Fuel Vaporizer with HHO bubbler Vaporizador de Gasolina con Burbujeador

[apol732]

i have a regular drycell system, i plan on attaching the exit hose to another jar half way filled with gas, so it'll bubble thru gas and the hydro/oxy vapors will mix with gas vapors and then onto the engine using the venturi system. is this what you mean?

[daniel2008C]

@apol732 Hi, yes , and we also tried it, but was very difficult to adjust the gas vapor amount going into the engine.....it was always acelerated... lot of adjusting work is required ...

[bikr1975]

my ultrasonic vaporizer vaporizes anything besides oil. i got mine from the salvation army store. gasoline, kerosene, octane booster(dollar store type), water, fuel injector cleaner, ammonia, acetone killed the first one so dont do that, and all other flammables that ive found to evaporate leaving zero residue works the balls!! mine is routed through a custom intake/bubbler setup and works. im also using the spark plug non-foulers on the o2 sensors to compensate. was 13.5mpg, now 20 - 22mpg.

[a2zhandi]

Perhaps some heat to boost evaporation. I often wondered if diesel would work.

[daniel2008C]

@a2zhandi no diesel did not vaporize with this system ...regards Daniel

[Php48]

We were doing this over 20 years ago, except with popper heating elements out of a boiler, incredible mileage but a bit smokey until it fully heats up, nothing a modern day ignition can't handle, and a 3 phase alternator to run the element will set you back a bit, the only hassle is cleaning out the sludge that doesn't vaporize, works best lightly carbon filtered, don't bother trying to market it, the authority's come down hard on you and say it a potential explosive hazard.

[HappyJackProduction1]

Its called a Geet .......google it.

[daniel2008C]

Es cierto , debi avisar que no hagan estas pruebas asi nomas, tienen su peligro

Lindo proyecto !! bueno el HHO te ayudara a quemar mas facilmente cualquier mezcla , a condicion de que este bien gasificada ... buena suerte

[hibirapita]

Que buenos experimentos, te felicito aunque arriesgados no conociendo la reaccion de los diferentes liquidos combinados con el hho que en ciertas condiciones de temperatura ,etc podrian deflagrar pero vi que tienes un burbujeador chico

Estoy adaptando un viejo tractor naftero para que funcione a 4 combustibles solos o combinados,el kerosene hay que gasificarlo antes de hacerlo entrar en el motor para ello utilizaré una cámarita y el calor del caño de escape . Saludos.

[acer9reca]

what is this song called?

[IAMBILLYTHEKID]

To seperate hydrogen and oxygen requires chemicals, and electricity, or you can find the specific temperature of hydrogen in water, and turn the hydrogen to a gas, but you will need to keep the temperature in a 62 degree range, the difference in the boiling temperatures of hydrogen and oxygen. With the hydrogen a gas, and the oxygen a liquid they will seperate. See You Tube, White Gasoline Vapor, I preformed this on gasoline, and what can be done to one liquid can be done to any liquid. Water!!

[daniel2008C]

@IAMBILLYTHEKID HI , please send me a personal message with your email , very interesting work, may be I can help....... I do listen and read... regards Daniel

[IAMBILLYTHEKID]

Daniel, I am in the process of having the paper work done to get the grant from the Department of Energy. The chamber here on You Tube can make hydrogen to, just need to refine the controls. I also need to patent my process. The chamber works, just need the grant. Don't worry this won't get lost. I will sell sets of plans, on You Tube, with all the parts needed to build it, if they try to buy it. It is time for the world to have this.

[superwhiz88]

bro.. you are the man.. i think u just discover the light ball .

[GeorgeArroyoGrandeCA]

Months ago I saw a video that mixed the gasoline into the cell's water not in the bubbler's water like you are doing.

Using your method it seems to me that for safety reasons a 2nd bubbler would be needed because the gasoline/HHO mixture could explode once the flashback arrestors fail over time from having taken just one too many hits.

What think ?

[daniel2008C]

You´re 100% right !! , I installed one flashback arrestor before this test bubbler and two between it and the nozzle.. and the bubbler´s top has a kind of  "fuse" made with a plastic sheet ... I agree this is a dangerous business and hope everyone takes care during experiments ! AND thanks for remember us FlashBack arrestors made with bronze wool are not for ever, ( I got much better results with the aquarium´s stone system ) ... Thanks for your comments ..Daniel

[daniel2008C]

Dear George , YES and it works for gasoline but not for diesel ( is too oily ) , the point of this video is to suggest the HHO cell installers to bubble the HHO with Gasoline in order to add both improvements for better MPG, knowing they will use just about 100ml of gasoline per hour for a 3 LPM CELL I have a diesel and cannot do it myself.

You suggest to introduce both separately ..well good idea too .. we just need somebody to try and inform the results or may be somebody did it !

[noelsingletary]

Why don't you do it. I am not ready for third degree burns over 40 percent of my body. You do it, Make a video of yourself in flames and I will watch.

[daniel2008C]

Hi Noel, it is done, I show it working at the video, without causing any accident , But I agree any work with gas and fuels requires a qualified tech, so let me change my suggestion ,now is valid just for qualified people ... thanks for your comments

[daenumen]

@daniel2008C hang on, are you suggesting you get HHO out from kerosene without using water, or using the kerosene as an electrolyte in aqueous solution?

[daniel2008C]

@daenumen NO!!! I bubble HHO into different fuels, to get flames with different characteristics, temperatures and speed ( important to control flash back)

HHO alone is not appropiatte for some tasks, you could overheat the metals and/or get a dirty weld... melt your metals, etc.. however if you use the proper mixture , you will get excellent results for almost everything.... regards Daniel

[daenumen]

@daniel2008C right i see. have to tested to see if the Hydrogen just comes straight out again? kerosene is a saturated linear hydrocarbon, so it shouldnt particularly absorb any hydrogen atoms, however i can see oxygen H-bonding with the :::H-C- weakly.

it would be interesting to know if the hydrogen is infact dissolved in kerosene.

thanks.

[daniel2008C]

@daenumen , sometimes welding procedures requires addition of free Carbons, steel has Carbon and if you use pure HHO, carbons will burn and you will get a porous steel Iron ( call Brightening o debilitamiento).

Also Kerosene or Gasoline gas, mixed ( phisically) with the HHO gas, produces a mixture burning slower than HHO alone, allowing different tasks .. unfortunatelly welding is a compliacted science too , and requires lot of special "tricks" to get a good job done

[daenumen]

@daniel2008C mm interesting ill look into the science of welding, i have only done a little bit myself.

but with regard what the fuel actually 'is' once you put HHO in, im wondering if there is any H in the fuel after the process? i can see oxygen being absorbed, i cannot see H being absorbed in a stable way into the fuel, ie will 'bubble out' of the dense liquid.

can you tell me if this is happening? or otherwise?

[daniel2008C]

@daenumen I dont think H can be absorved into the fuel, A Theory states HHO IS NOT free Hs and free Os , they are bonded ( dif angle than water) . (Pls search "Brown´s Gas theory by Chris Eckman " ) and Chain of Hydrocarbons are full . C bonds are all bonded to H s.. so don t see a way it can get additional Hs ... But I may be wrong ... the fact is when you bubble HHO into light fuels , the resulting GAS burns much hotter than ussual... Chris´s theory explains that quite well ...

[daenumen]

@daniel2008C H cannot be absorbed easily, Oxygen atoms will.

both hydrogen and oxygen atoms should be in their 0valence states post electrolysis, which if the two atomic gases are collected seperately will permit 02 and H2 gases to form (if they have not done so already during evolution post electrolysis).

the paper does not hold scientifically, there is no justification for extra shell occupation, and it would certainly result in excess charges 2e- and magnetic effects for the browns gas.

[daniel2008C]

@daenumen HI, OK I see you dont share Chris theory .. coming back to your original comment ... do you think the fuel might be modified by bubbling HHO into it ?

I have a friend bubbling HHO at the Diesel , and reports better than expected milage , but could be a subjetive opinion ... do you think this might happens ?

I appreciatte your comments ...

[daenumen]

@daniel2008C to burn: O req'd, 'air' has O=O; & it req's NRG to break = bond first. H-bonds formed between O & fuel, O:- H-C-R , reduces NRG req'd for breaking H-C bond. less NRG req in per combustion cycle = more out. may effect engine timing?. ~no energy saved:electrolysis, unless H-O is less than O=O, and greater than sys. efficiency.

can you test if the H is coming out of the fuel after you have bubbled through the HHO? wld prove relatively conclusively if this is happening or not.

[daniel2008C]

@daenumen How do you suggest to test if H is coming out of fuel after bubbling ?.

Do you prefer a test with a heavy distillated like Diesel or lighter like Gasoline , or must work for any HC ?

[daenumen]

@daniel2008C should work for any HC.

one way would require a new electrolysis method, such that the oxygen and hydrogen are kept seperated. hence you could bubble both through the fuel, and see which has an effect.

you could bubble a small amount of HHO repeatedly through a sizeable amount of HC, and then do a 'flame test' for O and H on the remaining gas, that has not dissolved into the HC,

the 1st requires a new build, the second may be tempremental.

[daniel2008C]

@daenumen ... will think about it, , I can bubble HHO into Diesel and use it at a burner and compare results .with unbubbled diesel .. all I can say now is that diesel at a bubbler makes HHO flame completely transparent ( clean out KOH and moisture ) .. SO at least I will find K and water at the Diesel .....let´s try ...

[daenumen]

@daniel2008C definately sounds like O is being absorbed by the fuel. hydrogen flames emit mostly UV light, so are very hard to see with the naked eye, but a camera will pick up more.

[daenumen]

@daniel2008C hence the paper is not accurate, i would refrain from thinking in that sense, and if you want further proof take a look at the periodic table, apply lewis structure, and determine the valences.

browns gas requires oxygen to enter a 4e- state (chemically never observed, and energetically highly unstable).

ie oxygen sees 10 electrons (2 more than i needs) and hydrogen both see 2 each.

hence a net charge of browns gas being 2e-.

[daenumen]

@daniel2008C even just thinking about a normal water molecule coming into contact with one of the eletrodes, it doesnt make sense for it to straighten out:

plate + | :O (H H) , and plate - |: ( H H ) O :

where : represents the lone pairs of electrons, due to spin coupling of electron pairs in the 2p orbital.

[GeorgeArroyoGrandeCA]

There is another way to vaporize fuels by using ultrasound waves. Children's room vaporizers as found in drug stores use this method with water to help sick kids. This method makes the fuels or water a cool vapor or fog that can also be introduced to the engine but seperately from the HHO vapors which could be a much safer method.

[daniel2008C]

Hi Tj . sorry dont get your comment, this is not ultrasonic , just a HHO bubbler with different fuels in it , I am trying to show you ,gasoline is very easy to vaporize ... not so far with Diesel or kerosene ....... I own a diesel but people having gasoline engines should try to feed HHO using a bubbler with gasoline for BETTER MPG results !! thanks for watching !

[tjgame2]

You see one guy playing with an ultra sonic fogger.