I dont think they are jealous because they export fruit dude. They are mad because they were removed for their homes and displaced elsewhere. They have lost more and more land since Israel became a nation. And now they are walled off from the rest of the world. Israel gets so much money from aid (Mostly from the US) and Palestine gets almost nothing. Before it was up to a failing Ottoman Empire and then a British Mandate to make things better, so blame it on them. It is like blaming everything
@ListenandQuestion on the people of Africa for their troubles right now, but the European countries that tried to colonize them and created most of the conflict get no blame. The situation in the Middle East comes down to bad leadership, but that doesn't make what Israel has done to Palestine right.
@ListenandQuestion Your ignorance of history is just appalling. The Zionists BOUGHT Israel, mostly, and they mostly bought it from absentee Arab landlords, who simply cashed in and never gave it another thought. There was surely some unpleasantness when the tenant farmers were informed that there was a new owner, but the vast majority of "Palestinians" were refugees created by wars the Arabs started, and they remain in camps because Arabs won't let them in.
@henrycate while the Zionists may have bought a very small portion of land, most was as a result of the switch from the British Mandated land to an attempt at two separate states (Arab and Jewish). Your ignorance of history is just appalling lol where did you get this information. Most of the land was bought by Zionists? haha wrong. And the Arabs started the wars because they never agreed to Israel taking a large portion of their land. Your view is warped and you need some schooling
His opening statements about Israel are totally right. You can go to Google Earth and see the border clear as day because on the Israeli side it is almost solid green, and on the Arab side it's wasteland. The Jews took complete desert and made something out of it. What have the Arabs done in the last 70 years to cultivate or develop that region?
@riggsdj Lets look at Palestine for example. Palestinians are walled off from the rest of the world. Israel controls every aspect of their life. Access to water, trade and aid is all controlled by Israel. Palestine is imprisoned by Israel. How do you turn a desert into an orchard like that?
@ListenandQuestion That's exactly who I'm talking about. Why didn't the Arabs make something of that region before Zionism started and the Jews returned to the area? Why did it take the Jews making something good out of the land (that tiny country is the #4 exporter of fruit int he world) to make the Arabs jealous and want it now that the area is actually worth something?
@ListenandQuestion How about by not spending money on all of the missles that they fire at Israel? Wouldn't that be a start? Or actually accepting to talk about new boundaries (in their favor)?
@henrycate why don't Jordan and Syria help Palestine? I'm guessing thats your question. And the answer is obvious: they would be slaughtered in battle.. The US gives Israel unconditional aid and Israel has one of the largest and most well-trained army in the world. Nobody wants to stand up to Israel and the US. They're bullies basically, thats why people resort to terrorists groups, because they feel like they have no other option.
@kathulas Why should you care? The original idea of education was to make a cultured man. That's 99% gone now, and colleges are glorified trade schools. If you want to study philosophy or the arts, go right ahead! But you should be ready for what I have actually seen, back in the early '80s, which was people with Ph.Ds in philosophy taking jobs as beginning programmers to put food on the table. Same with the arts; they don't typically feed you. Your choice!
4:59 This is how I feel the about the entire liberal community. This childish sense of entitlement. "I deserve this because the person next to me has it." It is certainly a brainless decision right? With this way of thinking, why should you work hard to get what you want and where you want in life? I mean, after all, You'd be stupid to in a completely socialist society, where everyone is equal! Oh how misguided you must be.
Really funny argument.... blame Palestinians not to irrigate the desert and give them an example of Israel... the same state that steal their water and land.
The thing that annoys me about this OWS movement and their desire to destroy capitalism is that they want to destroy the fairest economic system there is. As we all have needs and wants and capitalism rewards people who supply those needs and wants to us and if these people are allowed to prosper they will need people (Employees) to help them keep up with the needs and wants of the public
I think Whittle misrepresents the OWS movement. I have seen video evidence of OWS marches/protests around the country that touch on many different issues of society including schools, immigration, healthcare, prison and military industrial complex, ext. ext... Viewing the footage and news on the issues the movement covers were just as easy to come by as this video. Independent news sources that actually cover the movement also have youtube channels
@persianality123 Greek & Roman (the cradles of the West) engineering was far superior to Persian. After the fall of the Roman empire, innovation exploded in Europe; wind and water power, agriculture, reclaiming land flooded by the sea and much, much more. Therein lies the difference: Eastern innovation was exclusively aristocratic, Western innovation began from the ground up, with the commoner, and so led to even more innovation.
Mr. Wittle's comments are so logical and up front that I know it fries the brains of the leftists/progressives who don't have the intellectual capacity to handle so much truth and enlightenment. Great job! We should put our pennies together, rent an office suite or store front and loop Afterburner and Bill's other programs to a huge outdoor screen blasting his commentary as loud as possible to the Occupy crowd ! They would love that right!!! Great program.
the only thing more depressing than a possible obama re election is the sad ,pitiful whiny halfwits who fill out the unwashed ,bovine ,THC addled cohorts of OWS ..TRULY ,the special Olympics of protest movements .
Shout out to the college students who know what Mr. Whittle is talking about! No one is gonna hand me my six figure job, I am gonna have to WORK for it!!! How did those kids get into colleges in the first place! Go, Noles!
Krhm...I don't think Bill said that "Japanese werent good engineers". He, or moreover The Bridge Over the River Kwai, compared the differences of Japanease and British attitude towards the building of a bridge. He also mentioned how Japan succesfully adobted the western style attitude after WWII, of course the Japanease were good before, after WWII they were even better: Toyota, Mitshubishi etc. are a proof of that.
His starting with Imagination is in total agreement with the Dali Lama and Oprah Winfreh and everyone who believes in BS and the supernatural, including (gulp) the Japanese! It cannot be right.
Isn't it more likely that we start with what we KNOW, and then explore the possibilities, with the help of our imagination? If it works the way he says, there is nothing to stop us from considering pie-in-the-sky BS as possibilities, with no way to check them. Check them against what?
You first have to have an idea of what to do with what we know...no matter how bizzare or "pie-in-the-sky" the idea seems. Think about the engine in a car: we have this chamber in which we constantly explode this black liquid and this coupled with gears and cylinders moves wheels that move this basket. Far fetched, but with the combination of imagination AND knowledge it can be made. If you have no new ideas, no imagination, youre stuck even if you know everything.
I don't see why one cannot form hypotheses arrived at from evidence, AND then use his imagination to examine the possibilities, and gain new knowledge. Imagination needs to be checked by some standard, evidence or knowledge, and purpose if it is to help us.
Whittle does not show how the Western Tradition uses imagination differently from the East. But distinguishing the West from the East (And the OWS) was the whole point here.
I believe Whittle tried to highlight the fact that OWS hasnt got any new ideas, they mearly beat the drum and demand evermore entitlements, much the same way as Imperial Japan army officers only built new bridges, never bothering to reflect why their bridges fell so easily.
I agree with the fundamental views of gumption, education, and gratitude, which is why I hate OWS. Bill is a very intelligent man about social and domestic issues, but I disagree with analysis of Western dominance and Israel. Palestine is in peril due to a nearly 50 year illegal Israeli occupation of their land. As a result of this they are in a a similar position as was East Germany- under the oppression of a bitter occupier. And Western hegemony can be attributed to a number factors.
@Slacktide420 After WWI, the land there was ceded to the British by the Ottoman empire. It therefore belonged to the UK. They then decided to carve out a piece and make it a Jewish homeland. Israel petitioned and received nation status from the UN in 1948. The Palestinian areas now are territory won in war. Just what part of that is illegal?
So irritating land with American/German money is the pre-text for ethnically cleansing a people? You think this is "western" thought? Sounds like your "western" thought has been colonized by the dealers in usury.
For 13.9 million “officially” unemployed who are looking for work, it has become an awful game of musical chairs. There are only 3 million jobs available at any given time and most are filled rapidly, leaving 13.9 million players without chairs.
How do we know all theses people are “looking for work”.........it’s ‘cause if there isn’t a record on them looking for work, they just aren’t counted
The rules have changed and there will be a learning curve. Expectations will have to be altered.
Jobs went away because under-regulated banks gave “special” loans to people and when these “special” loans re-set, the home owners could not meet the new, increased payments. Then the under-regulated investment bank executives and traders (paid millions in salaries and bonuses) gambled with investor money, and lost. They kept their jobs, got bailed out with taxpayer money, a portion of which was used to pay these crooked gamblers millions in bonuses while no-body got HUNG for what they did.
@TheMarksmenCat - I was speaking of “Investment Banks” not “Commercial Banks”. Only 6% of sub-prime loans had any connection to the Community Re-investment Act (CRA), and were only half as likely to default.
The Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission reported in Jan 2011 that the CRA was not a significant factor in sub-prime lending or the crisis“ and further determined it was the "unregulated" Credit Default Swaps (by Investment Banks) that created the sub-prime crisis
@RichardBeckett66 Banks were forced to give loans to "red-line" borrowers. In an attempt to make some semblance of profit from this travesty, they traded these mortages in bundles on the market.
Big surprise that when people couldn't repay them, the bottom dropped out from these "options" that were toxic to begin with. Whoever tricked you into thinking the banks did anything other than what they were directed to do, should be shot.
Here is what we know about these 13.9 million “officially” unemployed people: They DO want to work. We know this because, until recently they WERE working. Then their jobs went away but rent (house payments), utility payments, car payments, Insurance payments (health, car, house) and other expenses did not go away. AND....they found they still needed to eat.
The top 1% get richer, the remaining 99% get by, and 45 million people in the US live below the poverty level. Something's wrong.
I'd like to see this perspective taught in our schools, explicitly, especially to disadvantaged minorities. Perhaps we'd see fewer mobs looting convenience stores.
You can also see the border difference between Haiti (deforested & eroded) and the Dominican Republic (covered with tropical forests). The DR guys have more Western minds than Haitians, which makes them wealthier.
Okay i have 2 jobs and im protesting. this video is ignorant and spreading the propaganda. People dont want federal banks doesnt make them drug dealing rapists. Fuck you Bill, i hate you so much i can taste it.
@owlsworld In a credit union bank. a posted this message on a laptop i bought, with the money i earned working on the rigs in canada. Bill could learn a thing or too about "earning something"
I like Whittle's example of the auto mechanic. The zombie apocalypses celebrate the skills of working class guys who know how to shoot, repair machines & live off the land, like the guys in Discovery Channel shows.
yea, sure. sweet talk the "israel is smart", and than end with a "go bob" (that has a rich uncle he can borrow money from).
OWS is 99% rapist and antisemedic ppl? really? mind showing me where you got your numbers from?
bob's auto repair shop will never take off, because car depot provides lower prices, with cheaper (slave?) labor, and being a bigger componey, will have to pay less taxs than bob.
@shining3210 ummm who made sure israel was a country in the first place? the UN which is led by who? the US! so the Israel did not establish itself on its own, it was us
@raulmedina7 which you can say about EVERY country that was established after 1947.
Israel became a country because it was strong enought (in mental, and in metal) to hold it self together UNTIL the recognetion by the rest of the world (ofcourse the world hardly did anything to help Israel in it's independance war which started right after it was established). So as for your statment, I'd have to say you are mostly wrong.
@eyallev what the OWS is protesting is how the banks gave out loans to people they knew couldn't pay it back and when the housing crisis started and the economy went downhill most of these banks were crying to the government for more money and bailouts, and once they get back up again they reward their executives with the tax money the government helped them with in the first place!
@raulmedina7 And who made sure the u.s will be a country? Europe! Cause before europeans there were only indians there. So no need to decide anything for yourself, let the europeans control you. Thats your logic anyways, go with it all the way..
@shining3210 ummm i think the indians were the one that let the colonists survive here in america. if the indians hadn't shown them how to grow crops and other things they early and pathetic settlements would have not survived.
soooo, this guy doesn't like name dropping but he has an "academy award winning friend"? practice what you preach buddy. having good points doesn't make you not a dumb ass
Why do we say it is anti-semitic to say that "Jews run the banks, the media, hollywood and have the most powerful lobby in Washinton"? If it's true, and it likely is given how imaginative, ambitious, skilled, and persistant Jews are... Like I say, if it's true, then isn't that a complement?
the occupiers here in Australia want me to share all my profits with them , after 28 years in the Australian army i retired after being injured oversea's , i started a small business and now i have 3 folks working for me , but this to them makes me a fat cat , some weeks (every week for the first year) i took home less than my staff , they had to be paid or my business would not survive i cant do it all myself so i hire folks , i offered them a job , they said they'll have my business
@MTMercilless People who take issue with Israel are not necessarily "foul." Israel has lied about plenty of things in the past eg their nuclear weapons. But why in your mind do German, Russian, and Polish people have more of right to live in the area than the people who had already been living there for nearly 2000 years? Because a culture which formed in Babylon wrote about it in a storybook?
@smiledammit24 you are an ignoramus. islam was invented 1400 years ago, not 2000. jews have lived in israel non-stop for over 3000 years. arabs are 20% of israel's population and live better than and with more freedom for opportunity than in ANY arab country. israeli arab population increases at faster rate than jews. for hundred of years arabs always came to what's now israel like mexicans to usa, for work/health benefits/education/dignity and to live with non-muslims who treat them as equals.
palestine is the name the romans gave to the land of israel after they had conquered the the jewish kingdom. there's no such thing as a palestinian people. arabs considered the area as southern syria. no palestinian capital city/newspapers/nationality. JEWS got birth certificates from the british occupiers saying "born in palestine". arabs were mostly just migrant workers.
there's nothing invalid (?) re my point about islam. you obviously do not know the history of islam.
@smiledammit24 romans changed name of area called kingdom of israel just to spite the jews and called the area palestine from the word philistines who had lived in small area from gaza to ashkelon, but who had disappeared as a distinct group 2500 years ago. btw, original philistines were NOT arab, they were more european and originally came from southern greece. see wikipedia article:
h t t p : / / e n . w i k i p e d i a . o r g / w i k i / P h i l i s t i n e s
@smiledammit24 till 1967 no arab called himself palestinian.
"There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria. 'Palestine' is alien to us. It is the Zionists who introduced it".
- Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, Syrian Arab leader to British Peel Commission, 1937
Right at the beginning: "I absolutely despise name dropping. By the way, my friend who is a super famous actor agrees with me on what I'm about to talk to you about."
We should just end all the entitlement programs and make those idiots go #occupy a job or starve. If they are too stupid or lazy to work, then can either suck money from family and friends or starve. It isn't our problem. There are millions of unfilled jobs out there. Apples in Washington are most likely going to rot because they are short over 10k apple pickers this year. A company I contract for has over 2,000 open positions. The #occupy idiots just need to get off their ass and work for once.
@v12tommy So you took a survey of these "idiots" like the veterans, professional women, elderly, and disabled to see who was working? Its so easy to judge people you don't know who are out there to try to save you from corporate slavery! Wake up and stop listening to this six figure income corporate lacky. Talk about entitled, when is the last time he got his hands dirty!
@brucecinsf I don't see anything wrong with a 6 figure income. I have a 6 figure income from starting my own business. Maybe if you Occupy idiots got off your lazy ass for once in your life and went to occupy a job you could have a 6 figure income someday too. And I wasn't listening to "corporate lackies" either, I got my opinion of the movement from the protesters in their own words here on YouTube. Oh, and the last time I got my hands dirty is when I wash my company vehicle every day loser.
Jews had always been in Transjordan called Palestine. The division of the middle east was was an arbitrary attempt by the British to bring some sort of order to the ME.
doctor, the most right to be there? weren't they created out of thin air and weren't an entire people displaced post-wwii? not sure they have any more right to be there than anyone else; i'd argue certainly less.
I'm a college grad who can do basic car maintenance and have been working in a labor intensive job since freshman year. Instead of going to Occupy, I went looking for a job better than my part-time job.
Obamavilles or tent cities are becomig quite popular with the 9% better know as the unemployed. Four more years of Obama and we will all be heading to Mexico looking for work. But don't worry Im sure they will be just as nice and understanding as we were towards us.
@potcrak1 California, you know the former desert, is now known as the 'bread basket of the world'. Well, it was until the environmentalist flat-earth no growth marxists up in sacramento decided that some obscure smelt was more important than feeding half of the worlds population.
Love it, well thought out and presented. To bad they can't take their blinders off and see what is going on around them and how they are being manipulated.
I think they have plenty of imagination... but their imaginations have been fed nothing but pabulum. "Vision" is the proper word for your first step, Mr Whittle.
The Arabs look at the desert and see the desert because they were brought up in a desert and their culture is based on existing with a desert and valuing those cultural constructs that are required in order to survive in a desert.
The Israelis' cultural constructs mean that they look at the desert and see death. Their culture is based on surviving in an urban or Western agricultural setting. So they act accordingly.
@ronwfox01 a lot of us are from the desert as well, Yemen, Iraq, Morroco, Syria, Egypt, you name it we have people from there. I see what you mean though, it was the original Ashkenazim that started the irrigation and un-desertification (is that a word?) process when they first came
@ronwfox01 That theory is wrong. The arabs cannot do anything with the desert. The few arab nomads that live in deserts do so by conducting raids on productive people. Without western influence the arab world would be even less than they are now. They cannot even build a nuclear device without lots of help from outside. That's WW2 technology by western standards...
We shouldn't romanticize crap cultures. We all live under the same laws of nature.
@ronwfox01 Good try, but there is a huge chunk of Arabia called "Arabia Felix" which is actually NOT desert. Arabs, traditionally, do not have any particularly high regard for the desert per se. What is cogent to Mr Whittle's observations is that the Palestinian Arabs were not especially noted for agriculture nor horticulture during the time they occupied the Land. Alternatively, the Jews who made aliyah almost proverbially set to reclaim the Land and "make the desert bloom". They still do.
what i want to know is why you insist on asking questions when you have already assumed to know the answer.
exactly what is it that you want to know that i "believe" israel on? i try not to do much "believing" of any state. i try and rely on information, facts, and logic to inform my opinions.
i have no hope of having an objective conversation with someone whose black heart is full of prejudice, like yours.
your use the accusation of "hatred" like an excuse, and a hedge
Go Bob! Fuck these underdogs in the US who sit in parks all day long doing nothing dawdling their lives away on envy and hatred for men that are of an actual value to society. Humans work, leeches occupy Wall Street.
Here's a part of the problem with this kids, Bill. For their entire life we told them they had to go to college, or they'd end up flipping burgers their whole lives. Now they're out of school, they can't find a job, and what are you suggesting they do? Flip burgers. I like you Bill, I really, really do. But you're preaching to the choir. Telling a kid to get a job he's been brainwashed to think he's too good for isn't going to do anything.
How do we get you in the classrooms? I am dead serious. My daughter, a college senior, is as conservative as they come, yet when I asked her why one of her friends in law school was getting a $1200 monthly stipend from her grandfather, she said, in all seriousness "she's in law school, she DESERVES it". Counteracting what is taught at universities is much harder than you can imagine. We need to spread your messages Bill.
@sybilll not sure why you are suprised "she's in law school, she deserves it" is exactly what I would expect a conservative to say, and is one of the things OWS is protesting against.
I have to admit I don't like the sounds of it, but it does make sanse, why should a rich grandfather be allowed to just give away his money (tax free) like that?
in a world where you need a 1200 stipend to stay in law school, I don't think you'll see too many lawers trying to help the needy.
i would be interested on the source of that info. thats the first ive heard of it....and seem to me that if this were the case, we would have heard quite a bit about it in the mainstream press, which is generally sympathetic to israel.
This is a very interesting video, with many important themes. Israel is a westernized country, but some perspective is needed here. What is western civilization and of what was it created? Western civ stands upon the Judeo-Christian value system as exemplified in America. So yes, Israel is made out of the same cloth as western civilization, but western civilization came to be thanks to Christianity and thanks to Judaism. The Judeo/Christian based West influenced Israel.
@smiledammit24 I can handle a little arrogance. I can even handle a little ignorance. But I cannot handle those who are arrogant about their ignorance.
Are you saying that the sum of Western civilization (WC) is BC Greece and Rome? WC began in Jerusalem and spread to Athens and Rome, where it took off and developed throughout the Middle Ages, then through the Early Modern Period and eventually to North America, where the Judaic and Christian Roots of WC were emphasized. Think about it.
@koyunbaba73 Yes I've thought about it a lot. I even got a degree in it. Western civilization is definable namely by things like written law, civil vs. common law, democracy, etc. All of these ideas were developed long before Jesus was born. Religion does play a part in it, but Western civilization was largely pagan (in many ways it still is) long after the death of Jesus. To say the roots of Western civilization are in Judaism and Christianity is to ignore 700 years of history.
@smiledammit24 That's a better response than that crack you made earlier. But you're not the only one with a degree in history. And you're mistaken. Mosaic law came down 1000 years before Christ, and legal statutes from the few hundred years before and after Christ was based upon it, from Theodosius to Clovis. Moreover, what WC is today is far greater and accounts for much more than those legal codes. Our episteme and culture is much more the result of Judeo/Christian thought than Greco/Roman.
@koyunbaba73 So your theory is that the Romans borrowed the notion of civil and common law from the Jews? And that the Jews invented democracy? And would you deny that Mosaic law is basically a derivative of Babylonian law? Because if you answer affirmatively to any of the above, I'm wondering what paper mill you got your degree from in that case.
@smiledammit24 You can draw a direct line from Judaic civil law to Roman civil law. Compare the codes. I want to know why you're equating WC with Rome. The argument I'm making is that Judeo/Christian values (the same Judeo/Christian values honoured in America) is what had the greatest impact on WC as we now know it. We can argue about the impact of Judaism and Christianity on Rome, which is interesting but academic. What distinguishes WC from EC today is the Judeo/Christian value system. Clear?
my guess is that even israel doesnt want to push the limits of breaking international law. how is it that you advocate that israeli should cavalierly "loitering and kill everyone", but would probably think this advice repugnant if it were offered to palestinians.
lets leave the double standards to the liberals. they're much better at it. by you appear to be a hypocrite when you advocate that one group of people do what you call terrorism when another group does it.
an ad hom is calling people names. calling someone out on their obvious double standards, and questioning their bias isnt a personal attack, unless of course you are just incredibly sensitive, in which case you probably shouldnt be having a disagreement/discussion of a serious and adult topic, so as to protect your feelings.
however, if you would like to use that as an excuse for exiting the convo becuause you cant provide any substance to your claims, then be my guest.
East vs West.... different perspectives, different ways to tackle things. I came from an asian heritage with a western education and grew up in a protestant christian home living in a western country so there you go. As an old native american saying goes, "one hill, different trails".
When I visited the USA in 1990, I went to two of your greatest engineering achievements: The Golden Gate Bridge and Hoover Dam. At both sites, there is a plaque commemorating the names of those workers who died during the construction of these collosal marvels.
Archaeologists will look in vain for similar plaques at the Great Pyramid, or the Great Wall of China.
Remembering the name of the 'little guy' - the Bobs and Joes of this world...
@karozans Hello again. Yeah, it's a beaut country, my Australia. We don't call it "the lucky country" for nothing. We've managed to avoid most of the failings of most other countries, although we have our own problems. Most of us are pretty easy going; some are complete dickheads but you get that everywhere. Oh, if you're thinking of visiting, you should know our beer tends to be stronger than yours & we drink a lot of it. Country towns & Queensland are the most conservative places. Cheers!
Yes I have noticed that. We in the States don't hear much from Australia in the news. I guess that is a good thing. No news is good news.
Yeah, anywhere you go there is the bottom 10% that ruin it for everyone. I am sure you hear about all the crap that goes on here in the US, but I hope you don't think we are all like our politicians and celebrities. Most of us just want to be left alone to make a living.
I like Guinness beer. Is Aussie beer similar in strength?
@karozans Guinness is quite popular in Australia - especially in the winter and in what we call "Irish" pubs which are really a kind of commercialised pseudo-Irish affair. Some can be pretty dull, but the good ones have live music and are brilliant for a Friday/Saturday night. Australian beer (mostly lager) is often 5% alcohol & is served cold. Ales are popular; cider less so. Women drink chilled wine & they really like pre-mixed flavored spirits as do trendy Gen Y males. More info follows...
@karozans ... getting off-topic, but to finish off:
Pre-mixed flavoured spirits in bottles (eg: vodka mixed with lemon or raspberry cordial) is heavily marketed towards women in Australia, although men "confident in their masculinity" will try one on a night out. Usually, though, if you're a man & you ask for a "breezer" or a "cooler" (as they're called in Australia) you might be seen as sending mixed messages in certain crowds. Man+lots-of-beer+keeps control = GOOD BLOKE! (High praise indeed!)
Go Bob!
mbrsart 2 weeks ago 2
I dont think they are jealous because they export fruit dude. They are mad because they were removed for their homes and displaced elsewhere. They have lost more and more land since Israel became a nation. And now they are walled off from the rest of the world. Israel gets so much money from aid (Mostly from the US) and Palestine gets almost nothing. Before it was up to a failing Ottoman Empire and then a British Mandate to make things better, so blame it on them. It is like blaming everything
ListenandQuestion 3 weeks ago
@ListenandQuestion on the people of Africa for their troubles right now, but the European countries that tried to colonize them and created most of the conflict get no blame. The situation in the Middle East comes down to bad leadership, but that doesn't make what Israel has done to Palestine right.
ListenandQuestion 3 weeks ago
@ListenandQuestion Your ignorance of history is just appalling. The Zionists BOUGHT Israel, mostly, and they mostly bought it from absentee Arab landlords, who simply cashed in and never gave it another thought. There was surely some unpleasantness when the tenant farmers were informed that there was a new owner, but the vast majority of "Palestinians" were refugees created by wars the Arabs started, and they remain in camps because Arabs won't let them in.
henrycate 1 week ago
@henrycate while the Zionists may have bought a very small portion of land, most was as a result of the switch from the British Mandated land to an attempt at two separate states (Arab and Jewish). Your ignorance of history is just appalling lol where did you get this information. Most of the land was bought by Zionists? haha wrong. And the Arabs started the wars because they never agreed to Israel taking a large portion of their land. Your view is warped and you need some schooling
ListenandQuestion 6 days ago
That laugh at 5:35 is hilarious!
Also, I wish Bob great success.
Lazyguy22 3 weeks ago
This guy is the worst
ListenandQuestion 3 weeks ago
His opening statements about Israel are totally right. You can go to Google Earth and see the border clear as day because on the Israeli side it is almost solid green, and on the Arab side it's wasteland. The Jews took complete desert and made something out of it. What have the Arabs done in the last 70 years to cultivate or develop that region?
riggsdj 3 weeks ago in playlist Afterburner with Bill Whittle
@riggsdj Lets look at Palestine for example. Palestinians are walled off from the rest of the world. Israel controls every aspect of their life. Access to water, trade and aid is all controlled by Israel. Palestine is imprisoned by Israel. How do you turn a desert into an orchard like that?
ListenandQuestion 3 weeks ago
@ListenandQuestion That's exactly who I'm talking about. Why didn't the Arabs make something of that region before Zionism started and the Jews returned to the area? Why did it take the Jews making something good out of the land (that tiny country is the #4 exporter of fruit int he world) to make the Arabs jealous and want it now that the area is actually worth something?
riggsdj 3 weeks ago
@ListenandQuestion How about by not spending money on all of the missles that they fire at Israel? Wouldn't that be a start? Or actually accepting to talk about new boundaries (in their favor)?
Nawor666 1 week ago
@ListenandQuestion Why do Jordan and Syria leave them rotting there?
henrycate 1 week ago
@henrycate why don't Jordan and Syria help Palestine? I'm guessing thats your question. And the answer is obvious: they would be slaughtered in battle.. The US gives Israel unconditional aid and Israel has one of the largest and most well-trained army in the world. Nobody wants to stand up to Israel and the US. They're bullies basically, thats why people resort to terrorists groups, because they feel like they have no other option.
ListenandQuestion 6 days ago
I have to wonder if philosophy and the arts are viewed as poorly as the studies listed in this video.
kathulas 1 month ago
@kathulas Why should you care? The original idea of education was to make a cultured man. That's 99% gone now, and colleges are glorified trade schools. If you want to study philosophy or the arts, go right ahead! But you should be ready for what I have actually seen, back in the early '80s, which was people with Ph.Ds in philosophy taking jobs as beginning programmers to put food on the table. Same with the arts; they don't typically feed you. Your choice!
henrycate 1 week ago
this gives me real hope that we will be a free capitalist country again.
halloranedward 1 month ago 2
GO BOB!
navymexican 1 month ago 2
4:59 This is how I feel the about the entire liberal community. This childish sense of entitlement. "I deserve this because the person next to me has it." It is certainly a brainless decision right? With this way of thinking, why should you work hard to get what you want and where you want in life? I mean, after all, You'd be stupid to in a completely socialist society, where everyone is equal! Oh how misguided you must be.
AegisRick 1 month ago
Mr Whittle: You know you did the very behavior you "detest in a person": YOU NAME DROP: "John Voit...": how otiose of you. You can do much better.
ManosOceano 1 month ago
Good People: research FEMA camps and the NDAA.
ManosOceano 1 month ago
Really funny argument.... blame Palestinians not to irrigate the desert and give them an example of Israel... the same state that steal their water and land.
Lav0ndyss 1 month ago in playlist bill whittle
Go Bob!!!
paunocu666 1 month ago 2
The thing that annoys me about this OWS movement and their desire to destroy capitalism is that they want to destroy the fairest economic system there is. As we all have needs and wants and capitalism rewards people who supply those needs and wants to us and if these people are allowed to prosper they will need people (Employees) to help them keep up with the needs and wants of the public
StAllawah 1 month ago
I think Whittle misrepresents the OWS movement. I have seen video evidence of OWS marches/protests around the country that touch on many different issues of society including schools, immigration, healthcare, prison and military industrial complex, ext. ext... Viewing the footage and news on the issues the movement covers were just as easy to come by as this video. Independent news sources that actually cover the movement also have youtube channels
YoungTon22 1 month ago
go read a book on persian engineering then talk about the western mentality WEST = GOOD Thieves
persianality123 1 month ago
@persianality123 Greek & Roman (the cradles of the West) engineering was far superior to Persian. After the fall of the Roman empire, innovation exploded in Europe; wind and water power, agriculture, reclaiming land flooded by the sea and much, much more. Therein lies the difference: Eastern innovation was exclusively aristocratic, Western innovation began from the ground up, with the commoner, and so led to even more innovation.
OscarSchneegans 1 month ago
Mr. Wittle's comments are so logical and up front that I know it fries the brains of the leftists/progressives who don't have the intellectual capacity to handle so much truth and enlightenment. Great job! We should put our pennies together, rent an office suite or store front and loop Afterburner and Bill's other programs to a huge outdoor screen blasting his commentary as loud as possible to the Occupy crowd ! They would love that right!!! Great program.
IruleOverProgressive 2 months ago 15
the only thing more depressing than a possible obama re election is the sad ,pitiful whiny halfwits who fill out the unwashed ,bovine ,THC addled cohorts of OWS ..TRULY ,the special Olympics of protest movements .
woodenmajor 2 months ago
Shout out to the college students who know what Mr. Whittle is talking about! No one is gonna hand me my six figure job, I am gonna have to WORK for it!!! How did those kids get into colleges in the first place! Go, Noles!
stopcallingmekevin 2 months ago 7
Oh wow, that was so arrogant! Japanese werent good engineers before WWI?! What a pile of horseshit.
LapinPete 2 months ago
@LapinPete
Krhm...I don't think Bill said that "Japanese werent good engineers". He, or moreover The Bridge Over the River Kwai, compared the differences of Japanease and British attitude towards the building of a bridge. He also mentioned how Japan succesfully adobted the western style attitude after WWII, of course the Japanease were good before, after WWII they were even better: Toyota, Mitshubishi etc. are a proof of that.
KleopatraLtd 2 months ago 2
His starting with Imagination is in total agreement with the Dali Lama and Oprah Winfreh and everyone who believes in BS and the supernatural, including (gulp) the Japanese! It cannot be right.
Isn't it more likely that we start with what we KNOW, and then explore the possibilities, with the help of our imagination? If it works the way he says, there is nothing to stop us from considering pie-in-the-sky BS as possibilities, with no way to check them. Check them against what?
RickDS200 2 months ago
@RickDS200
You first have to have an idea of what to do with what we know...no matter how bizzare or "pie-in-the-sky" the idea seems. Think about the engine in a car: we have this chamber in which we constantly explode this black liquid and this coupled with gears and cylinders moves wheels that move this basket. Far fetched, but with the combination of imagination AND knowledge it can be made. If you have no new ideas, no imagination, youre stuck even if you know everything.
KleopatraLtd 2 months ago
@KleopatraLtd Thanks for your comments!
I don't see why one cannot form hypotheses arrived at from evidence, AND then use his imagination to examine the possibilities, and gain new knowledge. Imagination needs to be checked by some standard, evidence or knowledge, and purpose if it is to help us.
Whittle does not show how the Western Tradition uses imagination differently from the East. But distinguishing the West from the East (And the OWS) was the whole point here.
RickDS200 2 months ago
@RickDS200
I believe Whittle tried to highlight the fact that OWS hasnt got any new ideas, they mearly beat the drum and demand evermore entitlements, much the same way as Imperial Japan army officers only built new bridges, never bothering to reflect why their bridges fell so easily.
KleopatraLtd 2 months ago 3
I agree with the fundamental views of gumption, education, and gratitude, which is why I hate OWS. Bill is a very intelligent man about social and domestic issues, but I disagree with analysis of Western dominance and Israel. Palestine is in peril due to a nearly 50 year illegal Israeli occupation of their land. As a result of this they are in a a similar position as was East Germany- under the oppression of a bitter occupier. And Western hegemony can be attributed to a number factors.
Slacktide420 2 months ago
@Slacktide420 Please elaborate on Palestine. Please explain your theory on East German occupation. What factors?
kesselster 2 months ago
@Slacktide420 After WWI, the land there was ceded to the British by the Ottoman empire. It therefore belonged to the UK. They then decided to carve out a piece and make it a Jewish homeland. Israel petitioned and received nation status from the UN in 1948. The Palestinian areas now are territory won in war. Just what part of that is illegal?
TXKafir 2 months ago 3
Not a bad video Bill, but I think some more examples of how this thought is "Western" and how it shows up in Israel would have been helpful.
Puglous 3 months ago
Imagination, Ambition, Skill, Work Ethic, Perseverance = all the things required for startups, it's true. I like this video alot.
Makolyte 3 months ago
So irritating land with American/German money is the pre-text for ethnically cleansing a people? You think this is "western" thought? Sounds like your "western" thought has been colonized by the dealers in usury.
dontcallmedude3 3 months ago
For 13.9 million “officially” unemployed who are looking for work, it has become an awful game of musical chairs. There are only 3 million jobs available at any given time and most are filled rapidly, leaving 13.9 million players without chairs.
How do we know all theses people are “looking for work”.........it’s ‘cause if there isn’t a record on them looking for work, they just aren’t counted
The rules have changed and there will be a learning curve. Expectations will have to be altered.
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RichardBeckett66 3 months ago
Jobs went away because under-regulated banks gave “special” loans to people and when these “special” loans re-set, the home owners could not meet the new, increased payments. Then the under-regulated investment bank executives and traders (paid millions in salaries and bonuses) gambled with investor money, and lost. They kept their jobs, got bailed out with taxpayer money, a portion of which was used to pay these crooked gamblers millions in bonuses while no-body got HUNG for what they did.
RichardBeckett66 3 months ago
@RichardBeckett66 under-regulated? It was the government forcing the banks to give sub-prime mortgages, idiot.
TheMarksmenCat 3 months ago
@TheMarksmenCat - I was speaking of “Investment Banks” not “Commercial Banks”. Only 6% of sub-prime loans had any connection to the Community Re-investment Act (CRA), and were only half as likely to default.
The Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission reported in Jan 2011 that the CRA was not a significant factor in sub-prime lending or the crisis“ and further determined it was the "unregulated" Credit Default Swaps (by Investment Banks) that created the sub-prime crisis
RichardBeckett66 2 months ago
@RichardBeckett66 Banks were forced to give loans to "red-line" borrowers. In an attempt to make some semblance of profit from this travesty, they traded these mortages in bundles on the market.
Big surprise that when people couldn't repay them, the bottom dropped out from these "options" that were toxic to begin with. Whoever tricked you into thinking the banks did anything other than what they were directed to do, should be shot.
wulfmanUNCP 2 months ago
Here is what we know about these 13.9 million “officially” unemployed people: They DO want to work. We know this because, until recently they WERE working. Then their jobs went away but rent (house payments), utility payments, car payments, Insurance payments (health, car, house) and other expenses did not go away. AND....they found they still needed to eat.
The top 1% get richer, the remaining 99% get by, and 45 million people in the US live below the poverty level. Something's wrong.
RichardBeckett66 3 months ago
I'd like to see this perspective taught in our schools, explicitly, especially to disadvantaged minorities. Perhaps we'd see fewer mobs looting convenience stores.
MrAdvancedAtheist 3 months ago 2
You can also see the border difference between Haiti (deforested & eroded) and the Dominican Republic (covered with tropical forests). The DR guys have more Western minds than Haitians, which makes them wealthier.
MrAdvancedAtheist 3 months ago 2
umm you can also see this division within states like california and nevada. does this mean that california has western thinking and nevada does not?
raulmedina7 3 months ago
A-fucking-men Bill
Aeronomer 3 months ago
oh Bill Whittle...it must be such a burden to have all the knowledge and all the answers to all the worlds problems...
p.s. i would hate to have to live in the same house as you. your voice alone makes me want to wear airport quality hearing protection.
wonderwhyify 3 months ago
Okay i have 2 jobs and im protesting. this video is ignorant and spreading the propaganda. People dont want federal banks doesnt make them drug dealing rapists. Fuck you Bill, i hate you so much i can taste it.
DorianXLeippi 3 months ago
@DorianXLeippi What exactly are you protesting against?
gbuffon01 3 months ago
@DorianXLeippi Where do you keep the money from your two jobs money Dorian? and what device did you post this message with?
owlsworld 3 months ago
@owlsworld In a credit union bank. a posted this message on a laptop i bought, with the money i earned working on the rigs in canada. Bill could learn a thing or too about "earning something"
DorianXLeippi 3 months ago
@DorianXLeippi WOW your really are a hatefull dumbass
jarheadzader 3 months ago
It is really who controls the water (power). And he is right you can clearly see the results. Yes the winner does take all.
fixitladynow 3 months ago
Pierre Boulle also wrote "Planet of the Apes."
MrAdvancedAtheist 3 months ago
I like Whittle's example of the auto mechanic. The zombie apocalypses celebrate the skills of working class guys who know how to shoot, repair machines & live off the land, like the guys in Discovery Channel shows.
MrAdvancedAtheist 3 months ago
Whittle sounds like a sane version of Ayn Rand. I've seen the film version of the Kwai novel, but now I want to read the novel.
MrAdvancedAtheist 3 months ago 2
I agree with Bill on a lot of things he says. Especially this occupy "bowl" movement.
FotomanCalgary 3 months ago 3
yea, sure. sweet talk the "israel is smart", and than end with a "go bob" (that has a rich uncle he can borrow money from).
OWS is 99% rapist and antisemedic ppl? really? mind showing me where you got your numbers from?
bob's auto repair shop will never take off, because car depot provides lower prices, with cheaper (slave?) labor, and being a bigger componey, will have to pay less taxs than bob.
go bob indeed ...
eyallev 3 months ago
what the fuck! this generation is not full of rapists!!!
raulmedina7 3 months ago
Israel is like that because of the millions and millions of dollars our country sends them each year!!!
raulmedina7 3 months ago
@raulmedina7 More like 1-2% out of israels gdp. 256 billion dollars. idiot.
shining3210 3 months ago
@shining3210 ummm who made sure israel was a country in the first place? the UN which is led by who? the US! so the Israel did not establish itself on its own, it was us
raulmedina7 3 months ago
@raulmedina7 which you can say about EVERY country that was established after 1947.
Israel became a country because it was strong enought (in mental, and in metal) to hold it self together UNTIL the recognetion by the rest of the world (ofcourse the world hardly did anything to help Israel in it's independance war which started right after it was established). So as for your statment, I'd have to say you are mostly wrong.
eyallev 3 months ago
@eyallev what the OWS is protesting is how the banks gave out loans to people they knew couldn't pay it back and when the housing crisis started and the economy went downhill most of these banks were crying to the government for more money and bailouts, and once they get back up again they reward their executives with the tax money the government helped them with in the first place!
raulmedina7 3 months ago
@raulmedina7 And who made sure the u.s will be a country? Europe! Cause before europeans there were only indians there. So no need to decide anything for yourself, let the europeans control you. Thats your logic anyways, go with it all the way..
shining3210 3 months ago
@shining3210 ummm i think the indians were the one that let the colonists survive here in america. if the indians hadn't shown them how to grow crops and other things they early and pathetic settlements would have not survived.
raulmedina7 3 months ago
soooo, this guy doesn't like name dropping but he has an "academy award winning friend"? practice what you preach buddy. having good points doesn't make you not a dumb ass
killermobmonkies 3 months ago
Except you forgot about jim, who also has auto repair skills, and goes to every repair shop in a 50-mile radius and cant get hired...
supersweeper59 3 months ago
Why do we say it is anti-semitic to say that "Jews run the banks, the media, hollywood and have the most powerful lobby in Washinton"? If it's true, and it likely is given how imaginative, ambitious, skilled, and persistant Jews are... Like I say, if it's true, then isn't that a complement?
lukeman62 3 months ago
The people should be protesting in mass.....but shouldnt they be in D.C.?
90% of politicians should not have a day of rest....persued everywhere they go for selling their positions to bankers and robber barons.
We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent."
James Paul Warburg appearing before the Senate on 7th February 1950
DredTheFed 3 months ago
Small business people are Bob!
SuperPatriotMom 3 months ago 3
the occupiers here in Australia want me to share all my profits with them , after 28 years in the Australian army i retired after being injured oversea's , i started a small business and now i have 3 folks working for me , but this to them makes me a fat cat , some weeks (every week for the first year) i took home less than my staff , they had to be paid or my business would not survive i cant do it all myself so i hire folks , i offered them a job , they said they'll have my business
MrKazzilla 3 months ago 28
Bill Whittle - The next Morgan Friedman!!!!!
p.s. Morgan Friedman is my personal hero
frontierteg 3 months ago 3
@MTMercilless People who take issue with Israel are not necessarily "foul." Israel has lied about plenty of things in the past eg their nuclear weapons. But why in your mind do German, Russian, and Polish people have more of right to live in the area than the people who had already been living there for nearly 2000 years? Because a culture which formed in Babylon wrote about it in a storybook?
smiledammit24 3 months ago
@smiledammit24 you are an ignoramus. islam was invented 1400 years ago, not 2000. jews have lived in israel non-stop for over 3000 years. arabs are 20% of israel's population and live better than and with more freedom for opportunity than in ANY arab country. israeli arab population increases at faster rate than jews. for hundred of years arabs always came to what's now israel like mexicans to usa, for work/health benefits/education/dignity and to live with non-muslims who treat them as equals.
2GfH345N 3 months ago
@2GfH345N Palestinians have been around longer than Islam. Your point about Islam is invalid.
smiledammit24 3 months ago
@smiledammit24
palestine is the name the romans gave to the land of israel after they had conquered the the jewish kingdom. there's no such thing as a palestinian people. arabs considered the area as southern syria. no palestinian capital city/newspapers/nationality. JEWS got birth certificates from the british occupiers saying "born in palestine". arabs were mostly just migrant workers.
there's nothing invalid (?) re my point about islam. you obviously do not know the history of islam.
2GfH345N 3 months ago
@smiledammit24 romans changed name of area called kingdom of israel just to spite the jews and called the area palestine from the word philistines who had lived in small area from gaza to ashkelon, but who had disappeared as a distinct group 2500 years ago. btw, original philistines were NOT arab, they were more european and originally came from southern greece. see wikipedia article:
h t t p : / / e n . w i k i p e d i a . o r g / w i k i / P h i l i s t i n e s
2GfH345N 3 months ago
@smiledammit24 till 1967 no arab called himself palestinian.
"There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria. 'Palestine' is alien to us. It is the Zionists who introduced it".
- Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, Syrian Arab leader to British Peel Commission, 1937
2GfH345N 3 months ago
Go Bob!
tdhump1594 3 months ago 2
Love the commercial intro...what happens next?
rjc071 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Right at the beginning: "I absolutely despise name dropping. By the way, my friend who is a super famous actor agrees with me on what I'm about to talk to you about."
wpaxton 3 months ago
We should just end all the entitlement programs and make those idiots go #occupy a job or starve. If they are too stupid or lazy to work, then can either suck money from family and friends or starve. It isn't our problem. There are millions of unfilled jobs out there. Apples in Washington are most likely going to rot because they are short over 10k apple pickers this year. A company I contract for has over 2,000 open positions. The #occupy idiots just need to get off their ass and work for once.
v12tommy 3 months ago 34
@v12tommy So you took a survey of these "idiots" like the veterans, professional women, elderly, and disabled to see who was working? Its so easy to judge people you don't know who are out there to try to save you from corporate slavery! Wake up and stop listening to this six figure income corporate lacky. Talk about entitled, when is the last time he got his hands dirty!
brucecinsf 3 months ago
@brucecinsf I don't see anything wrong with a 6 figure income. I have a 6 figure income from starting my own business. Maybe if you Occupy idiots got off your lazy ass for once in your life and went to occupy a job you could have a 6 figure income someday too. And I wasn't listening to "corporate lackies" either, I got my opinion of the movement from the protesters in their own words here on YouTube. Oh, and the last time I got my hands dirty is when I wash my company vehicle every day loser.
v12tommy 3 months ago 2
@brucecinsf Please, stop trying to save me from your made-up horse manure. I don't need it. Thanks.
wulfmanUNCP 2 months ago
@v12tommy 75% of entitlement recipient households have at least one paycheck coming in.
YoungTon22 1 month ago
@MTMercilless Well said.
SamusVSMC 3 months ago
Jews had always been in Transjordan called Palestine. The division of the middle east was was an arbitrary attempt by the British to bring some sort of order to the ME.
TheBRMueller 3 months ago
doctor, the most right to be there? weren't they created out of thin air and weren't an entire people displaced post-wwii? not sure they have any more right to be there than anyone else; i'd argue certainly less.
fju2112 3 months ago
I'm a college grad who can do basic car maintenance and have been working in a labor intensive job since freshman year. Instead of going to Occupy, I went looking for a job better than my part-time job.
JusuchinPanjirinanu 3 months ago
Bill whittle 2012!!!!!
Covermeporkins11 3 months ago
"Obamavilles". Brilliant.
cpjackson79 3 months ago
Amazing video, as always!
macscottsman88 3 months ago
sentence...yes yes
dgleason2 3 months ago
"allows them time for social networking..."
that is the TRUEST sentance ive heard in awhile....
TY
dgleason2 3 months ago
Great video - thank you for telling the truth!
trime1851 3 months ago
This agrees with Boorstiens thesis of a creator god being a basis for western thought.
TheBRMueller 3 months ago
Obamavilles or tent cities are becomig quite popular with the 9% better know as the unemployed. Four more years of Obama and we will all be heading to Mexico looking for work. But don't worry Im sure they will be just as nice and understanding as we were towards us.
UtherPendragan 3 months ago
Talk about ass kissing. Pour water on a desert and you get a salt plain.
potcrak1 3 months ago
@potcrak1 California, you know the former desert, is now known as the 'bread basket of the world'. Well, it was until the environmentalist flat-earth no growth marxists up in sacramento decided that some obscure smelt was more important than feeding half of the worlds population.
thorzyan 3 months ago 3
I'd take my car to Bob in a heartbeat.
scooter17568 3 months ago
spoilers.
onvogmasaj 3 months ago
Love it, well thought out and presented. To bad they can't take their blinders off and see what is going on around them and how they are being manipulated.
mrbiga55 3 months ago
I think they have plenty of imagination... but their imaginations have been fed nothing but pabulum. "Vision" is the proper word for your first step, Mr Whittle.
somercet1 3 months ago
Best video ever. Go Bob!
thereprieve 3 months ago
Bill Whittle for President!!!
rlebovits 3 months ago
I have an alternative theory:
The Arabs look at the desert and see the desert because they were brought up in a desert and their culture is based on existing with a desert and valuing those cultural constructs that are required in order to survive in a desert.
The Israelis' cultural constructs mean that they look at the desert and see death. Their culture is based on surviving in an urban or Western agricultural setting. So they act accordingly.
ronwfox01 3 months ago
@ronwfox01 a lot of us are from the desert as well, Yemen, Iraq, Morroco, Syria, Egypt, you name it we have people from there. I see what you mean though, it was the original Ashkenazim that started the irrigation and un-desertification (is that a word?) process when they first came
mites7 3 months ago
@ronwfox01 That theory is wrong. The arabs cannot do anything with the desert. The few arab nomads that live in deserts do so by conducting raids on productive people. Without western influence the arab world would be even less than they are now. They cannot even build a nuclear device without lots of help from outside. That's WW2 technology by western standards...
We shouldn't romanticize crap cultures. We all live under the same laws of nature.
scepticsteve 3 months ago 12
@ronwfox01 Good try, but there is a huge chunk of Arabia called "Arabia Felix" which is actually NOT desert. Arabs, traditionally, do not have any particularly high regard for the desert per se. What is cogent to Mr Whittle's observations is that the Palestinian Arabs were not especially noted for agriculture nor horticulture during the time they occupied the Land. Alternatively, the Jews who made aliyah almost proverbially set to reclaim the Land and "make the desert bloom". They still do.
Countrygent100 3 months ago
Bob is my Hero
RETSZTIRF 3 months ago
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The reason? They are God's chosen people.
TheDocinOC 3 months ago
GO BILL!
erakus 3 months ago
FINALLY! I'm so glad I'm not the only one to see these OWS encampments for what they are: Obamavilles!
GO BOB!
RattleheadX 3 months ago 2
Go Bob.
sammytaylorjr 3 months ago
whoa! "Spoiler alert" for the Alec Guiness movie!
(I'm off to rent it, by the way... always knew the whistle tune from the movie but never got to watch it)
achmachat 3 months ago
Can't click 'Like' enough on this one.
ReefThinker 3 months ago
@MTMercilless
what i want to know is why you insist on asking questions when you have already assumed to know the answer.
exactly what is it that you want to know that i "believe" israel on? i try not to do much "believing" of any state. i try and rely on information, facts, and logic to inform my opinions.
i have no hope of having an objective conversation with someone whose black heart is full of prejudice, like yours.
your use the accusation of "hatred" like an excuse, and a hedge
knowthingman 3 months ago
Go Bob go.
darkmannin 3 months ago
Go..Bob..
MrTimotheus85 3 months ago
Bill Whittle is great.
666sigma 3 months ago
Go Bob! Fuck these underdogs in the US who sit in parks all day long doing nothing dawdling their lives away on envy and hatred for men that are of an actual value to society. Humans work, leeches occupy Wall Street.
TakisAthensGr 3 months ago
Marry me bob.....lol
aquawoelfly 3 months ago
Go bill! And "GO BOB!"
Loveschuck87 3 months ago
Bill Whittle consistently blows my mind with how intelligent and spot on he is in his videos. Mad props.
kiddynamo41 3 months ago 4
"Go Bob"
DoctorTopper 3 months ago 46
AFTERBURNER!!! WITH WITTLE!!!!! CONFUCSIOUS WITTLE!!!!
KingDingaLing090 3 months ago
Another great video. Thumbs up, Bill! Keep up the good work...
trino26 3 months ago
Yay! Bill fixed his hair.
Wyrmshadow 3 months ago
Here's a part of the problem with this kids, Bill. For their entire life we told them they had to go to college, or they'd end up flipping burgers their whole lives. Now they're out of school, they can't find a job, and what are you suggesting they do? Flip burgers. I like you Bill, I really, really do. But you're preaching to the choir. Telling a kid to get a job he's been brainwashed to think he's too good for isn't going to do anything.
smiledammit24 3 months ago
How do we get you in the classrooms? I am dead serious. My daughter, a college senior, is as conservative as they come, yet when I asked her why one of her friends in law school was getting a $1200 monthly stipend from her grandfather, she said, in all seriousness "she's in law school, she DESERVES it". Counteracting what is taught at universities is much harder than you can imagine. We need to spread your messages Bill.
sybilll 3 months ago
@sybilll not sure why you are suprised "she's in law school, she deserves it" is exactly what I would expect a conservative to say, and is one of the things OWS is protesting against.
I have to admit I don't like the sounds of it, but it does make sanse, why should a rich grandfather be allowed to just give away his money (tax free) like that?
in a world where you need a 1200 stipend to stay in law school, I don't think you'll see too many lawers trying to help the needy.
eyallev 3 months ago
Bill, your makeup is flawless! Lookin' good buddy, two thumbs up.
unohu57 3 months ago
@MTMercilless
i would be interested on the source of that info. thats the first ive heard of it....and seem to me that if this were the case, we would have heard quite a bit about it in the mainstream press, which is generally sympathetic to israel.
knowthingman 3 months ago
This is a very interesting video, with many important themes. Israel is a westernized country, but some perspective is needed here. What is western civilization and of what was it created? Western civ stands upon the Judeo-Christian value system as exemplified in America. So yes, Israel is made out of the same cloth as western civilization, but western civilization came to be thanks to Christianity and thanks to Judaism. The Judeo/Christian based West influenced Israel.
koyunbaba73 3 months ago
@koyunbaba73 The Greeks and Romans in the BC era were Judeo-Christian? Fascinating. Jesus was a time traveler?
smiledammit24 3 months ago
@smiledammit24 Romans did adopt Christianity. He existed in the same time span. Who do you think crucified him?
SteelandSouls15 3 months ago
@smiledammit24 I can handle a little arrogance. I can even handle a little ignorance. But I cannot handle those who are arrogant about their ignorance.
Are you saying that the sum of Western civilization (WC) is BC Greece and Rome? WC began in Jerusalem and spread to Athens and Rome, where it took off and developed throughout the Middle Ages, then through the Early Modern Period and eventually to North America, where the Judaic and Christian Roots of WC were emphasized. Think about it.
koyunbaba73 3 months ago
@koyunbaba73 Yes I've thought about it a lot. I even got a degree in it. Western civilization is definable namely by things like written law, civil vs. common law, democracy, etc. All of these ideas were developed long before Jesus was born. Religion does play a part in it, but Western civilization was largely pagan (in many ways it still is) long after the death of Jesus. To say the roots of Western civilization are in Judaism and Christianity is to ignore 700 years of history.
smiledammit24 3 months ago
@smiledammit24 That's a better response than that crack you made earlier. But you're not the only one with a degree in history. And you're mistaken. Mosaic law came down 1000 years before Christ, and legal statutes from the few hundred years before and after Christ was based upon it, from Theodosius to Clovis. Moreover, what WC is today is far greater and accounts for much more than those legal codes. Our episteme and culture is much more the result of Judeo/Christian thought than Greco/Roman.
koyunbaba73 3 months ago
@koyunbaba73 So your theory is that the Romans borrowed the notion of civil and common law from the Jews? And that the Jews invented democracy? And would you deny that Mosaic law is basically a derivative of Babylonian law? Because if you answer affirmatively to any of the above, I'm wondering what paper mill you got your degree from in that case.
smiledammit24 3 months ago
@smiledammit24 You can draw a direct line from Judaic civil law to Roman civil law. Compare the codes. I want to know why you're equating WC with Rome. The argument I'm making is that Judeo/Christian values (the same Judeo/Christian values honoured in America) is what had the greatest impact on WC as we now know it. We can argue about the impact of Judaism and Christianity on Rome, which is interesting but academic. What distinguishes WC from EC today is the Judeo/Christian value system. Clear?
koyunbaba73 3 months ago
@MTMercilless Agreed. I never cease to be amazed at the level of professionalism they bring to their roles.
Even their airports are secure and not by monitors. Just very observant soldiers.
Simply amazing.
wormer104 3 months ago
@MTMercilless The more I think on knowthingman's post the more incredible it sounds.
The Israelis are well-armed fighters. Why on earth would you BOARD THE CRAFT if all you wanted was to kill the occupants?
The easier method would be to surround the vessel and attack it with explosives and bullets shreddinG the occupants.
Then you simply loiter killing every body that surfaces.
Like I said. Incredible. Incredible that someone could think this in the face of such evidence to the contrary.
wormer104 3 months ago 3
@wormer104
my guess is that even israel doesnt want to push the limits of breaking international law. how is it that you advocate that israeli should cavalierly "loitering and kill everyone", but would probably think this advice repugnant if it were offered to palestinians.
lets leave the double standards to the liberals. they're much better at it. by you appear to be a hypocrite when you advocate that one group of people do what you call terrorism when another group does it.
knowthingman 3 months ago
@knowthingman It's called logic mac. If killing was the goal soldiers need never have boarded the craft yet they DID.
And if all you have are ad hominem attacks we are done here.
wormer104 3 months ago
@wormer104
an ad hom is calling people names. calling someone out on their obvious double standards, and questioning their bias isnt a personal attack, unless of course you are just incredibly sensitive, in which case you probably shouldnt be having a disagreement/discussion of a serious and adult topic, so as to protect your feelings.
however, if you would like to use that as an excuse for exiting the convo becuause you cant provide any substance to your claims, then be my guest.
knowthingman 3 months ago
East vs West.... different perspectives, different ways to tackle things. I came from an asian heritage with a western education and grew up in a protestant christian home living in a western country so there you go. As an old native american saying goes, "one hill, different trails".
kit2ng219 3 months ago
When I visited the USA in 1990, I went to two of your greatest engineering achievements: The Golden Gate Bridge and Hoover Dam. At both sites, there is a plaque commemorating the names of those workers who died during the construction of these collosal marvels.
Archaeologists will look in vain for similar plaques at the Great Pyramid, or the Great Wall of China.
Remembering the name of the 'little guy' - the Bobs and Joes of this world...
... now THAT's Western culture at its best.
Countrygent100 3 months ago
@Countrygent100
Interesting. I always like hearing about foreigners perspectives on the US. What country are you from?
karozans 3 months ago
@karozans Hi there, Karozans. I'm from Australia.
Countrygent100 3 months ago
@Countrygent100
Oh nice. I have never been to a foreign country. I have only been to Mexico. LOL.
I always said that if there was one country I would visit, it would be Australia.
karozans 3 months ago
@karozans Hello again. Yeah, it's a beaut country, my Australia. We don't call it "the lucky country" for nothing. We've managed to avoid most of the failings of most other countries, although we have our own problems. Most of us are pretty easy going; some are complete dickheads but you get that everywhere. Oh, if you're thinking of visiting, you should know our beer tends to be stronger than yours & we drink a lot of it. Country towns & Queensland are the most conservative places. Cheers!
Countrygent100 3 months ago
@Countrygent100
Yes I have noticed that. We in the States don't hear much from Australia in the news. I guess that is a good thing. No news is good news.
Yeah, anywhere you go there is the bottom 10% that ruin it for everyone. I am sure you hear about all the crap that goes on here in the US, but I hope you don't think we are all like our politicians and celebrities. Most of us just want to be left alone to make a living.
I like Guinness beer. Is Aussie beer similar in strength?
karozans 3 months ago
@karozans Guinness is quite popular in Australia - especially in the winter and in what we call "Irish" pubs which are really a kind of commercialised pseudo-Irish affair. Some can be pretty dull, but the good ones have live music and are brilliant for a Friday/Saturday night. Australian beer (mostly lager) is often 5% alcohol & is served cold. Ales are popular; cider less so. Women drink chilled wine & they really like pre-mixed flavored spirits as do trendy Gen Y males. More info follows...
Countrygent100 3 months ago
@karozans ... getting off-topic, but to finish off:
Pre-mixed flavoured spirits in bottles (eg: vodka mixed with lemon or raspberry cordial) is heavily marketed towards women in Australia, although men "confident in their masculinity" will try one on a night out. Usually, though, if you're a man & you ask for a "breezer" or a "cooler" (as they're called in Australia) you might be seen as sending mixed messages in certain crowds. Man+lots-of-beer+keeps control = GOOD BLOKE! (High praise indeed!)
Countrygent100 3 months ago
@Countrygent100
Nice. That sounds fairly similar to here in the states. I think our beer is only like 3%, unless you buy the good stuff.
The only large production beer I can drink brewed in the states is Sam Adams. There is tons of micro-brew that I like.
I only drink premium import (large production). Bass is probably one of my favorite.
I am not a huge beer connoisseur, but I like a few.
karozans 3 months ago
@MTMercilless Might have. I think I remember that being mentioned but it has been awhile since I've reviewed the case.
wormer104 3 months ago
FINALLY SOMEONE CALLS THEM OBAMAVILLE's, my idea
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