shots from the front... Oswald not the "lone assassin" = conspiracy. who were the conspirators? politically connected folks in the white house and justice dept., and c.i.a.
when the cia went to robt mahue as a go between to hire the mafia for a "hit" on castro -jfk was doomed. you just can't have that kind of powerful force with unlimited funds to set up assassinations and expect the operation not to target their enemy jfk. mafioso johnnie roselli was hooked up with cia people like david morales and other cia ops guys who hated kennedy. the fact that the patsy was able to be sold as pro-castro and then killed in the police station - jfk also pro castro- think
It amuses me that most conspiracy goof balls weren't even born when this happened. there was no conspiracy. why is this such a big deal to these people? In life there is tragedy without reason. being paranoid won't change that. Oh, I give up, I'm going to tell you the truth. there was a conspiracy. It involved everyone in the u.s. but kennedy and his wife. I was in on it, so were my parents and all the teachers at my school, so were your parents. Kennedy was about to outlaw cheese.
@zyxquark People are not goof balls just because they believe there was a conspiracy whether they were born or not at that time. Their time of birth is beside the point. Nor does it mean they are paranoid. There are too many variables involved. Plus, you are grossly underestimating JFK's murder. It had serious implications to this day and beyond. If you believe Oswald is guilty, I don't think you are "goofy". If that is your opinion,fine. But you haven't grabbed the perpsective of it.
What I have always found interesting is that Robert "Tosh" Plumlee, who was a CIA pilot, admits to flying Johnny Roselli into Dallas the morning of the assassination on a MATS (Military Air Transport Service) flight. One of the mafia heads being flown into Dallas on the morning of the assassination on a private government military flight? Smells like conspiracy spirit to me
@ElevenMileRecords I think the fact that he admitted it and is, to this day, still in the habit of breathing, kind of takes the air out of his story. By the way, he also claimed that he had to fly in Roselli because Roselli was coming in to abort the assassination mission. Don't you think a phone call would have sufficed, if that were truly the case? Mind you, I'm not saying there was no plot, or that Roselli was not a part of it, I think he was, but this story sounds a little too fishy to me.
what some people heard were echos and Dealey Plaza is an ideal environment for echos. Keep in mind that Harold Norman heard three shots from above when he watched the motorcade from the 5th floor of the TSBD and he heard three "hulls" hit the floor. He says the three shots were evenly spaced. Earwitness testimony differs on total shots fired, location of the shots and the spacing of each shot. That's why we rely on physical evidence to establish the number of shots and their location.
@GarryHarriman IF the last two shots were close together as some people have reported, there is a way the two shots could have been fired from the same bolt action rifle. The effect is called a "hangfire". There is a video on YouTube by mag30 where he fires a Mannlicher (JFK 6.5 Mannlicher Carcano rifle myths) and you can see and hear for yourself the "hangfire". You can also see how quickly a M/C can be fired and with accuracy. Not everyone in Dealey heard the shots in the same pattern. I think
@couchdr Blaine wasn't there-he was in Austin. he wrote his book because of my letter to his buddy Clint Hill and my research. The truth hurts: JFK did not order the agents off his limo
TrueNovic, read "The Kennedy Detail" by the agent that was there, Gerald Blaine. It is a great read, and debunks a lot of myths that have been produced by this cottage industry of people that believe the agents failed or were in on the conspiracy. It offers first hand accounts by all of the agents, and provides information that may make a lot of the conspiracy buffs unhappy.
@couchdr the problem is vince palamara has dumbed os many people down on this topic, that its always worthless to try and reason with the nuts. they get all of their info from that goofly clown palamara and much of it is just silly bullcrap.
palamara is the clown who tried to claim agents were ordered off the bumper at the airport. there were rarely if ever agents on the bumpers at airposts, but the fraud doesn't tell you that. its all about making a name for goodball vince palamara
@couchdr I just finished the book by Blaine. I think it finally answers alot of the questions people may have had over the years. For me, I couldn't put the book down. A true, inside look at the incredible lives of the men that helped keep or country safe by protecting the man that was a huge piece of that pie.
@couchdr Most of us don't need to read Blaine's book -- we can see films & photos of the agents' actions -- and their glaring mystifiying inaction in Dallas.
All of the allegations against the agents are false, and people should read history and first hand accounts first. There was no alcohol served at the Cellar, it was only a coffee house. You people that disparage these agents don't know what you are talking about and just sound ignorant. If you read the real history by the people that were there you would feel ashamed.
@couchdr Can you site the source that says it was a "coffee house" open from night until the morning hours that didn't serve alcohol beverages at all. Help us out with that. Give us a source. Somehow, I think you won't be able to.
@TheAmbassador11 The sound wave from a Carcano, supposedly used to Kill JFK is 150 decibels, maybe one of the loudest rifles ever. During the assassination the SS agents appear to stand around doing nothing to protect JFK. They might have been drinking to manufacture an alibi for their actions the next day - that they were too hungover to act quickly.
@couchdr The SS's job is to protect the president. "Disparage"? What are you talking about? They did not protect the president. You are the one that should be "ashamed". You are justifying the SS's inaction. There was NO justification for them watching JFK die. If you are a JFK "hater" just say so.
@TheAmbassador11 I am willing to admit that I detest the Kennedys, but this video is a GROSS misrepresentation of the facts and the known verifiable events. Conspiracy folks have never produced one shred of verifiable, credible, physical evidence to support their fairytale conclusions.
@BlueWolfe38 I am willing to admit that I had sex with your prostitute mother in the alley, but she forced me into it by hitting me on the head with her rented dildo. Sorry to say bluewolfie, but your bitch mom was ugly.
@MysteryDisappearance Greer slowed the car to turn and look at Kennedy, because he heard Connally say, "Oh, no, no, no!" and "My God, they're going to kill us all!" While Greer looked at JFK, the President's head exploded, Greer then sped away, but it was too late.
@MysteryDisappearance because he was in on the plot and took his signal from umbrella man to stop so JFK could take 2 head shots from 2 seperate shooters
Greer took his signal from umbrella man and slowed to an absolute stop so JFK could get blasted 2 times in the head by 2 seperate shooters. JFK was first hit in the throat by the shooter on the grassy knoll. next JFK was shot in the chest or back and slumps forward and to the side towards Mrs kennedy. Greer slowed to an absolute stop so JFK could take the head shots 2 of which hit him almost at once.
@TheDudleyheathens Henry Rybka,who was ordered by Emory Roberts to stay behind at Love Field.Watch the video "Secret Service Standown" here on youtube and see for yourself.
I say that if Greer and Kellerman are part of some nefarious conspiracy to assassinate Kennedy and frame some poor shmuck with a $12.95 WWII surplus Italian army rifle, and if this plot has remained unexposed and its plotters unindicted for going on 47 years -- well, heck, maybe they SHOULD be running the country. They seem pretty competent to me. . .
why dont any of the witnesses who saw the hole in the back of the head mention the fact that his skin was blown off on right front of his head as you can clearly see on the zapruder film after final shot, or is the zapruder film complete bullshit.
@backthisway Indeed Kellerman claimed JFK gasped, "My God! I'm hit!" WR Commission asked how he was so sure (knowing if JFKs' windpipe had been ripped by a bullet he would have been unable to talk). Kellerman replied that "there was only one man from Boston in the rear seat and accents carry well." Kellerman also stated he saw JFK reach for his back after the first shot. So either he was lying or was a terrible witness. Warren Commission dismissed his observations.
greer literally brought the car to a stop after jfk got hit in th neck. he turned around instead of punching it out of the ambush site. seconds later the head shot- then greer and kellerman ducked down and away they went. when you stop a motorcade you weaken security at that point. the lead car if I am correct with cheif curry sheriff decker braked which made greer also brake. the set up was all bases covered. it's kinda of bad taste greer to be smiling as he holds up a picture of jfk .
@DKetch1966 RIght.And check out the statement of ER nurse Patricia Hutton,for some reason it was "Top Secret" for decades.She saw a HUGE EXIT wound in the REAR also.And saw TWO ENTRANCE wounds in the FRONT.
greeer stopped the car in the kill zone before jfk head shot -then took off -hiil reacting ran up to limo- after the head shot. greer braked when jfk first got hit -turned around- kill shot came in then he tookl off. they guy fucked up or he was at the bar the night before getting drunk-ft. worth cellar nightclub.
Let's keep in mind that the Secret Service does not technically work for the President, or for Presidential candidates. They are the treasury police, under the command of the Secretary of the Treasury, who was Douglas Dillon at the time of the JFK execution. Dillon MUST be the prime suspect in stripping away JFK's security, and delivering an exposed President to the kill zone on Elm Street.
@liability69 Dillon was a 'great' friend of President Kennedy. He made have been the boss but clearly wasn't in charge of the detail..Gerald Behn was the lead agent..who happen to take a vacation for the first time in 3 years.
@liability69 Dillon left LBJ's white house to return back to his father's Bnaking firm in 1965. Gerald Behn put the his 3rd string team leader Kellerman to take care of the President. I think the assassination would have been different if Behn was on that trip.
@liability69 Following the execution LBJ appointed Dillon as member of Special Committee to study the Warren Report. Dillon later served as Chairman of the Rockefeller Foundation (former CIA director William Colby, who was perhaps the ONLY DCI ever to speak frankly with Congressional investigators in secret session, when asked about the JFK assassination said that the shooter teams in Dallas took orders from the Rockefellers). Dillon was named Undersecretary of State, reviewing CIA activities.
JFK's usual driver Thomas Shipman died on 10-14-63 of a "heart attack".The driver of the follow up car Mr Kellerman told Vince Palamara that Emory Roberts told agents to "stay put" during the shooting.Roberts also ordered agent Henry Rybka to stay behind at Love Field.That incident is on film for all to see as well.
William Greer died on 23rd February, 1985. His son, Richard Greer, was interviewed in 1991. When asked, "What did your father think of JFK," Richard did not respond the first time. When asked a second time, he responded: "Well, we're Methodists... and JFK was Catholic..."
in painc? think about what you are saying. if you hear shots are you going to stop and look and see where they are coming from if the car you are in is being shot at? i dont think so. this men are trained to put the petal to the metal in cases like this. its not like he is a everyday person. makes you think twice about if he was innocent.
like you know exactly how you are going to react when under fire when you have never been in that situation before. he was just a chaffeur. even trained soldiers can freeze in action. do you think they all act like john wayne the first time under fire. do you think the guy is going to take off at high speed every time he hears a bang and look like a prat if he then finds out later the sound wasnt gunfire. he had a perfectly natural reaction which is to turn round and get a visual confirmation.
think about what you are saying...he worked for the SECERT SERVICE. He did not receive training how just to be good drive. he was taught how to drive the US PRESIDENT in any situation. you dont think they taught him how to drive if the car us under fire ? And to be honest , yes i have been at a location where shot rang out.. when the first shot was heard...i didnt stop and see where it was coming from...we put the petal to the metal and drove off.
Greer was assigned to drive the presidential car in the motorcade Dallas. Several witnesses said that Greer stopped the car after the first shot was fired.This included Jean Hill, who was the closest witness to the car when Kennedy was hot: According to Hill "the motorcade came to almost a halt at the time the shots rang out".
i know all this stuff, not sure why you are throwing a bunch of quotes from another web site on here. if you look at my comment i say he hit the brake pedal by mistake
Again !!! read what you are typing. Mistake? there was far to much going on for that to be a mistake.he is Secert Service they know what guns sound like. just common knowledge would tell you to not stop. but this guys are Secert Service let me remind you. So many witnesses have stated the motorcade came to a halt. not hit the break ...but halt ( meaning stop). that should have never happen. it was done for a reason. think about it.
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James Chaney (one of the four Presidential motorcyclists) - stated that the limousine "after the shooting, from the time the first shot rang out, the car stopped completely, pulled to the left and stopped." Mary Woodward, a journalist with the Dallas Morning News wrote: "Instead of speeding up the car, the car came to a halt... after the first shot".
Ralph Yarborough, who was riding w/LBJ , was critical of the actions of Greer:"When the noise of the shot was heard, the motorcade slowed to what seemed to me a complete stop.After the third shot was fired, but only after the third shot was fired, the cavalcade speeded up, gained speed rapidly, and roared away to the Parkland Hospital.The cars all stopped.'I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings but for the protection of future Presidents, they should be trained to take off when a shot is fired"
Hey HelmerReenberg, I liked your video, it is very unfortunate, the events of 11/22/63. Agent Greer actual lived 25 miles from where I live.
It is not shocking to know that the agents were drinking the night before the assassination, it was the flamboyant 60s. I am not one of these conspiracy theorists. I think the head shot came from behind, JFK was leaned over, because of his back brace, this created an odd angles for the neck. The natural reflexes caused his head to go back.
I feel so sorry for Hill. He was running to the limosine to do his job and take the fatal bullet for Kennedy, and got there too late. In interviews, he was very emotional about it, and felt he had failed in his duty. Ironically, he was the only agent who behaved exactly as he should have that day.
I feel really sorry for Greer too. If he had speeded up, the president might have been saved, and I'm sure he knew it.
Nearly all the witnesses said that at least two shots were very close together. Lone gunman theorists like Posner and Bugliosi both claimed that there were three shots: First at Z160, second at Z223/224 and the final shot at Z313. But between Z223/224 and Z313 are at least 5 seconds. This theory simply doesn´t fit the eyewitness testimony.
In the Zapruder film it doesnt look like Kellerman turns around at any point.Greer turns around and watches JFK get shot and only speeds up AFTER he is hit.Emory Roberts was in charge or the follow up car and ordered agents to stay put during the shooting.Roberts was a good buddy of LBJ.
At two minutes in above film Kellerman describes last flurry of shots as two shots, BANG-BANG. He also says it is like a jet breaking the sound barrier.
These describtions ARE THE SMOKING GUN that everyone is looking for. Analyzing the last two shots leads finally to the conspirators.
How could a serious investigation miss that the last two shots were BANG-BANG, so many witnesses described shots just that way.
The answer is: Important people were involved. But first, look @BANG-BANG.
In my video UNDERSTANDING THE KENNEDY ASSASSINATION, I show what happened with the last TWO SHOTS:
Z313, hit JFK in head, knocked him back and to the left
Z325, shot misses JFK's head, it hits Connally in the back and drives him forward violently, he hits the seat and is pulled over, all in a split second.
Connally's head snaps DOWNWARD faster than he could have moved @Z325, the exact moment the bullet hits him in the back.
Okay...you are making it a point to describe drinking the night before, criticizing them for their actions the next day, and,in spite of the fact that they were drinking, you use their statements about the shots that were fired, etc. You can't have it both ways. If they were too drunk/hungover to do their jobs, they were too drunk/hungover to seriously take their statements as to what happened, as fact, as well.
Who arranged the drinking session for the Secret Service the night before the assassination? Who knows? What is known is that Ruby was a friend of the night club owner. There is even a possibility that Ruby was there.
Along with 'double bangs' everyone seemed to mention firecrackers.Were there indeed firecrackers let off to confuse and divert
people there? Also many witnesss spoke of the first shot as a 'pop' sound. Is there any possibility that the first shot was some low calibre weapon or even an airgun?Was the 'pop' a signal or sort of timing shot to allow others to follow on cue?
Very interesting. There seems to be an enormous amount of "double bang" witnesses, another brilliant documentation of the unbelievably faulty conclusions of the Warren Comission.
@Mobilecheese I have always found it interesting that an outfit like the Warren Commission, some time well after the fact. Told people who were in the car's and on the street, what they really seen and heard., and that's just the ones they were forced to deal with. Not to mention the many they refused to acknowledge . And that's still all they bring to the table today. Now they make cartoons and, coffee table size books, simply defending what was obviously then and more so today. The Unspeakable
There is a reason why Greer slowed the limo and why Hill jumped from the running board just prior to the headshot at 312-313. They were both reacting to the shock wave of a near miss that went on to strike the pavement on Main St, where it shattered, sending a chunk of lead to strike the curb and a piece of debris to nick Tague.
he was driving into an ambush - which, of course,he was.Poor Greer was in floods of tears later when he met Jackie in the Hospital.He blamed himself and kept saying:
"I'm so sorry Mrs Kennedy. I'm so sorry.If only I had speeded up...if only I had speeded up..." Greer is NOT to blame.
shots from the front... Oswald not the "lone assassin" = conspiracy. who were the conspirators? politically connected folks in the white house and justice dept., and c.i.a.
bendigger0 4 weeks ago
helmer, you are the champ..
reefergladness 1 month ago
when the cia went to robt mahue as a go between to hire the mafia for a "hit" on castro -jfk was doomed. you just can't have that kind of powerful force with unlimited funds to set up assassinations and expect the operation not to target their enemy jfk. mafioso johnnie roselli was hooked up with cia people like david morales and other cia ops guys who hated kennedy. the fact that the patsy was able to be sold as pro-castro and then killed in the police station - jfk also pro castro- think
larrywheels 1 month ago
It amuses me that most conspiracy goof balls weren't even born when this happened. there was no conspiracy. why is this such a big deal to these people? In life there is tragedy without reason. being paranoid won't change that. Oh, I give up, I'm going to tell you the truth. there was a conspiracy. It involved everyone in the u.s. but kennedy and his wife. I was in on it, so were my parents and all the teachers at my school, so were your parents. Kennedy was about to outlaw cheese.
zyxquark 2 months ago
@zyxquark I used to believe there was no conspiracy.... until I read the Warren report.
draoi99 1 month ago
@zyxquark Get a brain!
tregoj1 1 month ago
@zyxquark People are not goof balls just because they believe there was a conspiracy whether they were born or not at that time. Their time of birth is beside the point. Nor does it mean they are paranoid. There are too many variables involved. Plus, you are grossly underestimating JFK's murder. It had serious implications to this day and beyond. If you believe Oswald is guilty, I don't think you are "goofy". If that is your opinion,fine. But you haven't grabbed the perpsective of it.
TheAmbassador11 1 month ago
GOOD JOB SECRET SERVICE AGENTS! NOT!
greymoose1000 3 months ago
Kennedy never said "My God, I'm hit!" The first bullet tore through his throat and left him unable to speak. Connolly was the one saying "My God ..."
Nominay 3 months ago
watch the nix film, you can see the break lights come on a few times before the headshot! frame by frame, the break lights are clearly on
lucky44124 4 months ago
This Evil LBJ statement WE believe refers to the murder of JFK
"It is the Melancholy law of human societies to be compeled sometimes to chose a great evil in order to ward off a greater evil"
YOU want to see a guilty MAN? check this out , = LBJ coments on JFK assasination 1969.wmv
cruisersism 5 months ago
Another useless re hash of distracting info.
paul8kangas 7 months ago
We can prove there were 5 shots fired by Hunt, Sturgis & Posada,
using German Mausers.
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paul8kangas 7 months ago
What I have always found interesting is that Robert "Tosh" Plumlee, who was a CIA pilot, admits to flying Johnny Roselli into Dallas the morning of the assassination on a MATS (Military Air Transport Service) flight. One of the mafia heads being flown into Dallas on the morning of the assassination on a private government military flight? Smells like conspiracy spirit to me
ElevenMileRecords 9 months ago
@ElevenMileRecords I think the fact that he admitted it and is, to this day, still in the habit of breathing, kind of takes the air out of his story. By the way, he also claimed that he had to fly in Roselli because Roselli was coming in to abort the assassination mission. Don't you think a phone call would have sufficed, if that were truly the case? Mind you, I'm not saying there was no plot, or that Roselli was not a part of it, I think he was, but this story sounds a little too fishy to me.
deweycheethamandhowe 8 months ago
what some people heard were echos and Dealey Plaza is an ideal environment for echos. Keep in mind that Harold Norman heard three shots from above when he watched the motorcade from the 5th floor of the TSBD and he heard three "hulls" hit the floor. He says the three shots were evenly spaced. Earwitness testimony differs on total shots fired, location of the shots and the spacing of each shot. That's why we rely on physical evidence to establish the number of shots and their location.
autoad 9 months ago
@GarryHarriman IF the last two shots were close together as some people have reported, there is a way the two shots could have been fired from the same bolt action rifle. The effect is called a "hangfire". There is a video on YouTube by mag30 where he fires a Mannlicher (JFK 6.5 Mannlicher Carcano rifle myths) and you can see and hear for yourself the "hangfire". You can also see how quickly a M/C can be fired and with accuracy. Not everyone in Dealey heard the shots in the same pattern. I think
autoad 9 months ago
You conspiracists need to get a life!
Ray3645 11 months ago
@Ray3645 Or take their own.
tryithere 9 months ago
@tryithere You and Ray3645 are on the defensive,,,
TheAmbassador11 3 weeks ago
@TheAmbassador11 And you're on drugs.
tryithere 3 weeks ago
Gerald Blaine was not in Austin: that is correct
KennedyDetailJFK 1 year ago
@couchdr Blaine wasn't there-he was in Austin. he wrote his book because of my letter to his buddy Clint Hill and my research. The truth hurts: JFK did not order the agents off his limo
VincePalamara 1 year ago 10
@VincePalamara Who did?
tregoj1 1 month ago
45arther=psycho stalker of vince palamara lol ! :)
VincePalamara 1 year ago 12
TrueNovic, read "The Kennedy Detail" by the agent that was there, Gerald Blaine. It is a great read, and debunks a lot of myths that have been produced by this cottage industry of people that believe the agents failed or were in on the conspiracy. It offers first hand accounts by all of the agents, and provides information that may make a lot of the conspiracy buffs unhappy.
couchdr 1 year ago
@couchdr the problem is vince palamara has dumbed os many people down on this topic, that its always worthless to try and reason with the nuts. they get all of their info from that goofly clown palamara and much of it is just silly bullcrap.
palamara is the clown who tried to claim agents were ordered off the bumper at the airport. there were rarely if ever agents on the bumpers at airposts, but the fraud doesn't tell you that. its all about making a name for goodball vince palamara
45arther 1 year ago
@45arther Hi again Thomas Lowery (aka cdddraftsman & many other aliases).
You silly piece of shit. Did you remember to wipe off your moms dildo the last time you used it?
oIdmac1 1 year ago
@couchdr I just finished the book by Blaine. I think it finally answers alot of the questions people may have had over the years. For me, I couldn't put the book down. A true, inside look at the incredible lives of the men that helped keep or country safe by protecting the man that was a huge piece of that pie.
sphmusak 1 year ago
@sphmusak ?? "protecting the man" Hell, they did a lousy job at that... if they really wanted to protect him!
marcostar57 11 months ago
@couchdr Most of us don't need to read Blaine's book -- we can see films & photos of the agents' actions -- and their glaring mystifiying inaction in Dallas.
marcostar57 11 months ago
@couchdr Yes, it makes people unhappy because the SS were negligent in their duties..
TheAmbassador11 3 weeks ago
what's that photo of @ 3.00? never seen that one before..
reefergladness 1 year ago
All of the allegations against the agents are false, and people should read history and first hand accounts first. There was no alcohol served at the Cellar, it was only a coffee house. You people that disparage these agents don't know what you are talking about and just sound ignorant. If you read the real history by the people that were there you would feel ashamed.
couchdr 1 year ago
@couchdr Can you site the source that says it was a "coffee house" open from night until the morning hours that didn't serve alcohol beverages at all. Help us out with that. Give us a source. Somehow, I think you won't be able to.
TrueNovice 1 year ago
@TrueNovice Strange how JFK's body guards were drinking that night but not LBJ's.
TheAmbassador11 3 weeks ago
@TheAmbassador11 The sound wave from a Carcano, supposedly used to Kill JFK is 150 decibels, maybe one of the loudest rifles ever. During the assassination the SS agents appear to stand around doing nothing to protect JFK. They might have been drinking to manufacture an alibi for their actions the next day - that they were too hungover to act quickly.
TrueNovice 2 weeks ago
@couchdr The SS's job is to protect the president. "Disparage"? What are you talking about? They did not protect the president. You are the one that should be "ashamed". You are justifying the SS's inaction. There was NO justification for them watching JFK die. If you are a JFK "hater" just say so.
TheAmbassador11 3 weeks ago
@TheAmbassador11 I am willing to admit that I detest the Kennedys, but this video is a GROSS misrepresentation of the facts and the known verifiable events. Conspiracy folks have never produced one shred of verifiable, credible, physical evidence to support their fairytale conclusions.
BlueWolfe38 3 days ago
@BlueWolfe38 I am willing to admit that I had sex with your prostitute mother in the alley, but she forced me into it by hitting me on the head with her rented dildo. Sorry to say bluewolfie, but your bitch mom was ugly.
arther1046 1 day ago
HOWS BOUT
THAT EMORY ROBERTS GUY?
daveband 1 year ago
They all should of been tried for treason...out drinking till 5 am the morning of protecting the President....howd that work out for you?
spm1021 1 year ago
@MysteryDisappearance Greer slowed the car to turn and look at Kennedy, because he heard Connally say, "Oh, no, no, no!" and "My God, they're going to kill us all!" While Greer looked at JFK, the President's head exploded, Greer then sped away, but it was too late.
SecretService80 1 year ago
@MysteryDisappearance because he was in on the plot and took his signal from umbrella man to stop so JFK could take 2 head shots from 2 seperate shooters
aburke673 1 year ago
@aburke673
time for your medication i think bud!!
grettoz 1 year ago
@grettoz time for you to go back to sleep sheeple. bahhhhhhh
aburke673 1 year ago
@aburke673
matrons waiting for you!!
grettoz 1 year ago
@grettoz I know it rocks your little security to believe the world created by men is not good but evil. only God and his creation is all good.
aburke673 1 year ago
@aburke673
matrons got your bed ready, she,ll read you a story!!
grettoz 1 year ago
Greer took his signal from umbrella man and slowed to an absolute stop so JFK could get blasted 2 times in the head by 2 seperate shooters. JFK was first hit in the throat by the shooter on the grassy knoll. next JFK was shot in the chest or back and slumps forward and to the side towards Mrs kennedy. Greer slowed to an absolute stop so JFK could take the head shots 2 of which hit him almost at once.
aburke673 1 year ago
Doble bang? The sound of the shot and the sound of the bullet striking JFK's skull.
Case closed.
IwshIcldstrtover 1 year ago
@IwshIcldstrtover LOL YEAH RIGHT
MOXWELLDIAMOND 1 year ago
@MOXWELLDIAMOND Have you ever fired a carcano into an object? That is exactly the sound produced.
IwshIcldstrtover 1 year ago
which agent was resonsible for kennedy?
TheDudleyheathens 1 year ago
@TheDudleyheathens Henry Rybka,who was ordered by Emory Roberts to stay behind at Love Field.Watch the video "Secret Service Standown" here on youtube and see for yourself.
themeaningoflife38 1 year ago
@TheDudleyheathens Everyone in the "follow up" car and the two in the front seat of the presidential limo.
TheAmbassador11 3 weeks ago
@TheDudleyheathens Only one moved and that was Clint Hill and he was responsible for Jackie Kennedy.
TheAmbassador11 3 weeks ago
I say that if Greer and Kellerman are part of some nefarious conspiracy to assassinate Kennedy and frame some poor shmuck with a $12.95 WWII surplus Italian army rifle, and if this plot has remained unexposed and its plotters unindicted for going on 47 years -- well, heck, maybe they SHOULD be running the country. They seem pretty competent to me. . .
billybagbom 1 year ago
why dont any of the witnesses who saw the hole in the back of the head mention the fact that his skin was blown off on right front of his head as you can clearly see on the zapruder film after final shot, or is the zapruder film complete bullshit.
joiganja 1 year ago
1:26 Did Kellerman really claim he heard the president say something ?
backthisway 1 year ago
@backthisway Indeed Kellerman claimed JFK gasped, "My God! I'm hit!" WR Commission asked how he was so sure (knowing if JFKs' windpipe had been ripped by a bullet he would have been unable to talk). Kellerman replied that "there was only one man from Boston in the rear seat and accents carry well." Kellerman also stated he saw JFK reach for his back after the first shot. So either he was lying or was a terrible witness. Warren Commission dismissed his observations.
DKetch1966 1 year ago
greer literally brought the car to a stop after jfk got hit in th neck. he turned around instead of punching it out of the ambush site. seconds later the head shot- then greer and kellerman ducked down and away they went. when you stop a motorcade you weaken security at that point. the lead car if I am correct with cheif curry sheriff decker braked which made greer also brake. the set up was all bases covered. it's kinda of bad taste greer to be smiling as he holds up a picture of jfk .
larrywheels 1 year ago
wow clint hill saw an EXIT wound in the REAR of JFK's head,just like EVERY doctor and nurse at parkland hospital.
themeaningoflife38 1 year ago
@themeaningoflife38 Don't forget Jackie and numerous other people who saw the same thing
DKetch1966 1 year ago
@DKetch1966 RIght.And check out the statement of ER nurse Patricia Hutton,for some reason it was "Top Secret" for decades.She saw a HUGE EXIT wound in the REAR also.And saw TWO ENTRANCE wounds in the FRONT.
themeaningoflife38 1 year ago
greeer stopped the car in the kill zone before jfk head shot -then took off -hiil reacting ran up to limo- after the head shot. greer braked when jfk first got hit -turned around- kill shot came in then he tookl off. they guy fucked up or he was at the bar the night before getting drunk-ft. worth cellar nightclub.
larrywheels 1 year ago
Let's keep in mind that the Secret Service does not technically work for the President, or for Presidential candidates. They are the treasury police, under the command of the Secretary of the Treasury, who was Douglas Dillon at the time of the JFK execution. Dillon MUST be the prime suspect in stripping away JFK's security, and delivering an exposed President to the kill zone on Elm Street.
liability69 1 year ago
@liability69 Dillon was a 'great' friend of President Kennedy. He made have been the boss but clearly wasn't in charge of the detail..Gerald Behn was the lead agent..who happen to take a vacation for the first time in 3 years.
norr4636 1 year ago
@liability69 Dillon left LBJ's white house to return back to his father's Bnaking firm in 1965. Gerald Behn put the his 3rd string team leader Kellerman to take care of the President. I think the assassination would have been different if Behn was on that trip.
norr4636 1 year ago
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liability69 1 year ago
@liability69 Following the execution LBJ appointed Dillon as member of Special Committee to study the Warren Report. Dillon later served as Chairman of the Rockefeller Foundation (former CIA director William Colby, who was perhaps the ONLY DCI ever to speak frankly with Congressional investigators in secret session, when asked about the JFK assassination said that the shooter teams in Dallas took orders from the Rockefellers). Dillon was named Undersecretary of State, reviewing CIA activities.
liability69 1 year ago
What if a gun had been fitted into the back of Kellerman's seat?
digitalisthedevil666 1 year ago
JFK's usual driver Thomas Shipman died on 10-14-63 of a "heart attack".The driver of the follow up car Mr Kellerman told Vince Palamara that Emory Roberts told agents to "stay put" during the shooting.Roberts also ordered agent Henry Rybka to stay behind at Love Field.That incident is on film for all to see as well.
themeaningoflife38 1 year ago
Kennedy had a lot of unseen powerful enemies from afar within his own government and abroad.
a high powered rifle was used in the assasination, which was shot from a distance, in a hidden position.
Do the math, forget LHO , forget conspiracy.
Apoic123 2 years ago
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cdddraftsman 2 years ago
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cdddraftsman 2 years ago
William Greer died on 23rd February, 1985. His son, Richard Greer, was interviewed in 1991. When asked, "What did your father think of JFK," Richard did not respond the first time. When asked a second time, he responded: "Well, we're Methodists... and JFK was Catholic..."
FGTFJT 2 years ago
In panic Greer hit the brake pedal as he looked around twice on hearing the shots rather than accelerating away.
innit27 2 years ago
in painc? think about what you are saying. if you hear shots are you going to stop and look and see where they are coming from if the car you are in is being shot at? i dont think so. this men are trained to put the petal to the metal in cases like this. its not like he is a everyday person. makes you think twice about if he was innocent.
FGTFJT 2 years ago
like you know exactly how you are going to react when under fire when you have never been in that situation before. he was just a chaffeur. even trained soldiers can freeze in action. do you think they all act like john wayne the first time under fire. do you think the guy is going to take off at high speed every time he hears a bang and look like a prat if he then finds out later the sound wasnt gunfire. he had a perfectly natural reaction which is to turn round and get a visual confirmation.
innit27 2 years ago
think about what you are saying...he worked for the SECERT SERVICE. He did not receive training how just to be good drive. he was taught how to drive the US PRESIDENT in any situation. you dont think they taught him how to drive if the car us under fire ? And to be honest , yes i have been at a location where shot rang out.. when the first shot was heard...i didnt stop and see where it was coming from...we put the petal to the metal and drove off.
FGTFJT 2 years ago
i doubt you've even passed your driving test
innit27 2 years ago
ok...you went from trying to make a intelligent response to a making a high school comment ? give me a break.
FGTFJT 2 years ago
Greer was assigned to drive the presidential car in the motorcade Dallas. Several witnesses said that Greer stopped the car after the first shot was fired.This included Jean Hill, who was the closest witness to the car when Kennedy was hot: According to Hill "the motorcade came to almost a halt at the time the shots rang out".
FGTFJT 2 years ago
i know all this stuff, not sure why you are throwing a bunch of quotes from another web site on here. if you look at my comment i say he hit the brake pedal by mistake
innit27 2 years ago
Again !!! read what you are typing. Mistake? there was far to much going on for that to be a mistake.he is Secert Service they know what guns sound like. just common knowledge would tell you to not stop. but this guys are Secert Service let me remind you. So many witnesses have stated the motorcade came to a halt. not hit the break ...but halt ( meaning stop). that should have never happen. it was done for a reason. think about it.
FGTFJT 2 years ago
go and find more quotes and copy and paste. you are really good at copy and paste.
innit27 2 years ago
yeah i copied and paste quotes. why would i re-write what someone else wrote? you still didnt answer my question Mr. Right?
FGTFJT 2 years ago
in answer to your question, yes you are very dull
innit27 2 years ago
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FGTFJT 2 years ago
i am falling asleep you are so boring.
innit27 2 years ago
you are a sad case. I am sure its not your fault for your ignorant and naive.
FGTFJT 2 years ago
Yawn, i am asleep. Wake me in 2 days.
innit27 2 years ago
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FGTFJT 2 years ago
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innit27 2 years ago
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FGTFJT 2 years ago
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innit27 2 years ago
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FGTFJT 2 years ago
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innit27 2 years ago
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FGTFJT 2 years ago
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innit27 2 years ago
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FGTFJT 2 years ago
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innit27 2 years ago
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FGTFJT 2 years ago
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innit27 2 years ago
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innit27 2 years ago
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FGTFJT 2 years ago
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innit27 2 years ago
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innit27 2 years ago
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FGTFJT 2 years ago
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innit27 2 years ago
yeah...i think that mouse was coming out your ass. we are thinking that since you are talking about Men all the time. geez we are laughing over here.
FGTFJT 2 years ago
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innit27 2 years ago
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FGTFJT 2 years ago
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innit27 2 years ago
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innit27 2 years ago
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FGTFJT 2 years ago
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innit27 2 years ago
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innit27 2 years ago
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innit27 2 years ago
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FGTFJT 2 years ago
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innit27 2 years ago
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FGTFJT 2 years ago
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innit27 2 years ago
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FGTFJT 2 years ago
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innit27 2 years ago
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FGTFJT 2 years ago
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innit27 2 years ago
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innit27 2 years ago
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FGTFJT 2 years ago
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innit27 2 years ago
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innit27 2 years ago
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FGTFJT 2 years ago
you are wanking?
innit27 2 years ago
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FGTFJT 2 years ago
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innit27 2 years ago
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innit27 2 years ago
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FGTFJT 2 years ago
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innit27 2 years ago
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innit27 2 years ago
James Chaney (one of the four Presidential motorcyclists) - stated that the limousine "after the shooting, from the time the first shot rang out, the car stopped completely, pulled to the left and stopped." Mary Woodward, a journalist with the Dallas Morning News wrote: "Instead of speeding up the car, the car came to a halt... after the first shot".
FGTFJT 2 years ago
Ralph Yarborough, who was riding w/LBJ , was critical of the actions of Greer:"When the noise of the shot was heard, the motorcade slowed to what seemed to me a complete stop.After the third shot was fired, but only after the third shot was fired, the cavalcade speeded up, gained speed rapidly, and roared away to the Parkland Hospital.The cars all stopped.'I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings but for the protection of future Presidents, they should be trained to take off when a shot is fired"
FGTFJT 2 years ago
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Hey HelmerReenberg, I liked your video, it is very unfortunate, the events of 11/22/63. Agent Greer actual lived 25 miles from where I live.
It is not shocking to know that the agents were drinking the night before the assassination, it was the flamboyant 60s. I am not one of these conspiracy theorists. I think the head shot came from behind, JFK was leaned over, because of his back brace, this created an odd angles for the neck. The natural reflexes caused his head to go back.
Crens3 2 years ago
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Crens3 2 years ago
I feel so sorry for Hill. He was running to the limosine to do his job and take the fatal bullet for Kennedy, and got there too late. In interviews, he was very emotional about it, and felt he had failed in his duty. Ironically, he was the only agent who behaved exactly as he should have that day.
I feel really sorry for Greer too. If he had speeded up, the president might have been saved, and I'm sure he knew it.
grumpytosnowwhite 2 years ago
Nearly all the witnesses said that at least two shots were very close together. Lone gunman theorists like Posner and Bugliosi both claimed that there were three shots: First at Z160, second at Z223/224 and the final shot at Z313. But between Z223/224 and Z313 are at least 5 seconds. This theory simply doesn´t fit the eyewitness testimony.
Zeitzler 3 years ago
HOw could a person talk with a shot in the throat????
clecre 3 years ago
Yeah, I think President Kennedy couldn't even breathe...
Zysiex 2 years ago
Good use of my material :)
VincePalamara 3 years ago 2
In the Zapruder film it doesnt look like Kellerman turns around at any point.Greer turns around and watches JFK get shot and only speeds up AFTER he is hit.Emory Roberts was in charge or the follow up car and ordered agents to stay put during the shooting.Roberts was a good buddy of LBJ.
themeaningoflife38 3 years ago
It's kinda strange that even the alleged sniper from the grassy knoll (James E. Files) described the last 2 shots nearly on top of eachother.
11DNA11 3 years ago
At two minutes in above film Kellerman describes last flurry of shots as two shots, BANG-BANG. He also says it is like a jet breaking the sound barrier.
These describtions ARE THE SMOKING GUN that everyone is looking for. Analyzing the last two shots leads finally to the conspirators.
How could a serious investigation miss that the last two shots were BANG-BANG, so many witnesses described shots just that way.
The answer is: Important people were involved. But first, look @BANG-BANG.
SCGATOR2001 3 years ago 2
In my video UNDERSTANDING THE KENNEDY ASSASSINATION, I show what happened with the last TWO SHOTS:
Z313, hit JFK in head, knocked him back and to the left
Z325, shot misses JFK's head, it hits Connally in the back and drives him forward violently, he hits the seat and is pulled over, all in a split second.
Connally's head snaps DOWNWARD faster than he could have moved @Z325, the exact moment the bullet hits him in the back.
SCGATOR2001 3 years ago
Okay...you are making it a point to describe drinking the night before, criticizing them for their actions the next day, and,in spite of the fact that they were drinking, you use their statements about the shots that were fired, etc. You can't have it both ways. If they were too drunk/hungover to do their jobs, they were too drunk/hungover to seriously take their statements as to what happened, as fact, as well.
audiophile55 3 years ago
Who arranged the drinking session for the Secret Service the night before the assassination? Who knows? What is known is that Ruby was a friend of the night club owner. There is even a possibility that Ruby was there.
Mobilecheese 3 years ago 2
Along with 'double bangs' everyone seemed to mention firecrackers.Were there indeed firecrackers let off to confuse and divert
people there? Also many witnesss spoke of the first shot as a 'pop' sound. Is there any possibility that the first shot was some low calibre weapon or even an airgun?Was the 'pop' a signal or sort of timing shot to allow others to follow on cue?
Mobilecheese 3 years ago
Very interesting. There seems to be an enormous amount of "double bang" witnesses, another brilliant documentation of the unbelievably faulty conclusions of the Warren Comission.
Steenville 3 years ago
Greer is quoted as having said later that he felt as if "shots were coming from everywhere".
Mobilecheese 3 years ago 6
@Mobilecheese I have always found it interesting that an outfit like the Warren Commission, some time well after the fact. Told people who were in the car's and on the street, what they really seen and heard., and that's just the ones they were forced to deal with. Not to mention the many they refused to acknowledge . And that's still all they bring to the table today. Now they make cartoons and, coffee table size books, simply defending what was obviously then and more so today. The Unspeakable
jmwave61 1 year ago
There is a reason why Greer slowed the limo and why Hill jumped from the running board just prior to the headshot at 312-313. They were both reacting to the shock wave of a near miss that went on to strike the pavement on Main St, where it shattered, sending a chunk of lead to strike the curb and a piece of debris to nick Tague.
watch?v=Ql6VqZDiC6s
bobharris77 3 years ago 2
Some say Greer slowed down because he felt
he was driving into an ambush - which, of course,he was.Poor Greer was in floods of tears later when he met Jackie in the Hospital.He blamed himself and kept saying:
"I'm so sorry Mrs Kennedy. I'm so sorry.If only I had speeded up...if only I had speeded up..." Greer is NOT to blame.
Mobilecheese 3 years ago 3