Tae Kwon Do - Ge Baek - front view

[Rebelegend]

Dude i wish youd slow down :L

[nghoaivan2]

@Rebelegend : when you are getting old, the power is OK but the speed decline very quickly ... I must work on it :-)

[gallowphoto]

Please tell me this is "your" interpretation of Ge-Beak?

It's a very interesting performance of the Tul but not very close at all to the original Tul. By changing the kicks and blocks you have taken the meaning from the pattern.

[nghoaivan2]

It's an old version (1970's) with some personal contributions, wich may lead to uncommon applications. That's the richness of martial arts : always dicover new possibilities. Thanks for your comment

[viewer1964]

@nghoaivan2 Sorry but this is not an old version, 70's or not. This looks like Karate techniques(which are fine) in a Taekwon-Do pattern.

[Dwarfadinn]

two things first off the kata is a beautiful kata when performed properly, there were a couple of times during when you let your hands just kinda hang there like limp fish that i didnt like. Howerver, for his size the speed he performs this is suberb, if he were a bigger gentleman than slower and more power would be in order

[YANNISHOLLA]

Hmm... Normally I would yell and say this whole form sux eggs. But... some schools have different teaching methods so mine is obviously different. However, one thing that always stays the same is that.. ITS A DAMN TWISTING KICK, JESUS CHRIST.... NOT A FRONT KICK!

[nghoaivan2]

Yes, you are absolutely right : it must be a twisting kick in the right form. Sometimes I make a front kick, sometimes a twisting kick. Just to change ...

[ninjastorm]

Interesting, my school preforms our Hyungs like Karate Kata so alot of people say that the way I do it is wrong also. I am a pratictioner of both shotokan and ITF Taekwon-Do, though they are diffrent they have many simularities. Much respect to all style of TKD, though I do prefer the old 60's and 70's version because there is no sign wave, just natural body formation

[PELUSIJAINABAY]

very speed ohhhhhhhhhh ITF taekwon do to be fast but this is very very well is very real movement

[imissxxxxx]

He was powerful in performing Ge Baek but he can be better if he slowed down a bit. BTW the hyung or tul doesn't look that nice

[operlambsotee]

He is performing the thank You Lotus to HOnda katana

[miekemeike17]

sorry, but my English is very bad, and I hope that you can understand it.

Hmm is this ITF Taekwon-do? I don't think so..

Witch style is this?? =O

But the Gae-Baek is a beautiful tul.. and my opinion is that it is this way practised, which it is terribly bad.. i don't mean it bad to the person who peform this pattern..

I practise ITF taekwon-do, and i understand that there are other tyles, but it is very bad that people learn the 'wrong' way of taekwon-do..

Thats what i want to say!

[nghoaivan2]

That's the way we practised Tae Kwon Do before ITF, in the 60's and 70's. No sine wave, quick action and reaction ... Other ways of practice is, of course, useful. Just ask yourself why you practice this way, what is your aim : power, speed, balance, calm ... You can also change your aim, and your way of practice, or adopt many ways alternately.

[nastics101]

good thats a geat pattern

[sipak]

good, You used the Karate Kime method. it is an explosive attack to the target using the appropriate technique and the maximum of force in the lesser possible time.

it influences it of the Tang soo of the one in the execution of the forms, took off this of the Taekwondo, having many pauses in the exchanges of the attack bases and defense

[nghoaivan2]

Kime is one of the four pillars of the power theory : Ochi, Tame, Kime and Jime (in japaneese). Ochi : falling down when you strike, like sine wave in ITF but less marked. Tame : tension (especially the hip), then release when strike. Kime : sudden stop when hit the target. Jime : all that, with all the parts of the body keeped in relation. Thanks for your comment.

[sipak]

but, your school is karate or taekwondo?

[nghoaivan2]

I am quite oecumenical : TKD, Aïkido, ShaoLin south style then North style, Quan Ky Do, Tai Chi Sun and Chen styles, Shotokan, ShitoRyu, Tang Lang Chuan (my favorite style). My most recent conversion is Full Contact Karate, with Dominique Valera ...

[sipak]

Full Contact Karate like kyokushin?

[nghoaivan2]

Kyokushin rules is like TKD old rules of combat : all was allowed without control, except hand attacks on face wich must be controled. Full contact rules is almost like K2 except for attacks with elbows and knees. See the home page of Dominique Valera.

[sipak]

thanks from Brazil

[DMWH]

agreed he actually had power in his kata.. sorry "hyung" because your power comes from the hip, and i saw good, hip drive, rotation and vibration

[sipak]

I told...

Karate use Kime method. it is an explosive attack to the target using the appropriate technique and the maximum of force in the lesser possible time.

In taekwondo, has influences of the Tang soo in the execution of the forms, took off this of the Taekwondo, having many pauses in the exchanges of the attack bases and defense .

I prefer to use in real time, like karate

[iketheman]

nice pattern!

[sarang1987]

Ah the great old school... If we were still doing patterns like that, maybe there would be less questions like "oh I can't see the relation between hyung and fight"... Beau travail Mr. Nguyen !

[asolitaryblue]

that was all over the place... how about showing some control and not throwing urself around like a ragdoll...

[nghoaivan2]

Hyungs (patterns) are REAL combats against imaginary opponents. That's why moves in a pattern are never fast (and powerful) enough, as in any combat.

[tkdaly]

he preformed it to fast..

[yanndanis123]

for a black belt he doesnt show all his moves!!

[yanndanis123]

i find it is way to fast!

[FlameDProductions]

It's not always about speed man...But anyways great job whoever this was! I'm in TKD. I ain't this good, but I am in levels of thinking...I'm actually only 13...^_^

[nghoaivan2]

There's 5 levels of practice : very slow without contraction(like Yang style Tai Chi Chuan), slow with final contraction for each movement, fast with decomposition of each movement(ITF style), slow with decomposition by combat sequences, fast with decomposition in combat sequences. Then : forget all that and just do as you feel !

[FlameDProductions]

Uhhh.. My sister won't stop posting comments as me. This is my sister not me.

[nghoaivan2]

I am delighted to have her comment.

[weahman]

too fast needs to slow down form should be over a minute long

[ArukoDesu]

Wow...This may be good by your school's definition but that is a strange to me. Ge Baek is my top pattern, currently, as a 1st Dan. I take Chan Hun and am a member of the UTF, though my Dojang is both UTF and ITF. I must say, my teacher and my teacher's teacher would have a field day on you sir. haha

[nghoaivan2]

May I suggest you to follow the path of your teachers, as long as you feel that this training really help you in your fighting skill. Patterns are real fightings against an imaginary opponent ...

[blueboy040]

May I add - a very well executed example of Gae-Beak Hyung. Thanks for posted, good to see some true TKD traditionalist posting on youtube. More please!

[blueboy040]

This is the Chong-Hon style of TKD which is the original military TKD style formalised in 1955 by the then KTA (Korean Tae Kwon Do Association)& South Korean Goverment. Chong-Hon pre-dates both the ITF & WTF "styles" and is the father style of all the modern TKD variations. Many of the older Korean TKD Masters still teach this original self defence, power style (no competition)of TKD.

Ge Baek Hyung is the 2nd Dan Black Belt pattern of the original TKD style.

[nghoaivan2]

Chang Hun (Chong Hon ?) is the scolar name of General Choi Hong Hi, one of the founder of TKD. Chang Hun means "blue cottage". Thanks for your post.

[nghoaivan2]

It's ITF before ITF (!) when TKD was united in only one organisation. "Spin motion", caracteristic of actual ITF, has not been invented... My fist TKD school is Hwa Rang Kwan, before the Instructors group of Korean Army Headquarter in Viet Nam (members are all champions in some field in Korea).

[jsstevens]

Who creatd this form? What Taekwondo organization or school does it orginate from? It reminds me of older Chung Do Kwan / Shotokan forms. The performer is obviously not a practitioner of modern Taegeuk poomsae or Kukki-Taekwondo. I like this style of intensity and rapid combinations in forms practice but I also like the precision required in the Taegeuk poomsae.