Rare "Che Gelida Manina", Pavarotti.

[dogfacesoldier]

BRAVO!

[islandofgrass]

Thank you, operavoices101, for this magnificent gift to us LP fans. This recording proves that the great Pavarotti voice was born, not made. Talent is talent is talent! Before he became the worldwide phenomenon, this 1963 audience who heard his celestial voice could barely contain themselves! I loved the murmurs at 3:30! Bravo!

[SchugOo]

I love his voice!!

[bigus]

i love this recording because its on of the only recordings you can hear of pavarotti being less that totally secure, this was before his breathing had solidified, and you can hear insecurities as a result, ie. "chi son" . it proves that technique is everything, a beautiful voice can live forever or be ruined by poor choices. there was no one more intelligent about his voice than pavarotti. this shows he was human and others can achieve his mastery thru hard work and careful choices. bravo!!

[tena2]

We he did not choose the right roles all his life, he did a lot of Heavy roles such as Calaf, Manrico and Radamés. his voice could have been kept in golden fresh state longer. Nevertheless hi was afterall very vocally gifted.

[bigus]

pavarotti was very intelligent about his voice and quit radames because he knew it was not going to be good for his voice, he was one of the few tenors who was smart and stayed true to his technique. his voice was always fresh his whole career as a result in my opinion. his only downfall was his weight and getting cancer.

[tena2]

Well, I cannot totally agree with you, a tenor does not need to try out a role to see if It fits with his voice, if you a lyric one you should already know the damage that causes heavy roles.... nevetheless I also think that he had his own tecnique, good for his own understanding of his particular voice. Cancer hit him right at the last of his career, he had a tremendous high register decline many years back then. I still thik he had once a brilliant vocal instrument to die for.

[bigus]

im not sure when he lost his high notes, because i have a video of the 3 tenors in paris and he is in his later years there, late 60s and he hits a very nice high C in that during one of the medleys, and its the purest note he sang, both free and easy. pavarotti never lost his high notes, he just didnt perform a high C in every concert but he performed high Bs very regularly and its only a half step. and this is in the 80s when he was in his 50s.his technique was as good as it gets for his fach.

[tena2]

In order to be able to judge what I mean we got to talk into the terms of high register. Luciano stopped hittingthe optionals high notes of the main arias such as Addio addio of Rigoletto, so on and so forth, hi did occationally sing a few loose high notes but this is not something to be impress of that much, the real way to show a good command of high register is singing always in key, this is the pure way to respect the composer, Luciano stopped this late in his 30sh.

[bigus]

well, i guess we will have to agree to disagree here, i know of no changes that pavarotti did that other tenor have not done for the sake of a performance or whatever. his career may have changed and the operas he performed, ie later he did boheme and tosca where earlier in his career he did many rigolettos etc, also in concert singing he may not have sung many Cs but that doesn't mean he lost them, his Bs were superb. he never lost his technique or his high notes even if he didnt sing themoften

[bigus]

also, the composer is dead and will never hear his work performed. tenors have been performing certain pieces a half step down forever in certain times. the point is to sound your best whenever you do it for the benefit of the audience, because the music is written to be enjoyed by the masses, not simply the composer. the fans make the singer not the composer. if a singer is feeling his best, then he sings it down a half step so what, a high note is a high note. no one cares if its a B or a C.

[tena2]

I dont agree at all with you, the composer is dead? so what, you are singing what he composed that´s what you got the atribute of Opera singer, you got to perfomance the opera, It mean, the sheets and the role that is written unless you are up to compose too which is not the case. I agree when u say tenors have always transposed down operas but here is when you are superior to others or just one ordinary one, I am sorry but I am on the said of the composer, you got to be fare.

[bigus]

i dont mean to say one should butcher the composer's master work and change it completely or do something stylistically out of the time period, but let me give you an example of what i am saying. lets say you buy expensive opera tickets to see a famous tenor sing la boheme but he is feeling terrible that night. he decides to stay true to the composer and sing in the original key but leaves out all the traditional high notes like at the end of o soave fanciulla. wouldnt you feel cheated?

[bigus]

or in another scenerio. he decides to stay true to the composer and sing in the original key and he wants to stay true to his fans and give them all the high notes they pay to hear and he sings them but he cracks and wobbles and then earns a bad rap from the critics. would that be smart of him for his career? the final option is to sing it down a half step and feel comfortable singing all the high notes and give a fabulous performance satisfying everyone and keep his good name. i say # 3 is best

[tena2]

This is why I consider Kraus the best tenor in history, because he did exactly what you understood from my comment, spot on, to decide to stay true to the composer and sing in the original key and stay to the fans who value a fully dedication to the pure art of bel canto giving the required high notes without cracking or wobbling at all, this is the resault of a true dedicated opera interpreter. The rest to me were just singers. Includind Luciano.

[bigus]

i used to be a big fan of kraus and still am to a certain extent, he is a fantastic artist. only kraus and gedda to my knowledge had as much longevity as pavarotti and kept their voices well into their old age and staying true to their technique. however neither had the beautiful voice luciano had. kraus is harsh on the ears because his tone is one dimensional, its painfully bright all the time. and he like everyone when they get old wobbled a bit but that was age, just like pav. i respect kraus

[tena2]

sorry for the spelling, just tried to type it all in fast as I run out of time today, Regards

[Sherriehoney]

Beautiful

[Nater389]

This recording is from 1961, not 1963. He debuted in 1961 subbing for Di Stefano.

[operavoices101]

Thank you for watching my video! However, I must correct you. There is absolutely NO, N-O, recording of Pavarotti's 1961 debut. PERIOD. If you are basing your comment from other opera lovers on this site's videos ( I will not name them), you are wrong. There never was or will be, a recording of Pav's 1961 debut. I really wish there was though. I'm sure it would have been beautiful. Thanks again, and check out my other videos. :)

[Nater389]

Wow, didn't realize. Mooorhe has many videos and recordings, and GermanOperaSinger said that the recording he posted was from 1961 debut...they are wrong? If I were you, I would get with them and confirm. So that you can be sure, and so that GOS might change the title to 1963 as it should be.

[operavoices101]

Thanks again for your comment. I was the very FIRST person to EVER upload that performance onto YouTube. Before German, before whoever else. I titled it as coming from '61', back in '07. I have recently learned, through research that where we all got it from, mislabeled the recording to market their site. The simple fact however, is that there is no recording from his '61 debut. I encourage other fans who have labeled this recording as '61, to do their own research and relabel their video.

[TSukopp]

@Nater389

[speedbag1]

An incredible voice and a most amazing man. The world misses you, Maestro

[corellipavarotti]

I remember my grandfather telling me, years later, of seeing Pavarotti in Dublin in 1963, before he was a huge star, where he appeared as the Duke in Rig. The story goes that it was in Dublin where Richard Bonning "found him" to tour with Southerland!!

[DIEG0G0D0Y]

lucciano...the best... i cry ....

[nick1729]

sublime from the first day!

[Alieaz]

I have goosebumps. You can feel his and the audiences nervous energy release after the high C. Its as if he used his nerves to his advantage - something the best all have in common.

[lpizzella]

gran debut, ya se perfilaba una leyenda, pero todavia tenia por delante el recuerdo aun vivo del gran tenor Bjorling y la figura en plenitud por 10 años mas de Corelli. Mas uego todos conocemos lo grande que fue Pav... y ya tampoco l oenemos....una gran perdida realmente de su voz bella y su sonrisa constante...

[tanotarx]

Sublime! ogni giorno ascolto il Maestro.

[TraVoiBelle]

It's real beauty

[delise54]

Thank you Maestro for all the beauty

[loveluciano1]

beautiful maestro pavarotti. he was very young here and was very good, but later he was a little more good because he aquired experience. but in spite of that he is wondeful. i love you luciano.

[QUESTANOTTE88]

You want something better?....non si puo...!!!.PAVAROTTI=THE KING!!

[cjondoran]

Wow, he sounds soo young here, beautiful

[sospello]

Thank you for this posting. Pavarotti is a marvel in lyric roles in the 1960's as well as in concert pieces like the Verdi Requiem "Ingemisco" (1967 with V. Karajan, I believe, is available several places on youtube)

[davidpegasso]

and I didn't need a fancy conservatory, you got a point on that!!! so that's how I am learning this aria, with Pavarotti

[operabitch77]

just remember to feel at all times the support throughout your body and dont be scared to let the voice flip and crack. its suppose to crack!! the voice will realize that and start to work for you rather than against you. good luck. your in good hands with pav!

[davidpegasso]

you have a point operabitch77, I am a blind student from Oklahoma City who studies for music and my voice teacher showed me this aria with Pavarotti, and that's how I am learnig it

[LETTIS79]

This is musically much more interesting, than many of his later interpretations. What an amazing performance... and what an high C!

[OPERATEMIS]

Maravillosa carrera, maravillosa voz, maravilloso artista!!!! sólo hay que descubrirse ante la realidad. ¡Vaya debut!

[grna88]

Does anyone know where you can buy a recording of this either on CD or preferably DVD? (I think it was filmed?) I can't find it anywhere

[turbofreddy]

Wow, you can hear he was trying to keep his sound in his mask. It even sounds nasal like Kraus sometimes! I've never heard such nasal sounds from Pavarotti! He sure found the balance! RIP King Pav

[memmey]

All these years I have dreamed of hearing the debut voice and now......what can I say, it was a wonderful as I dreamed it was. He had no idea how much he would be loved and respected.

[operavoices101]

amen...

[archiloque]

Fantastic document, thanks a lot operavoices101 !

[operavoices101]

thank you friend

[operabitch77]

this my friends is what a YOUN tenor should sound like. all these conservaories mills (ava, curtis, juilliard, etc..) are building shitty techniques and it has hurt this countries talent. THIS is the teacher you should be listening to. its a $3.99 cd at any cd store. dont waste your parents hard earned money for BULLSHIT educations at conservatories!!

[Kafkandinsky]

Most of the great tenors had only use conservatories for guidance, and mainly trained themselves. Pavarotti readed a lot of books about voice techniques for example. Placido Domingo only took 2 years of conservatory.

[specchiomagico]

pavarotti è pavarotti XD

[jagdverbande]

What an absolute rarity! Fantastic!!

[fishcake100]

Wow, this is actually priceless. You are a legend.

[operavoices101]

I'm glad you like it. Check out my other recordings of Pavarotti including "In un coupe... O Mimi" from his 1961 debut.

[suprtenor]

WOW! He totally NAILS that high C. Notice the audience murmur and gasp. That must have been some experience to hear that sound live.

[Redboy4]

Yep, sounds like some of the audience almost couldn't contain themselves to the end of the aria, and were hushed up by the others. Excellent post, operavoices101. Thank you.

[pbogdanovic]

Crazy...! Absolutely fantastic, you really feel they couldn't wait to the end for the bravados!