All the predictable noise about whether gay is normal or not is so last century - and so irrelevant. The point is, here are 12 kids with a good home, a family, united together with two obviously loving and caring parents, kids who might otherwise have been bounced around foster care for years, been separated from their siblings, been lost in the shuffle and possibly lost to society. It's clear as holy water that these men are doing God's work.
Please don't blaspheme God's Holy name, by saying that 2 practising homosexuals are doings God's work. God calls homosexuality an abomination and these children are being bought up in an unhealthy, immoral environment.
God intended children to have the balance of both a mother and a father. To bring children up in homosexuality is to affect their mental health and psyche. Parents are children's mentors, these kids are not being brought up to have Godly values and will grow up believing that this sinful, immoral lifestyle is normal.
@AussieGeoffA Yes im aware of Dr. Evelyn Hookers work. Your right, however her experiments did not *prove* that you were born gay, its just stopped people from calling homosexuality a mental disorder. Her experiments ere done on 60 individuals, which hardly represents the gay community as a whole. Believe it or not shes mentioned in the article i was speaking of (i'm desperately trying to find it) If you look at the history behind why Homosexuality was removed from the disorders list. It was a
Christians believe what they want to believe. They believed that keeping human beings in chains because they were inferior and meant to be their slaves. After giving up that idea, Christians still continued using and abusing others to suit their own pleasures and desires and of course their own greed. Today Christians still feel it's perfectly alright to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation. Once even that becomes unacceptable, what will these poor holier than thou people do for fun?
All of the people leaving rude and negative comments on this video are nothing more than bigots with hearts full of hate. Instead of growing up in orphanages and foster homes, being separated from their siblings, these children are in a loving home with two parents who seem to love each other and their children very much. To those of you being hateful, maybe you should do some soul searching an figure out what happened in your life to make you so close minded and prejudiced.
@91eab It's not a mistake and being gay is not a choice. In fact post evidence that supports that is a choice. Then go pray to god and die to get to heaven a lot faster. The world needs less bigots.
@TheDrewManXD Actually there is no evidence to suggest you are "born gay". Infact that evidence seems to point to ones personal life experience. E.g many gay people were bullied at school and/or were not successful with the girls because they were too shy, insecure etc. These people would subsequently give up trying with girls. There is no evidence whatsoever that suggests people are born gay.
@atheistrocker100 Yes but there are logical theories. Gay is a choice has no logical theory. Born has explanations but choice has nothing that can help it. Besides the argument is stupid anyway. Finding if gay is choice or born is as pointless as trying to find if an sculpture is black or white. I never made a choice to be gay. I would have been straight but I man up to who I am. Take it from somebody who knows this in first person. It is NOT a choice.
@TheDrewManXD There are logical theory's, but the evidence for them is not there. If you were born gay, you would be able to identify a gay gene/hormone, but there is no such thing. Also, if there were a gay gene, it would have disappeared millions of years ago, due to natural selection. Animals that partner up with their own do not pass on their genes. It may not be a concious choice, but you are certainly not born gay.
@atheistrocker100 Are you suggesting a subconscious development possibly caused by any defect to the subconscious itself? How do you know that the "gay gene" evolved know and not millions of years ago? Could it be a subconscious development that established itself at puberty and not at birth?
@TheDrewManXD "caused by any defect to the subconscious itself" No, The research suggests people who did not feel comfortable or who were shy around girls when they were younger end up being gay. It means you haven't consciously decided to be gay. Rather, the experience you have had in life has made you gay. There is no gay gene. My point about the sex thing is that a penis is obviously meant to go into the vagina, not up the arse. It just seems unnatural and hence, a little distasteful.
It is no doubt also true that many straight men were bullied at school and/or were not successful with the girls", were shy, etc. You make an old, and outdated, cause/effect connection, implying that men become gay because they were bullied (or had a clinging mother or distant father), when it is equally if not more likely that these people are bullied because they are perceived as "different", that fathers who sense that their sons are "different" become distant.
Speaking for myself, I was neither shy, nor unpopular, nor bullied, nor awkward around girls. In fact I chased girls as a little guy, was "engaged" at age 7 and dated all through high school and college. I've always had great relationships with women - just not intimate ones. My physical attraction is to men, and it is that simple. Did I "give up trying" with girls? I'd say I "gave up" disappointing them!
I agree! Homosexuals should NOT have children! It is just disgusting and wrong to put innocent children in that situation! If you choose not be "gay" thats YOUR mistake! Don't drag children into your mistake!
How do they have a mother figure in their lives? And I'm not talking about a flamboyant fagot I mean do they have a woman figure too? Maybe a friend of the family?
@HitleriteNazi So we should abolish all single fathers in the world? Some women are cold and heartless bitches. The father has to leave them for the sake of the child. PLEASE tell me you aren't putting god into this. God's will consists of murder of children, women, gays, innocent christians, and people with other believes. Leave your imaginary friend out of this and give me something logical and peaceful.
@TheDrewManXD I have no problem with someone being gay, but one thing i can't understand is why gay people chose to have sex with each other? I know you'll probably say something like "its a way of expressing love" but i think thats BS. Love goes much deeper than having sex. Not wanting to sound crude, but do you not feel any loss of dignity at all, when you let another man ejaculate up your bum hole?
@atheistrocker100 Its the same way with you actually. Does it feel sexist to you when a man takes control of you? You likely don't and that is the same with homosexuals. Sex is sex. Do what makes you happy.
@AussieGeoffA much more comfortable with the male form - if for example they had baths with each other etc.- There are many psychological reasons that are perfectly plausible, and are backed by evidence. "Nature contains HUNDREDS of species which exhibit.... " lol the article covers this common misconception as well. Put simply, if an animal wants to quench its sexual urges, it wont mind what hole it goes in. "I suggest you seek professional help" lol ironic as its you with the mental disorder.
@AussieGeoffA No i have no problem with someone being gay. I do find the fact that the majority of gays insist on having sex a little distasteful. And yes i know homosexuality exists, my point was, no one is born gay. Im not a lesbian btw.
1. Prove it. The personal life experiences of millions of gay people - and of studies done with gay siblings - testify otherwise.
2. So what? I have yet to find a homophobe who can adequately explain why - even if homosexuality was TOTALLY AND UTTERLY AND UNDENIABLY a choice after birth - why that should negate their equal human rights?
@AussieGeoffA gay Left wing movement that pushed this through. Simply because a "mental disorder" was deemed a derogatory term, when actually it isn't. The culture iv been brought up in sees a "mental disorder" as quite a negative term but in fact psychologists believe everyone has at least one metal disorder, E.g For some reason i have to put my car radio on a number divisible by 5. Thats classed as a mental disorder. My point remains though, where is your evidence to *prove* you're born gay?
@atheistrocker100 "left wing gay movement" - oh I see. And I'm the one with a mental disorder?
Let's be blunt: are you a hairdresser & tights model or a uni student? Atheist or agnostic or theist? Gays make you sick but you're not homophobic? You're also the world's leading expert in psychology, zoology and genetics - oh, and left wing gay politics? Ironic how your claims contain enough inconsistencies to suggest possible psychological issues of your own.
@AussieGeoffA I'm a hairdresser & tights model and was when i was at uni. I'm currently looking into being a teacher of either history or psychology. I went to uni in England and lived there for 4 years. graduated last year. I'm an agnostic but for me Christianity makes perfect sense of the world, the only problem i had was the problem of suffering. Why would a loving God make us suffer, but i'v found an answer to that question. Iv still not made my mind up but i reckon Jesus was God incarnate.
Sorry, but no one buys into your fairytale about going to uni and graduating. Anyone stupid enough to believe that gay men turned gay because they couldn't get the girls at school did not study psychology. You are not fooling anyone here. You are just a dumb bimbo who at best manages to visit a community college. You are an insult to your username and anyone who uses her/his brain.
Of course it bothers you, bimbo. ^_^ Why else would you lie about going to uni and graduating (haha, maybe from the "university" Kent Hovind graduated from) to try and give your stupidity, igorance and hypocracy a hint of credibility? Well, it's not working.
Me proving to you that I was born gay? Well, that would be difficult since I was born straight. XD Could you get any dumber?
And yes, there is evidence that gays are born gay. If you had ever seen a university from the inside and looked at some scientific literature regarding the matter you would know. Instead you chose to act like a creationist. Is there anything honest about you but your stupidity? Fake academic, fake atheist..
Again, gays have different brains from birth on, there are studies on twins, boys more likely to be gay the more older male siblings they have, homosexual behavior showing very early in life when we kids show first interested in love/sexuality and asking the millions of gays themselves might be a good idea. There is no evidence whatsoever suggesting they are not gay from birth.
But hey, I guess the stupid bimbo who claims to have studied psychology and believes that boys turn gay because the girls in school didn't like them knows better than scientists and millions of gays. XD
And additionally to lying about your academic achiements (which is illegal as far as I know) you are also lying about being and atheist. You are an agnostic theist at best.
@MsHyde1 Yes i am kind of an agnostic/theist. Do you actually realise how stupid you look? you're a random gay guy from the internet trying to convince me that you know more about my own life than i do? This is the last comment im making, people who just spout BS and insults usually do so because they have nothing intelligent to say. For the last time, what evidence have you and these "scientists" got to prove you are born gay?
"..trying to convince me that you know more about my own life than i do?"
Says the stupid bimbo constantly claiming that a straight woman is a gay dude. Do you realise how stupid you look?
There is evidence that gays are born gay. There is no evidence suggesting otherwise. You have so far failed to provide evidence for your claim. And please prove that you were born straight,too! XD
And I don't need to hear you sprouting your demented crap in person to know that you are a liar. A theist who believes that gays become gay because the girls at school didn't like them did not go to and graduated from any kind of real university.
@MsHyde1 I love how hypocritical you are. Defending gay people but then insulting me because of the hair colour i was born with? which by the way is actually brown ( it goes blonde in summer) The burden of proof is on you. Your taste in music is a result of the culture you were brought up in, we say this because there are no genes that reveal ones taste in music, likewise with homosexuality. If its not in the genes, it can only possibly be in the brain. very simple. So do you have any evidence?
Oh please, I can see the darker hair growing out from here. You blond hair is as fake as your university degree and your agnosticism.
"If its not in the genes, it can only possibly be in the brain."
The stupid, it hurts. I guess they didn't teach you about hormons at your fantasy university. And where is the heterosexual gene? Proof that you were born heterosexual. The difference in the brain from birth on is a fact.
Oh crap, I've just read some of your older posts. You are a fucking fanatical christian apologist! The fact that you become more christian by reading the bible alone proves the extend of you stupidity. Your comments are a nonstop anti-atheist, anti-gay hate litany. Yeah, religion saved the world, cultures co-existing cause communism, evolution means man came from ape and anyone who is pro equal rights is gaaay!
@MsHyde1 Yes i do find Christianity more plausible than believing the universe is a result of mindless, unguided processes. I'm not anti anything, i just happen to know how unpleasant atheists are and you do nothing to change that view. Judging by your comments you're just a little 12 year old attention seeker, who just hurls insults because you can't understand the argument.
@MsHyde1@AussieGeoffA "and where is the heterosexual gene" You've just proven my point! There isn't one, because its all down to ones life experience. Another example was if a woman was raped by a man, she would likely end up being gay, because she could not trust men. There are SOOO MANY differer't factors/variations that determine ones sexual orientation. The fact you believe you are born with it just shows how stupid you both are,
Haha, the christian fundie is back! "Proof that you were born gay!", "Proof that Gawd doesn't exist!" "Show me the Crocoduck". "I'll refuse to read up on your evidence!1!"
BWAHAHAHAH!
And you have to talk about ad hominem attacks, Ms "Ew, you are fat, I hate atheists, gays are unnatural, everyone who is pro equal rights is gaaay!", you nasty hypocrite.
And I see now you are sprouting more bogus science. I doubt you even graduated from high school. XD
@AussieGeoffA "You're also the world's leading expert in psychology, zoology and genetics" I'm flattered, thank you.
Gays don't make me sick, Gay sex makes me a little queezy, (as long as they keep it private then whatever) I just hate gays who are in your face about it. And you've just brilliantly evaded my question and main point. What evidence do you have to prove you were born Gay? If its not in the genes, its not natural, simple. Much like how you're taste in music is not in you're genes.
@AussieGeoffA (Im trying too find it on the internet, ill give you the link when i find it) They are pretty sure homosexuality is a psychological phenomenon. They believe this because there is no gay gene. There was a wide range of different findings. The shyness at school was just one example. You're right about the "Studies done with gay siblings" but its not genetic. in fact one of the reasons one could end up being homosexual is if they have grown up with male siblings. Some find themselves
What children really need is love. The world is changing for good in many ways. Too many children are being brought up by supposed 'normal' parents who hate each other and don't show their children love. You can see these kids are loved. I'm not gay nor activist was brought up in bible bashing church, but hatred breeds hatred and love begets more love.
It makes you sick that these men have taken in 12 "unwanted" children out of the goodness of their hearts and raised them in a loving and caring home?
"God who created all of humanity knows what is best for children, which is why only a man and woman can make a baby."
That statement doesn't even make sense. XD
Is that why god created man and women to physically and emotionally abuse, kill, sell or abandone their own children by the millions each year? :) Is that why he lets hetero parents die? 140 million orphans worldwide and most of them don't have love, a good life and are homeless and have an extremely high suicide rate.
"So a report is not valid just because it wasn't conducted by fellow homosexuals?Hmmm, that's great logic."
It's not legit because it was conducted by conservative associations with a religious agenda and is not based on their own studies and was rejected by pretty much everyone else. Have you even read this thing or just that one quote used by American fundie christians sites? XD
Er, yes, they are. Gays have different brains from BIRTH on and the more elder siblings a boy has the more likely he will be gay. Seperated twin turn often out to be both gay. Everything points to the influence of the mother's hormones on the baby during pregnancy.
More homosexual propaganda. .The observations were made on gay adults who had been sexually active for many years, not on children. .The director of the study said homosexuality was more environmental and developmental. than genetic.
Just as some people may be more susceptible to anger and rage doesin't mean it's an excuse to indulge in it,this applies to all sexual sins as well However Jesus gives anyone who sincerely seeks Him the power to overcome all sins.
No one gives a shit about your evil, immoral god and his perverse concept of "sin". ^_^ Clearly you are an evil human being who doesn't care about the good of people and the benefit to society and values the sick morals of primitive, supersticious, genocidal tribesmen over compassion, love and rational thinking.
By "no one gives a """" you mean all those who are entrenched in their immoral lifestyles. Of course God is offensive to you - his goodness and holiness shines a light on our sinful behaviour..
God is always regarded as the enemy to those in the grip of homosexuality.
Haha, yeah, that is why we immoral atheist gay-enabler nations have much lower homicide, rape, teen pregnancy, STD infection, abortion, divorce rates than religious nations like the US and a more socially responsible and healthy society. I guess that is why the UK is turing into the shithole of Europe that recently topped the US's violent crime rates and has the by far highest teen preg rates of Europe. Why are christans so violent, abusive, immoral and hypocrite?
In case you've been living under a rock both the USA and the UK are experiencing a sharp decline in morality and Chriistian values. I live in the UK and know that Christianity has been taken out of the classrooms for fear of offending Moslems, it's mocked in the media and the liberal lefties have done their utmost to promote immorality on a gross scale.
In case you have been living under a rock: the teen pregnancy rate in the US was the highest in the 50s and is the highest (including abortion and divorce) the most religious states in the US. In the UK some private schools are now teaching creationism. In any case the US numerous times more religious than Western and Northern European countries so even if it becomes less christian/stupid who do you explain nations without christian values are so much better?
If a person is a Christian and I mean a true God fearing Christian, not one in name only, then they will not be living an immoral lifestyle.
The fact that the emergent church has grossly diluted the gospel of Jesus Christ is why so many pseudo Christians are under the false belief that somehow this gives them a license to sin and nothing could be farther from the truth.
Jesus said, "If you love me you'll keep my commandments".
The fact that you don't give a shit about being good, loving and compassionate but get a boner for the idea of "sin", an invention of primitive, supersticious, violent people, shows what an immoral, evil humand being is. Not to mention hypocrite since you've got the nerve to talk about love. XD
Please explain to me why those who do not believe in god(s) and "sin" are the ones less criminal, violent, abusive and sexually irresponsible while more socially responsible?
@MsHyde1@AussieGeoffA which i expect is why you both just use ad hominem attacks instead of actually citing any evidence. And yes im aware of the hormones argument, problem is that it is just speculation. The hormonal theory has no evidence, its just an idea. And what about that gay lisp? are you alll born with that? See you later losers.
Christianity is all about love , real love, not the sensual, perverted animal lusts of the flesh you equate with love. Heterosexuality is normal, the way God created humans. Homosexuality is abnormal, that’s why 2 men or 2 women cannot procreate. In your mindset you see wrong as right and right as wrong.
The prisons in the UK are full of atheists who have zero morals. I already explained a true Christians obeys God commandments, so you argument is invalid.
We are NOT animals. We are spiritual beings made in God's image. We have an immortal soul/spirit that will either spend eternity in hell or heaven.
God designed a man and woman to have sex in within a monogamous marriage.
Homosexuals have an STD that they can never ever cure, that they will take with them into eternity and that is called "sexually transmitted damnation".
Haha, it is a scientific facts that we are animals. You on the other hand have nothing but blind fairth. In fact animals are more morals because they are innocent by nature and don't kill their own kind in mass.
Your "God" also designed homosexuals and sterile people. So again, how dare you suggest that they are abnormal?
"Homosexuals have an STD that they can never ever cure.."
Like I said, you are digusting, immoral, evil and full of hate and self-righteousness.
We are not animals, but of course you behave like one, so I can see why you think that way.
God didn't create anyone gay nor did he make people sterile. You are responsible for your own sinful lifestyle.
Ha, don't make me laugh you don't know the meaning of the word moral. You are dead from the neck up, the whole of your identity revolves around cultivating your sensual nature.. Being carnally minded makes you an enemy of God!
Er, yes, we are animals. Your beliefs have nothing to do with facts.
Haha, this is getting better and better. XD Wow, you really are evil personfied. That is why your religion the way you interprete it is so perverse. You just suggested that the sterile and gay people are being punished by being born gay or sterile because, oh wait for it, your psycho of a "god" created original sin.
Evolution is a lie.,there are no transitional fossils or any evidence of macro evolution.
I didn't suggest anything of the kind. Sterility may be caused by health factors, including diseases like PID and chlamydia which can be caused by sexual promiscuity.
God did not create anyone gay, just as He didn;t create peodophiles or rapists,
"Evolution is a lie.,there are no transitional fossils or any evidence of macro evolution."
Bwahaha, oh shit, a creatard. Show me the crocoduck! XD
And yes, you did suggest that. All the the sterile people we did not become sterile by STD are abnormal according to you, you sick fuck! And even PID and chlamydia can be contracted from your first sexual partner/husband/wife, you asshole.
You are losing the plot again. A married couple do not have to procreate, who knows what health problems can cause sterility, too numerous to mention here. The point is God designed a man and woman for marriage. The fact that the opposite sexes have complimentary reproduction organs further demonstrates this.
If a man and woman both stay chaste until marriage how on earth can they contract a STD?
You moron, not only can PID have other causes than sexual intercourse, the majority of cases of infertility are NOT caused by STDs. So are those people all abnormal because your "god" created them sterile? That is what you are suggesting.
"The point is God designed a man and woman for marriage."
No, "he" didn't. Marriage is a cultural phenomenon and your "god" also created steriles and gays and other intersting ways to avoid overpopulation and conflicts in groups. ^_^
"You can't blame God for your perversion, God is not the author of sin, mankind is."
Haha, sin is a fantasy. It does only exist in your perverted religion. But the god you believe in is allknowing and thus created us with urges he then called sin in his perversion and evilness. And don't even bring up free will. If he is allknowing he still knew everything including behavior out of free will.
"There are many homosexuals who have been liberated from the lifestyle through Jesus Christ."
Without the sickness and perversion of your life-hostile religion those poor people would not believe there was something wrong with them. And they have not been libertated, they surpressed their nature and forced themselves into abstince or sex with women, which is abnormal. It's basically rape of mind and body. Only religion can bring forth something that wrong.
Gays just can't bear the thought that someone could be liberated from their deviant lifestyle .Because that means you can no longer hide your sin behind the false shambolic "I'm born with it" mentality.
Many ex homosexuals have freely admitted they have faced the most intense hatred and hostility from other homosexuals when leaving the lifestyle ..
Jesus came to set the captives free and that includes all sins including homosexuality.
"Because that means you can no longer hide your sin behind the false shambolic "I'm born with it" mentality."
No, it means your are scaring or letting yourself be scared into denying yourself and act against your nature. Strong people might sometimes be disgusted by the weakness of "ex"-gays but that is unfair because those poor people are victims of a perverse religious cult.
And homosexuality is no more a lifestyle than heterosexuality, you ignorant moron.
And again, how do you explain that more religious countries are so evil and immoral while atheist, gay-accepting countries are so much better? Huh? Still now aswer, you coward?
Nah, there is no infallible and inerrant book containing hundreds of fulfilled prophecies written about pink unicorns, on the other hand the Bible is the inspired word of God.
You see, the moment you draw your last breath on this earth you will know that you have been horribly deceived.
@RobJohnII another scare tactic? arent you bored of that? i know i am. have your little delusions. just remember, the light youll see seconds before you die isnt heaven, its just your body dying. thats gonna be the last thing you see.
@RobJohnII oh man.. give up already. youre boring. i dont have a belief and im waaay too smart to believe in anything that bible has to say. even kids realize its full of shit. believe what you want to believe, just keep it for yourself. isnt that the same thing you say to gay people? practice what you preach.
No actually we don't. say keep it to yourselves. The bible teaches that God has love for homosexuals, but HATES their sin. He wishes no one to perish, but all to come to repentance through faith in Jeus Christ.
If you die in sin & unbelief , your sins are not covered by the shed blood of Jesus Christ and you will spend an eternity separated from God. .
@RobJohnII no, youre not keeping it to yourself. youre pushing your agenda. nobody is denying your rights, while you deny rights that other people deserve.
@RobJohnII there are no moral absolutes. try seeing the big picture.. its a big world out there. not all people share your morals. even god isnt absolute (well the idea of it), because there are many gods and all of them are real to different people.
hell is a scare tactic and a mean to keep you in control. did you even wonder why believers are called "a flock"? no? think about it. you have no minds of your own. you would follow your god off a cliff. its silly.
@RobJohnII You are so full of shit I can smell you from Canada! Let me guess! you live in a fall out zone where they tested nuclear bombs in the 50s? Am I right?:) lol You and people who think like you are brainwashed ,brain dead people! Don't even respond I have no use for the walking brain dead! All you religious people talk the same bullshit with nothing new to bring to the table! You are lazy thinkers!
You homosexuals are the ones full of hate, you use filthy language and try and intimidate everyone who doesn't agree with your lifestyle into submission.
Sorry, but it's God's word that counts, not yours and it's Him you will have to answer to on Judgment Day .
And again, explain how the US with an.. oh, 80% something of christians (unlike some EU countries with 80% something atheists) has so much higher violent crime, rape, STD infection, teen pregacy, abortion and divorce rates than the evil atheist countries as well social Darwinism, lack of labors rights, crappy health care and the highest infant mortality rates of the Western world? Explain it, you coward!
But you know what? It is easy to explain why the atheist countries are so much better than the religious ones. Because you are the best example that religious fanatism breeds stupidity, hatred and an abnormal attitude towards sexuality and nature in general, not to mention the mind-boggling grade of arrogance and self-righteousness. So no wonder religious countries are so more violent, sexually out of control, greedy and without compassion for their fellow man. ^_^
You can't seem to grasp what Christianity means. It means trusting in Jesus, being Christ like. The UK is no longer a Christian country and this is reflected in the current moral decline.. Anyone can call themselves a Christian on paper, but if they are not walking in truth and wilfully carry on sinning then they are NO Christians at all. You need to be able to distinguish true Christianity from pseudo Christianity.
You don't seem to grasp that the UK and the US are different countries. The US is a Christian country and has much higher homicide, rape, teen pregnancy, STD infection, abortion and divorce rates than European countries with 50% - more than 80% atheists. You also don't seem to grasp that the UK is still doing better than the US and that the countries with the lowest above mentioned rates have higher atheist % than the UK, some MUCH higher. So again, explain that!
Again Jesus says you shall know them by their fruit. Many people who classify themselves as Christians on paper in the USA are Christians in name only.
Attending sunday school as a child or attending church every now and then does not make a Christian.
Jesus said unless a person is born again, they cannot enter the kingdom of heaven. Being born again means repenting of your past sins and being given a new heart and mind,
"Again Jesus says you shall know them by their fruit." So in other words since atheists in Europe are better people we are actually the better christians than actual christians. Hilarious. It is pretty obvious that being religious correlates to violence, lack of education, hatred towards others, self-righteousness, sexual and social irresponsibility and health issues not to mention that odd obession with war-mongering.
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders the sexually immoral, thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
Then I guess you christians are fucked because you are so much more criminal, violent, abusive, sexually and socially irresponsible, greedy and self-righteous than atheists.
You are totally obsessed with bashing christianity and God, I bet you're foaming at the mouth whilst spewing out all your venom on a God you claim doesn't exist.
No, I am just passionate about criticising evil that has harmed our societry for centuries. I mean look at you, full of hatred, selfdisgust for your own human nature, desperately tying to ignore that the religious countries are far more violent, abusive, war-obesses, sexually and socially irresponsible and unhealthy. But no wonder you are so angry. You probably don't have sex or only when you want to make your wife pregnant. And you can't even jerk off. Poor thing. XD
I'm not angry, it's not my eternal security that is in jeopardy. You've done nothing but hurl insults at me, but of course that is the only recourse of atheists who are on the losing side.
You deserve them. You are immoral, evil, heartless, self-rightous and painfully ignorant. I have no idea how within your belief system you can assume that you will not go to hell for the hatred, lies, judgemental attitude, self-righteousness, arrogance and public preaching, not to mention your support of violent, abusive, unhealthy, greedy, sexually and socially irresponsible religious belief systems.
@RobJohnII he asked you valid questions. answer him. religious countries reject things that arent immoral and certainly dont harm anyone. and yeah, nothing wrong with homosexuality. if you say there is, that means youre hiding something about yourself. either youre a closet case (because no real straight person will care what gay people do, because it doesnt concern them), or a religious nutt. im leaning towards the second one with you.
God says homosexuality is a sin, so is adultery and fornication, stealing, murder, lying.
All of us have sinned and all of us need a saviour. We cannot earn our own salvation with our own good works, we are saved by grace through Jesus Christ.
Because God is holiness and righteousness He cannot allow sin to enter heaven. Therefore we can only be saved from eternal hell by repenting of our sins & placing our lives in the hands of Jesus Christ who renews us from within
@RobJohnII you have to know that not all people care what your god has to say. i for example dont believe in sin and if you call me immoral for that, youre a moron.
you can start preaching about heaven or hell, but it has been done 1000000x times and if it hasnt changed my mind until now, it certainly wont change it today. so give up with it and start using your brains. thing is ive noticed, you guys dont like to think and the book does it for you. you are devolving and thats sad.
@RobJohnII the difference between us is, that gay people dont harm anyone, while religious nuts like to push their agenda onto other people, thus harming them. you know, calling them fags, beating them up, killing them. gay people dont do that to you. grow a pair and mind your own fucking business. thanks.
No true Christian calls a homosexual names or treats them any differently than anyone else.. But we cannot say that homosexuality is right or moral when God has clearly condemned it.
Homosexuality is no different than any other temptation and any temptation can be overcome if a person gives Christ pre eminence in their life. Many ex homosexuals can attest to the amazing transformational power of Jesus.
@RobJohnII wow.. you dont give up do you? who are you (and your silly book) to tell people that they are wrong? youre nobody. you have no idea how sexuality of any kind works. homosexuality is normal and is not immoral. we all know bible isnt exactly the example of morals. did you kill your neighbours if you saw them working on sunday? no? well then youre not a true believer. see how stupid it is? you cannot pick and choose when it comes to the bible. all or nothing. have fun in jail.
I'm not claiming to be anybody, I'm just telling you God says that no homosexual can enter the kingdom of heaven.
Homosexuals use a part of their anatomy in a way God never intended. .. God designed that part of the anatomy for eliminating waste from the body..
What you are referring to is the Old covenant which was given to the Jewish nation of Israel, Christians live under the New Covenant and do not have to observe the sabbath.
@RobJohnII im telling you that i dont care what your god says. its silly to me. everybody uses their anatomy for different stuff. since god never said anything, except people who wrote it and the flock (you) and the creators of the bible and you dont matter. so the old one is wrong? now now, thats not cool of you. it is "the word of god" how can you not do what it says?
"Please explain how the teachings of Jesus Christ are immoral?"
If he even existed he believed in a god that is a perverse, evil tryant. That already make "Jesus" a bad address from moral direction. He started the whole shit about damnation and salvation, which is one of the greatest evil humankind ever made up and caused endless suffering through the evil things humans did to become "saved".
"Judgment Day is going to be a terrible day for you."
Man, it must make you so mad that this is irrelevant to me and even the majority of christians. XD And being called a swine is actually a compliment. Lovely animals, unlike you.
Not to mention that he had the chance to get rid of that perverted "sin" insanity and didn't take it. That as well caused and still causes endless psychological and psysical suffering because people like you have been and still are torturing, abusing, hurting and killing others for "committing sins" for centuries.
And to top that off an evil person can go to heaven if he accepts the skydaddy while the most caring, peaceful person will go to "hell" if they don't.
What you believe in is pure evil and immorality. And it has an effect on you. You could be a good, compassionate person, instead you are a self-righteous hater who can't cope with the fact that the most atheist countries are the best.
And again, explain how the US with an.. oh, 80% something of christians (unlike some EU countries with 80% something atheists) has so much higher violent crime, rape, STD infection, teen pregacy, abortion and divorce rates than the evil atheist countries as well social Darwinism, lack of labors rights, crappy health care and the highest infant mortality rates of the Western world? Explain it, you coward!
And again, how do you explain that the USA with an extremely high percentage of theists has much higher homicide, rape, teen pregnancy, STD infection, abortion and divorce rates than Europe, huh, HUH? Don't bail out on that question, you coward! Why does the UK, where some schools teach creationism, evangelical cults pop up everywhere and no mandatory sex ed has the highest violent crime rates of the EU, as bad as the US, and the higest teen pregnancy rates?!
I've explained this point with you over and over, if you can't understand it I'm not repeating myself ad nauseum.I know no schools in the UK that teach creationism and yes sex education is now mandatory.
The people who have always pushed for the sex ed in this country are militant lefties who hate conventional family life . It has always been carried out on the pretext of preventing teen preganancies and Std's & has in fact, had exactly the opposite effect
"I know no schools in the UK that teach creationism and yes sex education is now mandatory."
Oh, now you have a god-complex as well? So because you don't know the schools that teach creationism they don't exist? They do, educate yourself. And no, sex ed is NOT mandatory in the UK. Parents can take their kids out of class and many do, hence your teen pregnancy and STD infection rates that are almost as high as in the US.
The percentage of people taking their kids out of sex ed classes would be I think Christians who don't want filth and lies taught to their kids, but they would make up a small minority. Your argument is invalid as usual.
List the schools that teach creationism or else put a sock in it.
"List the schools that teach creationism or else put a sock in it."
Google Vardy schools.
20% of students said they were taught creationism:
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Tony Blair even approved of that shit. I guess even a numbskull like you knows about the situation in the US were almost half of the populration beliefs in this crap.
Religion/creationsm/ignorance/no sex ed = high teen preg/STD/abortion rate and violent crime rates. ^_^
"It has always been carried out on the pretext of preventing teen preganancies and Std's & has in fact, had exactly the opposite effect"
Er, I thought you christians are not allowed to lie? ^_^ Again, sex ed is not mandatory in the UK, neither in the US. Consequently the UK and the US have the highest teen pregnancy and STD infection rates of the western world while the European countries with mandatory sex ed have the lowest. The earlier the lower the rates.
It is in all the schools I know. Maybe not in faith schools for Muslims only, but it is in mainstream schools. If you know different compile a list of schools that don't.
Sex ed is nothing more than a propaganda for promiscuity.
Haha, so you know all the schools of the UK? Sex ed is not mandatory at UK schools, parents can take their kids out of class for it. This is the law in your country. One would think you would know that.
"Sex ed is nothing more than a propaganda for promiscuity."
Yeah, I guess that is why teen pregnany, abortion and STD infection rates are the highest in the US and the UK, the countries of the western world that don't have mandatory sex ed. That is why a country like the Netherlands with early, mandatory sex ed has a 8-times lower teen pregnancy rate than the US. I guess that is why the US states that teach abstinence-only have the highest teen preg rates of the US.
And again, explain how the US with an.. oh, 80% something of christians (unlike some EU countries with 80% something atheists) has so much higher violent crime, rape, STD infection, teen pregacy, abortion and divorce rates than the evil atheist countries as well social Darwinism, lack of labors rights, crappy health care and the highest infant mortality rates of the Western world? Explain it, you coward!
And again, how do you explain that the USA with an extremely high percentage of theists has much higher homicide, rape, teen pregnancy, STD infection, abortion and divorce rates than Europe, huh, HUH? Don't bail out on that question, you coward! Why does the UK, where some schools teach creationism, evangelical cults pop up everywhere and no mandatory sex ed has the highest violent crime rates of the EU, as bad as the US, and the higest teen pregnancy rates?!
Explain it! Why are the European countries with percentages of atheists up to more than 80% who support gay rights so much more peaceful and sexually responsible, so much more socially responsible and compassionate? Why do divorce more seldom and abort their kids more seldom? Why are atheists underrepresented in prisons? Why do they have a higher IQ on average? Religion correlates with violence, hate and an unhealthy society so why do you support that? Why are you evil?
Listen mate, the UK is full of atheists who hate God and have no morals at all, that is why the place is such a mess. Stop with all this bullcrap about atheists being model citizens because it's a complete lie.
God commands that we should not lie, steal, commit adultery, murder, fornicate, take His name in vain, or dishonour our parents. Atheists flout all those commandments and true Christians don't so stop spouting such stupid rubbish.
Listen mate, the other European countries have much higher percentages of atheists and they have much lower violent crime, rape, teen pregnancy, STD infection, abortion divorce rates. You are the only EU country without mandatory sex ed because of religious morons and SURPRISE, highest teen pregnancy rates (related to STD and abortion) of Europe!
I don't know of any schools here that don't teach sex education, it is now mandatory. It's interesting to note that since sex ed classes have begun in the UK, teen pregnancies have risen dramatically and so has sexual promiscuity.
Sex education has failed, it's nothing more than a deliberate effort to debauch Christian morality.
woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow - congratulation guys
DalmaSong2011 16 hours ago
Wow these guys are awesome for adopting TWELVE kiddos! Cute family :)
teardropblue 1 day ago
All the predictable noise about whether gay is normal or not is so last century - and so irrelevant. The point is, here are 12 kids with a good home, a family, united together with two obviously loving and caring parents, kids who might otherwise have been bounced around foster care for years, been separated from their siblings, been lost in the shuffle and possibly lost to society. It's clear as holy water that these men are doing God's work.
satnitcboy 3 days ago
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Please don't blaspheme God's Holy name, by saying that 2 practising homosexuals are doings God's work. God calls homosexuality an abomination and these children are being bought up in an unhealthy, immoral environment.
RobJohnII 2 days ago
@RobJohnII
Keep telling yourself that. Then, just to be fair, ask the children.
satnitcboy 2 days ago
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God intended children to have the balance of both a mother and a father. To bring children up in homosexuality is to affect their mental health and psyche. Parents are children's mentors, these kids are not being brought up to have Godly values and will grow up believing that this sinful, immoral lifestyle is normal.
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AussieGeoffA 3 days ago
@AussieGeoffA Yes im aware of Dr. Evelyn Hookers work. Your right, however her experiments did not *prove* that you were born gay, its just stopped people from calling homosexuality a mental disorder. Her experiments ere done on 60 individuals, which hardly represents the gay community as a whole. Believe it or not shes mentioned in the article i was speaking of (i'm desperately trying to find it) If you look at the history behind why Homosexuality was removed from the disorders list. It was a
atheistrocker100 3 days ago
This is so cute!
hortulanus94 4 days ago
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Christians believe what they want to believe. They believed that keeping human beings in chains because they were inferior and meant to be their slaves. After giving up that idea, Christians still continued using and abusing others to suit their own pleasures and desires and of course their own greed. Today Christians still feel it's perfectly alright to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation. Once even that becomes unacceptable, what will these poor holier than thou people do for fun?
fannynoise 6 days ago
All of the people leaving rude and negative comments on this video are nothing more than bigots with hearts full of hate. Instead of growing up in orphanages and foster homes, being separated from their siblings, these children are in a loving home with two parents who seem to love each other and their children very much. To those of you being hateful, maybe you should do some soul searching an figure out what happened in your life to make you so close minded and prejudiced.
kathlimb 6 days ago
This is beautiful. Props to these fathers.<3
fuckthisIwannasing 1 week ago
I apologize for that typo. I meant to say: IF YOU CHOOSE TO BE GAY, THATS YOUR MISTAKE. BUT DONT DRAG CHILDREN INTO YOUR MISTAKE!!!
91eab 1 week ago
@91eab It's not a mistake and being gay is not a choice. In fact post evidence that supports that is a choice. Then go pray to god and die to get to heaven a lot faster. The world needs less bigots.
TheDrewManXD 5 days ago
@TheDrewManXD Actually there is no evidence to suggest you are "born gay". Infact that evidence seems to point to ones personal life experience. E.g many gay people were bullied at school and/or were not successful with the girls because they were too shy, insecure etc. These people would subsequently give up trying with girls. There is no evidence whatsoever that suggests people are born gay.
atheistrocker100 5 days ago
@atheistrocker100 Yes but there are logical theories. Gay is a choice has no logical theory. Born has explanations but choice has nothing that can help it. Besides the argument is stupid anyway. Finding if gay is choice or born is as pointless as trying to find if an sculpture is black or white. I never made a choice to be gay. I would have been straight but I man up to who I am. Take it from somebody who knows this in first person. It is NOT a choice.
TheDrewManXD 5 days ago
@TheDrewManXD There are logical theory's, but the evidence for them is not there. If you were born gay, you would be able to identify a gay gene/hormone, but there is no such thing. Also, if there were a gay gene, it would have disappeared millions of years ago, due to natural selection. Animals that partner up with their own do not pass on their genes. It may not be a concious choice, but you are certainly not born gay.
atheistrocker100 5 days ago
@atheistrocker100 Are you suggesting a subconscious development possibly caused by any defect to the subconscious itself? How do you know that the "gay gene" evolved know and not millions of years ago? Could it be a subconscious development that established itself at puberty and not at birth?
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@TheDrewManXD "caused by any defect to the subconscious itself" No, The research suggests people who did not feel comfortable or who were shy around girls when they were younger end up being gay. It means you haven't consciously decided to be gay. Rather, the experience you have had in life has made you gay. There is no gay gene. My point about the sex thing is that a penis is obviously meant to go into the vagina, not up the arse. It just seems unnatural and hence, a little distasteful.
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AussieGeoffA 3 days ago
It is no doubt also true that many straight men were bullied at school and/or were not successful with the girls", were shy, etc. You make an old, and outdated, cause/effect connection, implying that men become gay because they were bullied (or had a clinging mother or distant father), when it is equally if not more likely that these people are bullied because they are perceived as "different", that fathers who sense that their sons are "different" become distant.
satnitcboy 2 days ago
Speaking for myself, I was neither shy, nor unpopular, nor bullied, nor awkward around girls. In fact I chased girls as a little guy, was "engaged" at age 7 and dated all through high school and college. I've always had great relationships with women - just not intimate ones. My physical attraction is to men, and it is that simple. Did I "give up trying" with girls? I'd say I "gave up" disappointing them!
satnitcboy 2 days ago
@91eab if you choose to be ignorant, that is your mistake. But don't teach children your hate.
AussieGeoffA 3 days ago
I agree! Homosexuals should NOT have children! It is just disgusting and wrong to put innocent children in that situation! If you choose not be "gay" thats YOUR mistake! Don't drag children into your mistake!
91eab 1 week ago
@91eab I recall as a child in the 1960s, I overheard racists spouting identical excuses to oppose interracial marriage and families.
AussieGeoffA 3 days ago
How do they have a mother figure in their lives? And I'm not talking about a flamboyant fagot I mean do they have a woman figure too? Maybe a friend of the family?
HitleriteNazi 1 week ago
@HitleriteNazi Just like single parents they do not need a women figure.
TheDrewManXD 5 days ago
@TheDrewManXD YES THEY DO NEED A MOTHER! May GODs will be done!
HitleriteNazi 5 days ago
@HitleriteNazi So we should abolish all single fathers in the world? Some women are cold and heartless bitches. The father has to leave them for the sake of the child. PLEASE tell me you aren't putting god into this. God's will consists of murder of children, women, gays, innocent christians, and people with other believes. Leave your imaginary friend out of this and give me something logical and peaceful.
TheDrewManXD 5 days ago
@TheDrewManXD I have no problem with someone being gay, but one thing i can't understand is why gay people chose to have sex with each other? I know you'll probably say something like "its a way of expressing love" but i think thats BS. Love goes much deeper than having sex. Not wanting to sound crude, but do you not feel any loss of dignity at all, when you let another man ejaculate up your bum hole?
atheistrocker100 5 days ago
@atheistrocker100 Its the same way with you actually. Does it feel sexist to you when a man takes control of you? You likely don't and that is the same with homosexuals. Sex is sex. Do what makes you happy.
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@AussieGeoffA much more comfortable with the male form - if for example they had baths with each other etc.- There are many psychological reasons that are perfectly plausible, and are backed by evidence. "Nature contains HUNDREDS of species which exhibit.... " lol the article covers this common misconception as well. Put simply, if an animal wants to quench its sexual urges, it wont mind what hole it goes in. "I suggest you seek professional help" lol ironic as its you with the mental disorder.
atheistrocker100 3 days ago
@AussieGeoffA No i have no problem with someone being gay. I do find the fact that the majority of gays insist on having sex a little distasteful. And yes i know homosexuality exists, my point was, no one is born gay. Im not a lesbian btw.
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AussieGeoffA 3 days ago
@AussieGeoffA wrong noone is born gay
HoratiuGuitar 3 days ago
@HoratiuGuitar "noone is born gay".
1. Prove it. The personal life experiences of millions of gay people - and of studies done with gay siblings - testify otherwise.
2. So what? I have yet to find a homophobe who can adequately explain why - even if homosexuality was TOTALLY AND UTTERLY AND UNDENIABLY a choice after birth - why that should negate their equal human rights?
AussieGeoffA 3 days ago
@AussieGeoffA gay Left wing movement that pushed this through. Simply because a "mental disorder" was deemed a derogatory term, when actually it isn't. The culture iv been brought up in sees a "mental disorder" as quite a negative term but in fact psychologists believe everyone has at least one metal disorder, E.g For some reason i have to put my car radio on a number divisible by 5. Thats classed as a mental disorder. My point remains though, where is your evidence to *prove* you're born gay?
atheistrocker100 3 days ago
@atheistrocker100 "left wing gay movement" - oh I see. And I'm the one with a mental disorder?
Let's be blunt: are you a hairdresser & tights model or a uni student? Atheist or agnostic or theist? Gays make you sick but you're not homophobic? You're also the world's leading expert in psychology, zoology and genetics - oh, and left wing gay politics? Ironic how your claims contain enough inconsistencies to suggest possible psychological issues of your own.
Goodbye.
AussieGeoffA 3 days ago
@AussieGeoffA I'm a hairdresser & tights model and was when i was at uni. I'm currently looking into being a teacher of either history or psychology. I went to uni in England and lived there for 4 years. graduated last year. I'm an agnostic but for me Christianity makes perfect sense of the world, the only problem i had was the problem of suffering. Why would a loving God make us suffer, but i'v found an answer to that question. Iv still not made my mind up but i reckon Jesus was God incarnate.
atheistrocker100 3 days ago
@atheistrocker100:
Sorry, but no one buys into your fairytale about going to uni and graduating. Anyone stupid enough to believe that gay men turned gay because they couldn't get the girls at school did not study psychology. You are not fooling anyone here. You are just a dumb bimbo who at best manages to visit a community college. You are an insult to your username and anyone who uses her/his brain.
MsHyde1 3 days ago
@MsHyde1 lol you can believe or not, doesn't really bother me. Unless you can give evidence to prove you are born gay, then please don't comment me.
atheistrocker100 3 days ago
@atheistrocker100:
Of course it bothers you, bimbo. ^_^ Why else would you lie about going to uni and graduating (haha, maybe from the "university" Kent Hovind graduated from) to try and give your stupidity, igorance and hypocracy a hint of credibility? Well, it's not working.
MsHyde1 3 days ago
@MsHyde1 As i said believe whatever you want. You don't have any evidence to prove you were born gay do you
atheistrocker100 3 days ago
@atheistrocker100:
Me proving to you that I was born gay? Well, that would be difficult since I was born straight. XD Could you get any dumber?
And yes, there is evidence that gays are born gay. If you had ever seen a university from the inside and looked at some scientific literature regarding the matter you would know. Instead you chose to act like a creationist. Is there anything honest about you but your stupidity? Fake academic, fake atheist..
MsHyde1 3 days ago
@atheistrocker100:
Again, gays have different brains from birth on, there are studies on twins, boys more likely to be gay the more older male siblings they have, homosexual behavior showing very early in life when we kids show first interested in love/sexuality and asking the millions of gays themselves might be a good idea. There is no evidence whatsoever suggesting they are not gay from birth.
MsHyde1 3 days ago
@atheistrocker100:
But hey, I guess the stupid bimbo who claims to have studied psychology and believes that boys turn gay because the girls in school didn't like them knows better than scientists and millions of gays. XD
And additionally to lying about your academic achiements (which is illegal as far as I know) you are also lying about being and atheist. You are an agnostic theist at best.
MsHyde1 3 days ago
@MsHyde1 Yes i am kind of an agnostic/theist. Do you actually realise how stupid you look? you're a random gay guy from the internet trying to convince me that you know more about my own life than i do? This is the last comment im making, people who just spout BS and insults usually do so because they have nothing intelligent to say. For the last time, what evidence have you and these "scientists" got to prove you are born gay?
atheistrocker100 3 days ago
@atheistrocker100:
"..trying to convince me that you know more about my own life than i do?"
Says the stupid bimbo constantly claiming that a straight woman is a gay dude. Do you realise how stupid you look?
There is evidence that gays are born gay. There is no evidence suggesting otherwise. You have so far failed to provide evidence for your claim. And please prove that you were born straight,too! XD
MsHyde1 3 days ago
@atheistrocker100:
And I don't need to hear you sprouting your demented crap in person to know that you are a liar. A theist who believes that gays become gay because the girls at school didn't like them did not go to and graduated from any kind of real university.
MsHyde1 3 days ago
@MsHyde1 I love how hypocritical you are. Defending gay people but then insulting me because of the hair colour i was born with? which by the way is actually brown ( it goes blonde in summer) The burden of proof is on you. Your taste in music is a result of the culture you were brought up in, we say this because there are no genes that reveal ones taste in music, likewise with homosexuality. If its not in the genes, it can only possibly be in the brain. very simple. So do you have any evidence?
atheistrocker100 3 days ago
@atheistrocker100:
Oh please, I can see the darker hair growing out from here. You blond hair is as fake as your university degree and your agnosticism.
"If its not in the genes, it can only possibly be in the brain."
The stupid, it hurts. I guess they didn't teach you about hormons at your fantasy university. And where is the heterosexual gene? Proof that you were born heterosexual. The difference in the brain from birth on is a fact.
MsHyde1 3 days ago
@atheistrocker100:
You chose to bleach your hair so your look matches what you are. A stupid bimbo. It's your choice. It is not a choice to be born straight or gay.
MsHyde1 3 days ago
@atheistrocker100:
Oh crap, I've just read some of your older posts. You are a fucking fanatical christian apologist! The fact that you become more christian by reading the bible alone proves the extend of you stupidity. Your comments are a nonstop anti-atheist, anti-gay hate litany. Yeah, religion saved the world, cultures co-existing cause communism, evolution means man came from ape and anyone who is pro equal rights is gaaay!
MsHyde1 3 days ago
@MsHyde1 Yes i do find Christianity more plausible than believing the universe is a result of mindless, unguided processes. I'm not anti anything, i just happen to know how unpleasant atheists are and you do nothing to change that view. Judging by your comments you're just a little 12 year old attention seeker, who just hurls insults because you can't understand the argument.
atheistrocker100 2 days ago
@MsHyde1 @AussieGeoffA "and where is the heterosexual gene" You've just proven my point! There isn't one, because its all down to ones life experience. Another example was if a woman was raped by a man, she would likely end up being gay, because she could not trust men. There are SOOO MANY differer't factors/variations that determine ones sexual orientation. The fact you believe you are born with it just shows how stupid you both are,
atheistrocker100 2 days ago
@atheistrocker100:
Haha, the christian fundie is back! "Proof that you were born gay!", "Proof that Gawd doesn't exist!" "Show me the Crocoduck". "I'll refuse to read up on your evidence!1!"
BWAHAHAHAH!
And you have to talk about ad hominem attacks, Ms "Ew, you are fat, I hate atheists, gays are unnatural, everyone who is pro equal rights is gaaay!", you nasty hypocrite.
And I see now you are sprouting more bogus science. I doubt you even graduated from high school. XD
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AussieGeoffA 2 days ago
@MsHyde1 she's not agnostic or atheist. Her religious bigotry is shining through. Maybe she thinks that it's okay to tell lies for Jesus?
AussieGeoffA 2 days ago
@AussieGeoffA:
Those religious fanatics all seem to think it is okay to tell lies and spread hate for Jesus. But this one is particularly pathetic. :/
MsHyde1 2 days ago
@AussieGeoffA "You're also the world's leading expert in psychology, zoology and genetics" I'm flattered, thank you.
Gays don't make me sick, Gay sex makes me a little queezy, (as long as they keep it private then whatever) I just hate gays who are in your face about it. And you've just brilliantly evaded my question and main point. What evidence do you have to prove you were born Gay? If its not in the genes, its not natural, simple. Much like how you're taste in music is not in you're genes.
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AussieGeoffA 2 days ago
@AussieGeoffA (Im trying too find it on the internet, ill give you the link when i find it) They are pretty sure homosexuality is a psychological phenomenon. They believe this because there is no gay gene. There was a wide range of different findings. The shyness at school was just one example. You're right about the "Studies done with gay siblings" but its not genetic. in fact one of the reasons one could end up being homosexual is if they have grown up with male siblings. Some find themselves
atheistrocker100 3 days ago
What children really need is love. The world is changing for good in many ways. Too many children are being brought up by supposed 'normal' parents who hate each other and don't show their children love. You can see these kids are loved. I'm not gay nor activist was brought up in bible bashing church, but hatred breeds hatred and love begets more love.
1ladymari 1 week ago
wow you guys are amazing
davidshockey24 1 week ago
stop the world and let me off . inmates are running the asylum.....
muzzmann 1 week ago
Can we just leave religion out of this? 12 kids now have a wonderful and loving home. That's all that matters
lovegetsbetterintime 1 week ago
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This makes me feel sick.
atheistrocker100 1 week ago
@atheistrocker100
It makes you sick that these men have taken in 12 "unwanted" children out of the goodness of their hearts and raised them in a loving and caring home?
lovegetsbetterintime 1 week ago
@atheistrocker100 "this makes me feel sick" - then I suggest you seek professional help.
AussieGeoffA 3 days ago
@Indigphue:
"God who created all of humanity knows what is best for children, which is why only a man and woman can make a baby."
That statement doesn't even make sense. XD
Is that why god created man and women to physically and emotionally abuse, kill, sell or abandone their own children by the millions each year? :) Is that why he lets hetero parents die? 140 million orphans worldwide and most of them don't have love, a good life and are homeless and have an extremely high suicide rate.
MsHyde1 1 week ago
@Indigohue:
"So a report is not valid just because it wasn't conducted by fellow homosexuals?Hmmm, that's great logic."
It's not legit because it was conducted by conservative associations with a religious agenda and is not based on their own studies and was rejected by pretty much everyone else. Have you even read this thing or just that one quote used by American fundie christians sites? XD
MsHyde1 1 week ago
@Indigohue:
"There is no gay gene."
Who said that?
"No one is born gay."
Er, yes, they are. Gays have different brains from BIRTH on and the more elder siblings a boy has the more likely he will be gay. Seperated twin turn often out to be both gay. Everything points to the influence of the mother's hormones on the baby during pregnancy.
MsHyde1 1 week ago
More homosexual propaganda. .The observations were made on gay adults who had been sexually active for many years, not on children. .The director of the study said homosexuality was more environmental and developmental. than genetic.
Just as some people may be more susceptible to anger and rage doesin't mean it's an excuse to indulge in it,this applies to all sexual sins as well However Jesus gives anyone who sincerely seeks Him the power to overcome all sins.
Indigohue 3 days ago
@Indigohue:
No one gives a shit about your evil, immoral god and his perverse concept of "sin". ^_^ Clearly you are an evil human being who doesn't care about the good of people and the benefit to society and values the sick morals of primitive, supersticious, genocidal tribesmen over compassion, love and rational thinking.
MsHyde1 3 days ago
@MsHyde1
By "no one gives a """" you mean all those who are entrenched in their immoral lifestyles. Of course God is offensive to you - his goodness and holiness shines a light on our sinful behaviour..
God is always regarded as the enemy to those in the grip of homosexuality.
Indigohue 3 days ago
@Indigohue:
Haha, yeah, that is why we immoral atheist gay-enabler nations have much lower homicide, rape, teen pregnancy, STD infection, abortion, divorce rates than religious nations like the US and a more socially responsible and healthy society. I guess that is why the UK is turing into the shithole of Europe that recently topped the US's violent crime rates and has the by far highest teen preg rates of Europe. Why are christans so violent, abusive, immoral and hypocrite?
Trampadoo 3 days ago
@Trampadoo
In case you've been living under a rock both the USA and the UK are experiencing a sharp decline in morality and Chriistian values. I live in the UK and know that Christianity has been taken out of the classrooms for fear of offending Moslems, it's mocked in the media and the liberal lefties have done their utmost to promote immorality on a gross scale.
RobJohnII 3 days ago
@RobJohnII:
In case you have been living under a rock: the teen pregnancy rate in the US was the highest in the 50s and is the highest (including abortion and divorce) the most religious states in the US. In the UK some private schools are now teaching creationism. In any case the US numerous times more religious than Western and Northern European countries so even if it becomes less christian/stupid who do you explain nations without christian values are so much better?
MsHyde1 3 days ago
@MsHyde1
If a person is a Christian and I mean a true God fearing Christian, not one in name only, then they will not be living an immoral lifestyle.
The fact that the emergent church has grossly diluted the gospel of Jesus Christ is why so many pseudo Christians are under the false belief that somehow this gives them a license to sin and nothing could be farther from the truth.
Jesus said, "If you love me you'll keep my commandments".
RobJohnII 2 days ago
@RobJohnII:
The fact that you don't give a shit about being good, loving and compassionate but get a boner for the idea of "sin", an invention of primitive, supersticious, violent people, shows what an immoral, evil humand being is. Not to mention hypocrite since you've got the nerve to talk about love. XD
Please explain to me why those who do not believe in god(s) and "sin" are the ones less criminal, violent, abusive and sexually irresponsible while more socially responsible?
MsHyde1 2 days ago
@MsHyde1 @AussieGeoffA which i expect is why you both just use ad hominem attacks instead of actually citing any evidence. And yes im aware of the hormones argument, problem is that it is just speculation. The hormonal theory has no evidence, its just an idea. And what about that gay lisp? are you alll born with that? See you later losers.
atheistrocker100 2 days ago
@MsHyde1
Christianity is all about love , real love, not the sensual, perverted animal lusts of the flesh you equate with love. Heterosexuality is normal, the way God created humans. Homosexuality is abnormal, that’s why 2 men or 2 women cannot procreate. In your mindset you see wrong as right and right as wrong.
The prisons in the UK are full of atheists who have zero morals. I already explained a true Christians obeys God commandments, so you argument is invalid.
RobJohnII 2 days ago
@RobJohnII:
Love? HAHAHAHAHA! Yeah, that worked out really well, that love you christians were giving the world in the last 2000 years. XD
And I see that sterile couples (about 20%) are all abnormal. Wtf is wrong with you? You are disgusting!
We ARE animals, we were born to have sex, you moron. Your disgust for nature is not moral, it is abnormal and sick.
MsHyde1 2 days ago
@MsHyde1
We are NOT animals. We are spiritual beings made in God's image. We have an immortal soul/spirit that will either spend eternity in hell or heaven.
God designed a man and woman to have sex in within a monogamous marriage.
Homosexuals have an STD that they can never ever cure, that they will take with them into eternity and that is called "sexually transmitted damnation".
RobJohnII 2 days ago
@RobJohnII:
Haha, it is a scientific facts that we are animals. You on the other hand have nothing but blind fairth. In fact animals are more morals because they are innocent by nature and don't kill their own kind in mass.
Your "God" also designed homosexuals and sterile people. So again, how dare you suggest that they are abnormal?
"Homosexuals have an STD that they can never ever cure.."
Like I said, you are digusting, immoral, evil and full of hate and self-righteousness.
MsHyde1 2 days ago
@MsHyde1
We are not animals, but of course you behave like one, so I can see why you think that way.
God didn't create anyone gay nor did he make people sterile. You are responsible for your own sinful lifestyle.
Ha, don't make me laugh you don't know the meaning of the word moral. You are dead from the neck up, the whole of your identity revolves around cultivating your sensual nature.. Being carnally minded makes you an enemy of God!
RobJohnII 2 days ago
@RobJohnII:
Er, yes, we are animals. Your beliefs have nothing to do with facts.
Haha, this is getting better and better. XD Wow, you really are evil personfied. That is why your religion the way you interprete it is so perverse. You just suggested that the sterile and gay people are being punished by being born gay or sterile because, oh wait for it, your psycho of a "god" created original sin.
MsHyde1 2 days ago
@MsHyde1
Evolution is a lie.,there are no transitional fossils or any evidence of macro evolution.
I didn't suggest anything of the kind. Sterility may be caused by health factors, including diseases like PID and chlamydia which can be caused by sexual promiscuity.
God did not create anyone gay, just as He didn;t create peodophiles or rapists,
RobJohnII 2 days ago
@RobJohnII:
"Evolution is a lie.,there are no transitional fossils or any evidence of macro evolution."
Bwahaha, oh shit, a creatard. Show me the crocoduck! XD
And yes, you did suggest that. All the the sterile people we did not become sterile by STD are abnormal according to you, you sick fuck! And even PID and chlamydia can be contracted from your first sexual partner/husband/wife, you asshole.
MsHyde1 2 days ago
@MsHyde1
You are losing the plot again. A married couple do not have to procreate, who knows what health problems can cause sterility, too numerous to mention here. The point is God designed a man and woman for marriage. The fact that the opposite sexes have complimentary reproduction organs further demonstrates this.
If a man and woman both stay chaste until marriage how on earth can they contract a STD?
RobJohnII 2 days ago
@RobJohnII:
You moron, not only can PID have other causes than sexual intercourse, the majority of cases of infertility are NOT caused by STDs. So are those people all abnormal because your "god" created them sterile? That is what you are suggesting.
"The point is God designed a man and woman for marriage."
No, "he" didn't. Marriage is a cultural phenomenon and your "god" also created steriles and gays and other intersting ways to avoid overpopulation and conflicts in groups. ^_^
MsHyde1 2 days ago
@MsHyde1
You can't blame God for your perversion, God is not the author of sin, mankind is.
There are many homosexuals who have been liberated from the lifestyle through Jesus Christ.
RobJohnII 2 days ago
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@RobJohnII:
"You can't blame God for your perversion, God is not the author of sin, mankind is."
Haha, sin is a fantasy. It does only exist in your perverted religion. But the god you believe in is allknowing and thus created us with urges he then called sin in his perversion and evilness. And don't even bring up free will. If he is allknowing he still knew everything including behavior out of free will.
MsHyde1 2 days ago
@RobJohnII:
"There are many homosexuals who have been liberated from the lifestyle through Jesus Christ."
Without the sickness and perversion of your life-hostile religion those poor people would not believe there was something wrong with them. And they have not been libertated, they surpressed their nature and forced themselves into abstince or sex with women, which is abnormal. It's basically rape of mind and body. Only religion can bring forth something that wrong.
MsHyde1 2 days ago
@MsHyde1
Gays just can't bear the thought that someone could be liberated from their deviant lifestyle .Because that means you can no longer hide your sin behind the false shambolic "I'm born with it" mentality.
Many ex homosexuals have freely admitted they have faced the most intense hatred and hostility from other homosexuals when leaving the lifestyle ..
Jesus came to set the captives free and that includes all sins including homosexuality.
RobJohnII 2 days ago
@RobJohnII:
"Because that means you can no longer hide your sin behind the false shambolic "I'm born with it" mentality."
No, it means your are scaring or letting yourself be scared into denying yourself and act against your nature. Strong people might sometimes be disgusted by the weakness of "ex"-gays but that is unfair because those poor people are victims of a perverse religious cult.
MsHyde1 2 days ago
@RobJohnII:
And homosexuality is no more a lifestyle than heterosexuality, you ignorant moron.
And again, how do you explain that more religious countries are so evil and immoral while atheist, gay-accepting countries are so much better? Huh? Still now aswer, you coward?
MsHyde1 2 days ago
@RobJohnII you sir are a failure. where do stupid people like you come from? XD
dayweed85a 2 days ago
@dayweed85a
What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world and loses his soul?
RobJohnII 2 days ago
@RobJohnII nobody loses a soul :) stop scaring people with your crap.
dayweed85a 2 days ago
@dayweed85a
Hmm, do you have irrefutable proof and evidence to back up your claims there is no God, therefore no immortal soul?
RobJohnII 2 days ago
@RobJohnII no.. i cant prove that there is no god. same that i cant prove that there are no invisible pink unicorns. your logic is awesome XD
do you believe in invisible pink unicorns? theyre real just as much as god is :)
dayweed85a 2 days ago
@dayweed85a
Nah, there is no infallible and inerrant book containing hundreds of fulfilled prophecies written about pink unicorns, on the other hand the Bible is the inspired word of God.
You see, the moment you draw your last breath on this earth you will know that you have been horribly deceived.
Turn to Jesus while you still have time.
RobJohnII 2 days ago
@RobJohnII another scare tactic? arent you bored of that? i know i am. have your little delusions. just remember, the light youll see seconds before you die isnt heaven, its just your body dying. thats gonna be the last thing you see.
dayweed85a 2 days ago
@dayweed85a
Yes, to be honest I am bored with atheists. Let;s just say you can be 100% sure that one day your belief will be put to the ultimate test.
No good changing your mind then, it's too late, the judgment is set.
RobJohnII 2 days ago
@RobJohnII oh man.. give up already. youre boring. i dont have a belief and im waaay too smart to believe in anything that bible has to say. even kids realize its full of shit. believe what you want to believe, just keep it for yourself. isnt that the same thing you say to gay people? practice what you preach.
dayweed85a 2 days ago
@dayweed85a
No actually we don't. say keep it to yourselves. The bible teaches that God has love for homosexuals, but HATES their sin. He wishes no one to perish, but all to come to repentance through faith in Jeus Christ.
If you die in sin & unbelief , your sins are not covered by the shed blood of Jesus Christ and you will spend an eternity separated from God. .
RobJohnII 2 days ago
@RobJohnII no, youre not keeping it to yourself. youre pushing your agenda. nobody is denying your rights, while you deny rights that other people deserve.
oh, that hell thing doesnt work on me. sorry.
dayweed85a 2 days ago
@dayweed
It's what God says that counts. Without Him there are NO moral absolutes.
A belief in hell has never been a requirement to end up there.
RobJohnII 2 days ago
@RobJohnII there are no moral absolutes. try seeing the big picture.. its a big world out there. not all people share your morals. even god isnt absolute (well the idea of it), because there are many gods and all of them are real to different people.
hell is a scare tactic and a mean to keep you in control. did you even wonder why believers are called "a flock"? no? think about it. you have no minds of your own. you would follow your god off a cliff. its silly.
dayweed85a 2 days ago
@RobJohnII You are so full of shit I can smell you from Canada! Let me guess! you live in a fall out zone where they tested nuclear bombs in the 50s? Am I right?:) lol You and people who think like you are brainwashed ,brain dead people! Don't even respond I have no use for the walking brain dead! All you religious people talk the same bullshit with nothing new to bring to the table! You are lazy thinkers!
ThinkForYourself47 20 hours ago
@ThinkForYourself47
You homosexuals are the ones full of hate, you use filthy language and try and intimidate everyone who doesn't agree with your lifestyle into submission.
Sorry, but it's God's word that counts, not yours and it's Him you will have to answer to on Judgment Day .
RobJohnII 7 hours ago
@RobJohnII you must be an american. i'm glad you guys are all in one area, away from the rest of the world to wallow in stupidity.
ChillaxedJosh 2 hours ago
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@RobJohnII:
And again, explain how the US with an.. oh, 80% something of christians (unlike some EU countries with 80% something atheists) has so much higher violent crime, rape, STD infection, teen pregacy, abortion and divorce rates than the evil atheist countries as well social Darwinism, lack of labors rights, crappy health care and the highest infant mortality rates of the Western world? Explain it, you coward!
MsHyde1 2 days ago
@RobJohnII:
But you know what? It is easy to explain why the atheist countries are so much better than the religious ones. Because you are the best example that religious fanatism breeds stupidity, hatred and an abnormal attitude towards sexuality and nature in general, not to mention the mind-boggling grade of arrogance and self-righteousness. So no wonder religious countries are so more violent, sexually out of control, greedy and without compassion for their fellow man. ^_^
MsHyde1 2 days ago
@MsHyde1
You can't seem to grasp what Christianity means. It means trusting in Jesus, being Christ like. The UK is no longer a Christian country and this is reflected in the current moral decline.. Anyone can call themselves a Christian on paper, but if they are not walking in truth and wilfully carry on sinning then they are NO Christians at all. You need to be able to distinguish true Christianity from pseudo Christianity.
RobJohnII 2 days ago
@RobJohnII:
You don't seem to grasp that the UK and the US are different countries. The US is a Christian country and has much higher homicide, rape, teen pregnancy, STD infection, abortion and divorce rates than European countries with 50% - more than 80% atheists. You also don't seem to grasp that the UK is still doing better than the US and that the countries with the lowest above mentioned rates have higher atheist % than the UK, some MUCH higher. So again, explain that!
MsHyde1 2 days ago
@MsHyde1
Again Jesus says you shall know them by their fruit. Many people who classify themselves as Christians on paper in the USA are Christians in name only.
Attending sunday school as a child or attending church every now and then does not make a Christian.
Jesus said unless a person is born again, they cannot enter the kingdom of heaven. Being born again means repenting of your past sins and being given a new heart and mind,
RobJohnII 2 days ago
@RobJohnII:
"Again Jesus says you shall know them by their fruit." So in other words since atheists in Europe are better people we are actually the better christians than actual christians. Hilarious. It is pretty obvious that being religious correlates to violence, lack of education, hatred towards others, self-righteousness, sexual and social irresponsibility and health issues not to mention that odd obession with war-mongering.
MsHyde1 2 days ago
@MsHyde1
1 Corinthians 6-9
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders the sexually immoral, thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
RobJohnII 2 days ago
@RobJohnII:
"1 Corinthians 6-9 blabla religious babble"
Then I guess you christians are fucked because you are so much more criminal, violent, abusive, sexually and socially irresponsible, greedy and self-righteous than atheists.
MsHyde1 2 days ago
@MsHyde1
You are totally obsessed with bashing christianity and God, I bet you're foaming at the mouth whilst spewing out all your venom on a God you claim doesn't exist.
Yes folks, atheism IS madness!
RobJohnII 2 days ago
@RobJohnII:
No, I am just passionate about criticising evil that has harmed our societry for centuries. I mean look at you, full of hatred, selfdisgust for your own human nature, desperately tying to ignore that the religious countries are far more violent, abusive, war-obesses, sexually and socially irresponsible and unhealthy. But no wonder you are so angry. You probably don't have sex or only when you want to make your wife pregnant. And you can't even jerk off. Poor thing. XD
MsHyde1 2 days ago
@MsHyde1
I'm not angry, it's not my eternal security that is in jeopardy. You've done nothing but hurl insults at me, but of course that is the only recourse of atheists who are on the losing side.
RobJohnII 2 days ago
@RobJohnII:
"You've done nothing but hurl insults at me,.."
You deserve them. You are immoral, evil, heartless, self-rightous and painfully ignorant. I have no idea how within your belief system you can assume that you will not go to hell for the hatred, lies, judgemental attitude, self-righteousness, arrogance and public preaching, not to mention your support of violent, abusive, unhealthy, greedy, sexually and socially irresponsible religious belief systems.
MsHyde1 2 days ago
@MsHyde1
Quack, quack, cluck cluck - you are a complete cuckoo!
Please explain how the teachings of Jesus Christ are immoral?
RobJohnII 2 days ago
@RobJohnII he asked you valid questions. answer him. religious countries reject things that arent immoral and certainly dont harm anyone. and yeah, nothing wrong with homosexuality. if you say there is, that means youre hiding something about yourself. either youre a closet case (because no real straight person will care what gay people do, because it doesnt concern them), or a religious nutt. im leaning towards the second one with you.
dayweed85a 2 days ago
@dayweed85a
God says homosexuality is a sin, so is adultery and fornication, stealing, murder, lying.
All of us have sinned and all of us need a saviour. We cannot earn our own salvation with our own good works, we are saved by grace through Jesus Christ.
Because God is holiness and righteousness He cannot allow sin to enter heaven. Therefore we can only be saved from eternal hell by repenting of our sins & placing our lives in the hands of Jesus Christ who renews us from within
RobJohnII 2 days ago
@RobJohnII you have to know that not all people care what your god has to say. i for example dont believe in sin and if you call me immoral for that, youre a moron.
you can start preaching about heaven or hell, but it has been done 1000000x times and if it hasnt changed my mind until now, it certainly wont change it today. so give up with it and start using your brains. thing is ive noticed, you guys dont like to think and the book does it for you. you are devolving and thats sad.
dayweed85a 2 days ago
@RobJohnII the difference between us is, that gay people dont harm anyone, while religious nuts like to push their agenda onto other people, thus harming them. you know, calling them fags, beating them up, killing them. gay people dont do that to you. grow a pair and mind your own fucking business. thanks.
dayweed85a 2 days ago
@dayweed85a
No true Christian calls a homosexual names or treats them any differently than anyone else.. But we cannot say that homosexuality is right or moral when God has clearly condemned it.
Homosexuality is no different than any other temptation and any temptation can be overcome if a person gives Christ pre eminence in their life. Many ex homosexuals can attest to the amazing transformational power of Jesus.
RobJohnII 2 days ago
@RobJohnII wow.. you dont give up do you? who are you (and your silly book) to tell people that they are wrong? youre nobody. you have no idea how sexuality of any kind works. homosexuality is normal and is not immoral. we all know bible isnt exactly the example of morals. did you kill your neighbours if you saw them working on sunday? no? well then youre not a true believer. see how stupid it is? you cannot pick and choose when it comes to the bible. all or nothing. have fun in jail.
dayweed85a 2 days ago
@dayweed85a
I'm not claiming to be anybody, I'm just telling you God says that no homosexual can enter the kingdom of heaven.
Homosexuals use a part of their anatomy in a way God never intended. .. God designed that part of the anatomy for eliminating waste from the body..
What you are referring to is the Old covenant which was given to the Jewish nation of Israel, Christians live under the New Covenant and do not have to observe the sabbath.
RobJohnII 2 days ago
@RobJohnII im telling you that i dont care what your god says. its silly to me. everybody uses their anatomy for different stuff. since god never said anything, except people who wrote it and the flock (you) and the creators of the bible and you dont matter. so the old one is wrong? now now, thats not cool of you. it is "the word of god" how can you not do what it says?
dayweed85a 2 days ago
@RobJohnII:
"Please explain how the teachings of Jesus Christ are immoral?"
If he even existed he believed in a god that is a perverse, evil tryant. That already make "Jesus" a bad address from moral direction. He started the whole shit about damnation and salvation, which is one of the greatest evil humankind ever made up and caused endless suffering through the evil things humans did to become "saved".
MsHyde1 2 days ago
@MsHyde1
Jesus IS God in human flesh. You hate God because you hate the thought of there being eternal consequences for what you do in this life.
When Jesus walked the earth he said"They hated me without a cause".
It's the wickedness in your own heart that makes you hate Jesus and everything good He represents.
Judgment Day is going to be a terrible day for you.
I'm done talking to you now. It's futile to cast pearls before swine!
May God have mercy on your poor depraved soul.
RobJohnII 2 days ago
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@RobJohnII:
"You hate God because you hate the thought of there being eternal consequences for what you do in this life."
I don't hate what doesn't exist. I despise the evil that your religious cult has caused.
"It's the wickedness in your own heart that makes you hate Jesus and everything good He represents."
Unfortunately it is evil like you that represents "Jesus".
"I'm done talking to you now."
haha, coward. Meanwhile I can enjoy my peaceful, safe, moral country. :)
MsHyde1 2 days ago
@RobJohnII:
"Judgment Day is going to be a terrible day for you."
Man, it must make you so mad that this is irrelevant to me and even the majority of christians. XD And being called a swine is actually a compliment. Lovely animals, unlike you.
MsHyde1 2 days ago
@RobJohnII:
Not to mention that he had the chance to get rid of that perverted "sin" insanity and didn't take it. That as well caused and still causes endless psychological and psysical suffering because people like you have been and still are torturing, abusing, hurting and killing others for "committing sins" for centuries.
And to top that off an evil person can go to heaven if he accepts the skydaddy while the most caring, peaceful person will go to "hell" if they don't.
MsHyde1 2 days ago
@RobJohnII:
What you believe in is pure evil and immorality. And it has an effect on you. You could be a good, compassionate person, instead you are a self-righteous hater who can't cope with the fact that the most atheist countries are the best.
MsHyde1 2 days ago
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@RobJohnII:
And again, explain how the US with an.. oh, 80% something of christians (unlike some EU countries with 80% something atheists) has so much higher violent crime, rape, STD infection, teen pregacy, abortion and divorce rates than the evil atheist countries as well social Darwinism, lack of labors rights, crappy health care and the highest infant mortality rates of the Western world? Explain it, you coward!
MsHyde1 2 days ago
@RobJohnII:
And again, how do you explain that the USA with an extremely high percentage of theists has much higher homicide, rape, teen pregnancy, STD infection, abortion and divorce rates than Europe, huh, HUH? Don't bail out on that question, you coward! Why does the UK, where some schools teach creationism, evangelical cults pop up everywhere and no mandatory sex ed has the highest violent crime rates of the EU, as bad as the US, and the higest teen pregnancy rates?!
MsHyde1 2 days ago
@MsHyde1
I've explained this point with you over and over, if you can't understand it I'm not repeating myself ad nauseum.I know no schools in the UK that teach creationism and yes sex education is now mandatory.
The people who have always pushed for the sex ed in this country are militant lefties who hate conventional family life . It has always been carried out on the pretext of preventing teen preganancies and Std's & has in fact, had exactly the opposite effect
RobJohnII 2 days ago
@RobJohnII:
"I know no schools in the UK that teach creationism and yes sex education is now mandatory."
Oh, now you have a god-complex as well? So because you don't know the schools that teach creationism they don't exist? They do, educate yourself. And no, sex ed is NOT mandatory in the UK. Parents can take their kids out of class and many do, hence your teen pregnancy and STD infection rates that are almost as high as in the US.
MsHyde1 2 days ago
@MsHyde1
The percentage of people taking their kids out of sex ed classes would be I think Christians who don't want filth and lies taught to their kids, but they would make up a small minority. Your argument is invalid as usual.
List the schools that teach creationism or else put a sock in it.
RobJohnII 2 days ago
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@RobJohnII:
@RobJohnII:
"List the schools that teach creationism or else put a sock in it."
Google Vardy schools.
20% of students said they were taught creationism:
tinyurl(dot)com/87jo7mb
Tony Blair even approved of that shit. I guess even a numbskull like you knows about the situation in the US were almost half of the populration beliefs in this crap.
Religion/creationsm/ignorance/no sex ed = high teen preg/STD/abortion rate and violent crime rates. ^_^
MsHyde1 2 days ago
@RobJohnII:
"It has always been carried out on the pretext of preventing teen preganancies and Std's & has in fact, had exactly the opposite effect"
Er, I thought you christians are not allowed to lie? ^_^ Again, sex ed is not mandatory in the UK, neither in the US. Consequently the UK and the US have the highest teen pregnancy and STD infection rates of the western world while the European countries with mandatory sex ed have the lowest. The earlier the lower the rates.
MsHyde1 2 days ago
@MsHyde1
It is in all the schools I know. Maybe not in faith schools for Muslims only, but it is in mainstream schools. If you know different compile a list of schools that don't.
Sex ed is nothing more than a propaganda for promiscuity.
RobJohnII 2 days ago
@RobJohnII :
"t is in all the schools I know."
Haha, so you know all the schools of the UK? Sex ed is not mandatory at UK schools, parents can take their kids out of class for it. This is the law in your country. One would think you would know that.
MsHyde1 2 days ago
@RobJohnII:
"Sex ed is nothing more than a propaganda for promiscuity."
Yeah, I guess that is why teen pregnany, abortion and STD infection rates are the highest in the US and the UK, the countries of the western world that don't have mandatory sex ed. That is why a country like the Netherlands with early, mandatory sex ed has a 8-times lower teen pregnancy rate than the US. I guess that is why the US states that teach abstinence-only have the highest teen preg rates of the US.
MsHyde1 2 days ago
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@RobJohnII:
And again, explain how the US with an.. oh, 80% something of christians (unlike some EU countries with 80% something atheists) has so much higher violent crime, rape, STD infection, teen pregacy, abortion and divorce rates than the evil atheist countries as well social Darwinism, lack of labors rights, crappy health care and the highest infant mortality rates of the Western world? Explain it, you coward!
MsHyde1 2 days ago
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@RobJohnII:
And again, how do you explain that the USA with an extremely high percentage of theists has much higher homicide, rape, teen pregnancy, STD infection, abortion and divorce rates than Europe, huh, HUH? Don't bail out on that question, you coward! Why does the UK, where some schools teach creationism, evangelical cults pop up everywhere and no mandatory sex ed has the highest violent crime rates of the EU, as bad as the US, and the higest teen pregnancy rates?!
MsHyde1 2 days ago
@RobJohnII:
Explain it! Why are the European countries with percentages of atheists up to more than 80% who support gay rights so much more peaceful and sexually responsible, so much more socially responsible and compassionate? Why do divorce more seldom and abort their kids more seldom? Why are atheists underrepresented in prisons? Why do they have a higher IQ on average? Religion correlates with violence, hate and an unhealthy society so why do you support that? Why are you evil?
MsHyde1 2 days ago
@MsHyde1
Listen mate, the UK is full of atheists who hate God and have no morals at all, that is why the place is such a mess. Stop with all this bullcrap about atheists being model citizens because it's a complete lie.
God commands that we should not lie, steal, commit adultery, murder, fornicate, take His name in vain, or dishonour our parents. Atheists flout all those commandments and true Christians don't so stop spouting such stupid rubbish.
RobJohnII 2 days ago
@RobJohnII:
Listen mate, the other European countries have much higher percentages of atheists and they have much lower violent crime, rape, teen pregnancy, STD infection, abortion divorce rates. You are the only EU country without mandatory sex ed because of religious morons and SURPRISE, highest teen pregnancy rates (related to STD and abortion) of Europe!
MsHyde1 2 days ago
@MsHyde1
I don't know of any schools here that don't teach sex education, it is now mandatory. It's interesting to note that since sex ed classes have begun in the UK, teen pregnancies have risen dramatically and so has sexual promiscuity.
Sex education has failed, it's nothing more than a deliberate effort to debauch Christian morality.
RobJohnII 2 days ago