all yet calls Dwain Chambers. Who, after years off on a ban, still comes back and beats every UK competitor into the dirt. You're either a media "luvvie" or you're not. Campbell, Lewis and good old Linford "I've never taken illegal substances to be honest with you" Christie ARE!
tyrant1505 2 years ago
I cheetah.....lol
rockwood03 3 years ago
steroids
xfactorsixteen 3 years ago
lol ben johnson is a fat gay guy at my school
m1grand125 3 years ago
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Ben Johnson was the first victim.
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Truth666 3 years ago
Die.
easternslavic 3 years ago
Truth666 there is some truth in that.
Loadfaster 3 years ago
why can't they use lie detectors for sports to see if there doping? they use them in court. i thought steroids have to be used for a while before you test positive.
clayton5150 3 years ago
his starts were amazing..he basically wins when the gun is fired because while the other guys are in transition bj has already gained 3 feet on them from the start alone..no one before or since has a start like that..bj's style is so much nicer to watch then usain bolts, bolts is faster and taller but doesnt look at powerful and elegant as bj..BUT you have to give bolts props cos no one is faster..
sprintbass 3 years ago 2
idontsignin, how is me cheating on say a Math test the same as Johnson putting drugs into his body that are designed to boost animals before slaughter, then going out and breaking records and winning money ? Oh right, all cheating is the same ! Gotcha
bossofalltime 3 years ago
Seriously how is it even nearly approaching the same level ?
bossofalltime 3 years ago
@bossofalltime
"drugs designed to boost animals before slaughter"
you are a fucking idiot go read some studies on stanzolol and what it does and has always done
AMpufnstuf 3 years ago
Go watch ''Ben Johnson: Lost Seoul'' and tell me what the narrator says. Then you can call him an idiot as those were his words. I wasn't talking about stanozolol, where did I say that ?
bossofalltime 3 years ago
nobody can have a go at ben johnson cause they would be hypocrites if they do, afterall everybody has cheated at something in their life. i have forgiven him for doing it cause the only person that ben hurt was himself not his country or anybody else, when you go into athletics at an early age you compete for yourself nobody else
idontsignin 3 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Ben Johnson (The Jamaican)had all his awards stripped from York University. What an idiot to take drugs. He pointed a starter piston at motorists shorty after this race and Toroto police had to go after him. An NFL team offered him a tryout but he refused.
Now he is totally broke, so broke he can't afford drugs. Poor Ben.
Normalman50 3 years ago
What a start!
bullboy13 3 years ago 3
What I've never understood was...that he's always denied taking steroids. But there's never been that many Canadians backing him and believing him. You'd think Canadians would be on his side.
kingeglinton1 3 years ago
thats cause its believed to be said that the americans spiked his drink and even ben and his coach charlie both say that the Stanozolol (steroids) was placed there and he had no control over it....
but i mean even 20 years later people dont even know what really happen. all i know is that car lewis was also on steroids. but they covered that shit up
fyouhataz 3 years ago 2
fyouhataz.... I REMEMBER THAT! Good memory
Loadfaster 3 years ago
ill tell you why kingeglinton1
Canada is not like america in terms of protecting there athletes..... America understands one thing. If our athletes look bad WE look bad.... So they do what they can to protect them...
In Canada the idea was... "Hes Canadian until he looks bad. At that point hell be Jamaican again." And livng in Canada as aJamaican born Canadian sprinting. I can assure you, they did just that.. He was Canadian all the way until he was caught then the media called him Jamaican.
Loadfaster 3 years ago 2
Greatest sprinter ever. Pure power. He sold the sport, not the shoes.
acarch 3 years ago 2
sell out jamaica..
blackTone87 3 years ago
He jumped da gun!
kloudbreak 3 years ago
he didnt jump the gun
DeathByDrumstik 3 years ago
The difference between the american and canadian olympic committees are the americans protect their athletes, while the canadians expose them
dell111 3 years ago
dell111 WORD! ON THE BLOODCLATT NAIL! Fuck man CANT agree more!!!!! That is it to the fullest!
Ill give America that. In cases such as this, Americans will protect there people AND reputation!
On a side note....
My God man... I dont even care about the drgus right now...
Look at how Ben Does that... FOR REAL! ITs amazing.. ve never seen that kind of start EVER attempted again.....
Yeah if Ben johnson was American hed be seen right now as a hero....
Loadfaster 3 years ago
Can't stand Carl Lweis. shows off, rood, arogent, boasty. Ben is down to earth, and cool.
diamondcalves 3 years ago
look how much faster he got out bum DOPING"!
Ruchsacksepp 3 years ago
Ben Johnson was the first victim of the Doping conspiracy - multi-purpose weapon for several agendas
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Truth666 3 years ago
Truth666, dude. You serious with that?
Hey man, just side note- Im Jamaican born Canadian who sprinted. (10.80sec 100m is respectable, would have came in 2nd womens 100m bejing)
Id like your opinion on something.
I find Jamaicans will say that it is food and life style that gives Jamaicans there speed. Basically (culutre)
I often find white westeners will say "no. Genetics is the reason there fast."
Why is that? It scares me a bit. They wont look at lifestyle. Its GENES as far as they see
Loadfaster 3 years ago
Hi there.
I think what people mean by 'genetics' is that Jamaicans are huge, really tall. Thus Powell and Bolt have longer legs and bigger strides.
Comparatively Ben Johnson was a short ass. I think Johnson's looked faster tho, because of his shorter legs it means his strides were faster.
So yea, I think it comes down to genetics that the Jamaicans are best.
RadioactiveBlood08 3 years ago
hmmm. again I think its lifestyle. You eat and live like a Jamaican youll be faster.
my peronall opinion my genes can be manipulated by lifestyle.
I hear what your saying and I see the logic involved. but I think genetics is the EFFECT but not the CAUSE.
What causes the Jamaicans to be "genetically" faster? FOOD LIFESTYLE. Culture is the cause. Genes are the effect.
You take a Swedish kid. have him grow up in Jamaica eating and living the sulture. He'll be faster than if he lived in sweden.
Loadfaster 3 years ago
Perhaps a Sweedish kid raised in Jamaica would benefit somewhat from the lifestyle, but he would still lose against Jamaican athletes.
Jamaicans genes are coded to produce big people, they are the result of millions of years of evolution. Changing someones lifestyle can't make them as big as a Jamaican, and Bolt would not be as fast as he is if he was not 6.5.
RadioactiveBlood08 3 years ago
Look at Lennox Lewis- he lived in Britain, but his heritage was Jamaican. That's one of the things that helped make him a great Heavyweight Champion- his size. He was HUGE.
A Jamaican lifestyle would prob help, but I think you're genes and natural talent is the main ingredient.
What about Ben Johnson's start, frikkin insane!
RadioactiveBlood08 3 years ago
Jamaica put out more fast people than any other country. per capita -
The original Jamaicans (arawak 1rst nations) were not of african decent. The Jamaicans of African decent have only been in Jamaica for about 200 years. its not millions of years of evolution. Its only a coup[le hundred. Wich makes me believe that an immediate lifestyle change is key.
Loadfaster 3 years ago
Ah, ok not millions of years then.
I think there is something in what both of us are saying.
RadioactiveBlood08 3 years ago
ok ok check out this analogy.
Jared Connaughton a white canadian sprinter (so a white guy with spinting talent) has a 100 meter record time of 10.13 seconds.
Now if he was the same person brought up in Jamaica from birth lived and ate as the Reular jamaican sprinter Id bet hed be able to shav off2 to 3 tenths of a second. Wich would put his personal best at 9.83 or 9.93 wich would have given him second place at bejing at 9.83 or third at 9.93 wich is only 2 tenths of a second from his P.B
Loadfaster 3 years ago
Hey I'm a white guy, I can sprint!
Heh, I'm ok. I could do 11 seconds last time I checked.
Have you seen Ben Johnson on Frost from October last year? Search it on here. It's pretty interesting.
Ben theorizes that all sprinters at top level today are on performance enhancers. When he was running he said they all were. We know Carl Lewis was.
RadioactiveBlood08 3 years ago
yah! My fastest is a 10.80sec (and a 10.64 hand time, 21.43 200m hand time, 21.78 200m electric)
I got MAD love for the white sprinters! Thats why I have trouble with this genetic argument. Its stating, no matter how hard the white guys try thell never beat those certian westernized africans (like the afro Americans and the west indians).
as For Ben, he could be right. BUT performance enhancers does not mean steriods
FLO JO is the luckiest woman in sprinting. no woman will ever beat that time.
Loadfaster 3 years ago
Nice times.
Yeah, just search 'Frost Ben Johnson' it's interesting. I'm 28, as a youth I loved track as a participant and fan, Beijing got me back into it after my interest drifted in the early Noughties. What put me off was I thought everyone was on drugs. It's not about athleticism if they're cheating.
RadioactiveBlood08 3 years ago
but with Bolt, because of his stride size it kinda makes sense how a sprinter that big could run that fast. So he's rejuvenated my interest, and the sport heh. With Bolt you can see he is not as explosive as Ben Johnson, he is just natural flow.
RadioactiveBlood08 3 years ago
'Course, they can never prove for definite they are 100% clean.. look at Marion Jones!
I was surprised but also not. She was on enhancers her whole career but her 1997 WC stuff still stands. Fuck her.
Carl Lewis admitted taking stuff a few years ago, and Flo Jo- like you say very lucky. No one will beat 10.49. She died at age 38, obviously from the roids, maybe not so lucky.
RadioactiveBlood08 3 years ago
Ben Johnson Canadian steroid user = caught
CArl lewis American steroid user = not caught
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Truth666 3 years ago
They were all juiced up then and now...Ben Johnson set a record no-one equalled for a decade...what a champion!!! If he had the USA written on his shirt he would never have got caught, just like Carl Lewis never had to give back any of his steriod induced medals!
billyelliot1975 3 years ago
Ben is still making money off his win though. check out his Cheetah energy drink commercial... its on Youtube. Funny but true!!!
msalm001 3 years ago
did see that start!!!!!!!
pssssssss 3 years ago
The greatest athletes of all time are going to be Michael Johnson and Usain Bolt. Clean as a whistle and great personalities in their own unique ways
nonstopgenius 3 years ago
mann Carl shoulda won that all the way
damn i hate steroid users such as BEN JOHNSON
ibe2steppin 3 years ago
You can add Carl to the list as well, he was lucky that he was not caught then, thanks to USOA
nonstopgenius 3 years ago
Ben Johnson got outta that gate quick man .... that technique he used was awesome
funkyflights 3 years ago
outta? what is it?
Tommywise 3 years ago
Yo watch that start in slow moe, he LITTERALLY has taken 2 steps to his one.
for real watch in sloe moe or pause it and look, there is a 2 steps to carls 1,
Loadfaster 3 years ago
Yeah Ben had a seriously amazing technique for getting outta the gate... one of a kind...
funkyflights 3 years ago
how does Carl Lewis not really test positive or negative. Anyway I know he did he is a fake
EvilerPython 3 years ago
the fastest!
chrisalchris 3 years ago
Carl never got caught and was tested the same way BJ was, so till today Carl is still faster then Ben Dopping Johnson
Bravo USA
Caznavour 3 years ago
bravo usa??? hahahaha
ardiesken 3 years ago
carl lewis also got caught but nothing was ever made of it
dell111 3 years ago
not really. carl lewis was never caught with Stanozolol, which builds up muscles real fast without adding on weight. What you are referring to is a 2001 study the was published that found 100 american athletes with 3 particular banned substance where was one was found in over the counter cold medication. And it was proved it was inadvertant, since the stimulant improves very little of the conditioning of the athletes
nader85021 3 years ago
most of those runners were on roids, ben just took the heat. Still, even on steroids, its impressive
dannyboy885 3 years ago
Ben = cool
chookter1 3 years ago
Carl Lewis Cheated to at the olympic games
EvilerPython 3 years ago