Advanced driving skills - Protec Training

[matlarosa]

Am I the only one that cannot understand him?

[Arodblade]

I thought they were speaking german for like 3 minutes till I realized he was speaking in a Scottish accent.

[totallyprettyinpink]

0:33 left side of the screen???

[dar3devil666]

oh come on , in my country only old civil man drives like that :))

[tubazoid]

3:43 Dumbarton Road, West End, Glasgow! :P I remember the blue-light traning relentlessly taking place allll last summer, or so it seemed to my ears! =(

[zoomer51]

garbage !! so useless, waisted my time !

[playboycollege]

no offence or anything.. its just that i didnt know that he was speaking english for the first few seconds

[jsemanglican]

i would also like to note that the chief driving instructor for my Ambulance service was the co-writer of 'Roadcraft'....

[jsemanglican]

"Unfortunatly I fear standard response and ambulance driver training is not compreshensive to cover enough for a student to learn correct application" so when i did my high speed training in N.Wales with the NHS Ambulance service and we covered extreme positioning we obviously are not trained enough!!!! Some people have no idea what they are on about! I am also a CP/CT trained driver from my time in the military...

[jsemanglican]

"Unfortunatly I fear standard response and ambulance driver training is not compreshensive to cover enough for a student to learn correct application" so when i did my high speed training in N.Wales with the NHS Ambulance service and we covered extreme positioning we obviously are not trained enough!!!! Some people have no idea what they are on about! I am also a CP/CT trained driver from my time in the military...

[ScumEraser]

Mikeyo1234 and urbex2007 sound like they have little to no knowledge of what is really being shown in this video and appear to be using this post to slate the Police in general.

This video gives a brief view of various levels of driving which are conducted by highly trained and skilled drivers - not neds in their hot hatches, which I suspect may be our two "heroes".

Very impressed with the video, it represents a true account of thehow far ahead Police drivers plan and anticipate.

[bagggs007]

Isn't all this encouraging the public to drive like policemen and without the benefit of blue lights and sirens and months of training? How about just keeping within the speed limits and approaching bends a little slower instead of moving to the middle on a left hand bend?! - I think a little knowledge of this type can be a dangerous thing! Leave this style of driving to the professionals who may require to drive faster to save a life, but to the rest of us just drive sensibly.

[earthfire1980]

is this filmed in heleburgh scotland into cardross???

[vordaks]

It so slow! Its an emergency car not a bus. A taxi driver could do a lot better than that

without the flashing light.

I know sometime they drive in the opposite side of traffic....but everything was done so slow. not impress.

[jbsportstech]

Good demo in the main. I agree nigel that the extreme o/s is only for fully trained police advanced level as it takes great disicpline and skill to use it safely. Unfortunatly I fear standard response and ambulance driver training is not compreshensive to cover enough for a student to learn correct application. Also you have taken a great risk posting it here someone like urbex may and it to the drive to tragic effect.

[protectraining]

@jbsportstech We note with interest the comments this video has generated. The aim of this video is for students coming on our courses to get a flavour of what to expect and to enable prospective clients to judge the standard of training being provided. What you see here is certainly not for amateurs and requires considerable training, awareness and skill to to carry it out safely. It is however taught on standard courses accross all services now and used daily - accidents are actually rare!

[NigelA27]

In my view extreme o/s positioning should not be shown to the general public and it is completely irresponsible to put it into the public domain. Some police driving schools have used this technique extensively and, used properly it is perfectly safe. However, if it is done wrongly it is far more dangerous than would otherwise be the case. It takes a particular mind set with a high level of self-discipline and restraint to do it properly and the average driver just does not have this

[mikeyo1234]

When the vehicle is on the other side of the road this is totally dumb, as if another vehicle is speeding in the other direction they will panic if they see the other vehicle coming head on, and the two vehicles may both swerve in to each other... then death ensues. Sorry but that is dumb advice.

[CAIDARROCH]

This is police advanced training, it's entirely detatched from normal driving.

[Minan3]

overseas there are cars that have it on the right side so i guess they drive on the left side of the road, and i also guess they should yield the right of way to a car on the left of the intersection

[oztopgun]

What u say is part correct, if they didn;t use a more advanced driving technique a bif chance they'll be there late. TRuck loads of paperwork and a load of brass hats bangin' on about "why were you late' IF you've ever been late, you'll know why they are over the other side of the road!!

[urbex2007]

This probably explains wht police drivers kill so many people in accidents due to careless and even dangerous driving.

I'm amazed at the poor instruction being given on this course, it is certainly NOT acceptable in the UK for police to drive in this manner. No objection to Class 1 drivers, it is Class 3's that cause most accidents when they ignore control room instructions and put people in danger.

[mikeyo1234]

@urbex2007: I totally agree this is blatantly dangerous.

[05027802]

Without intention to offend fella but who do you think is right, Roadcraft approved advanced driving that has been developed specfically for saftey by trained and highly experienced drivers and is recognised as the best approved method in the country, or Mikey1234?

You arguing against IAM approved drivers would be like me arguing the physics of the cosmos with Stephen Hawkins. Like I said, no offence.

[znra251]

@urbex2007 rather extreme claim there about police killing so many people in accidents due to careless or dangerous driving. I might drive on 15 of these runs per shift, that works out at about 3000 per year. I have been doing so for almost 2 years and am yet to have any sort of accident. I work on a team of 15 and no one from my team has had an accident driving in this way. I do know of people who have had accidents but your generalisation is actually offensive to the people who drive well

[05027802]

@mikeyo1234, I totally understand how these techniques appear to standard drivers but this is advanced driving and actually increases road saftey. As Nigel points out this is to be used by trained drivers and should never be attempted without authourized instruction.

Moving over to the opposite side of the road gives the driver advanced warning of other motorists which also gives other drivers advanced warning of your presence as well and if done correctly, should give no reason for alarm,

[mikeyo1234]

He is on the opposite side of the road round a blind corner... keep deluding yourself pal. This is utter BS that this is safe. On some corners yes but that corner is pretty much a blind corner.

[znra251]

@mikeyo1234 this advice makes perfect sense, read a book called roadcraft and the explanation is clear. Limit Point Analysis. People don't realise until they complete a course such as this is that prior to any manouvere there is an ongoing 'information' phase. The point is that if there is insufficent clear road/view then the driver will return to their own side of the road. People do not even have a chance to react because before the realise where the police car is it is back onto its own side

[classonedriver]

Hi,

quite keen to know where this took place. I hear the Scottish accent and see roads that resemble Ayr?!

Who is initally doing the driving and in what car? Is it a police/ambulance?

Cheers.

Very good,people could learn alot from this.

[protectraining]

The initial phase is in Helensburgh with later sections in the west end and city centre of Glasgow. The initial demo drives are in an unmarked Jeep 4x4 which was on hire and the marked military police vehicles for the response phase are a Vauxhall Astra and Vectra. The young lady is driving a high capacity Transit van with crew cab and prisoner cage. They are Royal Navy Provost (Military Police) staff who have a policing and a nuclear accident/incident response role. The instructor is also RN.

[classonedriver]

Thanks for that. What about your instructoer. Did he recieve his training in the miltary?

Again, I think his drive was a good one. No showboating like other persons on this website!

[protectraining]

He was trained by two different UK police forces.

[mikeyo1234]

One of the worst bits of driving I ever saw was by a police car. They almost ran me over on a zebra crossing... no lights or siren and they cam bombing round the corner, so even though I had looked left and right, with no siren I had no chance of hearing them coming around the corner. They managed to swerve just in time... but it was NOT controlled.

[urbex2007]

Well that explains it all then - nothing to do with REAL police driving. Those demonstrations of dangerous driving are *NOT* taught on the Class 1 driving courses. I hope if people drive like that and put others in danger they are prosecuted. No excuse for such sloppy, dangerous and inconsiderate driving. Get the real Police drivers to teach you as you shouldn't be allowed to practice on public roads, the military don't have the right to do what is in that video in the UK.

[PoliceMadBen]

Very nice video and interesting to watch!