All the hate on the Hondas, then all the backing with the Evos, the MR2s, GTRs, etc. Keep in mind that you're comparing non-turbo cars (Hondas minus RDX) to all boosted cars stock for stock -_- Honda makes engines that rival the power of boosted cars with N/A power. Why you think turboed Hondas done right are so F'ing fast? I love all cars, well most.... but Honda does it right by building a hell of a N/A engine that can be boosted to hell and back.
@sofranko102 1. That's not what it means when it says "enter your text here." Video uploader error. 2. What MR-2? 3. No it wouldn't, an MR-2 is slower than shit. Toyota MR2 is what I'm assuming you mean. My Chevy Supercharged Cavalier can keep up no problem with the MR2. That's a 220hp POS cavalier. An NSX and a GTR would destroy my cars balls.
the skyline is a much faster car, fact. The reason nsx are good is because of their handling and acceleration. But the skylines has better acceleration and gearing.
@Guerilla333 Wrong. NSX-R better gearing and acceleration. Fact. Stock NSX-R and GTR is around the same power, but the nsx is 300kg lighter. Lighter = better acceleration. NSX-R stock has close gear ratios. Bye
@c312eal drivetrain and the better grip of mix hybrid converged handling on the r34+ means it is a better manoeuvrable machine in and out of corners. the nsx is good in straight from 0... but in relation to a skyline the nsx is of lower rating
@Guerilla333 The r32, r33, r34, and r35 4WD drivetrain without a doubt is amazing. It has always been the the GT-R's strength and it's weakness. It's strength is it gives the R34 great traction which do help on the corner exits. The weakness is it's weight. @1500kg the R34 is not light. What you stated wrong is that it is a better maneuverable in and out of corners compared to the NSX because of how heavy it is. Lighter cars = better cornering and better acceleration. Laws of physics.
@Guerilla333 Also what you also have wrong is that the NSX is not known for "straight from 0" It is known for it's amazing handling. MR layout means the car has DNA of a Formula 1 car. There's a reason why Formula 1 machines are MR layout. This is to allow the car to have better weight balance which allows for the BEST maneuverability. 1st aluminum chassis used in street cars means the NSX will be lighter than the GTR which means it'll brake later and maneuver better than the skyline.
@Guerilla333 The skylines have a good 4WD drivetrain BUT it does not make up for its 300kg handicap when compared to the NSX. With all the physics of racing, that I presented to you, the Skylines are out classed by the NSX.Since the NSX came out it in 90' it has beaten the R32, R33, R34 skylines. After dropping the skyline name 18 years later, nissan finally made a car to best the NSX. Nothing to be proud of, it's like comparing a 60 year old to a 20 in a foot race. 80s engineering to the 2000s
@c312eal they are of different race types/classes, its not as if you are comparing a car that is directly competing with a rwd low car. You know theres a reason why they use skylines in le mans and gt1 gt3 series racing, they have a far superior cornering capability trust me.
@Guerilla333 But they don't win Le Mans do they? Le Mans is not known for cornering. It's a race track with very long high speed straights. Fact is the R34 is 300kg heavier than the NSX. Heavy cars do not corner well even with 4WD. If the R34 was the same weight as the NSX yes would have a chance in the corners but it's not. R34 is steel and NSX is aluminum. NSX has lower of center of gravity which means once again gives it a HUGE advantage in the corners.
@Guerilla333 I hope you sure have a better understanding of the physics of racing. Weight reduction is always stressed in racing. The NSX being 300kg lighter is definitely something that the ATTESA system cannot cover as a weakness of the GTR. Lighter cars allow for better braking, better cornering, better acceleration, and less tire wear. If you look at F1, one of the key reasons why those cars are SO fast is because they are SO light. 4WD didn't have too much success in F1 (pinnacle of racing)
@c312eal you have the corners and the straights. the reason f1 cars go fast is because of their power to weight ratio and the reason they are able to go so fast round the corners is because of the grip and how low they are to the floor. no car can compare to formula 1 cars because they are designed purely for maximum potential speed.
nsx is lighter of course, yet its not got a hybrid handling front wheel and rear wheel drivetrain, the skylines take corners better fact.
@Guerilla333 If theres one thing the NSX is known to be the best at, is the cornering speed. Since it's lighter than it will allow the NSX to brake later, and exit. I see you you understand that why F1 cars are fast. Power to weight ratio NSX > GTR. F1 cars are light therefore they brake late, corner fast. They exit fast with high power to weight ratio. NSX is lighter than GTR, just like how F1 cars are light.NSX lower to ground than GTR. Better center of gravity = better cornering. Fact.
@c312eal obviously but the even with good p2w ratio the nsx hasnt the grip capabilities the r34s have, they have hybrid tech and can intiate and exit corners at a greater g. the r34s and gtrs have better wheel drive and despite the fact of p2w ratio they exit corners far more effectively.
@Guerilla333 Even with the 4WD, the r34s are 300kg heavier. 300kg is A LOT. That 300kg will cripple the R34s in the corners and at the corner exits against the GT-R. Drivetrain or not, GT-R still has to obey the rules of physics. Like you said what makes F1 cars fast is P2W ratio. Another thing is the NSX has A LOT lower center of gravity, with a MR layout that puts all the weight of the car in the middle compared to the front heavy R34. This means the NSX will throw A LOT of Gs too.
Watch this video, NSX with ITBs vs R33 and R34. Notice how the R34 pulls away on the straights, because of 4WD acceleration advantage, but once the corners comes the NSX will catch up. Keiichi "Drift King" Tsuchiya himself says the NSX is the King of JDM with tons of potential. He used a NSX to set a time record on his home touge in Usui, which is FULL of corners with barely any straights.
@c312eal 4wd cars will not have acceleration advantages on straights they will to the contrary have disadvantages on straights cause they are loosing power having to send it to 4 wheels instead of 2, only reason a skyline will pull away from an nsx on straights is cause it´s boosted to shit and has a huge power advantage. But correct in that the NSX will almost always have an advantage in corners. And Keiichi is correct in stating the NSX as the king of JDM.
@c312eal In terms of tuning spec that so called 700bhp nsx is nothing special considering the highest skylines are now borderline 1000bhp. And for your information that skyline is an R33 not R32. You know theres a reason why the skyline was chosen for Fast n Furious.
The NSXs at stock and tuning level are outmatched by skylines. You are incorrect about most of that. The nsx handles better, good power to weight ratio, however the Skyline has better accel and velocity especially exiting turns
@Guerilla333 In terms of tuning spec a 700bhp dry sump NSX is is nothing special...? You're kidding right? Clearly you know nothing bout cars if you refer to the Fast n Furious. Real auto enthusiasts know that movie is all just make believe. NSX was the king of JDMs until the R35 came out. NSX is 300kg lighter than the Skylines and you say they have better acceleration @ stock? NSX also uses close gearing ratio, closer gears than the Skylines. Stock NSX-R > R34 GTR in 1/4 mile. This is proven.
@Guerilla333 Btw that's not a skyline. The GT-R no longer carry the skyline name. And I did state that the NSX was king of jdm until the r35 came. And if you want to compare a car design from 2008 (R35) to the NSX which was released in 1990, that just says it took 18 years for nissan to come out with a car to beat the NSX. BTW that race was staged. The driver handling the NSX was horrible.
@Guerilla333 Since you dont seem how to analyze cars. I shall enlighten you and tell you why that video is staged and why that driver sucks. R35 weighs 1700+kg while the spoon NSX weighs 1200+kg. That's around 500kg difference. Horsepower was 400hp (NSX) to 500hp (R35). R35 is 4WD so yes it's good at acceleration but all that weight is dragging it down. 100hp does NOT make up for 500kg of weight difference. So was the R35 rocket corner exit pass on the NSX legit? Unlikely.
@Guerilla333 #2 It is a established rules in physics that the lighter cars handle/corner better. They also brake later and better than heavier cars which affect the corner speeds of a car. The Spoon NSX once again being 500kg lighter should win over mine's GTR in that department. This would be a better video to compare the true potential of the 2 cars. /watch?v=WBvWTb6eaJU
MCR R35. Driver -> Keiichi "Drift King" Tsuchiya.
This is the same Spoon NSX that was in your video.
@Guerilla333 It may beath the NSX at stock level, but as a whole the NSX is a better car. It is easier to drive, incredible engine and it has perfect weight distribution. Not even mentioning the fact it was designed by Ayerton.
nsx wil always beet skylines!!!! besides that was a gtr going up agenst a standard stock nsx put a type s and we have a half second difrence favoring teh nsx
well the gtr is the king... the r35 would take the nsx anytime... but i dont kno a good driver a good gtr, would beat an nsx anytime in my eye! my r32 gtr i have beaten vipers, corvettes, any ricer honda, any ricer acura, it will beat anything on the road...
I have an nsx in my neighbor hood somewhere, if i find him ill record a race! So keep checking out my channel! infact you should subscribe actuelly...
I remember reading somewhere from a Honda engineer or Honda himself. Their goal was to master N/A efficient instead of relying on forced induction like other companies (Nissan) I know what you mean cause Honda engines stock are small so they dont make much power so your answer was for honda to add turbos. I rather see Honda come out with a V8 or a V10 VTEC. That would be the real answer. Imagine a 5.0L V10 V-TEC engine @ 9000rpm N/A. The scream of that engine at redline.
There's nothing wrong with relying on forced induction, that's like saying you can't rely on air. Its the delicate balance between air and fuel that makes turbocharging possible, that was just honda's hubris for defeat. With the exception of maybe the NSX, there isn't a single honda that can compete against a skyline/supra/rx7. Turbocharging isn't cheap, it's fair game. It's like saying that using race gas or lightweight rims are a distasteful approach to making a car fast.
@daddyjunkie When car companies cant make a high performance n/a engine that has a high displacement/power ratio they usually rely on some sort of forced induction. Thats what I'm trying to say. And I can tell you its ALOT harder to tune an engine to get power from an engine. And lets face. A turbo engine vs a N/A engine. Both with the same power. Who would racers prefer? I would go with the N/A becuase of the instant power and great throttle response it provides.
@ReidHarris7 Sorry buddy, The NSX chassis is an Legend. Approved by the greatest driver in History. Ayrton Senna. If Senna wanted a car, it wouldn't have been a car with a RB26DETT, but a car with a C30A or a C32B. LOL
We all know the NSX was the king of JDM until the R35 and now the LFA. But think of how long the NSX has been holding this title? Been 20 years almost. Dont forget the NSX was designed in the 80s and was released during the time of the R32
@c312eal GTR is an actual race/tuner aha and yeah their aint no way the nsx would ever when in a race with any gtr... even the r32 GTS-T would win!! THUMBS UP
@ReidHarris7 LOL Maybe in america becuase no one there knows how to tune a high performance N/A engine. But in Japan, home of JDM tuning, NSX's rape GTR's all day on track. GTR's don't even come close in a race with a NSX. In fact its rumoured that when a GT-R races an NSX, the GT-R would not brake in time for a corner, and will slide off the race track and crash. Killing the driver. (:
@ReidHarris7 ROFL NSX = ricer bucket. I don't think 1st aluminum chassis and 1st everyday drivable super car = ricer bucket. On the other hand skyline's can't corner for shit and i've seen too man rice skylines. Do you research bro, on track NSX smashes the skylines, stock OR modified. Stock R34 GTR loses to the NSX-R on the 1/4 mile too. Every Japanese car journalist say that the NSX is king, beating out the skylines and a smart guy like you just come in here saying"GTR is an actual race/tuner"
@TheHayasa that opinion , nsx has factual numbers backing it up its top speeds higer it has a higer rpm, lower weight beter weight distrebution etc etc. the skylines a beautful car but they dint naME TEH NSX A FERARI KILLER FOR NOTHING!
@c312eal MY UNCLE OWN ONE AND HES LET ME DRIVE IT, TS A MASTER PEICE HE HAS A TYPE 0 HE GOT FROM JAPAN THAT THINGS AMAZING ITS A SHAME THEY CUT IT OFF , THE NEW NSX LOOKS LIEK TRASH
@ThreeDaysOfDan I know right? Real car enthusiast know what the NSX is about. The feel of it is just awesome. It's a work of art. I mean the McLaren F1 was inspired by the NSX. I wonder what super cars the skylines inspired?
@c312eal yea when i had granturismo as a kid you knew that car was great , it felt so smooth in a game that makes teh cars feel stiff the nsx is a legend , il ove skylines but nsx in my opinion is the most wel rounded car out there
@BIHxJDMxSUPRA You really want to compare the R35 to the NSX? the NSX design was 18 years older than the r35. If you wanna compare the NSX compare it to the GTR, compare the R32 which is of the same time as the NSX. Watch the NSX smash it.
@BIHxJDMxSUPRA you do know you're comparing the NSX which was designed in the late 80s to the R35 which was designed in the 2000s? LOL and if you think it can't oh yes it can. Just needs to re-modernized a bit. R35 has a 3.6L V6 with Twin Turbos. NSX has a 3.2L V6L and lets say we add Twin turbos to that, just to make it even (: You ever seen the video of the R35 vs the Spoon NSX vs the Rx7 with semi slicks? the NSX beating the R35 and Tsuchiya was in the R35 too.
@BIHxJDMxSUPRA and the age of the design does matter. It's like who'll win in a 100m dash better a runner thats 60 years old and a runner thats in his prime 20s.
@BIHxJDMxSUPRA NSX got more potential therefore faster. But if you're talking about stock vs stock. Well yeah I would expect Nissan's 2008 flag ship to beat Honda's 1990 flag ship LOL BTW LFA faster than all.
@c312eal A LFA is ncie and all But really who cares its 400k isnt it a NSX new is around 75k Put in 325k worth of shit and NSX will take off like a rocket so where are you getting at?
@c312eal They are both 90s era cars, therefore its relevant. At tuning spec, the Skyline still beats the NSX, the skyline is more faster on straights and exiting corners, even at stock it has faster acceleration. Both cars are used in the LE MANS 24 Hour.
@Guerilla333 I don't know where you get the idea that the R32 is faster than the NSX. The NSX beats R34's in 1/4 mile. The NSX also beat the R32 on the Nurburgring. In terms of tuning spec, the fastest North American Time Attack car is a 700hp NSX. The NSX beats R32 on straights, beats it in braking, beats it in handling, beats it in corner stability, and since the skyline is a lot heavier, the NSX beats it on corner exits. Skyline vs NSX. NSX wins. Skyline GTR vs NSX-R. NSX-R wins.
@daddyjunkie Second is honda wasn't defeated... Infact if Honda went turbo they're prolly destroy ever car company in terms of power out there. Look at the 80s when F1 was still turbo. Honda dominated with their turbo engines SO we all know Honda has the technology to turbo their cars. But Honda believes theres a lot of things wrong with turbo charging. Fuel consumption and reliability issues.
@daddyjunkie Forced induction is like this. Picture 2 runners. One naturally breath or naturally aspirated. He breaths in the air of the environment. Now if the air outside had low pressure or didnt hold enough oxygen then it would affect his performance. The 2nd runner breaths in compressed air that is filled with oxygen. We all know our body works better and our brain too when we get lots of oxygen. These 2 runners race each other. Is it fair? Forced Induction vs. Natural.
@wazii6 Turbo = lag and lowers the reliability and life of engine. N/A = ultimate throttle response and engine response. Nissan should get with the program. Anyone can make power by slapping on a turbo. But not everyone get alot of power from a N/A engine. The NSX has a 290hp n/a engine. It's the world's first everyday super car. I has many break through technologies that paved the way for super cars today. The McLaren F1 was based of the NSX. Get with the program.
yea but the degree of lag is dependent of a number of factors such as the type motor, type of turbo and how well its tuned. For some cars, like the supra or skyline, lag isn't an issue because the ends justify the means. True that honda's vtec system allows for uncompromising, raw power at one shot but at the end of the day if you want to make the most of a car, turbo is the way to go. And wrong, you can't just slap a turbo on anything, different cars yield different results.
@daddyjunkie You said there isn't a single honda that can compete against a skyline/supra/rx7. Well from factory cars. There wasn't a single car in the japanese until the R35,that could compete with the NSX. But hey the NSX is a 20 year old design. Designed in the late 80s. Is it even fair to compare it to the R33 or R34s? The NSX is a race car. A super responsive high revving N/A engine, lightweight chassis, MR layout. I think out of all the car companies. Honda knows best how to make a racecar
@daddyjunkie Please try to remember. Great engine tuners take great pride when they are able to produce a HIGH displacement/power ratio N/A engine. Because its something really hard to achieve. Alot harder than forced induction tuning. A good example of this is ferrari (: Most of their cars are N/A are you going to say they defeated also?
@wazii6 And btw about the program. Most super car companies make their car N/A engines. High revving N/A engine that out puts somewhere around 100hp per 1L.
@wazii6 Having a turbo on a NSX destroys what Honda was trying to achieve with the car. NSX = F1 handling, F1 engine and throttle response, High revving N/A engine. It's already badass enough and remember the NSX design is a 20 year old design. The R34 is an 10 year design. The NSX was a car way ahead of its time. Honda doesn't really want to use turbo. If honda went turbo for power, it would dominate all. Just like in Formula 1 when they still used turbo.
@c312eal i give you respect cuase you know your facts ok so we will leave the all motor super car alone but it would be nice to see a stock built honda turbo car due to the fact that manny honda fans like myself enjoy turbos and after driving stock turbo cars i fell in love with the idea cuase they have a turbo that is perfect for the engine so i can worry about other adds instead of turbo which are painfull in tuneing and building proces
@c312eal like i want honda or any car company to make the most reliable and resposive turbo are u see puting a turbo on a car isnt as easy as most think anyone can slap a turbo and put 3 pounds of boost but it comes to serious boost thats a defrnt story its a big difrance when you have a a honda or any car enginner put in the setup to install serious performance and turbos tune to perfection aculy very little to flawess driving experance so honda should focus on stock turbo
@wazii6 uhhh NO, honda would never go turbo. Mastering N/A efficient is what Honda is all about. Honda is known for its famous N/A engines. They pump out more than 100hp/L. You make it sound like Turbos are everything. Engineering a high performance N/A engine is harder than engineering a turbo engine. Honda is respected in the international racing community because of they can make N/A engines like ferrari and bmw. Whats not serious about N/A engines?
@c312eal N/A engines give a different type of serious performance. The instant engine response, the moment you step on the throttle full power comes on, the high revving engine, the high compression ratios. True if honda went turbo they would destroy companies like nissan in terms of power. But its not what honda is looking for, they want to master N/A efficient and thats why they came up with VTEC. If you think of it VTEC is kinda like turbo LOL Once you hit VTEC its like the turbo lag is gone
@eludethis While skylines are not covered in green scales and don't swim so well (although I'm not sure how well lizards can swim now that you mention it), I'm pretty sure Godzilla is an Australian nick name for Skyline. The r32 won like every race it entered in Australia so was called godzilla, a monster from japan.
All the hate on the Hondas, then all the backing with the Evos, the MR2s, GTRs, etc. Keep in mind that you're comparing non-turbo cars (Hondas minus RDX) to all boosted cars stock for stock -_- Honda makes engines that rival the power of boosted cars with N/A power. Why you think turboed Hondas done right are so F'ing fast? I love all cars, well most.... but Honda does it right by building a hell of a N/A engine that can be boosted to hell and back.
ReptilianLava 2 months ago 2
NSX= very underrated car
chuckmekere 3 months ago
All I gotta say to the nsx noobs. Evo VIII FQ 400... King of JDM...
ErnyyScene 3 months ago
@sofranko102
You're either a troll or a retard.
LeechHat 5 months ago
@sofranko102 1. That's not what it means when it says "enter your text here." Video uploader error. 2. What MR-2? 3. No it wouldn't, an MR-2 is slower than shit. Toyota MR2 is what I'm assuming you mean. My Chevy Supercharged Cavalier can keep up no problem with the MR2. That's a 220hp POS cavalier. An NSX and a GTR would destroy my cars balls.
AngrySackBoy 5 months ago
I stared at this nsx a bit and found it was a TARGA. Watch this video I found where the GT-R is tested against a standard NSX COUPE.
/watch?v=1uJHBGv8g2c
chuckmekere 9 months ago
Nice calculator camera.
LegitImports21 10 months ago
NSX PWNS NEEE-SAN!
poppinfresh101 10 months ago
the skyline is a much faster car, fact. The reason nsx are good is because of their handling and acceleration. But the skylines has better acceleration and gearing.
Guerilla333 1 year ago
@Guerilla333 Fact the NSX was the fastest car in Japan before the R35 Came out. Now its the LFA that holds the title
VNPrince 1 year ago
@Guerilla333 Wrong. NSX-R better gearing and acceleration. Fact. Stock NSX-R and GTR is around the same power, but the nsx is 300kg lighter. Lighter = better acceleration. NSX-R stock has close gear ratios. Bye
c312eal 10 months ago
@c312eal drivetrain and the better grip of mix hybrid converged handling on the r34+ means it is a better manoeuvrable machine in and out of corners. the nsx is good in straight from 0... but in relation to a skyline the nsx is of lower rating
Guerilla333 10 months ago
@Guerilla333 The r32, r33, r34, and r35 4WD drivetrain without a doubt is amazing. It has always been the the GT-R's strength and it's weakness. It's strength is it gives the R34 great traction which do help on the corner exits. The weakness is it's weight. @1500kg the R34 is not light. What you stated wrong is that it is a better maneuverable in and out of corners compared to the NSX because of how heavy it is. Lighter cars = better cornering and better acceleration. Laws of physics.
c312eal 10 months ago
@Guerilla333 Also what you also have wrong is that the NSX is not known for "straight from 0" It is known for it's amazing handling. MR layout means the car has DNA of a Formula 1 car. There's a reason why Formula 1 machines are MR layout. This is to allow the car to have better weight balance which allows for the BEST maneuverability. 1st aluminum chassis used in street cars means the NSX will be lighter than the GTR which means it'll brake later and maneuver better than the skyline.
c312eal 10 months ago
@Guerilla333 The skylines have a good 4WD drivetrain BUT it does not make up for its 300kg handicap when compared to the NSX. With all the physics of racing, that I presented to you, the Skylines are out classed by the NSX.Since the NSX came out it in 90' it has beaten the R32, R33, R34 skylines. After dropping the skyline name 18 years later, nissan finally made a car to best the NSX. Nothing to be proud of, it's like comparing a 60 year old to a 20 in a foot race. 80s engineering to the 2000s
c312eal 10 months ago
@c312eal they are of different race types/classes, its not as if you are comparing a car that is directly competing with a rwd low car. You know theres a reason why they use skylines in le mans and gt1 gt3 series racing, they have a far superior cornering capability trust me.
Guerilla333 10 months ago
@Guerilla333 But they don't win Le Mans do they? Le Mans is not known for cornering. It's a race track with very long high speed straights. Fact is the R34 is 300kg heavier than the NSX. Heavy cars do not corner well even with 4WD. If the R34 was the same weight as the NSX yes would have a chance in the corners but it's not. R34 is steel and NSX is aluminum. NSX has lower of center of gravity which means once again gives it a HUGE advantage in the corners.
c312eal 10 months ago
@Guerilla333 I hope you sure have a better understanding of the physics of racing. Weight reduction is always stressed in racing. The NSX being 300kg lighter is definitely something that the ATTESA system cannot cover as a weakness of the GTR. Lighter cars allow for better braking, better cornering, better acceleration, and less tire wear. If you look at F1, one of the key reasons why those cars are SO fast is because they are SO light. 4WD didn't have too much success in F1 (pinnacle of racing)
c312eal 10 months ago
@c312eal you have the corners and the straights. the reason f1 cars go fast is because of their power to weight ratio and the reason they are able to go so fast round the corners is because of the grip and how low they are to the floor. no car can compare to formula 1 cars because they are designed purely for maximum potential speed.
nsx is lighter of course, yet its not got a hybrid handling front wheel and rear wheel drivetrain, the skylines take corners better fact.
Guerilla333 10 months ago
@Guerilla333 If theres one thing the NSX is known to be the best at, is the cornering speed. Since it's lighter than it will allow the NSX to brake later, and exit. I see you you understand that why F1 cars are fast. Power to weight ratio NSX > GTR. F1 cars are light therefore they brake late, corner fast. They exit fast with high power to weight ratio. NSX is lighter than GTR, just like how F1 cars are light.NSX lower to ground than GTR. Better center of gravity = better cornering. Fact.
c312eal 10 months ago
@c312eal obviously but the even with good p2w ratio the nsx hasnt the grip capabilities the r34s have, they have hybrid tech and can intiate and exit corners at a greater g. the r34s and gtrs have better wheel drive and despite the fact of p2w ratio they exit corners far more effectively.
Guerilla333 10 months ago
@Guerilla333 Even with the 4WD, the r34s are 300kg heavier. 300kg is A LOT. That 300kg will cripple the R34s in the corners and at the corner exits against the GT-R. Drivetrain or not, GT-R still has to obey the rules of physics. Like you said what makes F1 cars fast is P2W ratio. Another thing is the NSX has A LOT lower center of gravity, with a MR layout that puts all the weight of the car in the middle compared to the front heavy R34. This means the NSX will throw A LOT of Gs too.
c312eal 10 months ago
@Guerilla333 /watch?v=P1Z7ZlAQs5o&playnext=1&list=PLBA2D0BB8AA041A8D
Watch this video, NSX with ITBs vs R33 and R34. Notice how the R34 pulls away on the straights, because of 4WD acceleration advantage, but once the corners comes the NSX will catch up. Keiichi "Drift King" Tsuchiya himself says the NSX is the King of JDM with tons of potential. He used a NSX to set a time record on his home touge in Usui, which is FULL of corners with barely any straights.
c312eal 10 months ago
@c312eal 4wd cars will not have acceleration advantages on straights they will to the contrary have disadvantages on straights cause they are loosing power having to send it to 4 wheels instead of 2, only reason a skyline will pull away from an nsx on straights is cause it´s boosted to shit and has a huge power advantage. But correct in that the NSX will almost always have an advantage in corners. And Keiichi is correct in stating the NSX as the king of JDM.
h1coupe 1 month ago 2
@c312eal In terms of tuning spec that so called 700bhp nsx is nothing special considering the highest skylines are now borderline 1000bhp. And for your information that skyline is an R33 not R32. You know theres a reason why the skyline was chosen for Fast n Furious.
The NSXs at stock and tuning level are outmatched by skylines. You are incorrect about most of that. The nsx handles better, good power to weight ratio, however the Skyline has better accel and velocity especially exiting turns
Guerilla333 1 year ago
@Guerilla333 In terms of tuning spec a 700bhp dry sump NSX is is nothing special...? You're kidding right? Clearly you know nothing bout cars if you refer to the Fast n Furious. Real auto enthusiasts know that movie is all just make believe. NSX was the king of JDMs until the R35 came out. NSX is 300kg lighter than the Skylines and you say they have better acceleration @ stock? NSX also uses close gearing ratio, closer gears than the Skylines. Stock NSX-R > R34 GTR in 1/4 mile. This is proven.
c312eal 10 months ago
@c312eal watch this /watch?v=aQrqHvmUkvg&NR=1&feature=fvwp
Guerilla333 10 months ago
@Guerilla333 Btw that's not a skyline. The GT-R no longer carry the skyline name. And I did state that the NSX was king of jdm until the r35 came. And if you want to compare a car design from 2008 (R35) to the NSX which was released in 1990, that just says it took 18 years for nissan to come out with a car to beat the NSX. BTW that race was staged. The driver handling the NSX was horrible.
c312eal 10 months ago
@Guerilla333 Since you dont seem how to analyze cars. I shall enlighten you and tell you why that video is staged and why that driver sucks. R35 weighs 1700+kg while the spoon NSX weighs 1200+kg. That's around 500kg difference. Horsepower was 400hp (NSX) to 500hp (R35). R35 is 4WD so yes it's good at acceleration but all that weight is dragging it down. 100hp does NOT make up for 500kg of weight difference. So was the R35 rocket corner exit pass on the NSX legit? Unlikely.
c312eal 10 months ago
@Guerilla333 #2 It is a established rules in physics that the lighter cars handle/corner better. They also brake later and better than heavier cars which affect the corner speeds of a car. The Spoon NSX once again being 500kg lighter should win over mine's GTR in that department. This would be a better video to compare the true potential of the 2 cars. /watch?v=WBvWTb6eaJU
MCR R35. Driver -> Keiichi "Drift King" Tsuchiya.
This is the same Spoon NSX that was in your video.
c312eal 10 months ago
@Guerilla333 the cars in this video are claerly around stock level... not 700bhp... watch this /watch?v=aQrqHvmUkvg&NR=1&feature=fvwp
Guerilla333 10 months ago
@Guerilla333 It may beath the NSX at stock level, but as a whole the NSX is a better car. It is easier to drive, incredible engine and it has perfect weight distribution. Not even mentioning the fact it was designed by Ayerton.
092Dice 1 year ago
spoon <<<<J's
MasterEvoPro 1 year ago
NSX much more balanced
ltlocus 1 year ago
nissan skyline ftw !!
klikopmij 1 year ago
nsx wil always beet skylines!!!! besides that was a gtr going up agenst a standard stock nsx put a type s and we have a half second difrence favoring teh nsx
ThreeDaysOfDan 1 year ago
i bet both of you don't have either a Skyline or an NSX...
dod3334 1 year ago
well the gtr is the king... the r35 would take the nsx anytime... but i dont kno a good driver a good gtr, would beat an nsx anytime in my eye! my r32 gtr i have beaten vipers, corvettes, any ricer honda, any ricer acura, it will beat anything on the road...
I have an nsx in my neighbor hood somewhere, if i find him ill record a race! So keep checking out my channel! infact you should subscribe actuelly...
ReidHarris7 1 year ago
I remember reading somewhere from a Honda engineer or Honda himself. Their goal was to master N/A efficient instead of relying on forced induction like other companies (Nissan) I know what you mean cause Honda engines stock are small so they dont make much power so your answer was for honda to add turbos. I rather see Honda come out with a V8 or a V10 VTEC. That would be the real answer. Imagine a 5.0L V10 V-TEC engine @ 9000rpm N/A. The scream of that engine at redline.
c312eal 1 year ago
@c312eal
There's nothing wrong with relying on forced induction, that's like saying you can't rely on air. Its the delicate balance between air and fuel that makes turbocharging possible, that was just honda's hubris for defeat. With the exception of maybe the NSX, there isn't a single honda that can compete against a skyline/supra/rx7. Turbocharging isn't cheap, it's fair game. It's like saying that using race gas or lightweight rims are a distasteful approach to making a car fast.
daddyjunkie 1 year ago
@daddyjunkie When car companies cant make a high performance n/a engine that has a high displacement/power ratio they usually rely on some sort of forced induction. Thats what I'm trying to say. And I can tell you its ALOT harder to tune an engine to get power from an engine. And lets face. A turbo engine vs a N/A engine. Both with the same power. Who would racers prefer? I would go with the N/A becuase of the instant power and great throttle response it provides.
c312eal 1 year ago
@c312eal sorry buddy the RB26dett is a legend
ReidHarris7 1 year ago 2
@ReidHarris7 Sorry buddy, The NSX chassis is an Legend. Approved by the greatest driver in History. Ayrton Senna. If Senna wanted a car, it wouldn't have been a car with a RB26DETT, but a car with a C30A or a C32B. LOL
We all know the NSX was the king of JDM until the R35 and now the LFA. But think of how long the NSX has been holding this title? Been 20 years almost. Dont forget the NSX was designed in the 80s and was released during the time of the R32
c312eal 1 year ago
@c312eal GTR is an actual race/tuner aha and yeah their aint no way the nsx would ever when in a race with any gtr... even the r32 GTS-T would win!! THUMBS UP
ReidHarris7 1 year ago
@ReidHarris7 LOL Maybe in america becuase no one there knows how to tune a high performance N/A engine. But in Japan, home of JDM tuning, NSX's rape GTR's all day on track. GTR's don't even come close in a race with a NSX. In fact its rumoured that when a GT-R races an NSX, the GT-R would not brake in time for a corner, and will slide off the race track and crash. Killing the driver. (:
c312eal 1 year ago
@c312eal well no... The skyline GTR's will rape the nsx up the muffler... nsx =ricer bucket...... lol how long is this going to go on for?
ReidHarris7 1 year ago
@ReidHarris7 ROFL NSX = ricer bucket. I don't think 1st aluminum chassis and 1st everyday drivable super car = ricer bucket. On the other hand skyline's can't corner for shit and i've seen too man rice skylines. Do you research bro, on track NSX smashes the skylines, stock OR modified. Stock R34 GTR loses to the NSX-R on the 1/4 mile too. Every Japanese car journalist say that the NSX is king, beating out the skylines and a smart guy like you just come in here saying"GTR is an actual race/tuner"
c312eal 1 year ago
@c312eal the fact is skyline>nsx
TheHayasa 1 year ago
@TheHayasa fact, NSX is the King of JDM and the skylines are no where near it.
c312eal 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@c312eal fact. You are wrong
TheHayasa 1 year ago
@TheHayasa that opinion , nsx has factual numbers backing it up its top speeds higer it has a higer rpm, lower weight beter weight distrebution etc etc. the skylines a beautful car but they dint naME TEH NSX A FERARI KILLER FOR NOTHING!
ThreeDaysOfDan 1 year ago
@c312eal MY UNCLE OWN ONE AND HES LET ME DRIVE IT, TS A MASTER PEICE HE HAS A TYPE 0 HE GOT FROM JAPAN THAT THINGS AMAZING ITS A SHAME THEY CUT IT OFF , THE NEW NSX LOOKS LIEK TRASH
ThreeDaysOfDan 1 year ago
@ThreeDaysOfDan I know right? Real car enthusiast know what the NSX is about. The feel of it is just awesome. It's a work of art. I mean the McLaren F1 was inspired by the NSX. I wonder what super cars the skylines inspired?
c312eal 1 year ago
@c312eal yea when i had granturismo as a kid you knew that car was great , it felt so smooth in a game that makes teh cars feel stiff the nsx is a legend , il ove skylines but nsx in my opinion is the most wel rounded car out there
ThreeDaysOfDan 1 year ago
@c312eal i wonder if the nsx could do wat the gtr did in nurgburing
BIHxJDMxSUPRA 1 year ago
@BIHxJDMxSUPRA You really want to compare the R35 to the NSX? the NSX design was 18 years older than the r35. If you wanna compare the NSX compare it to the GTR, compare the R32 which is of the same time as the NSX. Watch the NSX smash it.
c312eal 1 year ago
@c312eal i wasnt talkn about how old the designs is all im sayin is it cant beat the r35
BIHxJDMxSUPRA 1 year ago
@BIHxJDMxSUPRA you do know you're comparing the NSX which was designed in the late 80s to the R35 which was designed in the 2000s? LOL and if you think it can't oh yes it can. Just needs to re-modernized a bit. R35 has a 3.6L V6 with Twin Turbos. NSX has a 3.2L V6L and lets say we add Twin turbos to that, just to make it even (: You ever seen the video of the R35 vs the Spoon NSX vs the Rx7 with semi slicks? the NSX beating the R35 and Tsuchiya was in the R35 too.
c312eal 1 year ago
@c312eal 3.8L*
delfartel 1 year ago
@BIHxJDMxSUPRA and the age of the design does matter. It's like who'll win in a 100m dash better a runner thats 60 years old and a runner thats in his prime 20s.
c312eal 1 year ago
@c312eal yes i know and again im not talkin about design all im sayin is r35 is faster then nsx
BIHxJDMxSUPRA 1 year ago
@BIHxJDMxSUPRA NSX got more potential therefore faster. But if you're talking about stock vs stock. Well yeah I would expect Nissan's 2008 flag ship to beat Honda's 1990 flag ship LOL BTW LFA faster than all.
c312eal 1 year ago
@c312eal A LFA is ncie and all But really who cares its 400k isnt it a NSX new is around 75k Put in 325k worth of shit and NSX will take off like a rocket so where are you getting at?
oAToMiCx 1 year ago
@oAToMiCx True that, and btw just to let you know. Imma NSX fan. So you don't need to tell me how much potential it's got (:
c312eal 1 year ago
@c312eal They are both 90s era cars, therefore its relevant. At tuning spec, the Skyline still beats the NSX, the skyline is more faster on straights and exiting corners, even at stock it has faster acceleration. Both cars are used in the LE MANS 24 Hour.
Guerilla333 1 year ago
@Guerilla333 I don't know where you get the idea that the R32 is faster than the NSX. The NSX beats R34's in 1/4 mile. The NSX also beat the R32 on the Nurburgring. In terms of tuning spec, the fastest North American Time Attack car is a 700hp NSX. The NSX beats R32 on straights, beats it in braking, beats it in handling, beats it in corner stability, and since the skyline is a lot heavier, the NSX beats it on corner exits. Skyline vs NSX. NSX wins. Skyline GTR vs NSX-R. NSX-R wins.
c312eal 1 year ago
@c312eal yea, the NSX beat the skyline in all the japanese videos i saw, they were stock tho
SuperBrandango 10 months ago
@BIHxJDMxSUPRA NSX's got more potential
c312eal 1 year ago
Even the R34 couldn't beat the NSX around the RING.
c312eal 1 year ago
@c312eal oh lol i ment r35..
BIHxJDMxSUPRA 1 year ago
@daddyjunkie Second is honda wasn't defeated... Infact if Honda went turbo they're prolly destroy ever car company in terms of power out there. Look at the 80s when F1 was still turbo. Honda dominated with their turbo engines SO we all know Honda has the technology to turbo their cars. But Honda believes theres a lot of things wrong with turbo charging. Fuel consumption and reliability issues.
c312eal 1 year ago
@daddyjunkie Forced induction is like this. Picture 2 runners. One naturally breath or naturally aspirated. He breaths in the air of the environment. Now if the air outside had low pressure or didnt hold enough oxygen then it would affect his performance. The 2nd runner breaths in compressed air that is filled with oxygen. We all know our body works better and our brain too when we get lots of oxygen. These 2 runners race each other. Is it fair? Forced Induction vs. Natural.
c312eal 1 year ago
ia no alegare ! pruebas me remito!
pockar07 1 year ago
r32 gtr's come stock 340hp
ReidHarris7 1 year ago
nissan>honda!
pockar07 1 year ago
@pockar07 Honda > Nissan. Honda doesn't rely on turbos for power.
c312eal 1 year ago
@c312eal para mi nissan es mejor que honda!
y para mi siempre lo sera!
pockar07 1 year ago
@pockar07 Honda = F1 = Aryton Senna. Honda F1 Engine - 3.0L N/A 900hp
c312eal 1 year ago
@c312eal whats wrong with turbo they should get with the progam what the hell the poit of having a 220 hp SO CALL SUPER CAR
wazii6 1 year ago
@wazii6 Turbo = lag and lowers the reliability and life of engine. N/A = ultimate throttle response and engine response. Nissan should get with the program. Anyone can make power by slapping on a turbo. But not everyone get alot of power from a N/A engine. The NSX has a 290hp n/a engine. It's the world's first everyday super car. I has many break through technologies that paved the way for super cars today. The McLaren F1 was based of the NSX. Get with the program.
c312eal 1 year ago
@c312eal
yea but the degree of lag is dependent of a number of factors such as the type motor, type of turbo and how well its tuned. For some cars, like the supra or skyline, lag isn't an issue because the ends justify the means. True that honda's vtec system allows for uncompromising, raw power at one shot but at the end of the day if you want to make the most of a car, turbo is the way to go. And wrong, you can't just slap a turbo on anything, different cars yield different results.
daddyjunkie 1 year ago
@daddyjunkie You said there isn't a single honda that can compete against a skyline/supra/rx7. Well from factory cars. There wasn't a single car in the japanese until the R35,that could compete with the NSX. But hey the NSX is a 20 year old design. Designed in the late 80s. Is it even fair to compare it to the R33 or R34s? The NSX is a race car. A super responsive high revving N/A engine, lightweight chassis, MR layout. I think out of all the car companies. Honda knows best how to make a racecar
c312eal 1 year ago
@daddyjunkie Please try to remember. Great engine tuners take great pride when they are able to produce a HIGH displacement/power ratio N/A engine. Because its something really hard to achieve. Alot harder than forced induction tuning. A good example of this is ferrari (: Most of their cars are N/A are you going to say they defeated also?
c312eal 1 year ago
@wazii6 And btw about the program. Most super car companies make their car N/A engines. High revving N/A engine that out puts somewhere around 100hp per 1L.
c312eal 1 year ago
@c312eal though i do agree that the nsx is a badass car once they start coming with stock turbo options
wazii6 1 year ago
@wazii6 Having a turbo on a NSX destroys what Honda was trying to achieve with the car. NSX = F1 handling, F1 engine and throttle response, High revving N/A engine. It's already badass enough and remember the NSX design is a 20 year old design. The R34 is an 10 year design. The NSX was a car way ahead of its time. Honda doesn't really want to use turbo. If honda went turbo for power, it would dominate all. Just like in Formula 1 when they still used turbo.
c312eal 1 year ago
@c312eal i give you respect cuase you know your facts ok so we will leave the all motor super car alone but it would be nice to see a stock built honda turbo car due to the fact that manny honda fans like myself enjoy turbos and after driving stock turbo cars i fell in love with the idea cuase they have a turbo that is perfect for the engine so i can worry about other adds instead of turbo which are painfull in tuneing and building proces
wazii6 1 year ago
@c312eal like i want honda or any car company to make the most reliable and resposive turbo are u see puting a turbo on a car isnt as easy as most think anyone can slap a turbo and put 3 pounds of boost but it comes to serious boost thats a defrnt story its a big difrance when you have a a honda or any car enginner put in the setup to install serious performance and turbos tune to perfection aculy very little to flawess driving experance so honda should focus on stock turbo
wazii6 1 year ago
@wazii6 uhhh NO, honda would never go turbo. Mastering N/A efficient is what Honda is all about. Honda is known for its famous N/A engines. They pump out more than 100hp/L. You make it sound like Turbos are everything. Engineering a high performance N/A engine is harder than engineering a turbo engine. Honda is respected in the international racing community because of they can make N/A engines like ferrari and bmw. Whats not serious about N/A engines?
c312eal 1 year ago
@c312eal N/A engines give a different type of serious performance. The instant engine response, the moment you step on the throttle full power comes on, the high revving engine, the high compression ratios. True if honda went turbo they would destroy companies like nissan in terms of power. But its not what honda is looking for, they want to master N/A efficient and thats why they came up with VTEC. If you think of it VTEC is kinda like turbo LOL Once you hit VTEC its like the turbo lag is gone
c312eal 1 year ago
NSX even had its roof off increasing its drag.
Would be faster streamlined.
crxdelsolsir 1 year ago
put one NSX im my dirty hands and skyline will eat my Shit!
drmendonsa 1 year ago
@drmendonsa the nsx is a way beter circut car
wazii6 1 year ago
yes vtec engine>>>>>>>>>>>>>go go go nsx
MrJustvtec 1 year ago
NSX 290HP and still can hang
supertrex2 1 year ago
lies
badboydavid10 1 year ago
i love both cars but how many ps did have plus the gtr??
kamikazicrxsi 2 years ago
haha i love skylines...my aunthas a 895 HP GT-R its SIIIICK
bakerXderek 2 years ago
@bakerXderek Fuck you and you're aunt...
dnick454 1 year ago
skyline is the one and only godzilla.
virensanchit 2 years ago 2
@virensanchit um i thought Godzilla was a giant lizard that comes out of the ocean from time to time and eats up japan.
eludethis 1 year ago
@eludethis While skylines are not covered in green scales and don't swim so well (although I'm not sure how well lizards can swim now that you mention it), I'm pretty sure Godzilla is an Australian nick name for Skyline. The r32 won like every race it entered in Australia so was called godzilla, a monster from japan.
jon8864 1 year ago
ooo weeeee, that was awesome!
jel251 3 years ago