@cstorks1 so thats wht UW madison hates him for going to marquette? if tht was the truth then they wouldnt make such a big deal, instead they would be saying oh hes too dumb to come here so he went to marquette. Instead, they are jealous. which means he couldve gone anywhere, but picked the place where he felt he could develop more as a person and a player
@CyKoBlaQ i nvr said he didnt have any athleticism. All bball players with the exception of ayers from UWM are athletic. You could even make an argument for ayers. What you were implying was that Hughes was exceptionally or a well above average athletic guard when he is maybe 5/10 on the athletic scale, maybe even a 6/10. Lets think with our brain here. Wisconsin is not known for being athletic, high scoring, or even a "exciting" bball team, although they have exciting games. Blue belongs at MU.
So since Blue is an "Athletic" guard means he doesn't belong at UW? Being athletic only gets you so far, you cant say MU would develop Blue better then Wisconsin would, UW takes nobody's and teaches em how to beat All-Americans, developing an already athletic and talented guard the same way would make him GREAT.
your damn straight. you cant say that it would make him better since he would be playing in such a slow system. Vander Blues ultimate goal would be to play ball professionally. This would mean showing off his abilities, which are more suited towards a MU style of bball, not to mention he would be in the big east. You act as tho im chopping down UW, when im just saying what I believe is the best option for Vander Blue.
Wisconsin and Marquette have the same amount of players in the NBA even with MU's superior "Athleticism" so obviously that has nothing to do with anything.. I guess the NBA has some standards and stays away from the athletic, but turnover frenzy, sloppy, players MU produces year and year out
@CyKoBlaQ ...First of all, MU has been in a large conference for how long compared to Wisconsin? Obviously players were drwn to UW over UM when it belonged to conference USA. This is about whether or not Blue belongs at UM, and the answer is yes, more than he would belong at UW. ALSO, former UW teams have been athleic, and have also been exciting like with Devin Harris and Tucker. I nvr said they were nvr good. I only brought up the NBA b4 bc u did 1st (nonsense). Go watch some more bball plz.
Seriously.. what is your point? You still have not gave a good reason why Blue is better off at MU, Blue is athletic, well so was/is Devin Harris, and wtf, I never brought up the NBA 1st, you did... "Teaching him how to play defense wont get him into the NBA" "Vander Blues ultimate goal would be to play ball professionally"
@thisdayjustbelongedt Well u dont see Wisconsin racking in top 25 talent either, Harris was like the only high caliber prospect Wisconsin has had in prolly the whole decade, Brian Butch was a overrated high school prospect, but other then those 2 not really anyone with NBA type of talent and skills
@Twinyy4 Ok.. and? can u compare him to the others in that All-American game? Lebron James, Luol Deng, Shannon Brown, Kendrick Perkins, Chris Paul, Leon Powe, Kris Humphries even in college? No! so like i stated he was overrated coming out of high school, 5 star top 10 in the nation? i dnt think so..
@lgg27 ok everyone, for the last time. I was talking about THE UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN-MADISON. not madison memorial high school. not the state of wisconsin. the 4 year university whose mascot is the badgers. i dont understand what is so hard to understand about that
and as for ur last statement. If its so easy to take a athletic guard and make him great by teaching him the basics, fundementals, and more mental aspects of the game which you seem to think only UW can do effectively, why cant i take a great shooter and all around smart bball player, and just throw him in a gym and train him and mold him into a more athletic player? its not so easy, and UM would prob teach him the same exact things UW would, but they would be implemented into his game a lil dif
wow Maymon just left outta nowhere, sumthin with academics or what?? i belive blue is staying at Marquette no matter what according to his mama, but can he even change his mind after singing a LOI?
I'm also glad Vander decided on MU...only adds to the rivalry of MU and WI ... either way, this kid will likely be good no matter where he chooses to play (I say chooses because with Maymon gone from MU, the guy needs to look over his situation and make sure this is REALLY what he wants...Maymon played big role in decision, whether he admits it or not)
Lastly, all these players with unbelievable potential go to Marquette with Dwayne Wade-esque dreams. They don't think about Devin Harris, Michael Finley, Marcus Landry, Alando Tucker. Wisconsin has more consistently produced solid NBA basketball players. That is the flaw in many recruit's thoughts.
were talking about an upcoming program here. Marquette was formerly in Conference USA, and they have only been in the BEST conference in collegiate basketball since 2005. Please, if you honestly believe that the Big Ten is at the same level as the Big East, your just being ignorant. Recruits go to the Big East because if you can excel there, you can definitely excel in the NBA. Devin Harris and Michael Finely are your only 2 good Wisconsin players on you little list.
Ok a few points...first off, wisconsin isnt just full of big white people...i'd rather have trevon hughes running my offense than any other player between the two teams. Secondly, playing in the big east is no longer an argument for better competition. Yes last year the big East was very good, but still the Big Ten had a pretty strong showing in the tournament.
Continuing on your previous statement, if recruits had dreams of being like Michael Finely, Marcus Landry, and Alando Tucker, the world would be a sad place. Also, your statement that Wisconsin has more consistently produced NBA players is the biggest BS I have ever heard. In current years, Marquette has surpassed Wisconsin in current NBA players. Players like Diener, Novak, Mathews, Chris Crawford and Dwayne Wade. Big East > Big Ten. Everyone agrees. Players from the Big East excel in the NBA.
all the waiting and speculating is over, blue verballed to MARQUETTE today. marquette will not lose blue, like uw managed to do after he verballed. marquette is going to be nasty in a couple years
Marquette sucks ass, they get better athletes than the UW and still cant do shit with them. Shitty ass coaching. Vander Blue is an idiot for listening to Maymon and Mathews in making his decision rather then doin whats right for himself
whoa. must be a wisconsin fan. Big white ppl go to UW, athletic black ppl go to Marquette. And lets get something straight, while UW coaching is way better, Marquette still plays in the Big East, and does fairly well every year. Vander Blue to Marquette is the best choice.
so i dont understand what ur trying to say. U say that neither team does well in the tournament, but that he should go to UW because of better coaching? If you wanna maximize the potential of a player like Vander Blue, you send him to a team that fits his style. Wisc is a half court team, they dont run. Vander Blue would fit in much better with a running full court team like marquette. Besides, exposing him to the players in the big east will help "Maximize his potential" more than the big 10
Just because you play a run offense in high school doesnt mean you cant have more success playing half court in college, and its been proven every year, stop marquette from getting fast breaks and they buckle. What i ment when i said maximize his potential is yea we know he can play marquette offense but UW teaches the best defense in the nation
Lost to UWGB and u say the teach the best deffense in the nation. Ill guarantee ur a wisc alumni. Im not an alumni to either Marquette nor Wisconsin. You may be saying all this, believing every word you say, only because you want whats best for UW. I want to see Vander Blue succeed. Teaching him how to play defense wont get him into the NBA or into Europe for that matter. Showing off his talent will, and Marquette will show it off more. He will play against top teams EVERY night in the Bid East.
Im only 19, and defense wont get you into the NBA? ever heard of Bruce Bowen? a team is only as good as there coaches, and dont start with that big east is better then big ten bullshit, please..
LMAO. Bruce Bowen was also a fine offensive player as well, but was more well known in his latter years for his tough, physical defense. While Wisconsin may have an above average team defense, its individual players lack skill at this moment, both offensively and defensively. You act as though defense alone will get you into the NBA. NEWS FLASH. It WONT. Ill agree that Wisconsin has a better coach, but give Buzz time, he is still considered a young coach. Athletic guards belong at Marquette.
athletic guards belong at MU? why?so they learn to jack up constant 3pt shots n turn ball over 5x a game? I know many students at MU and they ALL tell me they're about ready to throw in the towel on MU basketball n start rooting for WI. Sure, WI play can be slow and boring, but kids running system learn 2 b controlled, consistent n good decision makers. Trevon Hughes, WILD shot taker, but now poised, calm, consistent leader.
He will nvr make it at the next level. And if ppl say they are ready to throw in the towel on MU, then they arent bball fans. This will be a rebuilding year for MU, and if people dont understand that, tell them to go watch Duke, NC or the plethora of Big East teams that compete and recruit well every year. For UW, I thought it woulld be 2, but it SEEMS they are playing consitantly, but mostly due to Bo Ryan. Athletic guards fit into MU's system better than UW. Hughes is NOT an athletic guard.
Hughes is not an athletic guard? lol thats a joke, he didnt do much at the MU vs UW game but he really didnt have too with Luer dominating, watch his other games from this year and tell me he's not athletic, seriously you sound so dumb right there its not even funny
you must be kidding me. Athletic guards are people with a Athleticism. ATHLETICISM. Jump well, are faster, quicker and have better reflexes than others. If anything, Trevon is a slow point guard. Hes not quick, he doesnt jump well. He plays his role of a point guard who scores more than usuak and who can finish above average in the paint. This doesnt mean he goes above any one, he simply makes tough shots. He plays smart. If anyone sounds dumb, its you.
HEY IDIOT. RE-READ MY COMMENT. I said he can get into the paint. Whenever is ridiculous. You should start to watch basketball, then maybe you'll know what your talking about you ignorant, illiterate, and just plain stupid punk.
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steuber47 1 year ago
If you do some research, Blue is just not smart enough to go to Wisconsin
cstorks1 1 year ago
@cstorks1 so thats wht UW madison hates him for going to marquette? if tht was the truth then they wouldnt make such a big deal, instead they would be saying oh hes too dumb to come here so he went to marquette. Instead, they are jealous. which means he couldve gone anywhere, but picked the place where he felt he could develop more as a person and a player
Blaksword67 1 year ago
Wisconsin blows cack and Vander figured that out. Here's to him nutting all over Wisconsin next year. Sorry homos.
fall7standup8 1 year ago
ya but wisco still beats them head to head
hockeykns15 1 year ago
Your not gonna average 18 points a game if you dont have any athleticism
CyKoBlaQ 2 years ago
@CyKoBlaQ i nvr said he didnt have any athleticism. All bball players with the exception of ayers from UWM are athletic. You could even make an argument for ayers. What you were implying was that Hughes was exceptionally or a well above average athletic guard when he is maybe 5/10 on the athletic scale, maybe even a 6/10. Lets think with our brain here. Wisconsin is not known for being athletic, high scoring, or even a "exciting" bball team, although they have exciting games. Blue belongs at MU.
CraEggD320 2 years ago
So since Blue is an "Athletic" guard means he doesn't belong at UW? Being athletic only gets you so far, you cant say MU would develop Blue better then Wisconsin would, UW takes nobody's and teaches em how to beat All-Americans, developing an already athletic and talented guard the same way would make him GREAT.
CyKoBlaQ 2 years ago
your damn straight. you cant say that it would make him better since he would be playing in such a slow system. Vander Blues ultimate goal would be to play ball professionally. This would mean showing off his abilities, which are more suited towards a MU style of bball, not to mention he would be in the big east. You act as tho im chopping down UW, when im just saying what I believe is the best option for Vander Blue.
CraEggD320 2 years ago
Wisconsin and Marquette have the same amount of players in the NBA even with MU's superior "Athleticism" so obviously that has nothing to do with anything.. I guess the NBA has some standards and stays away from the athletic, but turnover frenzy, sloppy, players MU produces year and year out
CyKoBlaQ 2 years ago
@CyKoBlaQ ...First of all, MU has been in a large conference for how long compared to Wisconsin? Obviously players were drwn to UW over UM when it belonged to conference USA. This is about whether or not Blue belongs at UM, and the answer is yes, more than he would belong at UW. ALSO, former UW teams have been athleic, and have also been exciting like with Devin Harris and Tucker. I nvr said they were nvr good. I only brought up the NBA b4 bc u did 1st (nonsense). Go watch some more bball plz.
CraEggD320 2 years ago
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Seriously.. what is your point? You still have not gave a good reason why Blue is better off at MU, Blue is athletic, well so was/is Devin Harris, and wtf, I never brought up the NBA 1st, you did... "Teaching him how to play defense wont get him into the NBA" "Vander Blues ultimate goal would be to play ball professionally"
CyKoBlaQ 2 years ago
@CraEggD320 hey buddy its MU on UM
thisdayjustbelongedt 1 year ago
@CyKoBlaQ wisconsin doesnt produce any good pros tho. devin harris is their only above average pro
thisdayjustbelongedt 1 year ago
@thisdayjustbelongedt Well u dont see Wisconsin racking in top 25 talent either, Harris was like the only high caliber prospect Wisconsin has had in prolly the whole decade, Brian Butch was a overrated high school prospect, but other then those 2 not really anyone with NBA type of talent and skills
CyKoBlaQ 1 year ago
@CyKoBlaQ I guess your over rated high school prospect when you play in the All-American Game
Twinyy4 1 year ago
@Twinyy4 Ok.. and? can u compare him to the others in that All-American game? Lebron James, Luol Deng, Shannon Brown, Kendrick Perkins, Chris Paul, Leon Powe, Kris Humphries even in college? No! so like i stated he was overrated coming out of high school, 5 star top 10 in the nation? i dnt think so..
CyKoBlaQ 1 year ago
@thisdayjustbelongedt what about D.wade did you forget about him...
SaLiNuMbA3 1 year ago
@SaLiNuMbA3 not wisconsin the state, university of wisconsin-madison. the college.
thisdayjustbelongedt 1 year ago
@thisdayjustbelongedt Wesley Matthews went to madison memorial... I would definitely say he is an above average pro.
lgg27 1 year ago
@lgg27 ok everyone, for the last time. I was talking about THE UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN-MADISON. not madison memorial high school. not the state of wisconsin. the 4 year university whose mascot is the badgers. i dont understand what is so hard to understand about that
thisdayjustbelongedt 1 year ago
and as for ur last statement. If its so easy to take a athletic guard and make him great by teaching him the basics, fundementals, and more mental aspects of the game which you seem to think only UW can do effectively, why cant i take a great shooter and all around smart bball player, and just throw him in a gym and train him and mold him into a more athletic player? its not so easy, and UM would prob teach him the same exact things UW would, but they would be implemented into his game a lil dif
CraEggD320 2 years ago
fuck you marquette beter than that shithole u fuck!!!
oct777 1 year ago
that's basically a trevon hughs...im glad this kid is going to MU over madison.
Silverpatrone15 1 year ago
wow Maymon just left outta nowhere, sumthin with academics or what?? i belive blue is staying at Marquette no matter what according to his mama, but can he even change his mind after singing a LOI?
CyKoBlaQ 2 years ago
I'm also glad Vander decided on MU...only adds to the rivalry of MU and WI ... either way, this kid will likely be good no matter where he chooses to play (I say chooses because with Maymon gone from MU, the guy needs to look over his situation and make sure this is REALLY what he wants...Maymon played big role in decision, whether he admits it or not)
BuckyBeatWriter 2 years ago
Lastly, all these players with unbelievable potential go to Marquette with Dwayne Wade-esque dreams. They don't think about Devin Harris, Michael Finley, Marcus Landry, Alando Tucker. Wisconsin has more consistently produced solid NBA basketball players. That is the flaw in many recruit's thoughts.
jrulricson3 2 years ago
were talking about an upcoming program here. Marquette was formerly in Conference USA, and they have only been in the BEST conference in collegiate basketball since 2005. Please, if you honestly believe that the Big Ten is at the same level as the Big East, your just being ignorant. Recruits go to the Big East because if you can excel there, you can definitely excel in the NBA. Devin Harris and Michael Finely are your only 2 good Wisconsin players on you little list.
CraEggD320 2 years ago
Ok a few points...first off, wisconsin isnt just full of big white people...i'd rather have trevon hughes running my offense than any other player between the two teams. Secondly, playing in the big east is no longer an argument for better competition. Yes last year the big East was very good, but still the Big Ten had a pretty strong showing in the tournament.
jrulricson3 2 years ago
Continuing on your previous statement, if recruits had dreams of being like Michael Finely, Marcus Landry, and Alando Tucker, the world would be a sad place. Also, your statement that Wisconsin has more consistently produced NBA players is the biggest BS I have ever heard. In current years, Marquette has surpassed Wisconsin in current NBA players. Players like Diener, Novak, Mathews, Chris Crawford and Dwayne Wade. Big East > Big Ten. Everyone agrees. Players from the Big East excel in the NBA.
CraEggD320 2 years ago
all the waiting and speculating is over, blue verballed to MARQUETTE today. marquette will not lose blue, like uw managed to do after he verballed. marquette is going to be nasty in a couple years
muhoosier260 2 years ago 2
Marquette sucks ass, they get better athletes than the UW and still cant do shit with them. Shitty ass coaching. Vander Blue is an idiot for listening to Maymon and Mathews in making his decision rather then doin whats right for himself
CyKoBlaQ 2 years ago
whoa. must be a wisconsin fan. Big white ppl go to UW, athletic black ppl go to Marquette. And lets get something straight, while UW coaching is way better, Marquette still plays in the Big East, and does fairly well every year. Vander Blue to Marquette is the best choice.
CraEggD320 2 years ago
Wisconsin is where he needs to be if he wants to maximize his full potential
CyKoBlaQ 2 years ago
again. I just realized ur a complete idiot.
CraEggD320 2 years ago
Marquette never does shit, but i admit they have better talent and althleticism, but whats the point when you dont do shit with them. seriously...
they got about the same luck in the ncaa tournament as wisconsin, but who does wisconsin have? "Big white ppl"
CyKoBlaQ 2 years ago
so i dont understand what ur trying to say. U say that neither team does well in the tournament, but that he should go to UW because of better coaching? If you wanna maximize the potential of a player like Vander Blue, you send him to a team that fits his style. Wisc is a half court team, they dont run. Vander Blue would fit in much better with a running full court team like marquette. Besides, exposing him to the players in the big east will help "Maximize his potential" more than the big 10
CraEggD320 2 years ago
Just because you play a run offense in high school doesnt mean you cant have more success playing half court in college, and its been proven every year, stop marquette from getting fast breaks and they buckle. What i ment when i said maximize his potential is yea we know he can play marquette offense but UW teaches the best defense in the nation
CyKoBlaQ 2 years ago
Lost to UWGB and u say the teach the best deffense in the nation. Ill guarantee ur a wisc alumni. Im not an alumni to either Marquette nor Wisconsin. You may be saying all this, believing every word you say, only because you want whats best for UW. I want to see Vander Blue succeed. Teaching him how to play defense wont get him into the NBA or into Europe for that matter. Showing off his talent will, and Marquette will show it off more. He will play against top teams EVERY night in the Bid East.
CraEggD320 2 years ago
Im only 19, and defense wont get you into the NBA? ever heard of Bruce Bowen? a team is only as good as there coaches, and dont start with that big east is better then big ten bullshit, please..
CyKoBlaQ 2 years ago
LMAO. Bruce Bowen was also a fine offensive player as well, but was more well known in his latter years for his tough, physical defense. While Wisconsin may have an above average team defense, its individual players lack skill at this moment, both offensively and defensively. You act as though defense alone will get you into the NBA. NEWS FLASH. It WONT. Ill agree that Wisconsin has a better coach, but give Buzz time, he is still considered a young coach. Athletic guards belong at Marquette.
CraEggD320 2 years ago
athletic guards belong at MU? why?so they learn to jack up constant 3pt shots n turn ball over 5x a game? I know many students at MU and they ALL tell me they're about ready to throw in the towel on MU basketball n start rooting for WI. Sure, WI play can be slow and boring, but kids running system learn 2 b controlled, consistent n good decision makers. Trevon Hughes, WILD shot taker, but now poised, calm, consistent leader.
BuckyBeatWriter 2 years ago
He will nvr make it at the next level. And if ppl say they are ready to throw in the towel on MU, then they arent bball fans. This will be a rebuilding year for MU, and if people dont understand that, tell them to go watch Duke, NC or the plethora of Big East teams that compete and recruit well every year. For UW, I thought it woulld be 2, but it SEEMS they are playing consitantly, but mostly due to Bo Ryan. Athletic guards fit into MU's system better than UW. Hughes is NOT an athletic guard.
CraEggD320 2 years ago
Hughes is not an athletic guard? lol thats a joke, he didnt do much at the MU vs UW game but he really didnt have too with Luer dominating, watch his other games from this year and tell me he's not athletic, seriously you sound so dumb right there its not even funny
CyKoBlaQ 2 years ago
you must be kidding me. Athletic guards are people with a Athleticism. ATHLETICISM. Jump well, are faster, quicker and have better reflexes than others. If anything, Trevon is a slow point guard. Hes not quick, he doesnt jump well. He plays his role of a point guard who scores more than usuak and who can finish above average in the paint. This doesnt mean he goes above any one, he simply makes tough shots. He plays smart. If anyone sounds dumb, its you.
CraEggD320 2 years ago
Im sorry but your just an idiot, seriously.. Hughes can get in the paint whenever he feels like it, WHENEVER
CyKoBlaQ 2 years ago
HEY IDIOT. RE-READ MY COMMENT. I said he can get into the paint. Whenever is ridiculous. You should start to watch basketball, then maybe you'll know what your talking about you ignorant, illiterate, and just plain stupid punk.
CraEggD320 2 years ago
lol u mad? he can get into the paint whenever he wants, and can finish
CyKoBlaQ 2 years ago
@CraEggD320 Pretty much sums up Big Ten basketball in general, I'd say.
jiimayy 2 years ago
Must say I agree with all your comments. CyKo is just a sad Wisconsin fan who is trying to rip on MU. Let's see how the teams match up next year.
agiaco1 2 years ago
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CyKoBlaQ 2 years ago
az will get him to the nba baby
yungplex 2 years ago
He'll come to zona if he likes hot girls wearing very little clothing
spv2 2 years ago
AZ bound
djsabino08 2 years ago
jp is better
lberendsen1 2 years ago
Hope he ends up at Wisconsin
wihockey06 2 years ago
Hell naww
Vander Blue iz so beast tho
littledrummerboi3 2 years ago
He's not going to Wisconsin. He wants to go to a better basketball school.
mcx99 2 years ago
He just set up a vist to Westwood (UCLA).. If the visit goes well, I expect to see UCLA in his top 5..
bruinsfirst 2 years ago
He's the best nigga out there for the class of 2010
pimpedoutfbplaya 2 years ago