In 1995, two years later, Hodgkinson was denying the link between HIV and AIDS, and declaring AIDS didn't really exist in Africa.
"We've never wanted to belittle the reality of AIDS. Yes, in Africa it doesn't exist as a plague in the way that it's been made out The HIV stuff is an artificial creation. Definitely." Neville Hodgkinson interview by Jody Wells. He was still questioning the linkage between AIDS and HIV in 2000.
This is the kind of person who denies the existence of M.E.
Neville Hodgkinson Sunday Times Science Correspondent. "Yuppie Flu" article 17 July 1988. Interview from "Frontline," Channel 4, 25 July 1993. "One of the best descriptions Ive heard of it was from a doctor at The Institute of Psychiatry," we can only guess who, "who said it was, 'like having one foot on the accelerator and one foot on the brake'." Neville Hodgkinson, degree in Economics from Durham University 1993. Now in 2009 a "Spiritual speaker and author." Ive given up being amazed.
Whatever ytgkvxs negative feelings towards myself (Liz) are, they can hardly apportion blame to the rest of the M.E. sufferers and viewers of these videos, who cant have done anything to upset anybody else, through their bringing of this hate campaign into the public arena. Irrespective of a sufferer being able to defraud Prof. A. Pinching into giving a false diagnosis, I can do nothing about being mixed race! :o(
You really should work on your grammar and spelling. Im not a brilliant speller myself, so I copy/paste from Microsoft Word, of which I own a fully legitimate copy. If you dont know how to do this, try highlight-control/C-place-cursor-control/V: Richard probably knows how to do this. The same people who dismiss ME/CFS also have even more extreme doubts about atopic syndrome. People who live in glass houses shouldnt throw stones! Liz. B-)
What motivated you post this gratuitously offensive remark? Recent research has shown a link with a seriously nasty retrovirus. Denying the existence of Myalgic Encephalomyelitis will have ramifications for the general public, in relation to blood stocks, and breast feeding mothers. Imagine what the world would be like if existence of the AIDS retrovirus was denied.
Never mind the 5000+ studies (peer reviewed) showing physiological abnormalities in ME/CFS patients as stated by luminaries such as Anthony Komoroff of Harvard.
@ytgkvx wrote: ytgkvx Block User be displayed hide
"there is no evedence for this suposed illness its a just an excuse for people who are just lazie" 5 months ago. I've copied/pasted your comments so that it's not possible for you to delete. People should be aware of your vile comments. These racist liars, Kelly Kinnaird and Darren Nesbit live at flat 3, 45 - 47 Chapel Pk Rd St. Leonards-On-Sea East Sussex TN37 6JB
I have to wonder how come people who don't suffer from a chronic illness or syndrome must poo-poo away its existence? It just shows that ignorance is bliss. If the persons who are writing these false statements actually took a moment and researched what they are saying, then they too would see past the fog the large insurance companies and psychiatrists are throwing out there! Stop believing everything you hear and use your own brain for once!! No wonder the world is in such disarray!!
Reply to @ytgkvx. Kelly & Daren know nothing about ME/CFS but are just making these comments because of a futile, childish dispute. I moved away from Baird House just to get away from the lies, animosity and harrassment. You've made me give up my home and I'm not there anymore. Can't you just put this behind you and leave my good friends and I alone?
@ytgkvx I think they're sick, but it's a stretch to call it a brain dysfunction. Kind of insulting to those of us who have a documented encephalopathy.
I hope those who suffer from CFS find the cause of it, and effective treatment.
I've never been a yuppie, I was a special needs teacher. I've been housebound with ME & fibromyalgia for 21 years since contracting flu.
This whole 'yuppie flu' & 'chronic fatigue syndrome' nonsense was put about by the psychiatrists working for the large insurance companies that wanted the neurological illness ME reclassified as a mental disorder so they didn't have to pay out compensation .The psychiatrists have taken every penny of taxpayers research and treatment funding & given us nothing
I notice that the chap being interviewed, Neville Hodgkinson, was the science correspondent for the Sunday Times yet the language he used was anything but scientific. Any ideas as to what this clip is from?
This clip, as with others here, is from BBC's Frontline program (1990s) where Dr. Ann Mc Intire is invited to express her views about how badly M. E. sufferers are treated: Because the medical community refuses to accept Dr. Costa's (and other medics) findings as a diagnostic test, it's open for any ham physician to throw whatever ill contrived explanation they want at this serious condition in a free for all. It's a scandal!
Chronic stress may PUSH you into a state of exhaustion ...But it will NOT cause M.E. OMG. M.E. is caused by A VIRAL INFECTION..Not stress. Stress only exacerbates the demands on the body.....If hard physical work was the cause, then all that jumping rope I did as a kid is what caused my current condition. Knowing what causes the illness is VITAL. I want to beat the truth to a pulp on this illness. I want it UNDERSTOOD PERFECTLY. I don't want just an ignorant cure. I want an absolute!!
Can I ask you when the Spect scan one dates to and whether you know how many Spect scanners there are in the NHS - I have been told there are very few.
Far as I know, MRI scanners, where Spect scans done, cost lots to install (£ millions) NHS have no shortage: most big hospitals have. They're backlogged by folk who self-abuse through excessive using harmful consumables: examples, alcohol/smoking/high fat diet. If you have illness not self-caused, you don't get. Moreso, psychiatrists veto: not wanting to loose face, as also do some GPs: please see other vid on conspiracy. (SERIOUSLY!) The scans featured here were early 90s. Thankyou lots! :o)
Hello Hoofbags. I'm confident the overwhelming evidence from international medical research into M.E. will force our country to comply. Doctor Trevor Marshall's USA clinical trials using Benicar and antibiotics as treatments have looked very promising.
I originally got sick following a long phase of extremely hard work coupled with mounting depression, which may have exposed a genetic chink in my armour to infection. There is some truth I think in the journalist's hypothesis that chronic exhaustion causes M.E. in certain, vulnerable individuals. Of course, we all want a cure, not endless debates about what causes it :)
Hello Macmador. I've been fundraising involved for years and 'origins/what causes it' type questions are always raised in the process. Before we get a cure we need to undo the reputation damage that's been perpetrated against the illness by psychiatrists serving as covert Govt. agents: Their purpose is to deprive funds for research/sufferers' support. People can get better from M.E. if allowed but there're never any provisions, hence, conspiracy! nothing less! Believe!!!!! Hope U get better.
@Macmador It's not difficult to conceive that certain situations may be considered risk factors and may increase the likelihood of ME becoming chronic, but these cannot be connected directly to causality. I.e., a person is probably more likely to be susceptible to the pathogens that cause these illnesses when they have been more active than usual or under stress but that does not mean that the stressful situation caused the problem. Many ME Px do not have these situations when they get sick.
i totally agree - if they started helping people instead of ignoring the condition, such as by offering ct scans (everyone else gets them) then they would possibly be able to rehabilitate people back into some fullfilling role in society.
In 1995, two years later, Hodgkinson was denying the link between HIV and AIDS, and declaring AIDS didn't really exist in Africa.
"We've never wanted to belittle the reality of AIDS. Yes, in Africa it doesn't exist as a plague in the way that it's been made out The HIV stuff is an artificial creation. Definitely." Neville Hodgkinson interview by Jody Wells. He was still questioning the linkage between AIDS and HIV in 2000.
This is the kind of person who denies the existence of M.E.
ShowalterdontlikeME 2 years ago 2
Neville Hodgkinson Sunday Times Science Correspondent. "Yuppie Flu" article 17 July 1988. Interview from "Frontline," Channel 4, 25 July 1993. "One of the best descriptions Ive heard of it was from a doctor at The Institute of Psychiatry," we can only guess who, "who said it was, 'like having one foot on the accelerator and one foot on the brake'." Neville Hodgkinson, degree in Economics from Durham University 1993. Now in 2009 a "Spiritual speaker and author." Ive given up being amazed.
ShowalterdontlikeME 2 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
there is no evedence for this suposed illness its a just an excuse for people who are just lazie
ytgkvx 2 years ago
Whatever ytgkvxs negative feelings towards myself (Liz) are, they can hardly apportion blame to the rest of the M.E. sufferers and viewers of these videos, who cant have done anything to upset anybody else, through their bringing of this hate campaign into the public arena. Irrespective of a sufferer being able to defraud Prof. A. Pinching into giving a false diagnosis, I can do nothing about being mixed race! :o(
hoofbags 2 years ago
You really should work on your grammar and spelling. Im not a brilliant speller myself, so I copy/paste from Microsoft Word, of which I own a fully legitimate copy. If you dont know how to do this, try highlight-control/C-place-cursor-control/V: Richard probably knows how to do this. The same people who dismiss ME/CFS also have even more extreme doubts about atopic syndrome. People who live in glass houses shouldnt throw stones! Liz. B-)
hoofbags 2 years ago
What motivated you post this gratuitously offensive remark? Recent research has shown a link with a seriously nasty retrovirus. Denying the existence of Myalgic Encephalomyelitis will have ramifications for the general public, in relation to blood stocks, and breast feeding mothers. Imagine what the world would be like if existence of the AIDS retrovirus was denied.
ShowalterdontlikeME 2 years ago 3
Never mind the 5000+ studies (peer reviewed) showing physiological abnormalities in ME/CFS patients as stated by luminaries such as Anthony Komoroff of Harvard.
synapse131 2 years ago 2
@ytgkvx wrote: ytgkvx Block User be displayed hide
"there is no evedence for this suposed illness its a just an excuse for people who are just lazie" 5 months ago. I've copied/pasted your comments so that it's not possible for you to delete. People should be aware of your vile comments. These racist liars, Kelly Kinnaird and Darren Nesbit live at flat 3, 45 - 47 Chapel Pk Rd St. Leonards-On-Sea East Sussex TN37 6JB
hoofbags 1 year ago
I have to wonder how come people who don't suffer from a chronic illness or syndrome must poo-poo away its existence? It just shows that ignorance is bliss. If the persons who are writing these false statements actually took a moment and researched what they are saying, then they too would see past the fog the large insurance companies and psychiatrists are throwing out there! Stop believing everything you hear and use your own brain for once!! No wonder the world is in such disarray!!
a1096blond 1 year ago
@ytgkvx
you should be extremely embarassed now! shame on you. sheeple piss me off.
3108711289 1 year ago
Reply to @ytgkvx. Kelly & Daren know nothing about ME/CFS but are just making these comments because of a futile, childish dispute. I moved away from Baird House just to get away from the lies, animosity and harrassment. You've made me give up my home and I'm not there anymore. Can't you just put this behind you and leave my good friends and I alone?
hoofbags 1 year ago
@ytgkvx I think they're sick, but it's a stretch to call it a brain dysfunction. Kind of insulting to those of us who have a documented encephalopathy.
I hope those who suffer from CFS find the cause of it, and effective treatment.
ReviewCam 2 months ago
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I just found this, great video.
Well done in making it, this is history!
luminescentfeeling 2 years ago
I've never been a yuppie, I was a special needs teacher. I've been housebound with ME & fibromyalgia for 21 years since contracting flu.
This whole 'yuppie flu' & 'chronic fatigue syndrome' nonsense was put about by the psychiatrists working for the large insurance companies that wanted the neurological illness ME reclassified as a mental disorder so they didn't have to pay out compensation .The psychiatrists have taken every penny of taxpayers research and treatment funding & given us nothing
Bluebottle83 2 years ago 10
I notice that the chap being interviewed, Neville Hodgkinson, was the science correspondent for the Sunday Times yet the language he used was anything but scientific. Any ideas as to what this clip is from?
GBCTwo 2 years ago 2
This clip, as with others here, is from BBC's Frontline program (1990s) where Dr. Ann Mc Intire is invited to express her views about how badly M. E. sufferers are treated: Because the medical community refuses to accept Dr. Costa's (and other medics) findings as a diagnostic test, it's open for any ham physician to throw whatever ill contrived explanation they want at this serious condition in a free for all. It's a scandal!
hoofbags 2 years ago
Brilliant video.
The journalists ignorance flows out of him pathologically.
His 'source' for his discriminatory and prejudice views, are nothing but hearsay by Psychiatrists.
It's like the BNP saying 'they heard' people who aren't white are inferior and mustn't get the vote.
Laughable, but ME patients aren't laughing - they are paying the price of this institutional hatred.
Fantastic video, the man shown has shamed himself, so that's a start.
luminescentfeeling 2 years ago 9
Chronic stress may PUSH you into a state of exhaustion ...But it will NOT cause M.E. OMG. M.E. is caused by A VIRAL INFECTION..Not stress. Stress only exacerbates the demands on the body.....If hard physical work was the cause, then all that jumping rope I did as a kid is what caused my current condition. Knowing what causes the illness is VITAL. I want to beat the truth to a pulp on this illness. I want it UNDERSTOOD PERFECTLY. I don't want just an ignorant cure. I want an absolute!!
komodiakarma 2 years ago 6
Thank you so much for putting thse videos up -
Can I ask you when the Spect scan one dates to and whether you know how many Spect scanners there are in the NHS - I have been told there are very few.
The way we have all been treated is a disgrace.
Thanks again.
deadgirldreaming 2 years ago 2
Far as I know, MRI scanners, where Spect scans done, cost lots to install (£ millions) NHS have no shortage: most big hospitals have. They're backlogged by folk who self-abuse through excessive using harmful consumables: examples, alcohol/smoking/high fat diet. If you have illness not self-caused, you don't get. Moreso, psychiatrists veto: not wanting to loose face, as also do some GPs: please see other vid on conspiracy. (SERIOUSLY!) The scans featured here were early 90s. Thankyou lots! :o)
hoofbags 2 years ago
Hello Hoofbags. I'm confident the overwhelming evidence from international medical research into M.E. will force our country to comply. Doctor Trevor Marshall's USA clinical trials using Benicar and antibiotics as treatments have looked very promising.
Macmador 3 years ago
Hello Macmador. This sounds encouraging. Thank you for your comments: debate is always welcome. Liz Hoofbags. :o)
hoofbags 3 years ago
I originally got sick following a long phase of extremely hard work coupled with mounting depression, which may have exposed a genetic chink in my armour to infection. There is some truth I think in the journalist's hypothesis that chronic exhaustion causes M.E. in certain, vulnerable individuals. Of course, we all want a cure, not endless debates about what causes it :)
Macmador 3 years ago
Hello Macmador. I've been fundraising involved for years and 'origins/what causes it' type questions are always raised in the process. Before we get a cure we need to undo the reputation damage that's been perpetrated against the illness by psychiatrists serving as covert Govt. agents: Their purpose is to deprive funds for research/sufferers' support. People can get better from M.E. if allowed but there're never any provisions, hence, conspiracy! nothing less! Believe!!!!! Hope U get better.
hoofbags 3 years ago
@Macmador It's not difficult to conceive that certain situations may be considered risk factors and may increase the likelihood of ME becoming chronic, but these cannot be connected directly to causality. I.e., a person is probably more likely to be susceptible to the pathogens that cause these illnesses when they have been more active than usual or under stress but that does not mean that the stressful situation caused the problem. Many ME Px do not have these situations when they get sick.
synapse131 1 year ago
It can't do any fullfillin' role wiv' antlers at half-mast!
hoofbags 3 years ago
There is no cure....yet. We need money for research.
fogggygyrl 3 years ago
i totally agree - if they started helping people instead of ignoring the condition, such as by offering ct scans (everyone else gets them) then they would possibly be able to rehabilitate people back into some fullfilling role in society.
shrubbie1 3 years ago