honest I wanted to keep it short but I can't . This is probably the most amazing plot in the whole star trek franchise, and considering this was part of a pilot I find it the best piece of writing ever. How naively the wormhole aliens ask about things like time and linear existence, concepts that are so given and natural to us... how these timeless creatures are protrayed. Thank you buddha7575 this is a superb editing job you did here that puts toghether probably one of the best star trek ever
I always cry during the part where Sisko realizes what they meant, realizes his repression of his feelings, then breaks down ("I......exist here.") This whole wormhole part is so powerful and brilliant, especially 7:14-9:43
This is a wonderful episode and the best trek pilot . I can really relate to this. My mother passed away two months ago and I too "exist" at her bedside the moment she died and i too see her face whenever I close my eyes and i too wonder how I can go on with linear existance without her
This entire sequence takes on added meaning when you realize the revelations of the final season. I don't want to provide a spoiler, but I would like to suggest to viewers who know the entire story to consider another reason why the "Prophets" would want to point out to Sisco that he has been living a life trapped with the memory of the loss of his wife.
i think we exist ... becuase all we do is curate war it.. i mean listen... all through out history what do we rember the most war death suffering... i belive humans are nothing more than machines with only 1 order to destroy our selves and every thing eals or die trying.
Yeah he can't really be "teaching" them about a linear existence. If they are non-linear beings then they already know the difference, since he was going to explain it to them eventually. I think the prophets were just leading him to learn about himself.
@gagadooch The nice G is for the historic Homestead Grays.
During World War II, the Grays played their home games at both Forbes Field (Pittsburgh) and Griffith Stadium (Washington, D.C.) when the white Major League clubs were on the road. The Grays traditionally outdrew their white counterparts, the cellar-dwelling Washington Senators.
Unheralded greats included 23-year Grays vet Vic Harris (OF), and Sam Bankhead. Bankhead became the first black manager in Minor League Baseball in 1951.
Actually, to say it stuck with me is a huge understatement. It is the basis, purpose and guideline for my "existence". I am who I am because of this. The prophets or "wormhole aliens" are in there for any one who listens... :-)
I have always thought this was very interesting, since the day I saw it trippin on shrooms the day it originally aired. Has stayed with me ever since.
This is a very powerful display of Sisko's "existence". When the Prophets keep saying - "What is this? (phrase)", he has to explain things to them like little kids, but with the emotions that come with that 'moment'. The Prophets have no understanding of anything he is telling them, so he must break it down as best he can. And, whenever I see him with the baseball, I look on my desk, as I have a ball he signed at a convention.
My favorite episode of all the Star Trek series. Well written with memorable scenes as the Prophets and Sisko come to an understanding of time, when Sisko finally understands that consciously he is dwelling in the past and his relationship with his wife, Jennifer, especially on the day of her expiration, while simultaneously existing in the present, is deeply moving. There is only the "now".
And the irony is that "Q" shows up in an episode. So, from 'child-like' Prophets whom he has to "teach" to an all-knowing 'Q' who acts like Sisko is a little kid. LOL
Thanks for posting this. The scenes from "Emissary" where Sisko tries to explain what linear existence is to the Wormhole Beings is a great philosophical exercise in not living in the past, as he discovers when he keeps reliving his wife's death.
No different than Data always twitching and going thru his subprocessers when he hears a word for the first time that he is unfamiliar with. It is a bit repetitive in this episode, but it's like when a kid keeping repeating "But why?"
A brilliant scene. Does anyone remember the episode where Quark explains the Rules of Acquisition to the Prophets? One of the funniest excerpts from the entire series.
Great video. I really liked this sequence from the first episode of "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine". I really like how Ben tries to explain the concept of linear time to beings who have no concept of it. The breakthrough he made when he figured out how to use baseball in his explanation was well down, as was his breakdown when he realized that human memories aren't linear. This sequence certainly set the stage for the rest of the series that followed. Thanks for uploading.
You're welcome. Mind that not only our memory isn't linear but our whole existence.
Life is like a circle and as such without cause and effect. It's like like running around the globe - you won't end up anywhere, but all roads lead back to the point where your started - yourself.
Without c&e, there is no time. Your life exists only in THIS moment.
Your life does exist only in this moment, but to deny cause and effect is to deny that past experiences have any bearing on who you are now, and who you will become. I too used to follow zen. There is a certain peace, but you have to deny truth to walk the razor's path. Cause and effect are integral to not only the physical realm but spiritual as well.
Well, the idea, I think, is to not let your "self" get involved in whatever you do, yet try to be the best you know you can be.
It's like playing a game that takes 8 rounds to win and making each round a game in itself. While you take each round seriously you also know its only a game that "you" can neither win nor loose.
@Buddha7575 It is not 8 rounds, it is 9 perfect innings. ;-) But sometimes it is 8 and a half - and - if it rains, and the game has completed the top half of the 5th inning and the home team is ahead, the game can be deemed an official game. The home team is declared the winner, and the game officially counts in standings.
Thank you so much! I needed this for my wife who claims not to understand linear time.
OriginalNeomoon 1 week ago
this is why i love trek.life lessons in tolerance,respct for other cultures mores,traditions,et al.
mad4you1000 1 month ago
"No, it's not linear."
Great line and great delivery by Brooks.
kingdickthefirst 1 month ago
A good man doing the best he can, while holding less than ideal cards.
Riverrstone 1 month ago
honest I wanted to keep it short but I can't . This is probably the most amazing plot in the whole star trek franchise, and considering this was part of a pilot I find it the best piece of writing ever. How naively the wormhole aliens ask about things like time and linear existence, concepts that are so given and natural to us... how these timeless creatures are protrayed. Thank you buddha7575 this is a superb editing job you did here that puts toghether probably one of the best star trek ever
piccard1976 2 months ago 2
epic video tbh
piccard1976 2 months ago
This never fails to make me cry. What an amazing Trek pilot. It puts all the others to shame.
MitholX 2 months ago
one of the best sequences in all of star trek. I put that right up there with Picard discovering the flute in the probe.
ndileonardo 2 months ago 2
lol J. G. Hertzler... even though he's a different character here, I still saw him as Martok.
Metathran 3 months ago
thats why i love trek,because it always dealt with humanstic issues.
mad4you1000 3 months ago
I always cry during the part where Sisko realizes what they meant, realizes his repression of his feelings, then breaks down ("I......exist here.") This whole wormhole part is so powerful and brilliant, especially 7:14-9:43
coffeeintheface 5 months ago
It's just such a touching emotion-filled moment. Well acted by Avery Brooks.
Strife1969 6 months ago 3
This video captures in just under ten minutes why Star Trek is so much better than Star Wars.
dannyboylee 7 months ago
@dannyboylee
Star Wars films are space opera type fantasy films, I have no clue how you compare Star Trek and Star Wars.
Usul573 6 months ago
This is a wonderful episode and the best trek pilot . I can really relate to this. My mother passed away two months ago and I too "exist" at her bedside the moment she died and i too see her face whenever I close my eyes and i too wonder how I can go on with linear existance without her
lbrinin1701 7 months ago
3 Pagh-Wraiths survived and dislike this clip.
wijayapala 8 months ago 3
This why i love star trek.advancements in technology,human understand and getting beyond the pettiness of greed,racism et al.
mad4you1000 9 months ago
wow even though ive never seen an episode of startrek, i know its underrated
thedeathskittle 1 year ago
This entire sequence takes on added meaning when you realize the revelations of the final season. I don't want to provide a spoiler, but I would like to suggest to viewers who know the entire story to consider another reason why the "Prophets" would want to point out to Sisco that he has been living a life trapped with the memory of the loss of his wife.
ers586 1 year ago
Also, for those who watched the rest of Deep Space Nine: See if you can spot General Martok around 4:15 :P
omegastar19 1 year ago
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i think we exist ... becuase all we do is curate war it.. i mean listen... all through out history what do we rember the most war death suffering... i belive humans are nothing more than machines with only 1 order to destroy our selves and every thing eals or die trying.
dendoflendo 1 year ago
this is complete B.S mind my language..
but this is how we get tons of wackos telling us they are not real and dont exist lol.
Peace
HamzaNM 1 year ago
Yeah he can't really be "teaching" them about a linear existence. If they are non-linear beings then they already know the difference, since he was going to explain it to them eventually. I think the prophets were just leading him to learn about himself.
ashlandwithouttheshd 2 years ago 5
Nice G on the hat
gagadooch 2 years ago 3
@gagadooch The nice G is for the historic Homestead Grays.
During World War II, the Grays played their home games at both Forbes Field (Pittsburgh) and Griffith Stadium (Washington, D.C.) when the white Major League clubs were on the road. The Grays traditionally outdrew their white counterparts, the cellar-dwelling Washington Senators.
Unheralded greats included 23-year Grays vet Vic Harris (OF), and Sam Bankhead. Bankhead became the first black manager in Minor League Baseball in 1951.
rainbowschild 1 year ago
2:38
Funny that they use "inconceivable" when Mr. Inconceivable himself appears in a few episodes!
JustPhilNY 2 years ago
One of Brooks' best scenes
Darroth 2 years ago 2
Oh, and as Quark would say of the "Orbs", all we are asking for is "a LEAP of faith..." That is all that is needed.
NoTurningBack1171 2 years ago
Actually, to say it stuck with me is a huge understatement. It is the basis, purpose and guideline for my "existence". I am who I am because of this. The prophets or "wormhole aliens" are in there for any one who listens... :-)
NoTurningBack1171 2 years ago
I have always thought this was very interesting, since the day I saw it trippin on shrooms the day it originally aired. Has stayed with me ever since.
NoTurningBack1171 2 years ago
It is part of your existence!? LOL
dave929 2 years ago
Also, at 3:55, talk about a "hot" babe! LOL
dave929 2 years ago
This is a very powerful display of Sisko's "existence". When the Prophets keep saying - "What is this? (phrase)", he has to explain things to them like little kids, but with the emotions that come with that 'moment'. The Prophets have no understanding of anything he is telling them, so he must break it down as best he can. And, whenever I see him with the baseball, I look on my desk, as I have a ball he signed at a convention.
dave929 2 years ago
In a sense, the prophet's questioning leads Sisko to learn things for himself by forcing him to break it down to the basics.
omegastar19 2 years ago
The "prophet" - the silent voice within to which most of the time we don`t dare to listen to.
Buddha7575 2 years ago
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dave929 2 years ago
I'm gonna get drunk...
UnwashedAnus 3 years ago
My favorite episode of all the Star Trek series. Well written with memorable scenes as the Prophets and Sisko come to an understanding of time, when Sisko finally understands that consciously he is dwelling in the past and his relationship with his wife, Jennifer, especially on the day of her expiration, while simultaneously existing in the present, is deeply moving. There is only the "now".
valtrus 3 years ago 3
And the irony is that "Q" shows up in an episode. So, from 'child-like' Prophets whom he has to "teach" to an all-knowing 'Q' who acts like Sisko is a little kid. LOL
dave929 2 years ago
Thanks for posting this. The scenes from "Emissary" where Sisko tries to explain what linear existence is to the Wormhole Beings is a great philosophical exercise in not living in the past, as he discovers when he keeps reliving his wife's death.
AriesTRam 3 years ago 5
The road behind has been travelled. The road ahead is not yet there. We can only travel on the road below our feet.
Realizing this, each step becomes important. Each step counts. The way becomes the goal.
Buddha7575 3 years ago 3
No different than Data always twitching and going thru his subprocessers when he hears a word for the first time that he is unfamiliar with. It is a bit repetitive in this episode, but it's like when a kid keeping repeating "But why?"
dave929 3 years ago
the very first episode
omegastar19 3 years ago
Thanks guys, I have yet to get into DS9 yet. But hear you me, I will.
PaulTurnerFest 3 years ago
Emissary
krysalist 4 years ago 2
A brilliant scene. Does anyone remember the episode where Quark explains the Rules of Acquisition to the Prophets? One of the funniest excerpts from the entire series.
ers586 4 years ago 2
Very well done sequence. I liked the way the Prophets showed Sisko he never got over his wife's death.
crouteru 5 years ago 11
star trek is closer 2 reality than most of us think
marciano79 5 years ago 9
Great video. I really liked this sequence from the first episode of "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine". I really like how Ben tries to explain the concept of linear time to beings who have no concept of it. The breakthrough he made when he figured out how to use baseball in his explanation was well down, as was his breakdown when he realized that human memories aren't linear. This sequence certainly set the stage for the rest of the series that followed. Thanks for uploading.
ffreed 5 years ago
You're welcome. Mind that not only our memory isn't linear but our whole existence.
Life is like a circle and as such without cause and effect. It's like like running around the globe - you won't end up anywhere, but all roads lead back to the point where your started - yourself.
Without c&e, there is no time. Your life exists only in THIS moment.
Buddha7575 5 years ago
Your life does exist only in this moment, but to deny cause and effect is to deny that past experiences have any bearing on who you are now, and who you will become. I too used to follow zen. There is a certain peace, but you have to deny truth to walk the razor's path. Cause and effect are integral to not only the physical realm but spiritual as well.
horndogrob 4 years ago
Well, the idea, I think, is to not let your "self" get involved in whatever you do, yet try to be the best you know you can be.
It's like playing a game that takes 8 rounds to win and making each round a game in itself. While you take each round seriously you also know its only a game that "you" can neither win nor loose.
Buddha7575 4 years ago
@Buddha7575 It is not 8 rounds, it is 9 perfect innings. ;-) But sometimes it is 8 and a half - and - if it rains, and the game has completed the top half of the 5th inning and the home team is ahead, the game can be deemed an official game. The home team is declared the winner, and the game officially counts in standings.
rainbowschild 1 year ago