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  • holy shit , i remember watching this untill about ep 10 , then i quit wow , but i had no idea it was in fucking 2009... time FLEW by

  • 2 months ago was the last comment... Wow. Am I really the only person who likes looking back? Anyway, he -is- so young here. About 2 years (and 2 months) younger. You're getting old(er), Lore!

  • Five months ago was the last comment... Wow. Am I really the only person who likes looking back? Anyway, he -is- so young here. About two years younger. You're getting old(er), Lore!

  • Aww! He's so young here.

  • Amazing how much more comfortable hes gotten with these.

  • Oh look its Terry Fox.

  • /dance Lore

  • can any post the macro here?:-)

  • a tiefighter :P are you kidding :P?

  • He reminds me of Ellen De Generis D:

  • this can also zoom out u just enter this into the chat window and it works:

    /script SetCVar("cameraDistanceMaxFact­or", "3.4")

  • I found WoWMatrix alot easier to use for addons than cursers

  • Its easyer but it doesnt have mostof the good common known addons tough

  • what did sunwell radiance do?

  • double t eff bliz why u hate tank

  • whats the background music?

  • Yep, i also use /console cameradistancemaxfactor 4

  • lore perhaps time for an updated dk dps guide?

  • finally i found your whole back music and i download it.

  • please tell us!!!!

  • very simple mate

    go find it by ur self

    its took me 2 months :)

  • The Macro for Zoom out is :

    /console cameradistancemaxfactor 4

  • THANKS SO MUCH! looked on the site for like an hour for this! thanks!

  • Yw :)

  • lol maxfactor

  • I just lol'd when I saw the coffee mug at the beginning, since my favorite mugs that I drink with when playing video games look pretty much exactly like it.

    Big Mug=Less times I have to go for a refill while raiding ^_^

  • Great video again lore :D

  • How do u set up and use Death clock?

  • You cant zoom that far with interface settings, /console cameradistancemaxfactor 4 works

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  • ty for the addons its really going to help me out :D

  • Thnx for clearing that out the Chill of the Throne part.

    But I am a healer so I would like to mention a thing you left out. I I am not thinking completely wrong it will do that the dmg is more equal over a long period of time, not as it does now and comes in "spikes", imo it will make that you can, the best word I can find for it is, "plan" your heals better.

  • yup

    in a nutshell, it smooths out the dmg a tank takes. they take less dmg, but more often

  • Yeah, it's actually MORE beneficial for healers, in my view. I'm a Holy Paladin, and I've seen tanks drop in two seconds on HM NR Beasts in about a second, and we couldn't do anything for him.

    The Chill of the Throne is actually going to make it to where instead of having a tank randomly dropping in a second, his health will decrease more gradually than the fights are designed to do, now.

    I actually look forward to the whole Chill of the Throne deal.

  • lol i've watched this video probably 10 times mainly just for the opening thing lol gets me everytime

  • By the way, what is that song that you use Lore? It's sounds really nice, catchy

  • Another way to increase the max zoom out.

    Escape > Interface > Camera > Max Zoom Distance

  • With the zooming out you can just change that from the default WoW ui

  • Heroic northrend beasts....Fuck no

  • What the heck are you drinking at the start? signed: fellow mug user

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  • 2, Lore is a prttychll guy, seems pretty patient, andd very thorough when explaining things :) Gj Lore! (BTW, Statix, Pally tank, Cenarion circle, Draenei..... look me up and throw some suggestions out there :D)

  • well first of all get expertise capped, else it looks to be alright :)

  • lets have ciderhelm make a video :P

  • "WTF blizz why do you hate tank?" @ 6:16

  • oh oh 2 post in a row i know im a troll BUT

    here is a vote

    1. to see cider helm

    2. to not see him

    VOTE NOW

  • BTW I vote for

    1

  • late post but... please keep there up :)

    just one point, add to vid backround with somthing you like/wow just to keep up the ADHD fits i have. thax

  • one thing about the camera thing, there is a setting in the WoW Interface under camera that allows you to change the camera distance but i think it isn't as far as the macro (for those too lazy to type in the /SetCVar chain)

  • i need help figureing out the pitbull portrait

  • Are you drinking sewer water? lol

  • @Sealie Looks like chocolate milk in a beerglas to me.

  • love the intro lol

  • That intro is hello scary

  • what is your rotation as a ret paladin?

  • Reply to FFanx10:

    Put any spell that does damage onto spell bar.

    smash face onto keyboard

    profit

  • Haha

  • Frodo Baggins

  • this guy turns me on

  • Thats scary.

  • I can't find the player unit frame on the settings o.O

  • what was the word for the UI?

  • HOLY PALADIN!!! Kemplore on Cenarius

  • chocolate milk is awesome

  • is that chocolate milk that your drinking

  • Quartz <_____

  • what's the addon he says at 01:53

  • quartz

  • Ok seriously. Just give me a link to their music files. I've asked like 10000000 times lol.

  • Love the new video series, keep 'em coming. =)

  • This is gonna be a pain, im gonna have to regear pretty much, and stamina stacking warriors just arent competing with druids and paladins right now. My solution for sunwell was to reroll a caster dps, gonna have to see what my solution is going to be this time.

  • i like this series a lot, really interested to see where you take it

  • aaaa i cant get pitbull to make the 3d thing =[

  • Haha you have curly hair! It's funny because my curls are so tight! :P

  • LOL I love the beginning.

    It's so good to see the voice behind the videos. =P

  • FRODO PLAYS WOW?!!?

  • Who the hell else would!

  • hes cool no frodo :D

  • Time to get lots of trinkets with +Armor procs and Use affects for my DK methinks.

    He said that a tanks priority is not to change, but with tanks taking weaker hits more often, surely now is the time for Warriors and Paladins to start stacking SBV?

  • Lol, you think his hair is crazy? Heh, mine is more insane.

  • good info, im healer i've been wanting to tank forever

  • If you use WowMatrix, you can find Aloft there as well

  • I just wanna say to all that complain on hes haircut that they shall get aa life. he is not here do a video for nice haircuts he is here do learn about wow and he is doing a really great job and that whats matters.

    Ps; keep up the good work.

  • druids can still potentially tank icc since they have an abnormally large health pool(atleast the druids in my guild have)

  • W-T-F Blizz why you hate tank?? That cracked me up. Good video, thanks for making em

  • could u please tell me how to move my chat window or give an addon for moving it pls pls pls

  • just right click the chat tab and there is an option in there to unlock it. Then you can move it anywhere you want then right click it again to lock it

  • right click on the general chat tab and click unlock

    then you can click and drag it to wherever you want ^^

  • that debuff is really only gonna affect druid tanks seeing as all they have is dodge so everyone else is still good to go.

  • Wrong, It effects other tanks MORE, since they're more avoidance based, while druids have the lowest avoidance and the best way to soak it if it gets nerfed. Basically the OPPOSITE of which you just said.

  • uuuuuuuuhgaaa NERDS!!

  • LOL

  • HE'S FUCKING HOT ;)

  • @drake733ca If you think that chill of the throne will sap your pally mana generation pls reroll.

  • You know how this sucks to prot warriors? This means less threat per second due to less dodge=less revenge casts. This may not necessarily mean less revenge it means that the chances of having it lighten up on your toolbar is lower. Parry and block just wont cut it. Anyone have a counterargument before i go ballistic?

  • bubi dk tanks

  • the amount of overhealing, that i see on myself whill rading is insane.

    some of it might acctualy heal me now.

  • hmm maybe block gear will be valuable for icecrown :P

  • nope. still sucks ass for all but trash lol.

  • why are you searching for this person on a video for WoW players?

  • he looks like frodo from lord of the rings

  • LOL indeed!

  • lol pause at 1:07

  • Another great video Lore, i missed those podcasts. Glad you and cider worked this weekly vid out. Keep em coming.

  • what rotation do you use as a ret... not sure if you said it in your first video...

  • Great video, this is a cool initiative :). Did Ciderhelm stop playing or something? Haven't heard a cough from him since the short Blizzcon note.

  • He does podcasts on the website

  • I am very much still around, but I've taken on a more administrative role due to the expansion of the site (and due to work on our game project!). Expect to see more of me soon. :)

  • well this is from a not superly geard pally tanks view right now i have like 30% dodge in combat but thats not wher most my avoidance even comes from its more block and parry so it wouldn't really effect us considering that we have holy shield up at almost all times so im kinda excited to see bosses not hitting like a truck.

  • Nice Vid.

  • /console cameraDistanceMax 50

    Macro for max camera.

  • Dude you need to get some sleep bro lol looks like you've been without a good sleep for like 4 days.

  • i like this episode and your explanation was great!

  • lol nice intro

  • whats the catchy tune playing in the background?

  • Maaaaan I ljust loooove the way u explain things. Nice, nice!

  • they hate druid tanks dont they? all druids hav is dodge, no parry or block so druids r screwed over by this!

  • we still have our high hp

  • druids tend have alot more dodge than other tanks,so with the chill of the throne your still gunna have more than other tanks like lore said bosses aint gunna be hitting for truck loads(with your high hp you shouldnt have any probs)just rly fast for a little bit unless your healers are sloths dont worry bout it :P

  • hi can you make a guide about prot pally?

  • Paladins and warriors are gonna get screwed by this. Blocking is nice but it is basically useless because we only take a small amount less damage. As a paladin i rely on dodge and parry far more then block

  • one who wants to know how to zoom the camera out really far use this macro

    /console cameraDistanceMaxFactor 4

    and yes u must have the capitals in there

  • /console cameraDistanceMaxFactor 5 is the farthest you can zoom out. any number from 1 - 5 works, with 3 being default.

  • i got 27.% dodge i'll be fine lol

  • if you use curse client, using TimeToDie instead of deathclock is much more comfortable ;)

  • its all opinion

  • btw what topia  ? utopia or wth, the addon that shows the buffz ( the talenteds)

  • btw this chil of the throne is suposed to be like the ol' radiance of the sunwell , its there to make tanks not getting crush cap ( 100% all avoidence) , but one thing too, they dont want feral druids to tank :P

  • hehe thx :) I rly like the idea of this project :D

    keep it up :)))

  • He has the eyes of a killer.

  • by by warrior hello warlock blizzard screws way to mutch with chars GIVE US SOMETHING TO HOLD ON TO !

  • Great vid but dude a little sun isn't such a bad idea! Definitely gonna check these add ons.

  • Do you use anything like ora2 for raid leading? Have you ever tried it? If so, do you have an opinion on it?

  • You know what's majorly awesome?! I setup my UI (with manual installs) last week to mimic Lores'. Got a keylogger and hacked! Ha, gotta love the irony :/

  • stack parry if ur bitching about getting hit :D

  • Great job, keep up the good work !

  • also if you're running togc and assuming you're group is geared enough for togc, you have high enough dps to beat boss timers (beasts), kill portals (jaraxxus), etc. thus the hardest part of the instance in my experience (which i admit is only 3/5) is the transition between gormok and the worms.

    i'm told that a priest can levitate all the ranged and healers throughout the gormok phase, and they will take the initial hit from the fire but not the debuff as the fire won't spawn? confirm/deny?

  • Confirmed, we do this every attempt and it prevents a lot of damage and running.

  • in togc, we have our tanks and healers rotate cooldowns while the last snobold is being killed, due to gormok's damage increase as the fight progresses. and we still lose tanks from time to time since when he hits that 2nd impale (we switch tanks at 2 stacks) it's ticking for 17k or so PLUS he's hitting for like 25k melee hits PLUS the initial damage when he applies the impale .....

    tanks may still get gibbed, but tanks and healers rotating cooldowns minimizes the chance of that.

  • your healers must suck if your tanks are dieing on gormok, especially when you can bop a stack of impales off of a tank.

  • you must not be running togc at all if your tanks never die on gormok. either you're a bad troll or you have no knowledge of this encounter, so i'll spell it out for you:

    it's not the impale that kills tanks. it's the 70k or so damage gormok does in about 1.5 seconds before and after the 2nd impale stack. so you bop the tank AFTER gormok dies, they /cancelaura and pick up the worms. you're not suggesting bop a tank before gormok dies, are you? 'cause ... that would be a wipe.

  • Gormok ftl, I hate it when the tank gets 1 shotted. We were doing 3 tank rotation for him, yet when the tanks taunted, they were greeted with a lovely 40k hit.

  • I like the quick break down on the -20% avoidance.

    But what of paladin tanks, For instance.

    Blessing of Sanctuary for me to keep my mana up.

    I need to dodge parry and block.

    Now if I have less avoidance, I am going to get less mana, Which effectively gives me less threat and less survivability.

    It would be really awesome if you can kind of fill me in on this.

  • Easiest way to fix your tank mana issue is to Spec 2 points into "Guarded by the Light" also 2 points into "Spiritual Attunement" With this you have to start out wtih your divine plea and constantly wack the boss/mob and it will constantly be replenished meaning you should never run out of mana..you also want to keep your blessing of sanc on, because chances are you should keep dodging and blocking maybe not as frequent but still. Also I recommend glyph of Divine plea to lessen the your damage.

  • I think I am misunderstood, I currently have no mana issues.

    Its the fact that in the next patch, with the deduction in avoidance, Blessing of Sanctuary will actually be less effective if I am understanding right.

    Because due to the fact that we GAIN mana for avoiding.

    Thats our prime income of mana.

    without us avoiding we get less mana. you see?

  • Ah yes but in the next patch that will help you..but Blessing of sanctuary is still a good damage reducer and just cause we lose SOME avoidance doesn't mean were losing all of it..my palidan has a 15% block 18% parry and a 25% dodge so if that gets lowered a little bit then it shouldn't effect me tooo much :D

  • what are druids gonna do? rofl your fucked yet again Druids!

  • yeah that -20% dodge debuff means quite a bit more for DK tanks than most other tanking classes because our main threat generating move procs from a dodge or parry etc ... unless you have very high dodge they've pretty much made DKs a non-viable tanking class for Icecrown ... or atleast a massively unpreffered tanking class. Stupid really. Parry stacking for the loss

  • Thanks for the great advice for noobs like me. Yeah I have 2 80's toons and still learning.

  • I love healing:P

    I don't think its too hard at all.

    I heal 25 mans without addons...err except recount and dbm.

  • Ye sure w/e , first see then believe

  • Zoom out macro: ''/console cameradistancemaxfactor 5''

  • You are absolutely right m8! =D

  • thanks alot! i totally understand now ^^

  • /console cameradistancemaxfactor 4

  • Hai lore, youre awesome.

    Even through i actually quit wow, i still enjoy watching these videos and hearing you talk about whatever you feel like talking about.

    Id like your opinions when it comes to the diffirent classes, and which class suits what the best?

  • if people cant bother to check the homepage for the macro, here it is "/console cameradistancemaxfactor 5" that will make you zoom out more

  • hmm, he kinda explained that 20% dodge reduce well but i just feel sorry for my co-MT :( poor druid gona get his main stat nerfd to shit xS but ye, like the explination u did Lore :) GJ, but since ur dodge is going down, as Warr i instantly thought, ok, should i gem for Parry/sta instead of Dodge/sta just to counter it a litle bit?

  • Ah druid's are fine. On my druid tank i've always stacked stamina. dodge is just a bonus from stuff :)

  • AWSOME!

  • ok um i think to meany people are getting to one game

  • i want to tank so badly but I've never actually followed through on leveling one of those four classes, im all heals.

    I agree with Blizzard as a healer on the Avoidance nerf, I'm kinda sick of bored raid healing. I want to see the tanks get hit more often and in a 25man raid healing the tank is only a priority of about 2 people.

  • As a healer you probably like it, but try being a tank. I hated that nerf.

  • I'll love it as a healer, I'm tired of healing just being a contest of timing your cast waiting 10 seconds for the tank to actaually lose health, DAMN the paladin got it!

  • i agree its incredibly boring especially during raids........*cough* im a holy pally XD

  • I wouldn't really know but yeah Paladins are known to have a shitload of overhealing and cause a shitload of overhealing to Paladins. But I don't think I'll ever heal. I saw Aliena's UI and it looks like you need to setup quite a few things to help you be a good healer. So yeah I'mma stick to tanking.

  • Not necessarily, I'm a healadin all I did was just use some raid addons and then get personal addons which move things around to fit you, its whatever is really comfortable for you.

  • Well to be honest, you either have to pay a lot of attention to your procs and the debuffs the raid is getting and whoever needs heals or you're going to miss it without the addon. So yeah, to make your job easier you need to get that stuff IMHO.

  • I totally agree with that, I think its one of them rolls where you have to keep focused depends really if your prone to not getting fed up clicking/pressing the same few buttons.

  • Yeah exactly my point. Healing is in my opinion the hardest job, but definately most boring in Heroics. I've done everything in Uld 25+ content. I raid healed as a Resto Druid, tanked as a Prot Paladin and DK tank, and DPS'd as a Surv Hunter and a DPS DK. And this is what I think in difficulty healing > DPSing > tanking. My main is a tank and everything else I use friend's accounts. As a healer I had to be paying attention through the entire fight tanking I just move a few feet usually.

  • "As a healer I had to be paying attention through the entire fight tanking I just move a few feet usually."

    Spoken like a true noob (for lack of a better word).

    Lol.

  • Lol, doesn't take much to tank. I've tanked every content except for ToGC 10/25. And it's 6:30 am so I'm not 100% and won't comment perfectly.

  • Camera Zoom Macro /console cameradistancemaxfactor 5

  • @ 9:40, you will notice a little IMO. Your hp bar goes up and down a lot more XD

  • You can also use the WOW interface options under "camera" to alter the max camera distance. Although maybe not as far, it's pretty decent if one doesn't need to go into console commands.

  • LORE talk about LORE

    ;)

  • My priest can put out 10k HPS ^^ Healing per second , atleast what i did on Thorim Hard mode 2 healers , 19k HPS in total me and drood, Good or bad? he said i had 10k hps