Actually on watching Paragon and Method in action it's quite upsetting to see them always come second. As so many before me have stated we all know that Paragon or Dream Paragon or whatever guise that tank goes under I hate so much, and no it's not due to jealousy it's due to having the displeasure of playing with the guy and healing him through some heroics at the beginning of cat, rudest person i have ever known and he caused four wipes blabbing on about how much better than us he was.
@Drooddood808 You're wrong, Paragon out-played and used a far more effective strategy. It's not cheating, it's using what you've been given and building the best configuration you can and executing it perfectly. I'm not saying Method's kill wasn't extremely impressive, but Paragon deserved world first simply because they killed the boss first without cheating / exploiting. No-one can disagree that Paragon are the best in the game.
@InTheoryGuild It's not about whether or not paragon deserved world first, it's about how they got it. Sure they did "get it", but they exploited the rip mechanic and blizzard said it themselves that it was not intended for rip to overscale the way it did with stolen power. Argue all you want, facts are facts and you're just a fanboy in the end.
@W00fImAD0g Actually no, I love Ensidia. Not Paragon, nor Method so I have no bias in what I'm saying. Paragon did nothing which Blizzard didn't set them up with, and anyway, Paragon killed Nefarian first after Blizz nerfed the rip mechanic. Also, "facts are facts"? Of course they are, what kind of statement is that? But I can and will argue, because I'm correct.
@InTheoryGuild Using anything that was not intended to begin with(ie rip scale) is considered an exploit. You take advantage of something that would normally not be there. Let me ask you this, and considering whether or not you played back in bc I will be able to see if you're actually retarded. Back on al'ar in tempest keep, my guild abused a glitch with his p3 mechanic as to where a troll shadow priest would devouring plague(was a 30% ms back then) to make him respawn with 30% less hp.
this is what i always talk about. You low lives talk like shit LOL and "don't fucking die to fire, you stupid asses" like seriously it's a god dam game...
@GuyN0ir So Blizz meant for feral druids to hit 50k dps during Nef hc with rip ? please direct me to the blue post where it says that, or else fuck off and admit that they cheated.
@Nucleariasi That's a mechanic of the fight. There is part of the heroic fight (after you get mc'd) where your next hit does insanely high damage. Blizzard hadn't taken into account the scaling with rip and it's dot effect. Look up the fight on heroic and you'll see that what they did wasn't an exploit, they were just taking advantage of a part of the fight by stacking one particular class.
I'm surprised they brought warlocks here, seeing as pets don't gain the damage buff at all, we're completely raped by other classes. I'm currently ranked 12th for demo locks in this fight with 27.7k dps... The top damage in our raid for that parse? 40k, by a shadowpriest.
Hello very nice video & GJ. Just one question for Imsupersdw | Balance Druid.
Can you tell me the addons you use for your eclipse bar? & the addon you use for the CDs i can see at the bottom of your screen. example it tells you how long you have left on spells to be cast. Thanks
U will get a mc called "Domination". When the mc is gone and u have build up stacks ur next attack will be a 2000 % dmg hit :) So that why its so high.
Please check out 25man. com/nefarian if you are looking for a step-by-step indepth guide for the Nefarian encounter. Every step is explained with a detailed screenshot.
"get ur facts straight before posting, method wouldn't have used that bug, since they didn't wanna kill the boss non-legit"
get YOUR facts straight, paragons kill wasn't a bug, and it wasn't an abuse. At the point when paragon made their kill the buff increased your next moves damage. They used their brains and took classes that could do the most damage in a single move. There is no rule that says "your kill isn't legit if you take too many of 1 class" you can take 25 druids if you want.
fucking retards, method had a lot more gear then paragon did when they killed it. paragon did what they had to do at the time to kill it. what's done is done. whos first is first who's second is second. game over.
@taisendeity The way I see it is, paragon punched nefarian while he was sleeping, and held his kids hostage while they beat on him. While method setup a time and date to meet and fought nefarian head on without exploiting any cheap or petty tactics to defeat him. I still think Method is the better and skilled guild in cat. so far.
To clear things upa bout my post since you both failed to comprehend what i was saying, when paragon killed it they did NOT have the gear to kill it with a normal raid. They did what they had to do at the time to get the kill. Stack the best classes/specs for the encounter and that happened to be Druids. If method guild knew to to stack feral druids, they would have done the same fucking thing. Get over it, paragon killed it 20 days earlier then paragon.
@taisendeity wait paragon killed it 20 days before paragon i think you have your facts confused mister. Method is the better guild is all I'm saying. They played the encounter without using 10+ feral druids. But oh well, Methods method is much more entertaining
@taisendeity man, get ur facts straight before posting, method wouldn't have used that bug, since they didn't wanna kill the boss non-legit, all of their kills has been legit, they have been skipping bosses that can't be killed lgeit, so next time u post, get ur facts straigt.
@Xehanort1227 LOL I am pretty sure those fk tards from method would have used the same tactic if they would have foundout about the RIP -bug!! Another fact is that Paragon was humble in immediately granting Blizzard feed back about this issue and posted it in their videos aswell. Notice how Paragon is always ahead of Method in terms of releasing vids. Paragon is just a well oiled machine that is unbeatable so I understand your frustration to see your favorite's win first
@janjan55555 They're not saying that method wouldn't have used the bug if they found it. They're saying this video is far more epic and actually a bit more of a learning experience rather than watching Paragon's feral druid do 850k crits and having Nef drop 1% even 2 or 3 seconds. This video actually shows how tough the fight is and really should be. Having 15 or more druids critting for 850k really defeats the purpose of watching Paragon's video.
@Tewpanda not all Druids did 850k rofl.. u first need the buff to do it and it doesnt lats for 10 mins, they just used more druids so that thier chance of gettin the buff o the ferals would increase... Please stay to the facts rofl.. if all druids did 850k each 2-3sec the boss would have been dead in less then 1 min and the healers wouldnt even keep up with the 10% aoe dmg. o.O
@janjan55555 you really must have some fucked up brain disease.
As i did enjoy watching you troll 24/7, it's getting quite old, starting to look like you have some sort of butthurt.
You didn't see anyone from method claiming that this was a world first, or any of the other kills for that matter.
As for the video releases, isn't that quite obvious? when you kill a boss before the other guilds, you wait for your direct competitors to actually kill the boss before you release your video, so, if you
@janjan55555 so if you actually kill a boss as world first, its obvious that your release will be faster than the guild that killed it as 2nd, seeing as the other ones still need to work out on the editing, when all you need to do after the 2nd guild kills the boss is change the video status from private to public.
HF with your trolling, but please, don't get too obsessed, after some time it just looks silly.
lol if a Illusion potion turns u into your target, how come i became a Gnome when i had a troll targeted xD ? tbh the transformations are pure random,
What addon does imsuperdw have to see the heals and etc on the sides? I'm a melee DPS and it's very hard to sometimes spot less visible AOE thrown down by bosses and such because of all the effects that are going up my screen.
hmm i think ppl forgot that paragon kiled this on a buggy boss and also Paragon didnt get the most world first kills and that Method were on top for a while until 10/13 i think. and also Method is an older guild and they are on my server so i suport method 100% and also ppl who say "Paragon are better!!" Have you killed these bosse or even tried them? No i can tell you from looking at the fight and also doing /who method that they spent alot of time wiping so just downing this is Very good work
@skiisgood wow, wow, wow, wow.... ur so clueless mate. Ofc they kill the easyer bosses world first, thats the method mentality. they are so cocky as fuck about getting " alliance first kills" so fill up their e-penis, that they struggle on the real hard shit. Method will always be behind the real top guilds.
Paragon doesnt really care about getting world first off every kill, they care about end bosses. Thats why they slacked on cho'gall and for the horde got world first there.
1) paragon took 12 druids (4 of them are always in the main raiding team, so only + 8); 2) how would you explain other world first kills? They didn't bug other bosses.
And doesn't matter if you bug it or not, paragon still has world first. Would you be happier if anyone else would have gotten world first using this bug? Because it would be spotted by other guild that nefarian takes too much damage from rip
@Xawix yes but they still needed to expoit a bug. This is the way blizz wanted the fight to be. And also I bet alot more ppl prefer method to paragon for the following reasons
1) Paragon are finnish
2) Paragon dont actually impress ppl when the have to exploit a bit like ensidia really (back in WOTLK)
3) they are only Ally guild in top 5
4) They have lives after hardcore and i have been on there vent and a very nice guys.
5) they've been around since classic and paragon havent
@Mkwalgreen Couldn't agree more, one of my current realmies used to be in method but just for a week and he left! Reason: "Method is a bunch of addicts who litteraly play 7/7 and have no sense of playing the game relaxed. Most of them are just plain dull and probably have no sense of how to approach this game in a normal way and fll of emos!"
@Mkwalgreen Couldn't agree more, one of my current realmies used to be in method but just for a week and he left! Reason: "Method is a bunch of addicts who litteraly play 7/7 and have no sense of playing the game relaxed. Most of them are just plain dull and probably have no sense of how to approach this game in a normal way and fll of emos!"
@skiisgood I have seen a couple of members of paragon and I can say honestly they are by far WOW's most professional gamers/most skilled gamers in the word as a team (!)! They dont care about others opinion/fanboys/e-net drama, they are only here for the kills and work EXTREMELY well together as a team, this as a result of national coherence ofcourse. Paragon cleared Yogg+0 waaay faster before method and this fight is extremely unforgiven (Could only kill it after 1.5 months of trying!)
so because Paragon have druid alts available that means their kill isnt legit? catch a grip, you can see dots are still scaling ridiculously, maybe not to the proportion that rip was, but its still insane. Paragon were smart and used a tactic that was put in the game by Blizzard the only difference was that they had the druid alts/brains to use it, gz on your world 2nd Method
@natemc91 Actually the ability has since been hotfixed and changed from a damage increase to a haste increase. In WotLK Ensidia was the first kill in the world to get a LK25 kill, blizzard then banned them all for 72 hours and revoked the kill for no legitamate reason, which almost caused them to disband as a guild, (they didnt know they were exploiting). Paragon knew what they were doing, which is why they stacked classes, yet Blizzard didn't care this time around. They cheated.
@63517489 There's a difference between "Clever use of Game Mechanics" and "Oh hey, tossing this bomb (which is the wrong one to use in a DPS rotation by the way) at the throne means that we can ignore the hardest part of the fight entirely!"
Nihilum/Ensidia has been using exploits as their modus operandi since C'thun, reporting them after the kill so no one else can do it. But go ahead, continue to be a fanboy.
@joshparsons Pretty much everything that you said was true, but that they've been exploiting constantly since C'thun is just not true till LK25. But then again, just "continue to be a hater".
@klakicool They blamed Blizzard for not testing Eredar Twins, but who thinks an entire raid's going to stand on a -lamp- ? 25 Soulstones for Grand Crusade? Or spam your oozling to cap out your debuffs and stay in C'thun?
The list goes on. They're solid players when they're not exploiting, but they're not the best. Another tier of raiding with them falling even further behind shows that if they can't take advantage of it they just don't measure up to the standards that Method does. lol10man?
@joshparsons Yes, infact they are the best, blind fanboys everywhere it seems, method is an amazing guild, but they lost out to paragon in this tier of raiding, if they thought of stacking feral druids they would have.
@mitre991 But they didn't let them set them back more than a week. Method impressed me, Paragon got it first. Just like the 7:35 Light of Dawn kill for Stars was bloody impressive even when that wasn't "First".
@joshparsons Yes they are actually, any *good* rogue eng used those bombs in 3.3, they were thrown as a filler when the rogue didn't have enough energy to perform an ability.
@63517489 no video of Ensidias LK25 kill was ever released, further proving the fact they knew exactly what they were doing, deliberately exploiting to ignore the hardest part of the boss at the time, the valkyrs(dps requirements etc). class stacking is not an exploit.
And to add a little more, do you really believe method without the rip fix you would have beated paragon? reallly??? no indeed thats what i tought. They faceroll encounters you struggle on with or without " exploits". i remember the kill on chimaeron some douchebag on your vent got he's epenis so high. that he wasnt even happy as a guild to kill it. "comon guys wtf is that screaming about" Yes thats the mentality of method. fucking shit douchebags with skill and a massive e peen. welcome to meth
fuck method tbh, they are always this fucking cocky about this shit. from day1 they started their guild till now they are cocky as fuck, 0 respect for other guilds and to keep there e-penis high they claim " allaince first" kills.. wtf is that shit?
Posting a full druid screenshot as their guild kill screenshot is just fucking sad as fuck just to diss paragon. Remember method, you will always be 1 or 2 steps behind, you always haven been and you always will. cya's
Because of what? using the encounter the way it was build? Finding excuses and blame other guilds for not getting world first because of some retarted mechanic? Thats why method didnt kill it before paragon because they were short on druids is the next excuse? or wait " we didnt wanted to use the exploit" Blizzard monitors every hc game including sinestra kill.. Blizz knew it. Blame blizz if you wanna blame anybody. but i blame method for being cocky twats.
Moonkin UI?
Ohstah 1 week ago
But that was Onyxia
XxXRoaroftheTigerXxX 1 month ago
name of interface?
Mahimage 1 month ago
Thumbs up for best eu guild
Johnxaful 3 months ago
Paragon proves raid after raid, their the best.. and they are :-)
Andkomx 4 months ago
@Andkomx Kinda like how they failed on Deathwing TROLOLO
darkchas17 1 month ago
@darkchas17
They actually didn't fail on Deathwing, looking at the fact that they had 8 days ban first they still ended quite nicely :)
Sharkajin 1 month ago
ensidia ftw
Azalen24 6 months ago
Actually on watching Paragon and Method in action it's quite upsetting to see them always come second. As so many before me have stated we all know that Paragon or Dream Paragon or whatever guise that tank goes under I hate so much, and no it's not due to jealousy it's due to having the displeasure of playing with the guy and healing him through some heroics at the beginning of cat, rudest person i have ever known and he caused four wipes blabbing on about how much better than us he was.
Runestone12 6 months ago
@Runestone12 and to conclude we all know they get it all handed to them on a plate..hell blizzard may as well just sponsor them
Runestone12 6 months ago
Glory to Method......fuck Paragon....!!!!!!! :D
ThePowerOfJericho 6 months ago
xaxa psofa gamidi XD
MrGREECEPLAYA 7 months ago 3
PSOFA GAMIMENO....mpravo file tora ton rixnoun meta to nerf kai nomizoun oti einai pro gratz kai kalh sinexia:)
dinnerline 7 months ago
fuck yeah! trance while raiding <3
workussop 8 months ago
That music is very very annoying..
MrNicolaai 8 months ago
@MrNicolaai nice to know im not the only one that doesn't like all this rave music they decide to put on these videos
Fluffer4Fun 7 months ago
Paragon cheated, Method deserves world first
Drooddood808 8 months ago
@Drooddood808 You're wrong, Paragon out-played and used a far more effective strategy. It's not cheating, it's using what you've been given and building the best configuration you can and executing it perfectly. I'm not saying Method's kill wasn't extremely impressive, but Paragon deserved world first simply because they killed the boss first without cheating / exploiting. No-one can disagree that Paragon are the best in the game.
InTheoryGuild 8 months ago
@InTheoryGuild It's not about whether or not paragon deserved world first, it's about how they got it. Sure they did "get it", but they exploited the rip mechanic and blizzard said it themselves that it was not intended for rip to overscale the way it did with stolen power. Argue all you want, facts are facts and you're just a fanboy in the end.
W00fImAD0g 7 months ago
@W00fImAD0g Actually no, I love Ensidia. Not Paragon, nor Method so I have no bias in what I'm saying. Paragon did nothing which Blizzard didn't set them up with, and anyway, Paragon killed Nefarian first after Blizz nerfed the rip mechanic. Also, "facts are facts"? Of course they are, what kind of statement is that? But I can and will argue, because I'm correct.
InTheoryGuild 7 months ago
@InTheoryGuild Using anything that was not intended to begin with(ie rip scale) is considered an exploit. You take advantage of something that would normally not be there. Let me ask you this, and considering whether or not you played back in bc I will be able to see if you're actually retarded. Back on al'ar in tempest keep, my guild abused a glitch with his p3 mechanic as to where a troll shadow priest would devouring plague(was a 30% ms back then) to make him respawn with 30% less hp.
W00fImAD0g 7 months ago
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@W00fImAD0g "Paragon killed Nefarian first after Blizz nerfed the rip mechanic."
InTheoryGuild 7 months ago
The 25 who disliked got world third.
superfatkid100 8 months ago 22
psofa gamidi....gamidiiiiii :D
Psyface9 9 months ago
@Psyface9 eixa pe8anei edw sto gelio xD
sidchristos123 7 months ago
this is what i always talk about. You low lives talk like shit LOL and "don't fucking die to fire, you stupid asses" like seriously it's a god dam game...
CarlosEatsWorlds0921 9 months ago
who is the dj?
kludde82 9 months ago
y u no use epic music insteadof that ear-shit? -.-
Fallnetthinn 9 months ago
Wraia gay fwnh exeis!!! pzofa gamidi!!! oh oh oh naaiiiiiiiiiiiiii
TheoKMNS 9 months ago
The reasons i watch videos like this is to:
1. Check how they do it and
2. Watch the UI's
And i fucking love the Balance Druids UI!
KontoError 9 months ago
Paragon are a bunch of cheating pieces of shit...always going around the tactics and abusing glitches.
Nucleariasi 9 months ago 2
@Nucleariasi Lmfao, it wasn't a glitch, idiot. Please learn the facts before talking shit.
GuyN0ir 9 months ago
@GuyN0ir So Blizz meant for feral druids to hit 50k dps during Nef hc with rip ? please direct me to the blue post where it says that, or else fuck off and admit that they cheated.
Nucleariasi 9 months ago
@Nucleariasi That's a mechanic of the fight. There is part of the heroic fight (after you get mc'd) where your next hit does insanely high damage. Blizzard hadn't taken into account the scaling with rip and it's dot effect. Look up the fight on heroic and you'll see that what they did wasn't an exploit, they were just taking advantage of a part of the fight by stacking one particular class.
GuyN0ir 9 months ago
@Nucleariasi Hard envy, or no ? xD
MsThePierre 9 months ago
@MsThePierre What has this to do with envy ?! I'm talking that they didn't deserve Nef hc world first, because they abused a game mechanic.
Nucleariasi 9 months ago
gay music
s1monsen 9 months ago
Gamidi....xaxaxaxa...!! Good job guys !!!
CostasntinosM 9 months ago
I'm surprised they brought warlocks here, seeing as pets don't gain the damage buff at all, we're completely raped by other classes. I'm currently ranked 12th for demo locks in this fight with 27.7k dps... The top damage in our raid for that parse? 40k, by a shadowpriest.
JOBoarder27 10 months ago
PSOFA GAMIDI MEANS WE ARE BROKE MAN ! no money left bro we have to set up more pizza places man!
jeesjees100 10 months ago
@jeesjees100
close, but no
rogerbrownaki 10 months ago
hey guys are we doing the druid thing? no we arent you ugly rat
jeesjees100 10 months ago
Hello very nice video & GJ. Just one question for Imsupersdw | Balance Druid.
Can you tell me the addons you use for your eclipse bar? & the addon you use for the CDs i can see at the bottom of your screen. example it tells you how long you have left on spells to be cast. Thanks
Eosur 10 months ago
Loving all the angry trolls on this vid.. Plz, keep it coming. Your making the world giggle
TheSuperTrickey 11 months ago
@TheSuperTrickey shut the fuck up you british fat teenager go have some fish and chips and rethink your ugly face
jeesjees100 10 months ago
"hey guys are we doing the druid thing" your voice sounds so gay go fucking killyourself ugly gay
jeesjees100 11 months ago
@jeesjees100 Your a very angry person.. Go smoke something strong and rethink your life. Kktybye x
TheSuperTrickey 11 months ago
1st kill after Rip "hotfix") YOU MAD BRO? HEY BRO U MAD ??? !!?!?!
jeesjees100 11 months ago
Pmsl at the boomkins ^.^
TheDranei1 11 months ago
fuck you all greece is fucking poor country its fucking broke and sick country
jeesjees100 11 months ago
@jeesjees100 we might be poor but at least we have bigger dicks than u
Infernodrak 11 months ago
poios einai o 8eos p eipe psofa gamidi?
dervek 11 months ago
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rogerbrownaki 11 months ago
@dervek
ela ti leei? ego eimai
rogerbrownaki 11 months ago
poios einai o 8eos p eipe psofa gamidi?
dervek 11 months ago
10:50 274k crit by a huntard holy fuck
rsdorg123 11 months ago 18
@rsdorg123 you obviously dont know the fight that well then
penguin2005 11 months ago
@penguin2005 ive never touched nefarian in normal or heroic so obv not artard
rsdorg123 11 months ago
@rsdorg123
U will get a mc called "Domination". When the mc is gone and u have build up stacks ur next attack will be a 2000 % dmg hit :) So that why its so high.
worldsman 8 months ago
@rsdorg123 there is a baff on nefarian hm by mk
Lopster737 2 months ago
@rsdorg123 Its a part of the fight :3
kalleline 14 hours ago
psofa re gamidi leei o allos ahahahahahhaha
TheGarzor 11 months ago
Please check out 25man. com/nefarian if you are looking for a step-by-step indepth guide for the Nefarian encounter. Every step is explained with a detailed screenshot.
BBYoake 11 months ago
What does psofa gamidi mean?
jason99uk 11 months ago
@jason99uk die u fucker
CloudoIX 11 months ago
he has unread letters :D
elwarriors77 11 months ago
psofa gamidi!!! haha ti leei to atomo:) Gz for the kill guys
Akaliptos15 11 months ago
"get ur facts straight before posting, method wouldn't have used that bug, since they didn't wanna kill the boss non-legit"
get YOUR facts straight, paragons kill wasn't a bug, and it wasn't an abuse. At the point when paragon made their kill the buff increased your next moves damage. They used their brains and took classes that could do the most damage in a single move. There is no rule that says "your kill isn't legit if you take too many of 1 class" you can take 25 druids if you want.
Hazanarko 11 months ago
@Hazanarko U mad bro?
Loucyftw 11 months ago
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taisendeity 1 year ago
I really enjoyed this video, the elation at the end is really satisfying - even as a viewer.
Good job on the kill, I look forward to the Firelands raid and to your future videos.
Wowandflutter333 1 year ago
fucking retards, method had a lot more gear then paragon did when they killed it. paragon did what they had to do at the time to kill it. what's done is done. whos first is first who's second is second. game over.
taisendeity 1 year ago
@taisendeity
You are right, Method had much greater gear. Far better gear.
Paragon completed the feat with what, 13 druids 11 of them 346 blue geared? Notice any problem, officer?
Wowandflutter333 1 year ago
@taisendeity The way I see it is, paragon punched nefarian while he was sleeping, and held his kids hostage while they beat on him. While method setup a time and date to meet and fought nefarian head on without exploiting any cheap or petty tactics to defeat him. I still think Method is the better and skilled guild in cat. so far.
MrIjijijijjiji 1 year ago
@MrIjijijijjiji & @Wowandflutter333
To clear things upa bout my post since you both failed to comprehend what i was saying, when paragon killed it they did NOT have the gear to kill it with a normal raid. They did what they had to do at the time to get the kill. Stack the best classes/specs for the encounter and that happened to be Druids. If method guild knew to to stack feral druids, they would have done the same fucking thing. Get over it, paragon killed it 20 days earlier then paragon.
taisendeity 1 year ago
@taisendeity wait paragon killed it 20 days before paragon i think you have your facts confused mister. Method is the better guild is all I'm saying. They played the encounter without using 10+ feral druids. But oh well, Methods method is much more entertaining
MrIjijijijjiji 1 year ago
@taisendeity man, get ur facts straight before posting, method wouldn't have used that bug, since they didn't wanna kill the boss non-legit, all of their kills has been legit, they have been skipping bosses that can't be killed lgeit, so next time u post, get ur facts straigt.
95bilaho95 11 months ago
@MrIjijijijjiji its your opinion and no1 gives a fuck about your opinion because you dont know anything you IDIOT! you sick fuck!
jeesjees100 11 months ago
@jeesjees100 okay >.> ill have a talk with you tonight after I'm done fucking your mom okay son.
MrIjijijijjiji 11 months ago
Method is the real world 1st. If you are seriously, youll lose
d11lucio 1 year ago
what addon is that that make the amount of damage dealt is looking cooler? :D
FightingGingers 1 year ago
ViruS963 1 year ago
Glory to the Alliance!
Dainichisama 1 year ago
long live the broken weapons !
ico80 1 year ago
This video looks far more epic than the paragon video. Paragon's video didn't really do the fight's difficulty any justice.
Xehanort1227 1 year ago
@Xehanort1227 LOL I am pretty sure those fk tards from method would have used the same tactic if they would have foundout about the RIP -bug!! Another fact is that Paragon was humble in immediately granting Blizzard feed back about this issue and posted it in their videos aswell. Notice how Paragon is always ahead of Method in terms of releasing vids. Paragon is just a well oiled machine that is unbeatable so I understand your frustration to see your favorite's win first
janjan55555 1 year ago
@janjan55555 They're not saying that method wouldn't have used the bug if they found it. They're saying this video is far more epic and actually a bit more of a learning experience rather than watching Paragon's feral druid do 850k crits and having Nef drop 1% even 2 or 3 seconds. This video actually shows how tough the fight is and really should be. Having 15 or more druids critting for 850k really defeats the purpose of watching Paragon's video.
Tewpanda 1 year ago 28
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juliusreea 1 year ago
@Tewpanda Is it really a bug? I thought it was teh debuff they stacked?
MrWow1wow 10 months ago
@Tewpanda but Paragon is still WORLDS best guild =)
but Method is awesome to
jeezwtfdudeomg 10 months ago
@Tewpanda not all Druids did 850k rofl.. u first need the buff to do it and it doesnt lats for 10 mins, they just used more druids so that thier chance of gettin the buff o the ferals would increase... Please stay to the facts rofl.. if all druids did 850k each 2-3sec the boss would have been dead in less then 1 min and the healers wouldnt even keep up with the 10% aoe dmg. o.O
Esymad 9 months ago
@janjan55555 you really must have some fucked up brain disease.
As i did enjoy watching you troll 24/7, it's getting quite old, starting to look like you have some sort of butthurt.
You didn't see anyone from method claiming that this was a world first, or any of the other kills for that matter.
As for the video releases, isn't that quite obvious? when you kill a boss before the other guilds, you wait for your direct competitors to actually kill the boss before you release your video, so, if you
joaosdw 1 year ago
@janjan55555 so if you actually kill a boss as world first, its obvious that your release will be faster than the guild that killed it as 2nd, seeing as the other ones still need to work out on the editing, when all you need to do after the 2nd guild kills the boss is change the video status from private to public.
HF with your trolling, but please, don't get too obsessed, after some time it just looks silly.
joaosdw 1 year ago
Must have been luck since you haven't killed it again since this..
ko300zx 1 year ago
@ko300zx It's called having a break.
jason99uk 1 year ago
axaxaxa , PSOFA GAMIDI ....GAMIDIIIII ..mbravo re palikaria , btw eine kanenas apo sas o "Razielakos" o rogue otan isastan sylvanas ?
roquaras 1 year ago
@roquaras itan itan!!!! ;)
ViruS963 1 year ago
'Method vs Nefarian 25man Heroic, World 2nd(1st kill after Rip "hotfix") kill on January 29th 2011.'
Could have been done with warlocks/Shadow Priests.
Bloddyhuntard 1 year ago
lol if a Illusion potion turns u into your target, how come i became a Gnome when i had a troll targeted xD ? tbh the transformations are pure random,
Makaveli13Xroy 1 year ago
Gamidi <3
TheKingRthur 1 year ago
Heavy Bass
MrRadiss 1 year ago
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MrRadiss 1 year ago
time to hit the mute button while watching.
ghelyar 1 year ago
psofa re gamidi a re elladara pantou eisai :P
asbanoglou 1 year ago
Psofa gamidi
Pvyron 1 year ago
Whats the addon called that the hunter in the movie uses? the one that shows those cool damage numbers in the screen :)?
faxenjoy 1 year ago
Mikscrollingbattle text, SCT.....Which one is it?!?!
icyrazor 1 year ago
@Mkwalgreen oh look a paragon fanboy
Nihilist15 1 year ago
gratz on world first without exploiting boss/spell mechanics
joe4951 1 year ago
Nice, only 3 weeks after Paragon. Oh, and nicely exploited with grounding totems on you-know-what!
LillaPetter 1 year ago
why do all these high-end guilds put such sub-par music in their vids
lraham 1 year ago
@lraham
Matter of taste champ.
For all I care they could put really crazy and kinky music like:
MC Hammer - Cant touch this
Waka Waka (This Time For Africa)
Los Del Rio - Macarena
New London Beat - I been thinking about you
Vengaboys - boom boom boom
DzonatanGavert 1 year ago
What addon does imsuperdw have to see the heals and etc on the sides? I'm a melee DPS and it's very hard to sometimes spot less visible AOE thrown down by bosses and such because of all the effects that are going up my screen.
icyrazor 1 year ago
@icyrazor mikscrollingbattle text
xxVERSATILExx 1 year ago
@icyrazor SCT, the regular one.
joaosdw 1 year ago
SOO MUCH DAMAGE!
younglivinent 1 year ago
sick quality, very nice
Variia 1 year ago
Elladara!!! Gtz apo Elada!
alexisbjj 1 year ago
@Xawix you do realize Paragon did this after they got world's first and didn't use all those druids?
Kainaia2 1 year ago
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Imsomadbro 1 year ago
Ummm....where are all the kitty droods at? =P
Myheroisme0212 1 year ago
Inspired :)
kaloci93 1 year ago
hmm i think ppl forgot that paragon kiled this on a buggy boss and also Paragon didnt get the most world first kills and that Method were on top for a while until 10/13 i think. and also Method is an older guild and they are on my server so i suport method 100% and also ppl who say "Paragon are better!!" Have you killed these bosse or even tried them? No i can tell you from looking at the fight and also doing /who method that they spent alot of time wiping so just downing this is Very good work
skiisgood 1 year ago
@skiisgood wow, wow, wow, wow.... ur so clueless mate. Ofc they kill the easyer bosses world first, thats the method mentality. they are so cocky as fuck about getting " alliance first kills" so fill up their e-penis, that they struggle on the real hard shit. Method will always be behind the real top guilds.
Paragon doesnt really care about getting world first off every kill, they care about end bosses. Thats why they slacked on cho'gall and for the horde got world first there.
Mkwalgreen 1 year ago
@szion66
1) paragon took 12 druids (4 of them are always in the main raiding team, so only + 8); 2) how would you explain other world first kills? They didn't bug other bosses.
And doesn't matter if you bug it or not, paragon still has world first. Would you be happier if anyone else would have gotten world first using this bug? Because it would be spotted by other guild that nefarian takes too much damage from rip
Xawix 1 year ago
@Xawix yes but they still needed to expoit a bug. This is the way blizz wanted the fight to be. And also I bet alot more ppl prefer method to paragon for the following reasons
1) Paragon are finnish
2) Paragon dont actually impress ppl when the have to exploit a bit like ensidia really (back in WOTLK)
3) they are only Ally guild in top 5
4) They have lives after hardcore and i have been on there vent and a very nice guys.
5) they've been around since classic and paragon havent
skiisgood 1 year ago
@skiisgood
Reason why i dont like method:
1) claiming meaningless world alliance first kills and even "after the ripthotfix world first kills"
2) Some people in that guild have serious attitude problems, e peen.
3) Trying to diss paragon with a screenshot, so unrespectfull
4) Another pointer towards attitude problems, look it up on the application form on their side.
Mkwalgreen 1 year ago
@Mkwalgreen Couldn't agree more, one of my current realmies used to be in method but just for a week and he left! Reason: "Method is a bunch of addicts who litteraly play 7/7 and have no sense of playing the game relaxed. Most of them are just plain dull and probably have no sense of how to approach this game in a normal way and fll of emos!"
janjan55555 1 year ago
@Mkwalgreen Couldn't agree more, one of my current realmies used to be in method but just for a week and he left! Reason: "Method is a bunch of addicts who litteraly play 7/7 and have no sense of playing the game relaxed. Most of them are just plain dull and probably have no sense of how to approach this game in a normal way and fll of emos!"
janjan55555 1 year ago
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joaosdw 1 year ago
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joaosdw 1 year ago
@janjan55555 umad?
joaosdw 1 year ago
@joaosdw nope I just think they are a bunch of douchebags :)
janjan55555 1 year ago
@skiisgood I have seen a couple of members of paragon and I can say honestly they are by far WOW's most professional gamers/most skilled gamers in the word as a team (!)! They dont care about others opinion/fanboys/e-net drama, they are only here for the kills and work EXTREMELY well together as a team, this as a result of national coherence ofcourse. Paragon cleared Yogg+0 waaay faster before method and this fight is extremely unforgiven (Could only kill it after 1.5 months of trying!)
janjan55555 1 year ago
@janjan55555 you're a comedian?
darthchrono 1 year ago
@darthchrono no I am dead serious
janjan55555 1 year ago
Prefer to watch paragon but that ok too
mrzelic 1 year ago
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kavvMichael 1 year ago
Love how people are more focused on bashing other guilds rather than just give out a simple congratulation on the 2nd world 25man hc kill of Nef.
Hean 1 year ago
paragon is shit they need to stack 20 druids to get kill on buged boss ...
szion66 1 year ago
grats for world first without exploit
joe4951 1 year ago 2
@joe4951 this was world 2nd blind and paragon didnt use any exploits..
jeesjees100 1 year ago
@joe4951 fuck you
jeesjees100 11 months ago
sorry for the greek guys but (to psofa gamidi ola ta lefta sto telos apo vent :P)
realy nice kill btw gz method
spaik3 1 year ago
GZ to the "real" world 1st. paragon sux =)
mrmikkedotcom 1 year ago
@MisanthropieVeklor sorry but paragons still got the real world first how long it takes to understand it?
jeesjees100 1 year ago
I see this as world 2nd
jeesjees100 1 year ago
etsi to gamidi psofa!!!
xXxEmpeixXx 1 year ago
And Con-Fucking-Grats Method. Bloody Brilliant.
joshparsons 1 year ago
"(1st kill after Rip "hotfix")"
HAHAHAHAH THEY MAD
hellotheresirdude 1 year ago
GJ, Method! Pretty nice kill, btw
whiterewan 1 year ago
Psofa gamhdi... gf apla! :P
BillyRazzor 1 year ago
rofl time for vacation yo
IRideBike00000000000 1 year ago
so because Paragon have druid alts available that means their kill isnt legit? catch a grip, you can see dots are still scaling ridiculously, maybe not to the proportion that rip was, but its still insane. Paragon were smart and used a tactic that was put in the game by Blizzard the only difference was that they had the druid alts/brains to use it, gz on your world 2nd Method
natemc91 1 year ago
@natemc91 Actually the ability has since been hotfixed and changed from a damage increase to a haste increase. In WotLK Ensidia was the first kill in the world to get a LK25 kill, blizzard then banned them all for 72 hours and revoked the kill for no legitamate reason, which almost caused them to disband as a guild, (they didnt know they were exploiting). Paragon knew what they were doing, which is why they stacked classes, yet Blizzard didn't care this time around. They cheated.
63517489 1 year ago
@63517489 There's a difference between "Clever use of Game Mechanics" and "Oh hey, tossing this bomb (which is the wrong one to use in a DPS rotation by the way) at the throne means that we can ignore the hardest part of the fight entirely!"
Nihilum/Ensidia has been using exploits as their modus operandi since C'thun, reporting them after the kill so no one else can do it. But go ahead, continue to be a fanboy.
joshparsons 1 year ago
@joshparsons Pretty much everything that you said was true, but that they've been exploiting constantly since C'thun is just not true till LK25. But then again, just "continue to be a hater".
klakicool 1 year ago
@klakicool They blamed Blizzard for not testing Eredar Twins, but who thinks an entire raid's going to stand on a -lamp- ? 25 Soulstones for Grand Crusade? Or spam your oozling to cap out your debuffs and stay in C'thun?
The list goes on. They're solid players when they're not exploiting, but they're not the best. Another tier of raiding with them falling even further behind shows that if they can't take advantage of it they just don't measure up to the standards that Method does. lol10man?
joshparsons 1 year ago
@joshparsons Yes, infact they are the best, blind fanboys everywhere it seems, method is an amazing guild, but they lost out to paragon in this tier of raiding, if they thought of stacking feral druids they would have.
mitre991 1 year ago
@mitre991 But they didn't let them set them back more than a week. Method impressed me, Paragon got it first. Just like the 7:35 Light of Dawn kill for Stars was bloody impressive even when that wasn't "First".
joshparsons 1 year ago
@mitre991 Errr, please ignore the seven-thirty-five tag, apparently I forgot youtube does that.
joshparsons 1 year ago
@joshparsons Yes they are actually, any *good* rogue eng used those bombs in 3.3, they were thrown as a filler when the rogue didn't have enough energy to perform an ability.
AolxHangover 1 year ago
@AolxHangover Any *good* player knew that you used Goblin Sapper Charges, not Saronite Bombs. Try harder?
joshparsons 1 year ago
@joshparsons lol? Maybe you should learn harder next time.
AolxHangover 1 year ago
@63517489 no video of Ensidias LK25 kill was ever released, further proving the fact they knew exactly what they were doing, deliberately exploiting to ignore the hardest part of the boss at the time, the valkyrs(dps requirements etc). class stacking is not an exploit.
natemc91 1 year ago
@natemc91 like paragon did it is but thats my oppinion. Its just not how its supposed to be played....imho
Azalen24 1 year ago
hunter: what addon is that to show the ability icon in the middle when the cooldown is up? thank you!
ryanaprice1 1 year ago
And to add a little more, do you really believe method without the rip fix you would have beated paragon? reallly??? no indeed thats what i tought. They faceroll encounters you struggle on with or without " exploits". i remember the kill on chimaeron some douchebag on your vent got he's epenis so high. that he wasnt even happy as a guild to kill it. "comon guys wtf is that screaming about" Yes thats the mentality of method. fucking shit douchebags with skill and a massive e peen. welcome to meth
Mkwalgreen 1 year ago
fuck method tbh, they are always this fucking cocky about this shit. from day1 they started their guild till now they are cocky as fuck, 0 respect for other guilds and to keep there e-penis high they claim " allaince first" kills.. wtf is that shit?
Posting a full druid screenshot as their guild kill screenshot is just fucking sad as fuck just to diss paragon. Remember method, you will always be 1 or 2 steps behind, you always haven been and you always will. cya's
Mkwalgreen 1 year ago
@Mkwalgreen Shut up you nerd, paragons kill isn't legit, they deserved 3 days ban for that shit.
freestyle0892 1 year ago
@freestyle0892
Because of what? using the encounter the way it was build? Finding excuses and blame other guilds for not getting world first because of some retarted mechanic? Thats why method didnt kill it before paragon because they were short on druids is the next excuse? or wait " we didnt wanted to use the exploit" Blizzard monitors every hc game including sinestra kill.. Blizz knew it. Blame blizz if you wanna blame anybody. but i blame method for being cocky twats.
Mkwalgreen 1 year ago
@Mkwalgreen will you have my babies for that?