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  • was this in a minardi?

  • Now i actually am trolling, i cant wait for you to reply as you seem to have lost your control of anger :).

  • @ Trulyroyal, I thought you were so knowdleged about f1, you don't even know the name of turn 1 at Spa. Thas la source. I never watched Moto GP anyway. It seems you are mentally retarded as you blame others for being idiots and brainless trolls while the only troll i can find on the comments here is you. I rest my case, you clearly show you have no clue about racing what so ever no matter what you try to show us.

  • @betsiej Ps : and once more, stupid clueless jackass , it's not a TURN when it comes to F1 , it's not the road you turn down there in your hometown, can you get that now or do you need a kids' psycholigist to explain it to your little brain ...!!!

    No wonder for your contoinouous redundant silly stupid coments : you're as dummy as any troll of the web and you dont need to tell about you never watching even one F1 race, it's so easy to understand even for people of your same IQ rate ...!

  • @betsiej And now close your chicken's mouth , idiot and stick to what you're more accustomed, 'cos you are a tard even as troll of F1 racing .....!!

    Post more wooden minded clueless troll

  • @Trulyloyale Wow, it seems everything you say comes out of frustration because of your own mental handicap. I know my shit about F1 and i talked to a lot of drivers who race themselfs but i never heard any one of them say something as ridiculous as your comments about the correct term for things. The 'accelerator' and 'bend' is used in karting yes, i heard a lot of guys talking about throttle or gas pedal or other stuff. If you have nothing better to do than flaming about my terms just STFU

  • @betsiej No brainless troll, it seems that you're showing more & more how stupid and ignorant you are since you're showing in the most evident way that you're only one of the many retarded trolls of web ....!! xDD

    I repeat once more : shut your kid' s mouth about subjects you're totally clueless and you sound ridiculous even as troll , " accellerator " ( with double LL , at least learn to copy correctly words from your English tarnslator , funny jackass ...xDD ) and " bend" are universally

  • used in ALL cars races not just in kart , clueless moron !!! Andit's really superfunny the bs you've just spelled like a child on " you hearing of people talking of THROTTLE ( and what fucked it is , a toy for children ..??? Ahahahah) " when such a word doesn't exiast in cars racing slang and dictionary !! xDDD

    Ahahah try harder to provoke, moronic child brain , you're only a pathetic clueless idiot who made a fool of himself with his first stupid comments on a subject he has no idea

  • about and now you're pathetically tryin to play the role of botherin' troll to repair the very ridiculous impression you've been making till now ...!!

    Pathetic effort and I'm the ONE here who is making joke of yourself : check carefully how I was making you a fool by telling you the bs of the double LL in accelerator ( which is correctly written with 1 L only ) just to underline all your stupidity , ignorance, idiocy , childish mentality and clueless attitude ....!! xDDD

    You're such a retard

  • And now post more, post how much you want, clueless jackass and childish stupid troll , I got really annoyed in replying to your nonsensed bullshiting coments of bizarre shit and in ridiculizing your thiny brain ( in case you have one, which it doesn't seem by all the amount of idiocies you're stubbornly keepin' on posting like a 7 years old little boy ....) ! xDDD

    At beginning I had fun in making joke of such a funny moron as you, but now I really got bored !!

    I won't waste even 1 sec more

  • @Trulyloyale Allright im done talking to you, it seems that you can't do anything else but insulting people right from the start. You fail

  • Good clean lap from Gene.

  • I was always sorry for those guys in bad cars... I mean they risk their lifes, giving 100% like any other driver, but the cars just sucked... As you can see, Marc is using the whole width of the track, nearly touching the grass, trying to get it flat through eau rouge... and then, they were always 1,5 to 2 secs behind the lead... had to be frustrating..

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  • that camera should come back to f1 again

  • I had many sympathies for Minardi and I often wished that one day they would have a more competitive car again, like in the early 90's for example. But unfortunately they were at the back of the field in every season. The cars were just horrible and so was the Minardi of Gene and Badoer in 1999.

  • ty 4 your effort in making this vid 4 f1 freaks like me to watch!! good on ya..from Australia mate:)

  • Ese era el Sauber Petronas?

  • bad driver

  • TIago monteiro or pedro lamy are better hahahaha

  • @belaalefrose Pedro Lamy of course Tiago monteiro i dont think so tiago is really poor. spanish have more money therefore more possibilaty of getting to f1 if i was rich i would be in f1. ive followed his career and ive never seen him as a good driver fernando clearly deservs to be in f1 he is one of the best

  • I was at that GP. Spa is special.

  • To get to F1, you must be a damn good river at the very least..in F1, you're either great, or you're even better.

  • marc genè a very good driver ??

    XDDD do u have any even far idea of the subject ??

    He's one of the worst of F1 circus , a crappy one , he may be good in GT but

    F1 is something completely different !!!

  • Yes, he is so crappy that Ferrari hired him as a test driver to develop their Fomula One cars.

    But I guess they're wrong. They should hire someone sitting behind a keyboard to run their F1 team.

  • the good old days of spa, you have to lift for eau rouge, la source hairpin is very tight. And the old bus stop chicane. The greatest racing circuit of them all.

  • Listen to the Cosworth V10 flashing past Blanchimont at 1:48.

  • marc gene is a very good driver ,nothing else to say

  • This is the slowest car of '99, but Still looks very very fast

  • The lightning speed effect is caused by the camera projection on the radio reciever above the driver's head. Real speed is possibly 2/3rd of the speed you see in this video.

  • Of course it's very fast. It's F1 car.

  • Badoer deserved for all his past work the opportunity Ferrari rightly gave him , but I can't see any reason in the world why

    crappy Marc who ? should have taken the vacant place !

    Badoer is so much better than Marc who ? , so he didn't denied anything to useless Genè .

  • sorry but you seem to be really biased. Why did Marc do to you? Marc is definitely good driver, I don´t see any reason why he´s crappy driver. In 1999 and 2000 he did a very good job. Scored Minardi´s first point since 1995 and in 2000 he was also doing well. In 2003 he scored 4 points on his debut for Williams. In 2004 in the British and German GP the Williams wasn´t really a good car, even Montoya was struggling to score points.

  • Obviously Marc Genè did nothing to me, I just expressed my opinion over a driver who is not good enough for Ferrari.

    Maranello made a mistake with Badoer

    ( they just wanted to thank him x his long time work as test driver givin' him a chance in the F1 circus ) I didn't see why Ferrari had to make twice the same mistake . I was replying to those who complained about Genè deserving more that chance, and in my opinion Badoer deserved more for more than a reason.

    That's all !

  • in every team he's worked.

    As Ferrari test driver his job was checking Badoer's tests after Luca had debated any tech spec with Schumacher to set the car , but he really ( and still is )

    had little importance inside Ferrari team .

    Badoer worked for 12 years in Ferrari as test driver and Scumacher trusted only in him and in nobody else .

    Genè didn't deserved even to be rumored for the Ferrari place, you can imagine to drive in F1 races ....!

  • @Trulyloyale Marc Gené points in 99: 1 point

    Luca Badoer in 99: 0 points.

    These are FACTS. STFU.

  • ??? Marc Genè a great driver ??

    maybe for you and for one way blind spanish press and for the spanish fans

    who don't have a great knowledge of F1 , but to the ones who really know this sport Genè was totally crappy as driver :

    4 years driving a Minardi and a Williams BMW , a 6th and a 5th place as best results driving a competitive car like Williams was .

    Maybe ask Frank Williams why he preferred even Pizzonia to Genè .

    As test driver he has always been not more than ordinary

  • Marc is a good driver - not great but definitely a good driver. Made very few mistakes, finished most of the races for Minardi he entered. Scored a point for Minardi and 4 for BMW at Monza. And why you try to denny his win at Le Mans. It´s not F1 but still a great achievment

  • williams-bmw I´m sorry

  • 4 for Williams*

  • Genè earned 5 points in past years ?

    Wow AMAZING !! XD who is he, the new

    Schumi ?? Hahaha Genè earned 6 points in his F1 career, 5 of which driving a Williams / BMW a car infinitely better & faster than the ones Badoer had driven .

    Sorry but some people and our Spanish friends should trust in those who know cars racing since nearly 100 years and F1 since it started ......

  • The same Gene who raced only two full seasons in F1 and both were in the basement car, to score that point in the Nurnburgring he had to stay in front of title-chasing Eddie Irvine and he raced well in the Williams to fill in for ralf schumacher, was one of only five drivers still on the lead lap too.

    Great Driver and deserved the Ferrari place, but was denied by Luca testing Badoer.

  • Genè good because he won Le Mans ??

    Hahaha I understand you're spanish but at least try to be a little rational, you're not in Marca or As site here ....XD !

    The 24h of Le Mans is something completely different from F1 : it's just another category , it's GT wich compared to F1 is like a kid's game .

    Several mediocre drivers have won Le Mans, that means nothing.

    Look at who is Ferrari test driver since 12 years and considered the best and look at Genè as Ferrari test driver

  • Don't forget he's driving a minardi dude, not the easiest car to handle...

    And even though i admit he's certainly not the best driver, i've already seen much worst trajectories than gene's ones...

  • Badoer the good one, he he he... at least Gene has won the Lemans this year...

    By the way, how many points scored Badoer in the F1? and Gené?

  • @Trulyloyale You clearly not know what you're talking about.

  • @vander82 ok what u want , you're so rite : I've been watching and I'm so deeply interested in F1 since my 8 ( now I'm 25 ) , so I need to learn F1 from any else .... !

  • @Trulyloyale You talk like if you were a F1 driver.

  • @basurero123 not really , maybe you got this impression due x you being from spain a rookie country in F1 and so you're supposed to be cluleess of this sport , but I'm talking as the same as majority of F1 fans in any related forum in countries of older & major traditions like Italy, UK or Germany .

    If you went and read a normal debate inside a forum in one of those countries, you'd be astonished form the level of knowledge and competence of fans, but that's how things really are.

  • I'm not saying that those fans are as skilled as the Imola or Monza ones who are outside circuits when Ferrari test cars and can tell you all different gears sec per sec only by listening to variations of engine sounding , but their knowledge of F1 is millions light years ahead of that one appearing from all the rubbish, funny nonsenses and asinine comments in any spanish forum, like f.i. the F1

    of spanish newspapers Marca or As or ABC .....!

  • @Trulyloyale Alright, you are a wise guy and i'm a cluleeesss rookie. Keep talking like fans talk in that forums but don't forget that drivers are who take the turns and can handle a car beyond 250 km/h and you're only a guy who believe knowing how is supposed to do that. I'm not going to argue with you so reply me and keep being as fan-tastic as you are.

  • @basurero123 sorry but I cant really get what's the point of your comments : in the 1st one you accused me of believing myself a F1 driver and I told you why this argument of yours is quite senseless , bizarre and naive .

    Now you got angry 'coz I told you that your previous comment seems to be posted by a clueless person and keep on posting other silly staments dreaming on an attitude I don't have in any of my cooments and I never had ....

  • I'm a guy who thinks to know how to drive a F1 race better than a prof driver ?? XD

    Absolutely not and I also said that in my comment , not only this but I also specified that there are much more skilled & more competent F1 fans in Italian , British or German forums of F1 , not my fault if you're not one of them and have no idea of what to type in such a debate !

    I made a comment about this video and there are many people with a great knowledge of the subject who would write the same

  • much more particularly and even more harshly , so nor I'm the fan- tastic guy on here , neither I started this meaningless & pointless argue , you did ......!

  • @Trulyloyale You can't be more wrong.

  • @Trulyloyale dude i agree with you that in driving only Carlos Sainz and Fernando Alonso have proven your point, but in bikes??? you must be kidding Angel Nieto, Alex Criville, Dani Pedrosa, Jorge Lorenzo, Sete Gibernau, Toni Elias, this year looks like 125cc moto2 and motoGP champs are gonna be spanish

  • @Trulyloyale Marc Gene= Formula 1 driver, paid millions of dollars to do what you see in this video. And you are?

  • @Trulyloyale not so sure about that.. apart from that car being crap, apart from alonso, check alguersuari, he is quite good, and is beating buemi constantly with less experience.

    besides, he won the le mans, that's quite some achievement

  • @Trulyloyale lol I really enjoy it when idiots fail when attempting to make a smart comment on things that they don't know even know shit about.

  • @Hmkls good x you then , so you had much fun in seeing a lot of " internet experts " of F1 and car's racing , or a lot of newcomers of the web who really have no idea of race driving and F1 driving pushing thumbs down to my correct, logic and skilled comment only x nationalistic pride or chauvinistic spirit !!

    Since when in spain do they know a minimum shit of F1 ??

    Well I hope for your mental health you're not one of those clueless , ignorant and pathetic idiots,

  • differently you'd make a fool of yourself like few others here in the site : you know, typing stupid comments as a clueless moron claming x someone else skilled to be wrong is so easy and it just takes that short time to type bizarre bs that are only funny jokes and nothing else .

    Ask any upper class cars driver how's the driver's performance in this video compared to the usual standard in the F1 and he will confirm many if not all my words , not my fault if many people don't know a shit

  • of car's driving and F1 on this video space , not my fault if they're as ignorant and wooden-minded as you and they make skilled people laugh due to their stupidity, just like you did ..........and I'm laughing to tears for your

    embarrassing ignorance and funny idiocy ...!! ))))

    Ps learn to talk of arguments you know something about , don't try to give " lesson of F1 " to people like me who is mad of this sport since his 10s and lives 100 miles far from Imola .....!! xDD

    Omg tards of web

  • @Trulyloyale see there is the difference, I KNOW that you are one of those clueless ignorant and pathetic idiots, because you can only run your mouth. post a video of you driving better than that and then talk.

  • @Hmkls again you're trying to mix up the truth and are tryin' to change true facts as a typical stupid pathetic troll of web : just repeating my words like a parrot, or should I say like a 7 years little boy , to post stupid childish short comments !!

    See the difference, brainless idiot : I SHOWED TO KNOW what I'm talking about and I SAID EXACTLY WHAT ALL EXPERTS WOULD SAY ABOUT THIS VIDEO, not my fault if YOU and others like you ARE

    SO RIDICULOUSLY CLUELESS of race driving and write your

  • funny bs mixing up F1 ( about which you and your worthy donkey mates clearly show not to have any idea about) with GT with your home fair's small karts competition !!

    Once more, YOU can only open your clueless and ignorant mouth posting bothering short comments with the typical attitude of the typical retarded web troll and you know nothing more than this .

    Only a tip x ur child's brain : leave cars racing and driving , you're too stupid to understand something about , trolling is different

  • And now cut it off, you really annoyed and bothered those skilled of us with your childish comments full of funny bs and ridiculous nonsenses, no matter how many accounts you used to post them down and to vote thumbs down my right comment telling the truth about this very bad lap by Genè , just like that stupid child you are !!

    Stop botherin' us all and try to grow up instead , you really need it ......

    Omg what an idiot

  • @Trulyloyale and again, yapin yapin yapin, looks like the only thing that works is your mounth. little kids like you who thinks he knows anything are so sad. go crying to your mom and stop trolling.

  • @Hmkls again , as that ridiculous and brainless troll of the web you are, keepin' on posting all generical short comments suiting any words of mine just to provoke like a 7 years old little boy .....!!!

    Pathetic and unbelievably stupid , you can't even play your troll's role .....!! ))))

    Wont waste more time with such a brainless idiot and a poor jackass as you

    Post more , you retard

  • @Trulyloyale why don't you look at your own comments before you post, everything you says just fits perfectly on yourself LMAO

  • @Hmkls YOU should look at your own comments that are the best evidence of what I say about such a retarded, ridiculous and pathetic childish troll of the web like you .......

    as I said, you're keepin' on trying to suiting any word of my comments, just like a 7 years old little boy ....!

    Pathetic and embarrasingly stupid , you're the perfect idiot of internet .....!!

    Post more brainless and clueless troll

  • @Trulyloyale reading your comments sure makes my day, I have yet to see anyone else like you who thinks he knows it all but yet is so moronic, that it is beyond words to describe. this is like someone who can't do math thinking 1+1 equals 3 and then when people try to tell him about it he says that everyone else is stupid, so please post more of your thoughts, let me just grab my popcorns real quick...

  • @Hmkls that makes your day ??!! xDDD I trust to you , that's part of the " job " of every brainless & retarded troll of the web like you and all a troll makes on a day , the other part is keepin' on posting so stupid & spastic comments like this your last one only to mark on his 24h presence on this site just to remember everyone what kinda of clueless & pathetic nerd he is .....!!

    Just tell me , can you understand the meaning of what I've just written ??

    J guess you cant since you keep on

  • posting always the same pointless , senseless , ridiculous bs stupid comment after stupid comment ......!!

    From 1 to 10 , how much idiot you are, 101 ...?? xDDD

    omg why there are so pathetic dumbasses on the web ?

  • @Trulyloyale Thanks, you just proved my point XD

  • @Hmkls do such a pathetic brainless stupid web troll as you even have a point ...??!! ))))))))

  • @Trulyloyale Yes I have, you're just too stupid to understand it.

  • @Hmkls what, a typical brainless ignorant retarded dummy ridiculous child brain of web troll like you are, who's by himself the emblem of stupidity and mental crappiness has a point in his daily " job " ....??!! xDDD

    Ahahahah funny joke, quite silly but funny ....

    hey moron of a troll, you need a good mental doctor before growin up with your chicken's small brain !!

    Omg such a stubborn idiot

  • @Trulyloyale If your so knowledged, please tell us what the driver is doing wrong in this video.

  • @betsiej I said that in my comment , noy my fault if you dont read similarly to some "IQed" people ......

    Anyway I'm just very fond of this sport since I was a little boy , I'm not a " scientist " of this sport, I just wrote of some basic issues of F1 race driving , nothing so complex & mysterious ......

  • @Trulyloyale Ok my fault, i couldn't see your original comment because of the high amount of dislikes.

    Besides that, i never heard anyone use the phrase 'traiectorie into a corner' before. I know there is turn in, apex and exit.

    Looking at this lap the only thing i can say is that he missed the apex at la source, perhaps a bit to agressive on the throttle on the exits of the medium/slower speed corners but i think its the car rather then the driver. So i don't agree

  • @betsiej=Hmkis = all your 100 accounts on the site ..... you said it right : the amount of dislikes , which is the amount of ignorant clueless morons and ridiculous trolls of the web like you .......as I repeatly said in my comments  ..!!

    So , such a funny child brain and a clueless troll from spain or from any other country where the knowledge of F1 is close to zero like you , " never heard anyone using specific tech words and idiomatic expressions of race cars driving dictionary ...! D

  • No wonder of that, since not only you look totally clueless & embarrassingly ignorant of F1 and race driving, but you are also pathetic , stupid and wooden-minded like all those sheep who made thumbs down to my competent and good comment ....!!

    Read and learn and , once more, stop bothering us all with your typical troll's ignorance and stupidity , just face the fact that you know absolutely nothing of F1 , cars racing and related subjects instead of making a fool of yourself by pretending

  • to talk of subjects YOU HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT , like all trolls of the web use to do ....!!

    Read and learn , so you'll avoid from looking like a poor child brain and a pathetic jackass :

    you can properly use the verb " to turn " ( and not to turn IN ) when you talk of ordinary road driving ( there are even specific turn right or turn ahead road signs too ...) , but NEVER when you talk of F1 or any race cars driving 'cos they are senseless and in fact they are not used by anyone ...!

  • Only a stupid childish troll who means to provoke or a funny clueless jackass can think that road traffic vocabulary is not only good for cars racing but is also used in place of cars race driving itself .....!!! xDDDD

    Sorry x you and your embarrassing kid's ignorance, but the statement " missing all trajectories in bends " ( and not in corners as you wrongly reported, at least learn to read, you jackass ! ) is the correct and proper one in cars race driving , while instead the bizarre acron.

  • or improper words you've just written down by a quick check in google are simply ridiculous and pointless .

    You " turn in " when you 're getting to your home road , the apex is another word used in race driving ( not just in cars race ) whose concept has been taken by geometry to underline the straightest point of a trajectory in a bend , as for the " exit " ( another word you've just picked from wiki page ...xDDD ! ) I never said there's no exit at the end of a bend , so ....! ;-)

  • And, at ladt, tell me what fucked means " he miiseed the apex at la source " ...( what is la source ..?? xDDD ahahaha ) , what fucked means " perhaps a bit too aggressive on the throttle ( the correct word is ACCELERATOR , you need to check better you wiki's pages, you poor donkey ) since any F1 driver is no MotoGP racer and he must be the most aggressive possible in EVERY exit of EVERY bend otherwise he's gonna be constantly on late compared to default time x tourand he's gonna be missing

  • next gears times making a bloody mess and that is even truer on the " exits of medium/slower speed BENDS ( and not corners like you ignorantelly keep on writing ) !!

    And no, the embarrassing mistakes everyone can see in the video are all driver's mistakes , the wrong trajectories , the bad driving skills ( obviously I'm talking of F1 that is 100 times more selective than any other category ) and all shit by genè comfortably checkable by those who know cars races driving have nothing to do

  • with that Minardi car which used to have other kinda problems 100% far from a spanish driver's crappiness and incapability.

    Not my fault if you know nothing of all that and can't understand it , all you can do is making skilled people laugh with your repertory of redundant funny bs and childish nonsenses, don't talk of a subject if you're so damn clueless and ignorant !!

    Post more trolling jackass

  • @Trulyloyale Its funny you say that, because other then that you keep calling me a clueless idiot and a spanish troll, but your not staying on the topic which was the driving of marc gene here. Where i disagree with you.

  • @betsiej what is funny is that YOU keep on tryin' to make things look opposite x you repeating to me the same accusation I rightly made to your nonsensed stupid comments showing all your ignorance about cars race driving ( no need to say that I'm just telling of the real subject since my 1st coment, opposite of you and your 10 different accounts on here ) , which is typical of any brainless clueless troll , but you're making that in such a crappy way .....!! )))

    Post more trolling moron

  • @Trulyloyale Allright fine, keep calling me a troll and other stuff. I'm trying to discuss Marc Gene's driving here and all you keep doing is flaming me. The reason why i responded to you is not only because i disagree but the way how you responded to other people, you seem to respond to everyone in the same way: calling them brainless idiots and trolls and telling them that you watched this since when you were a kid.

    If you have nothing to say that is on subject then please STFU

  • @betsiej again repeating my same issues and words about your superstupid ridiculous commetns full of bs ......get it over, childish troll , 'cos you're really annoyed everyone to death ....!!

    Try to grow up, I told you so many times

  • @Trulyloyale stay on topic dude, im not here to discuss what the fuck you think about me. You talk nothing but shit. Your acting like you know a bunch of stuff but when i ask you about you start being offensive. You just fail. shut up and enjoy the video already

  • @betsiej SHUT YOUR FUCKED MOUTH BRAINLESS TROLLING RETARD AND DON'T BOTHER US

    LONGER WITH YOUR SHIT ||||

    Got it now, idiot ??

    Grow up , child brain

  • @Trulyloyale Your the only one with the child brain here, Your nothing but flaming and inslulting people. Your also making a big joke of yourself by telling everyone that you are so smart while matter of fact the only thing you do is flame people. Stop saying 'us' if you mean yourself. You seriously have some issues

  • this bus stop was way better than the new one...

    comment please

  • I agree.

    But year before (1998) the bus stop was even better. For 1999 they had opened the second s-corner and made it easier.

  • Yeh i've been saying that every time i watch a lap. I dont know why they changed it. Part of the greatness of spa was not knowing who would come round to cross the line first in a battle

  • @MegaNafets agreed

  • Gene got the best out of the shit heap he was given BAR would have been a nice move

  • Of Course, there should be loads more Amercians watching F1 next year with the USGP team taking to the grid: probably with Scott Speed as one of the pilots.

  • hey isi44,having kyle busch go to F1 is like montoya going back to F1. The both have alot of attitude.

  • Someone here is judging Gene's driving. From what I just saw I don't think anyone can say anything, just watch,enjoy and shut up.

  • yea i saw his 1st turn hairpin slide, i think he hit the throttle too early

  • did you see gene/badoer's slide on the first hairpin, he hit the throttle too early or his traction control played up.

    Also Indianaopolis sucks, the ovals brilliant but for f1 build a new track or host it a pheonix or long beach.

  • This video is from 1999 - there was no traction control so what you're hearing is wheel spin

  • en k escuderia corria marc?

  • Scuderia Minardi

  • gotta love the track... this version is better than the new one

  • i see you live in the USA... do you know a lot of people over there who watch formula 1?

  • of my whole grade (300 students) i only know one who watches every race like me so yeah it's very low the amount of people who watch f1 sadly =(... but now that they took the US GP off, even less people are going to watch it, the only way to get more viewers is having a good american driver which i don't see any options except for kyle busch

  • yeah i think it's a real shame F1 is not going to the US anymore...

    But i heard they could come back in your country in 2010! ;-)

  • nice! i guess that's 2 years to go

  • gene fece un' ottima stagone al debutto con la minardi nel 1999

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