Carl Reinecke (1824-1910): Mozart - Piano Concerto in D K.537 - Larghetto

[mirkojorgovic]

Brahms born in year 1833

[peudargent]

@d60944: Of course -the oldest composer, not the oldest recording! By the way: I just received an e-mail by his great-grand-son. How times change...

[peudargent]

Thanks for sharing this! I am writing an article about Reinecke for a german music magzine right now, that's why I stumbled into this. One question: If this Welte-recording is from 1905, when was his first recording? You say, that he was the oldest pianist to commit any performance to a recording. was it even before - let's say - Brahms in 1889?

[d60944]

@peudargent Reinekce's only recordings are piano rolls, and as far as I know, the first of these are the 1905/06 ones for Welte. A full rollography for Reinecke can be found by googling. My phrase means that Reinecke was the "oldest" as in born before anyone else, to leave behind some kind of recorded performance (no-one born before him left us anything)... Well, unless the anonymous pianists on the 1888 Mendelssohn and Sullivan Edison cylinders were in fact pensioners by then :-)

[wks1978]

@peudargent To be perfectly honest, there was no type of permanent recording before 1888 when Edison perfected his paraffine wax cylinders.

Even so, very few musical performances were recorded before 1895 and those that survive have physically degraded since then as the wax that they were made from is prone to biological decay.

As far as reproducing pianos go, the earliest machines that were capable of faithfully recording what was played into them date from around 1900.

[tuxedomoon]

Actually this is more close to the baroque style of playing that in the romantic as we see it today

[JoeTownley]

Remember how your piano teacher would whack your fingers with a ruler if you did not keep your hands together? I'll bet Reinecke's fingers were in shreds after his lessons, judging from this recording. Or was this just the style of piano playing in the Romantic Period? It'd have drove me nuts to listen to the LH play before the RH that many times, or are those just rolls?

[wks1978]

@JoeTownley I admit I'm not a pianist, but I believe the intentional spread between the 2 hands is written about as far back as bach's time and earlier

[d60944]

@JoeTownley What you are hearing is a fundamental part of keyboard playing technique prior to around 1920. It is not an mistake, nor a flaw in the roll. It became unfashionable in the 20th century.

[JoeTownley]

@d60944 Very interesting. Thank you for that info, D. I can see why it fell out of fashion. It's irritating as hell.

[d60944]

@JoeTownley Only to ears not used to it!

[marcxopoco]

@JoeTownley doesn't know that Reinecke is making a transcription of the orchetral score here combined with the piano part.

Phony 'critic' Joe doesn't have a clue what that means.

Reinecke was the conductor of the Gewandhaus Orchestra for 35 years. He was Mendelssohn's successor there.

Joe could give Reinecke lessons.

LOL

[acortot]

GOD

[lovesGenet]

i cant believe we have a n actual rec of this man.Taneyev and Pabst too. Geese, Funny type of Mozart suited his day.what an adventure these early recs are. Landowska we have in allof this.Amazing thing is it sounds like opera music so maybe the 19th cent felt some things that were really quite good!

[SergioFloresa]

Thanks for this recording..... its really interesting to listen to a Mozart recording with this quality..... really good.....

[EuropeanArchive]

He beats Saint-Sains as earliest born composer recorded!

[mammothmouse1959]

Amazing...

[givemetime123]

C'est fantastique, je ne savais pas qu'il existait des enregistrements de ce compositeur

Merci pour la "vidéo"

[sfkcbf]

Your historical adventures through recordings and piano roles could be exceeded only through the use of a time machine to hear the performers live.  Very interesting. Thank you.