Building seven coming down in a controlled demolition fashion is the biggest clue...no planes crashed into building 7. Buildings don't collapse like that from fire, even the cheapest buildings would fall apart bit by bit in a massive fire, not come down all at once. This is obvious.
Interesting, if the cia are responsible (and shadow govt) then it makes sense that the only way to make it believable is to make it massive with a large number of deaths...their rationale might be that no one would ever believe they would kill so many of their own.
No evidence presented just ignorant conjecture. I've always wondered why these people so sure this event was not the work of islamic terrorists offer no alternative theory supported by facts for peer review. Obviously they are not in that business. Who knows what their motives are ... I think they're just batshit and find personal fulfillment in their delusions.
having seen all the 9/11-truthers making fools of them self's
this dude really thinks that non-building-engineers, non-explosive-experts can make an assessment -> pure arrogance or stupidity. i can't make up my mind.
@unamaxify In response to your statement; 'this dude really thinks that non-building-engineers, non-explosive-experts can make an assessment ', well, maybe he is no expert on quantum mechanics, but how do you explain the thousands/millions/billions of Architects and Engineers for 911 truth? they all must be arrogant and/or stupid, right? stay in your bubble mate.. when we have no freedom left i will say 'i told you so', if we still have the freedom to voice opinions freely like this.
"thousands/millions/billions of Architects and Engineers for 911 truth"
Should have stopped at "thousands" ... about two. You see - you lose credibility when you exagerate and make shit up. That's pretty much all truthers do. Oh ... and "ask questions" (that have already been answered).
@unamaxify Just because you know "allot" of architects doesn't mean there aren't any that don't believe the official story. You can take the time and look up each of the architects and engineers on the AE911Truth website and see for yourself.
@unamaxify I suggest you eat your words mate, google; 'architects and engineers for 9/11 truth' and click on the top one, AEtruth dot org, on that site there are 1,670 Architects who have signed up and 14,422 other supporters, plus everyone else in the world who has questions and won't stop asking until they are answered, for the sake of the victims on the day and ever since.
@1DarkMasK1 The point is false flag events have happened throughout history and will keep happening for as long as they are effective, the media is a powerful tool for this, i'm not saying the US government did 911.
The global corporate elite behind the govt, also control the money, oil, food, media, pretty much everything, they had the motive, the same motive they might have to 'liberate' other countries.
Yes I do hear what your saying, but the point is, all conflict must stop
@1DarkMasK1 As for your final points, you pretty much answer your own question, i'm not saying muslim exretmists were incapable, i'm just saying the evidence suggests others being involved, not just in regards to 911, but in many areas that would be irrelevant to discuss on this vid.
Also, good point, if you invade countries and kill innocent people your sure to make a few enemies. I would leave it there if i were you, i could go on for days about the world and how it is wrong...
well the ae911truth site is known to to notoriously spread disinformation.
I can't verify whether these people that signed are who they claim to be.
You see on the one hand i know about 2 dozen of architects in real life & i have been in buildings they designed, and on the other-hand you have a list on the internet, which could just be made up, or copied form a phone directory.
I trust real people over claims made anonymously on the internet
"i haven't come across a single Architects or Engineer, who believes in the 9/11 conspiracy. And i know allot of Architects, since my wife is one."
I call BS. If you really think most architects and engineers and demolition believe that the 9/11 was NOT an orchestrated tower demolition, you're dead wrong.. and highly delusional.
If you still think otherwise, YOU try to explain how the towers came down the way it did. And please use science and REAL proof.
there was no inside job. anyone who believes that 9/11 was an inside job needs to get a life and stop trolling all over the internet to a bunch of people who dont want to hear that stupid bullshit
Fuck this shit I knew it was fucked up the day i saw it, i'm an engineer, a physicist, and an awake human being and i would bet my life that we are lied to on a daily basis with regards to terrorism, due to greed and corruption, its time to re-take the planet, money system is out of date, in the words of peter tosh 'WHERE CAN WE GO FROM HERE, HEAVEN OR NOWHERE, WE GOT TO COME TOGETHER, LEARN TO LOVE ONE AND OTHER'
The minions of A&E. No university, research centers, technical journals, scientists, associations of engineers, pilots, architects, firefighters and medical believe the lies and the demolition of the A&E. The same in Asia, Oceania, Canada, Europe and South America. The list below is today. I have the link of all. Always find more on the internet. There evidence against the towers and WTC7.Only 0,0001% of U.S. engineers are in A&E. Without the universities the A&E will never convince the U.S.
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering,
University of Perdue, School of Civil Engineering,
University of Texas at El Paso, Department of Computer, Department of Civil Engineering, Science & Department of Public Administration,
University of Notre Dame, Department of Civil Engineering and Geological Sciences and the Student Chapter of the Earthquake Engineering Research Institute
This BABBLING, STUPID FUCK doesn't know a GODDAMN thing about explosives, explosions, demolitions, or the physics involved. Fucking idiot. "Facts?" What in FUCK does this IDIOT know about anything?
He doesn't want to accept what happened. POOR BABY.
HE is full of shit, and this VIDEO is full of shit. For the love of ALL that is right in this world, ENOUGH with the conspiracy bullshit. Seriously. STOP IT already. It happened as it happened, and it took next to nothing to pull off 9/11. ENOUGH.
9/11 isn't a conspiracy anymore. 9/11 is an inside job proven by many, which is part of the bigger conspiracy. Get over it. It's funny how some people say something otherwise, but fail to say anything insightful.
You think people randomly pull out random conspiracy theories out of their assholes? Americans want answers. Our founding fathers want us to always question the government for the sake of our liberty and the country.
@ytSouljah i willing to give a try, i have a rational mind, show me one good peace of evidence and i'll be convinced. but it has to be a strong one, a clear cut evidence that would make me doubt.
@ytSouljah i willing to give a try, i have a rational mind, show me one good peace of evidence and i'll be convinced. but it has to be a strong one, a clear cut evidence that would make me doubt.
I've watched Zeitgeist -- it's an amazing film. Very well made. But the focus on 9/11 was pure bullshit. We were attacked by Muslim terrorists on that day. They had no help from the U.S. govt (which I'm no fan of) or from Israel, or Zionists. It was planned by al Qaeda for years, and executed on 9/11 with a 75% success rate. I choose to believe this - because that's what the evidence clearly points to, not because the govt told me to believe it. Truthers have zero evidence.
@klrdotorg What gets me is when you say there is no evidence. Hum. Lots of video of the event. I see in the rubble, before torches were used plenty of evidence that the cores of the towers 1 and 2 were cut all over. I guess it proves people only see what they want to see, and not what is. Lots of proof in the Sonnenfeld video, again before torches were used. Core 4 inches thick cut almost square. Oh I guess that is just an anomaly of the collapse. Whatever.
Yep. It's either an anomoly or they cut them earlier than you thought. The collapses started where the planes hit the buildings. All of this convoluted demo/thermite bullshit makes no sense. It's been studied by countless organizations & universties.
@klrdotorg Welp got to say these cut cores were present when the bucket brigade started and the beepers were still beeping. So unless a few hundred cuts were made in the first hour after the demolition, and before a single crane was on site I have to say with no uncertainty you are very wrong. If you acutally take the time to look, and I do not think you will it is not hard to see. Cut cores no torches.
@klrdotorg Fair enough, we'll have to agree to disagree in that case, in the words of Charly Sheen, 'i just got a lot of questions'. We owe it to the victims both on the day and in the years since to not just sit down and shut up, and for this reason truthers will never go away, untill all the questions are answered. The questions ARE the evidence, like the pentagon 'plane' (video!?), BUILDING 7 (WTF!?), Flight 75 (suspect), Molten metal weeks after (WTF!?), NORAD, Come on, wake up.
Most of your questions have been answered. Building 7, flight 75, NORAD have all been answered. I don't know what can be done to answer your questions about the molten metal. And the govt really does fan the flames of conspiracists - by snatching up all the security footage around the Pentagon. But have you looked for witness accounts on YouTube? There are scores of witness testimonies - of people who clearly saw an American Airlines 767, plus all of the physical evidence.
@klrdotorg yeah but... all those people are in on it too... its the only conclusion that i can draw... every single witness is a highly trained black ops agent
Lol ... yep, the list of co-conspirators keeps growing - doesn't it? Witnesses, first responders, universities, the entire media complex - with the exception of Alex Jones and some bloggers. The numbers are getting LARGE!
@MrOllie86 there is not 2 equal sides in this debate. one side is the side of rational evidence and the other side is the side of conjecture and huge leaps of faith
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annnnd.... HOW long has it been since Fahrenheit 911 came out? Whether you say "the government" did it or did NOT do it, you're wrong either way! It wasn't OUR government, wake up sleeple! It was the zionist elites. Get America pissed off so we would go fight their enemies for them, and they get paid coming and going, duh! It's zionist banksters that finance the war on both sides, Hello, McFly!?! And then the tax payers have to pay it back. YOU paid for 9/11 one way or another. Have a nice day.
@The0rangePanda You're an atheist too stupid! I’m an engineer and an engineer are 3 million in the U.S. and everyone in my country, Brazil, and throughout the world that a college degree and is not sick, Communist and Nazi. Least in Muslim countries, Cuba, Venezuela, Ecuador, Nicaragua and the Putin government that rules the RT. And his person.
The World Trade Center never existed, it was a mass illusion projected by projectors. For thirty years, people thought that there were two large buildings down in lower Manhattan. Look at the evidence! There is no proof that the those buildings ever existed!
The minions of A&E. No university, research centers, technical journals, scientists, associations of engineers, pilots, architects, firefighters and medical believe the lies and the demolition of the A&E. The same in Asia, Oceania, Canada, Europe and South America. The list below is today. I have the link of all. Always find more on the internet. There evidence against the towers and WTC7.Only 0,0001% of U.S. engineers are in A&E. Without the universities the A&E will never convince the U.S.
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering,
University of Perdue, School of Civil Engineering,
University of Texas at El Paso, Department of Computer, Department of Civil Engineering, Science & Department of Public Administration,
University of Notre Dame, Department of Civil Engineering and Geological Sciences and the Student Chapter of the Earthquake Engineering Research Institute
People need to keep in mind that THE OFFICIAL story of what happend on 911 ( how the towers fell) was issued by your government.
The original explanation of the science behind the towers falling ( the metal burning etc) all those fantasy explanations-- ALL made official by your government.
A government that declaired WAR by using 911 as propaganda
@fast2ghl owz about you get your narrow minded head outa your arse,okay first time a jet hit a sky scraper loaded with fuel blah de blah..... 3 buildings colapsed into their own footprint at freefall speed with explosives going off,theres so much more witch you need to look ur lazy arse into before commenting on shit u clearly no fuckall about....stop beliving your tv an find out for youself.
Your whole world is filled up with the demonic scum all around you. You absorb it all in your sub conscience then it's implemented into your slave world by you consenting to conformity. You will make no difference just complain about what people are smoking.
This guy is so full of BS... Everything he says can be explained logically. YES conspiracy theories are great to read, but for the most part they don't hold true in any way, hence they are theories. GIVE IT UP PEOPLE these buildings were hit by 767's, larger planes then they were ever intended to withstand an impact from. He's right no buildings have ever fallen from plane impact because no buildings in history before 911 had ever been hit by fully fueled 767's traveling at 500mph!
@fast2ghl then what about WTC 7, no planes hit this building.What about the witness testomonies, the witnesses who died, or just vanished, and so much more that you have chosen to ignore because you are comfortable blaming who you are predisposed and conditioned to hate. I pity you.
@fast2ghl It does not matter what hit them. Those buildings are steel frame which means they are the strongest in the world. All the floors below the impact areas are undamaged and the buildings goes down in free fall speed as if those floor offered zero resistance. Sorry mate, but as much as it sucks, i just cannot happen.
I bet 90% of the people on youtube dont even know that WCT7 (the 3rd building) was NOT hit by a plane but just happend to fall ( at the rate of gravity) at 5pm.
A building which had a command center inside it.
Tell me how a 40 story building NOT hit by a plane or jet fuel can fall at the rate of gravity?
WC7 IS THE KEY TO EVERYTHING.
Those 3 buildings fell due to controlled demolition. PERIOD.
"Tell me how a 40 story building NOT hit by a plane or jet fuel can fall at the rate of gravity?"
It was heavily damaged by falling debris from the tower collapses. It caught fire, and burned for hours. It was fed, in part, by pressurized diesel lines that fed the bldg's generators. The sprinklers didn't work, and the fire burned uncontrolled. The firemen knew if was going to fail. It did.
@klrdotorg Only problem is that the official NIST report said the collapse wasnt due to fire. So who is right? You or the NIST? Id say you as well as NIST are full of it.
"The heat from the uncontrolled fires caused steel floor beams and girders to thermally expand, leading to a chain of events that caused a key structural column to fail. The failure of this structural column then initiated a fire-induced progressive collapse of the entire building."
~ "Questions and Answers about the NIST WTC 7 Investigation (9/17/2010, ARCHIVE, incorporated into 9/19/2011 update) NIST Public and Business Affairs website.
@klrdotorg Updated in 2011?????? I need something from the investgation done within the first two years. Not some notes added 10 years later lol. See my point
The NIST report on WTC 7 wasn't complete in the first couple of years. So no, I don't see your point. You asked for a quote (in fact you dared me) -- I gave you one ... from NIST.
@klrdotorg First couple years no but it was complete well before 2010/2011 which is when that quote you provided was added. So a new investigation was done in 2010? I dont think so
@klrdotorg No one is looking for an out I have been to Iraq 5 times and have seen with my own eyes this whole thing is BS. There is no change of subject this is all connected. Molten metal was found
@klrdotorg I joined the Army in 2002 after 9/11 and was blind as well I love my country but I know that there is an evil force controling it and will never be stopped as long as people like you exist
@masonTganes Yes it was controled but typical go boom explosives werent the only thing used if used at all. Search for "Ther Great Thermate Debate" that should explain everything.
@masonTganes I think this is much much bigger than just oil. Its about taking away the rights of every person globally We Kill Lybian president and next day we leave Iraq. We have people in Africa now
Thanks for your service. I'm sorry I don't agree with you. I've looked at both sides of the debate. Your side has no evidence, only anomolies and theories.
The real "tell" in the "truther" arguments. Is their repeated ignoring of important evidence that shoots their theories to hell. They pretend it doesn't exist, but it does.
@klrdotorg Ok well this is two sides of the same coin. I hope we all wan the truth. The "truther" movement as you call it used simple physics in thier arguments while the "official" story literally
@klrdotorg made up ther theorys required to justify what happened. Thats my problem. I frankly dont car who what when why. I just know I was lied too and would die defending that. Fema and Nist didnt
@klrdotorg even agree what happend because noe of thier therys were based off of the evidence. #1 most was moved out #2 they used a computer program to similate what happened fact
Knock yourselves out guys. I'm going to bed. Just remember - your argument is supported by less than 1% of the experts. Do you really believe you r the only smart people? Ur not.
It would take me 20 posts to list all the professional organizations & major universities that have studied 9/11. They all support the official story ... except A&E for 911 Truth.
@klrdotorg Thats simple our country is full of pussies who care more about keeping thier job than telling the truth. And hear we go with "thats stupid" why does it alway go there?
So Barry Jennings isnt important Why because the govt didnt label him an "expert" thats the problem with this country You dont need to be an expert to see, hear and smell a rat Just follow the cheese
@klrdotorg If all the evidence wasnt shipped off to China before an investigation could be done. There would be no need to debate what happened. Yet It was I guess planes fit in 5M holes too, Pentagon
The Pentagon was hit by Flight 77. The evidence to support this is undeniable ... unless you get your info from truther sites. I notice you like to change topics.
@klrdotorg So you know about the magic 5M hole huh One with the almost perfect circle exit hole huh. The most watched building in the world releases a 2 Frame per sec vid and says theres the plane lol
@klrdotorg You have to laugh to keep from beting so upset. Your use of "" is just as good as an lol. lol I cant be serious with a person who refuses to see the thruth. The govt has lied before fact
Yes. The govt has lied before. So? You guys make that stupid leap. It's dumb. Look at the real evidence - not just truther bullshit - and you'll get a handle on what happened.
@klrdotorg When you have answers to conspiracy theories given to you by the government---- um DUH they will twist the truth because they have the power to do so.
Do you think Bush is going to say there was controled demo involved?
The proof cant be released officially on FOX NEWS.
You MUST beleive in the THOUSANDS of scientists from across the planet that are trying to tell this country its impossible "freefall at the rate of gravity"
How many "THOUSANDS" are you talking about? The two or three thousand "scientists" - some of whom are tree doctors? The overwhelming majority of experts support the official story.
@klrdotorg Can you get me a copy of NIST's computer model for the collapse of WTC7? Oh, wait, no you can't because they refuse to release the model or any of the parameters used. What sort of corrupt science doesn't allow anyone else to examine the findings?
"aczjbr" just posted several lists of groups that have studied 9/11. Look at the long list of professional and media organizations, and universties that have studied the events of 9/11 - and accept the "official story".
Look at the list of prestigious schools. Did all those universities and engineering organizations miss school the day they taught physics and metalurgy? That's what you would have us believe. I don't think so. It's not just the govt.
All of the organizations in that list have published studies confirming that the World Trade Center did not fall from the use of explosives? List 5
NO ONE tested for explosives! Despite the debris meeting every characteristic of High Order Damage, despite terrorists using bombs at the WTC before and this was allegedly terrorists, despite it being common practice to perform chemical tests for explosive residues, and this was the largest building failure investigation EVER!
@smitty121981You miss!Of the 3 million engineers Yankees against their demolition and the false science of A&E,has experts in demolition.In my country,only Nazis, Communists and religious fanatics with fucking the iluminatti agree with you and A&E.I did military service and know to plant explosive without anybody and without holes,only by magic.The A&E mind as explosion noises.Were the floors of caving 2400T.No
@smitty121981 building collapses in silence. I've seen it in 15-storey buildings in earthquakes in Peru. Was in infernal noise. On 5 continents, engineer and scientists reject its demolition the Jet and from top to bottom with magic dirt and sand. The normal is unlike to controls where will fall with interdiction of building for months. In the towers would be 12 months for each one. Sending a video of an expert in demolition Yankee and Europe.
I had a horrible time trying to read your broken english, but the best thing you did to state your case was to post an opinion paper written by only ONE person! Compare that to the THOUSANDS of architects and engineers that say the exact opposite - that the WTC was demolished with explosives!
@smitty121981 Sorry my English. Thousands? Where? My English is bad and you don't know how to count. 3 million of U.S. engineers less 1500? No! A&E petitions to the US Congress signed a 646 and 20% aren't U.S. citizens. So would be 3 million fewer 516. All U.S. universities and all associations of architects, engineer, riders are against A&E. As well as in Europe, Canada, Asia, Oceania and South America. Thousands?
"Thousands?" Yes, 1500 can be correctly expressed as "thousands"
"All U.S. universities and all associations of architects, engineer, riders are against A&E." That is completely FALSE. Can you name even ONE that specifically made a statement against AE911Truth? Remember that silence does NOT mean they automatically agree with you!
"Compare that to the THOUSANDS of architects and engineers that say the exact opposite - that the WTC was demolished with explosives!"
Hey, how many "THOUSANDS" of A&E's for Truth are we talking about? Two? You're badly over-playing your hand sport. They are considerably less than 1% of A&E's ... the fringe. There are nuts and crackpots in every profession -- that's what your heroes are - the nuts. It wasn't demo -- it was planes and fire, period.
@smitty121981 The TRUTH of A&E, FRAUD, URGENT, FRANCE
Effondrement des tours Jumelles
The analysis of the explosives expert Jowenko was used by conspiracy theorists to show that WTC7 was deliberately destroyed. In the same interview, he explains that the controlled demolition of the twin towers is impossible. Dynamite exploded immediately, and it would take a year to put everything in place. In English.
w w w . dailymotion . com / video / x2l5k9_effondrement-des-tours-jumelles_news
Norwegian guy. I have to agree with you. My cat in the hat book by Dr. Zeus dose say when a Jet liner hits a building it falls over, especially a building with 10,000 X more mass than the jet. Bldg 7. So therefor it should start folding in on itself at the top and then leave a irregular pattern of failure. 20 feet sticking up on the north side, 30 feet up on the south side, 6 feet on the west side, and 4 inches on the east. No it was designed to pancake if a jet hit it. RIGHT! Smart thinking.
@txguynnh When the plane hit, the inside of the building caught fire along with the jet fuel. Steel might not burn but it will expand and weaken when exposed to high temperatures. The framework is like everything else only as strong as the weakest link. When one part of the framework began to bend, the other parts had to take over, and began to bend, and so its continues until things snaps. The top part of the building falls down on the floor below the impact, which...
@txguynnh ...gives in and smash down on the floor below, which falls down on the floor below, which falls down on the floor below and so on always with greater and greater power, until the collapse reaches the ground and spread outward. Its very similar to the way they demolish buildings. They take out the key points holding the building up and let gravity do the rest. The only difference is that they begin at the bottom, not the top
Classic conspiracy theory data mining and cherry picking -- Find a few minor anomalies that superficially support your hypothesis while completely disregarding mountains of evidence that contradict it. Truthers have joined an exclusive club that includes Moon Hoaxers, JFK Cover-uppers, Birthers and Holocaust Deniers.
No, explosives will not turn buildings to dust. Explosives, the kind used in demolition, cause a building to collapse on itself which then breaks into smaller chunks. Demolitions also leave seismic evidence (P and S waves). All the buildings in WTC left no P and S waves. This is because the buildings literally turned into dust before they hit the ground. Demolition cannot do this - and certainly not fire.
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Sinnsonido 1 day ago
Building seven coming down in a controlled demolition fashion is the biggest clue...no planes crashed into building 7. Buildings don't collapse like that from fire, even the cheapest buildings would fall apart bit by bit in a massive fire, not come down all at once. This is obvious.
ottawa856 1 day ago
Interesting, if the cia are responsible (and shadow govt) then it makes sense that the only way to make it believable is to make it massive with a large number of deaths...their rationale might be that no one would ever believe they would kill so many of their own.
ottawa856 1 day ago
South Africa, WE KNOW 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!
mjknet 1 day ago
Conspiracy theories are the duct tape of ignorance.
soulinite 1 day ago
They are covering this but not the protests in Moscow?
soulinite 1 day ago
It's extremely obvious that 9/11 was an inside job. For reals.
Historically, the government has lied to us before, and it will do it again if it wants too.
ytSouljah 1 day ago
No evidence presented just ignorant conjecture. I've always wondered why these people so sure this event was not the work of islamic terrorists offer no alternative theory supported by facts for peer review. Obviously they are not in that business. Who knows what their motives are ... I think they're just batshit and find personal fulfillment in their delusions.
EMPERORMIKI 1 day ago
watching this in 2012
having seen all the 9/11-truthers making fools of them self's
this dude really thinks that non-building-engineers, non-explosive-experts can make an assessment -> pure arrogance or stupidity. i can't make up my mind.
unamaxify 2 days ago
@unamaxify In response to your statement; 'this dude really thinks that non-building-engineers, non-explosive-experts can make an assessment ', well, maybe he is no expert on quantum mechanics, but how do you explain the thousands/millions/billions of Architects and Engineers for 911 truth? they all must be arrogant and/or stupid, right? stay in your bubble mate.. when we have no freedom left i will say 'i told you so', if we still have the freedom to voice opinions freely like this.
MrOllie86 2 days ago
@MrOllie86
"thousands/millions/billions of Architects and Engineers for 911 truth"
Should have stopped at "thousands" ... about two. You see - you lose credibility when you exagerate and make shit up. That's pretty much all truthers do. Oh ... and "ask questions" (that have already been answered).
klrdotorg 1 day ago
@MrOllie86
"how do you explain the thousands/millions/billions of Architects and Engineers for 911 truth"
HAHAHA prove it,
i haven't come across a single Architects or Engineer, who believes in the 9/11 conspiracy.
And i know allot of Architects, since my wife is one.
My Gosh you just made such a fool of your self -> you just went in the stupidity category, that's for sure
unamaxify 1 day ago 2
@unamaxify Just because you know "allot" of architects doesn't mean there aren't any that don't believe the official story. You can take the time and look up each of the architects and engineers on the AE911Truth website and see for yourself.
bluerap04 1 day ago
@unamaxify I suggest you eat your words mate, google; 'architects and engineers for 9/11 truth' and click on the top one, AEtruth dot org, on that site there are 1,670 Architects who have signed up and 14,422 other supporters, plus everyone else in the world who has questions and won't stop asking until they are answered, for the sake of the victims on the day and ever since.
MrOllie86 1 day ago
@MrOllie86
Cool and you also have thousands of scientists claiming that god created Earth and man 600 years ago.
So whats your point?
Why would US government attack wtc?
False flag attack?
why?
Since its public knowledge that US & Israel was causing shit in Middle East over 50 years now.
Did you see what Muslims did when people draw Mohammed or burn the Quran?
And for some reason you think they are incapable of hijacking the plane when US invaded their holy land for years?
1DarkMasK1 1 day ago
@1DarkMasK1 The point is false flag events have happened throughout history and will keep happening for as long as they are effective, the media is a powerful tool for this, i'm not saying the US government did 911.
The global corporate elite behind the govt, also control the money, oil, food, media, pretty much everything, they had the motive, the same motive they might have to 'liberate' other countries.
Yes I do hear what your saying, but the point is, all conflict must stop
MrOllie86 23 hours ago
@1DarkMasK1 As for your final points, you pretty much answer your own question, i'm not saying muslim exretmists were incapable, i'm just saying the evidence suggests others being involved, not just in regards to 911, but in many areas that would be irrelevant to discuss on this vid.
Also, good point, if you invade countries and kill innocent people your sure to make a few enemies. I would leave it there if i were you, i could go on for days about the world and how it is wrong...
MrOllie86 22 hours ago
@MrOllie86
well the ae911truth site is known to to notoriously spread disinformation.
I can't verify whether these people that signed are who they claim to be.
You see on the one hand i know about 2 dozen of architects in real life & i have been in buildings they designed, and on the other-hand you have a list on the internet, which could just be made up, or copied form a phone directory.
I trust real people over claims made anonymously on the internet
unamaxify 5 hours ago
@unamaxify
"i haven't come across a single Architects or Engineer, who believes in the 9/11 conspiracy. And i know allot of Architects, since my wife is one."
I call BS. If you really think most architects and engineers and demolition believe that the 9/11 was NOT an orchestrated tower demolition, you're dead wrong.. and highly delusional.
If you still think otherwise, YOU try to explain how the towers came down the way it did. And please use science and REAL proof.
Exactly.
ytSouljah 16 hours ago
morons...
doofusmoo 2 days ago
@doofusmoo sheeple
TheMoo1231 2 days ago
there was no inside job. anyone who believes that 9/11 was an inside job needs to get a life and stop trolling all over the internet to a bunch of people who dont want to hear that stupid bullshit
threadysparrow 2 days ago
@threadysparrow douche bag let people think what they want and have their own opinion
killerfat2 2 days ago
He's right...
dab1899 3 days ago
Fuck this shit I knew it was fucked up the day i saw it, i'm an engineer, a physicist, and an awake human being and i would bet my life that we are lied to on a daily basis with regards to terrorism, due to greed and corruption, its time to re-take the planet, money system is out of date, in the words of peter tosh 'WHERE CAN WE GO FROM HERE, HEAVEN OR NOWHERE, WE GOT TO COME TOGETHER, LEARN TO LOVE ONE AND OTHER'
MrOllie86 3 days ago
Congress to reopen anything to clear Al-Qaida. The A&E already been born defeated. As well as its false science.
aczjbr 3 days ago
The minions of A&E. No university, research centers, technical journals, scientists, associations of engineers, pilots, architects, firefighters and medical believe the lies and the demolition of the A&E. The same in Asia, Oceania, Canada, Europe and South America. The list below is today. I have the link of all. Always find more on the internet. There evidence against the towers and WTC7.Only 0,0001% of U.S. engineers are in A&E. Without the universities the A&E will never convince the U.S.
aczjbr 3 days ago
New York City Fire Department
Fort Myer Fire Department.
aczjbr 3 days ago
International Association of Fire Chiefs
International Association of Fire Fighters
Arlington Professional Fire Fighters Association, IAFF; Arlington.
Fairfax County Fire and Rescue,
New York City Department of Environmental Protection.
Kappler Safety Group
InterAgency Board for Equipment Standardization and InterOperability
Emergency Medical Services, Oklahoma City Fire Department.
Science & Technology Policy Institute Rand
aczjbr 3 days ago
North Carolina State University, Center for Research Textile Protection & Comfort
Washington State Urban Search and Rescue
Occupational Health & Environmental Safety, 3M Company.
New York City Department of Environmental Protection.
New York City Office of Emergency Management.
Kappler Safety Group
Bechtel Group, Inc.
Oklahoma City National Memorial Institute for the Prevention of Terrorism
Department of Emergency Medicine, University of Massachusetts Memorial Medical Center;
aczjbr 3 days ago
American College of Medical Toxicology;
ArchitectureWeek . com
Fire Protection Engineering . com
McGraw-Hill Construction Online
NFPA . ORG . FOR
Scientific American . com
Enr.com - Engeneerin news
PDHengineer . com
Wiley Interscience
aczjbr 3 days ago
Journal of Engineering Mechanics ASCE
Popular Mechanics
Skeptic . com
Applied Research Associates, Inc.
Century Dynamics, Inc.Concord,CA,
Cagley & Associates, Consulting Structural Engineers, Rockville, Montgomery, Maryland,
Thornton-Tomasetti Engineers, NY, NY
DeStefano Associates, and is a Partner in the firm of Coastal Engineering Partners.
Gilsanz Murray Steficek, a structural engineering and building envelope consulting firm.
Simpson Gumpertz & Heger, Inc., San Francisco, CA
aczjbr 3 days ago
Simpson Gumpertz & Heger, Inc., San Francisco, CA
Myers, Houghton & Partners, Inc. Structural Engineers, Long Beach CA
Teng & Associates, Inc. in Chicago.
American Institute of Steel Construction Inc, Chicago(AISC),
American Society of Civil Engineers(ASCE),123,000 members,
American Institute of Architects(AIA),80,000 members
American Concrete Institute(ACI),20,000 members spanning 108 countries.
American Council Of Engineering Companies(ACEC),6,000 independent engineering companies
aczjbr 3 days ago
American Society of Mechanical Engineers(ASME),120,000 members
American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics(AIAA),35,000 members
American Institute of Chemical Engineers(AIChE),40,000 members
American Standards Institute(ANSI),125 mil empresas e 3.500 mil members,
Association of de Wall & Ceiling Industry,2.000 members that are primarily wall and ceiling contractors
Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat (CTBUH),
aczjbr 3 days ago
Department of Design and Construction(DDC) in NY,1,200 members
International Union of Operating Engineers, Canada & USA, Training Center,
Geneva College is a comprehensive Christian college of the arts, sciences and professional studies. Beaver Falls, PA.
International Metallographic Society,
Institute of Structural Engineers Association of New York (SEAoNY),
Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE),370,000 members
Minerals, Metals & Materials Society,15,000 members
aczjbr 3 days ago
National Council of Structural Engineers Associations (NCSEA),12 mil members,
National Fire Protection Association (NFPA),70,000 individuals around the world,
Structural Engineering Institute (SEI),
Society for Fire Protection Engineering (SFPE),
Atlantic International University, Civil Engineering Department, Miami
Columbia University, Foundation School of Engineering and Applied Science
California Polytechnic State University, Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering
aczjbr 3 days ago
Cornell University, School Civil and Environmental Engineering & Department of Crop Soil Sciencies
Florida International University, School Civil and Environmental Engineering
Lehigh University, Department Civil Engineering
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), Engineering Department,
Michigan State University, Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering
Northwestern University, Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering & Research Experiences for Teachers Program
aczjbr 3 days ago
National Academy of Engineering,
Princeton University, Department of Civil & Environmental Engineering
Pennsylvania State University, Protective technology center & College of Engineering,
State University of New York at Albany, Doctor of Arts & architecture
Stanford University, Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering,
Syracuse University, Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering,
Ohio State University. Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering and Geodetic
aczjbr 3 days ago
University of Akron, Department of Mechanical Engineering
University of Arizona, Engineering Civil Department,
University of Colorado, Engineering Civil Department,
University of Chicago, NORC at the Department of Security, Energy, and Environment
University of Delaware, Department of Sociology, Criminal Justice, Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering
University of Iowa, Department of Physics and Astronomy,
University of Louisville, Department of Urban and Public Affairs
aczjbr 3 days ago
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering,
University of Perdue, School of Civil Engineering,
University of Texas at El Paso, Department of Computer, Department of Civil Engineering, Science & Department of Public Administration,
University of Notre Dame, Department of Civil Engineering and Geological Sciences and the Student Chapter of the Earthquake Engineering Research Institute
aczjbr 3 days ago
Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University,
Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Department of Civil Engineering
Washington State University; Department of Political Science, Criminal Justice, School of Electrical Engineering & Computer Science.
Youngstown State University, Banco de Dados de Pesquisas Tecnológicas (TRD) & Copper Data Center (CDC)
aczjbr 3 days ago
amazing he's talking about iran is the next target.. now here we are. can we just rise up and retake america from these criminals already..
McCouchsky 3 days ago
This BABBLING, STUPID FUCK doesn't know a GODDAMN thing about explosives, explosions, demolitions, or the physics involved. Fucking idiot. "Facts?" What in FUCK does this IDIOT know about anything?
He doesn't want to accept what happened. POOR BABY.
HE is full of shit, and this VIDEO is full of shit. For the love of ALL that is right in this world, ENOUGH with the conspiracy bullshit. Seriously. STOP IT already. It happened as it happened, and it took next to nothing to pull off 9/11. ENOUGH.
jjobie 3 days ago
@jjobie
9/11 isn't a conspiracy anymore. 9/11 is an inside job proven by many, which is part of the bigger conspiracy. Get over it. It's funny how some people say something otherwise, but fail to say anything insightful.
You think people randomly pull out random conspiracy theories out of their assholes? Americans want answers. Our founding fathers want us to always question the government for the sake of our liberty and the country.
ytSouljah 3 days ago
@ytSouljah i willing to give a try, i have a rational mind, show me one good peace of evidence and i'll be convinced. but it has to be a strong one, a clear cut evidence that would make me doubt.
bellijklh 3 days ago
@bellijklh
/watch?v=1FPTWBz9_CM
ytSouljah 3 days ago
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@ytSouljah i willing to give a try, i have a rational mind, show me one good peace of evidence and i'll be convinced. but it has to be a strong one, a clear cut evidence that would make me doubt.
bellijklh 3 days ago
@jjobie No, Fuck You, you are wrong, watch zeitgeist appendum. it explains why all this is happening.
MrOllie86 3 days ago
@MrOllie86 P.s. Why don't you stop saying stop the conspiracies, and start saying, stop the war and corruption bullshit, dipshit.
MrOllie86 3 days ago
@MrOllie86
I've watched Zeitgeist -- it's an amazing film. Very well made. But the focus on 9/11 was pure bullshit. We were attacked by Muslim terrorists on that day. They had no help from the U.S. govt (which I'm no fan of) or from Israel, or Zionists. It was planned by al Qaeda for years, and executed on 9/11 with a 75% success rate. I choose to believe this - because that's what the evidence clearly points to, not because the govt told me to believe it. Truthers have zero evidence.
klrdotorg 2 days ago
@klrdotorg What gets me is when you say there is no evidence. Hum. Lots of video of the event. I see in the rubble, before torches were used plenty of evidence that the cores of the towers 1 and 2 were cut all over. I guess it proves people only see what they want to see, and not what is. Lots of proof in the Sonnenfeld video, again before torches were used. Core 4 inches thick cut almost square. Oh I guess that is just an anomaly of the collapse. Whatever.
Jimbofx911 2 days ago
@Jimbofx911
Yep. It's either an anomoly or they cut them earlier than you thought. The collapses started where the planes hit the buildings. All of this convoluted demo/thermite bullshit makes no sense. It's been studied by countless organizations & universties.
klrdotorg 2 days ago
@klrdotorg Welp got to say these cut cores were present when the bucket brigade started and the beepers were still beeping. So unless a few hundred cuts were made in the first hour after the demolition, and before a single crane was on site I have to say with no uncertainty you are very wrong. If you acutally take the time to look, and I do not think you will it is not hard to see. Cut cores no torches.
Jimbofx911 2 days ago
@klrdotorg Fair enough, we'll have to agree to disagree in that case, in the words of Charly Sheen, 'i just got a lot of questions'. We owe it to the victims both on the day and in the years since to not just sit down and shut up, and for this reason truthers will never go away, untill all the questions are answered. The questions ARE the evidence, like the pentagon 'plane' (video!?), BUILDING 7 (WTF!?), Flight 75 (suspect), Molten metal weeks after (WTF!?), NORAD, Come on, wake up.
MrOllie86 2 days ago
@MrOllie86
Most of your questions have been answered. Building 7, flight 75, NORAD have all been answered. I don't know what can be done to answer your questions about the molten metal. And the govt really does fan the flames of conspiracists - by snatching up all the security footage around the Pentagon. But have you looked for witness accounts on YouTube? There are scores of witness testimonies - of people who clearly saw an American Airlines 767, plus all of the physical evidence.
klrdotorg 2 days ago
@klrdotorg yeah but... all those people are in on it too... its the only conclusion that i can draw... every single witness is a highly trained black ops agent
threadysparrow 2 days ago
@threadysparrow
Lol ... yep, the list of co-conspirators keeps growing - doesn't it? Witnesses, first responders, universities, the entire media complex - with the exception of Alex Jones and some bloggers. The numbers are getting LARGE!
klrdotorg 2 days ago
@klrdotorg every single person in the world except for me is a paid government agent out to get me! THE MOON IS A GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACY!
threadysparrow 2 days ago 2
@MrOllie86 there is not 2 equal sides in this debate. one side is the side of rational evidence and the other side is the side of conjecture and huge leaps of faith
threadysparrow 2 days ago 2
9 11 was a false flag operation combined with 2 massives financial frauds (conduct by/for Dov Zackeim and Larry Silverstein) to create a powerfull event to justify that so called «war on terror». Trying to believe the government version is good for our consciousness on the short run, but the truth is going to hit us even harder when we realize what's been going on in this world since about a century. The starting point, in my opinion, was in december 23 1913 with the creation of ...........
timeforachange12 3 days ago
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9/11 pulling off the hoax
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Author2ShedsJackson 3 days ago
annnnd.... HOW long has it been since Fahrenheit 911 came out? Whether you say "the government" did it or did NOT do it, you're wrong either way! It wasn't OUR government, wake up sleeple! It was the zionist elites. Get America pissed off so we would go fight their enemies for them, and they get paid coming and going, duh! It's zionist banksters that finance the war on both sides, Hello, McFly!?! And then the tax payers have to pay it back. YOU paid for 9/11 one way or another. Have a nice day.
SuperSkyster 3 days ago
Wow do people still believe terrorists did this? Lmfao that's almost as funny as the belief in God
The0rangePanda 4 days ago
@The0rangePanda You're an atheist too stupid! I’m an engineer and an engineer are 3 million in the U.S. and everyone in my country, Brazil, and throughout the world that a college degree and is not sick, Communist and Nazi. Least in Muslim countries, Cuba, Venezuela, Ecuador, Nicaragua and the Putin government that rules the RT. And his person.
aczjbr 4 days ago
The World Trade Center never existed, it was a mass illusion projected by projectors. For thirty years, people thought that there were two large buildings down in lower Manhattan. Look at the evidence! There is no proof that the those buildings ever existed!
TheJoeyD27 4 days ago
Congress to reopen anything to clear Al-Qaida. The A&E already been born defeated. As well as its false science.
aczjbr 5 days ago
The minions of A&E. No university, research centers, technical journals, scientists, associations of engineers, pilots, architects, firefighters and medical believe the lies and the demolition of the A&E. The same in Asia, Oceania, Canada, Europe and South America. The list below is today. I have the link of all. Always find more on the internet. There evidence against the towers and WTC7.Only 0,0001% of U.S. engineers are in A&E. Without the universities the A&E will never convince the U.S.
aczjbr 5 days ago
New York City Fire Department
Fort Myer Fire Department.
International Association of Fire Chiefs
International Association of Fire Fighters
Arlington Professional Fire Fighters Association, IAFF; Arlington.
Fairfax County Fire and Rescue,
New York City Department of Environmental Protection.
aczjbr 5 days ago
Kappler Safety Group
InterAgency Board for Equipment Standardization and InterOperability
Emergency Medical Services, Oklahoma City Fire Department.
Science & Technology Policy Institute Rand
North Carolina State University, Center for Research Textile Protection & Comfort
Washington State Urban Search and Rescue
Occupational Health & Environmental Safety, 3M Company.
New York City Department of Environmental Protection.
New York City Office of Emergency Management.
Kappler Safety Group
aczjbr 5 days ago
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Bechtel Group, Inc.
Oklahoma City National Memorial Institute for the Prevention of Terrorism
Department of Emergency Medicine, University of Massachusetts Memorial Medical Center;
American College of Medical Toxicology;
ArchitectureWeek . com
Fire Protection Engineering . com
McGraw-Hill Construction Online
NFPA . ORG . FOR
Scientific American . com
aczjbr 5 days ago
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aczjbr 5 days ago
Enr.com - Engeneerin news
PDHengineer . com
Journal of Engineering Mechanics ASCE
Popular Mechanics
Skeptic . com
Applied Research Associates, Inc.
Century Dynamics, Inc.Concord,CA,
Cagley & Associates, Consulting Structural Engineers, Rockville, Montgomery, Maryland,
Thornton-Tomasetti Engineers, NY, NY
DeStefano Associates, and is a Partner in the firm of Coastal Engineering Partners.
aczjbr 5 days ago
Simpson Gumpertz & Heger, Inc., San Francisco, CA
Myers, Houghton & Partners, Inc. Structural Engineers, Long Beach CA
Teng & Associates, Inc. in Chicago.
American Institute of Steel Construction Inc, Chicago(AISC),
American Society of Civil Engineers(ASCE),123,000 members,
American Institute of Architects(AIA),80,000 members
American Concrete Institute(ACI),20,000 members spanning 108 countries.
American Council Of Engineering Companies(ACEC),6,000 independent engineering companies
aczjbr 5 days ago
American Society of Mechanical Engineers(ASME),120,000 members
American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics(AIAA),35,000 members
American Institute of Chemical Engineers(AIChE),40,000 members
American Standards Institute(ANSI),125 mil empresas e 3.500 mil members,
Association of de Wall & Ceiling Industry,2.000 members that are primarily wall and ceiling contractors
Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat (CTBUH),
aczjbr 5 days ago
Department of Design and Construction(DDC) in NY,1,200 members
International Union of Operating Engineers, Canada & USA, Training Center,
Geneva College is a comprehensive Christian college of the arts, sciences and professional studies. Beaver Falls, PA.
International Metallographic Society,
Institute of Structural Engineers Association of New York (SEAoNY),
Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE), 370,000 members
Minerals, Metals & Materials Society,15,000 members
aczjbr 5 days ago
National Council of Structural Engineers Associations (NCSEA),12 mil members,
National Fire Protection Association (NFPA),70,000 individuals around the world,
Structural Engineering Institute (SEI),
Society for Fire Protection Engineering (SFPE),
Atlantic International University, Civil Engineering Department, Miami
Columbia University, Foundation School of Engineering and Applied Science
California Polytechnic State University, Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering
aczjbr 5 days ago
Cornell University, School Civil and Environmental Engineering & Department of Crop Soil Sciencies
Florida International University, School Civil and Environmental Engineering
Lehigh University, Department Civil Engineering
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), Engineering Department,
Michigan State University, Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering
Northwestern University, Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering & Research Experiences for Teachers Program
aczjbr 5 days ago
National Academy of Engineering,
Princeton University, Department of Civil & Environmental Engineering
Pennsylvania State University, Protective technology center & College of Engineering,
State University of New York at Albany, Doctor of Arts & architecture
Stanford University, Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering,
Syracuse University, Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering,
aczjbr 5 days ago
Ohio State University. Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering and Geodetic
University of Akron, Department of Mechanical Engineering
University of Arizona, Engineering Civil Department,
University of Colorado, Engineering Civil Department,
University of Chicago, NORC at the Department of Security, Energy, and Environment
University of Delaware, Department of Sociology, Criminal Justice, Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering
aczjbr 5 days ago
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University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering,
University of Perdue, School of Civil Engineering,
University of Texas at El Paso, Department of Computer, Department of Civil Engineering, Science & Department of Public Administration,
University of Notre Dame, Department of Civil Engineering and Geological Sciences and the Student Chapter of the Earthquake Engineering Research Institute
aczjbr 5 days ago
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Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University,
Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Department of Civil Engineering
Washington State University; Department of Political Science, Criminal Justice, School of Electrical Engineering & Computer Science.
Youngstown State University, Banco de Dados de Pesquisas Tecnológicas (TRD) & Copper Data Center (CDC)
aczjbr 5 days ago
thanks, i'll watch it and i'll let you know what i think.
bellijklh 5 days ago
Rhetoric Fail
hkasko 5 days ago
If you don't know 9/11 was an inside job by now you are officially retarded
TruthHurts9111111 6 days ago
we all know it was an inside job. at least I hope we do. ILLUMINATI SATANIC MAGICK RITUAL SACRIFICE!!!!
ihatecon 1 week ago
This is about the plane that hit the Empire State Building: watch?v=MzCygjiLMfw
xander7ful 1 week ago
People need to keep in mind that THE OFFICIAL story of what happend on 911 ( how the towers fell) was issued by your government.
The original explanation of the science behind the towers falling ( the metal burning etc) all those fantasy explanations-- ALL made official by your government.
A government that declaired WAR by using 911 as propaganda
masonTganes 1 week ago 2
@fast2ghl owz about you get your narrow minded head outa your arse,okay first time a jet hit a sky scraper loaded with fuel blah de blah..... 3 buildings colapsed into their own footprint at freefall speed with explosives going off,theres so much more witch you need to look ur lazy arse into before commenting on shit u clearly no fuckall about....stop beliving your tv an find out for youself.
Stukenny46 1 week ago
Your whole world is filled up with the demonic scum all around you. You absorb it all in your sub conscience then it's implemented into your slave world by you consenting to conformity. You will make no difference just complain about what people are smoking.
anakinsolojedi 1 week ago
LMAO @ this video. Whatever you guys are somoking, I want some !
47927411D 1 week ago
This guy is so full of BS... Everything he says can be explained logically. YES conspiracy theories are great to read, but for the most part they don't hold true in any way, hence they are theories. GIVE IT UP PEOPLE these buildings were hit by 767's, larger planes then they were ever intended to withstand an impact from. He's right no buildings have ever fallen from plane impact because no buildings in history before 911 had ever been hit by fully fueled 767's traveling at 500mph!
fast2ghl 1 week ago
@fast2ghl criminal thinking.
Ochibason 1 week ago
@fast2ghl then what about WTC 7, no planes hit this building.What about the witness testomonies, the witnesses who died, or just vanished, and so much more that you have chosen to ignore because you are comfortable blaming who you are predisposed and conditioned to hate. I pity you.
preciousmetalz 1 week ago
@fast2ghl It does not matter what hit them. Those buildings are steel frame which means they are the strongest in the world. All the floors below the impact areas are undamaged and the buildings goes down in free fall speed as if those floor offered zero resistance. Sorry mate, but as much as it sucks, i just cannot happen.
wealthmaster71 1 week ago
@fast2ghl most important is not how big was the plane, but what it was made of... if u was smarter u would check that out before embarassing urself.
Kpac21c 1 week ago
these pictures show nothing new, we've all already seen the clouds of dust.
she is asking him questions as if he is some kind of authority or as if he has a clue of what he's talking about.
bellijklh 1 week ago 2
The US government can never acknowledge that scientists are right about the controlled demolition. No matter how many facts are proven.
IF they did imagine the fallout?
People who are sheep beleive in everything their government tells them.
IF you beleive JFK was killed by Oswald. then there is no point talking about 911.
masonTganes 1 week ago
@masonTganes Amen
theoneb22000 1 week ago
I bet 90% of the people on youtube dont even know that WCT7 (the 3rd building) was NOT hit by a plane but just happend to fall ( at the rate of gravity) at 5pm.
A building which had a command center inside it.
Tell me how a 40 story building NOT hit by a plane or jet fuel can fall at the rate of gravity?
WC7 IS THE KEY TO EVERYTHING.
Those 3 buildings fell due to controlled demolition. PERIOD.
Yes the planes hit. duh. But that was deflection.
masonTganes 1 week ago
@masonTganes
"Tell me how a 40 story building NOT hit by a plane or jet fuel can fall at the rate of gravity?"
It was heavily damaged by falling debris from the tower collapses. It caught fire, and burned for hours. It was fed, in part, by pressurized diesel lines that fed the bldg's generators. The sprinklers didn't work, and the fire burned uncontrolled. The firemen knew if was going to fail. It did.
What else do you want to know?
klrdotorg 1 week ago
@klrdotorg Only problem is that the official NIST report said the collapse wasnt due to fire. So who is right? You or the NIST? Id say you as well as NIST are full of it.
theoneb22000 1 week ago
@theoneb22000
That's not what NIST said. NIST said the main reason for the failure of Building 7 was - uncontrolled fire.
klrdotorg 1 week ago
@klrdotorg I think google can solve this argument. Please quote that for me in thier exact words please. I dare you
theoneb22000 1 week ago
@theoneb22000
"The heat from the uncontrolled fires caused steel floor beams and girders to thermally expand, leading to a chain of events that caused a key structural column to fail. The failure of this structural column then initiated a fire-induced progressive collapse of the entire building."
~ "Questions and Answers about the NIST WTC 7 Investigation (9/17/2010, ARCHIVE, incorporated into 9/19/2011 update) NIST Public and Business Affairs website.
klrdotorg 1 week ago
@klrdotorg Updated in 2011?????? I need something from the investgation done within the first two years. Not some notes added 10 years later lol. See my point
theoneb22000 1 week ago
@theoneb22000
The NIST report on WTC 7 wasn't complete in the first couple of years. So no, I don't see your point. You asked for a quote (in fact you dared me) -- I gave you one ... from NIST.
klrdotorg 1 week ago
@klrdotorg First couple years no but it was complete well before 2010/2011 which is when that quote you provided was added. So a new investigation was done in 2010? I dont think so
theoneb22000 1 week ago
@theoneb22000
No. A new investigation was not done in 2010. You're looking for an out.
klrdotorg 1 week ago
@klrdotorg No one is looking for an out I have been to Iraq 5 times and have seen with my own eyes this whole thing is BS. There is no change of subject this is all connected. Molten metal was found
theoneb22000 1 week ago
@klrdotorg "Experts" didnt find evidence because they didnt look. Figure out who Barry Jennings is yet?
theoneb22000 1 week ago
@klrdotorg I joined the Army in 2002 after 9/11 and was blind as well I love my country but I know that there is an evil force controling it and will never be stopped as long as people like you exist
theoneb22000 1 week ago
@theoneb22000 I thank you for serving our country.
But as a vet do you think A) there was controlled demo? and B) this war is about OIL & using 911 as an excuse to go to war?
There are lots of countries in the world that are worse off than iraq
masonTganes 1 week ago
@masonTganes Yes it was controled but typical go boom explosives werent the only thing used if used at all. Search for "Ther Great Thermate Debate" that should explain everything.
theoneb22000 1 week ago
@masonTganes I think this is much much bigger than just oil. Its about taking away the rights of every person globally We Kill Lybian president and next day we leave Iraq. We have people in Africa now
theoneb22000 1 week ago 2
@theoneb22000
Thanks for your service. I'm sorry I don't agree with you. I've looked at both sides of the debate. Your side has no evidence, only anomolies and theories.
klrdotorg 1 week ago
@theoneb22000
The real "tell" in the "truther" arguments. Is their repeated ignoring of important evidence that shoots their theories to hell. They pretend it doesn't exist, but it does.
klrdotorg 1 week ago
@klrdotorg Ok well this is two sides of the same coin. I hope we all wan the truth. The "truther" movement as you call it used simple physics in thier arguments while the "official" story literally
theoneb22000 1 week ago
@klrdotorg made up ther theorys required to justify what happened. Thats my problem. I frankly dont car who what when why. I just know I was lied too and would die defending that. Fema and Nist didnt
theoneb22000 1 week ago
@klrdotorg even agree what happend because noe of thier therys were based off of the evidence. #1 most was moved out #2 they used a computer program to similate what happened fact
theoneb22000 1 week ago
@theoneb22000
Knock yourselves out guys. I'm going to bed. Just remember - your argument is supported by less than 1% of the experts. Do you really believe you r the only smart people? Ur not.
klrdotorg 1 week ago
@theoneb22000
It would take me 20 posts to list all the professional organizations & major universities that have studied 9/11. They all support the official story ... except A&E for 911 Truth.
klrdotorg 1 week ago
@klrdotorg Thats simple our country is full of pussies who care more about keeping thier job than telling the truth. And hear we go with "thats stupid" why does it alway go there?
theoneb22000 1 week ago
So Barry Jennings isnt important Why because the govt didnt label him an "expert" thats the problem with this country You dont need to be an expert to see, hear and smell a rat Just follow the cheese
theoneb22000 1 week ago
@klrdotorg Please google Barry Jennings and tell me why he is dead
theoneb22000 1 week ago
@klrdotorg If all the evidence wasnt shipped off to China before an investigation could be done. There would be no need to debate what happened. Yet It was I guess planes fit in 5M holes too, Pentagon
theoneb22000 1 week ago
@theoneb22000
The Pentagon was hit by Flight 77. The evidence to support this is undeniable ... unless you get your info from truther sites. I notice you like to change topics.
klrdotorg 1 week ago
@klrdotorg So you know about the magic 5M hole huh One with the almost perfect circle exit hole huh. The most watched building in the world releases a 2 Frame per sec vid and says theres the plane lol
theoneb22000 1 week ago
@theoneb22000
Your "lol"s make you seem like such a serious person.
klrdotorg 1 week ago
@klrdotorg You have to laugh to keep from beting so upset. Your use of "" is just as good as an lol. lol I cant be serious with a person who refuses to see the thruth. The govt has lied before fact
theoneb22000 1 week ago
@theoneb22000
Yes. The govt has lied before. So? You guys make that stupid leap. It's dumb. Look at the real evidence - not just truther bullshit - and you'll get a handle on what happened.
klrdotorg 1 week ago
@klrdotorg When you have answers to conspiracy theories given to you by the government---- um DUH they will twist the truth because they have the power to do so.
Do you think Bush is going to say there was controled demo involved?
The proof cant be released officially on FOX NEWS.
You MUST beleive in the THOUSANDS of scientists from across the planet that are trying to tell this country its impossible "freefall at the rate of gravity"
masonTganes 1 week ago
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theoneb22000 1 week ago
@masonTganes Either they are a plant or blind. I hope they wake up and soon
theoneb22000 1 week ago
@masonTganes
How many "THOUSANDS" are you talking about? The two or three thousand "scientists" - some of whom are tree doctors? The overwhelming majority of experts support the official story.
klrdotorg 1 week ago
@klrdotorg Im still waiting for you to figure out who Barry Jennings is
theoneb22000 1 week ago
@theoneb22000
I've been down the "Barry Jennings" road before. You're sold on weak shit like that. I'm not. Why is Alex Jones still breathing?
klrdotorg 1 week ago
@klrdotorg You beleive in OSWALD kiling the president... you are not in reality
We cant talk about 911 if you beleive OSWALD killed JFK.
masonTganes 1 week ago
@masonTganes
We've already covered this. Oswald shot JFK. It's a done deal. You want to call me nuts for believing what the evidence clearly points to. Go ahead.
klrdotorg 1 week ago
@klrdotorg Evidence has proven OSWALD could NOT have shot FJK.
Offical statements by our government.. admitting our goverment killed JFK will never happen.
Official statements by our government - admitting there was controled demo on 911 CANT happen even if its proven to be true.
masonTganes 1 week ago
@klrdotorg Can you get me a copy of NIST's computer model for the collapse of WTC7? Oh, wait, no you can't because they refuse to release the model or any of the parameters used. What sort of corrupt science doesn't allow anyone else to examine the findings?
ComicPenius 5 days ago
@ComicPenius
"aczjbr" just posted several lists of groups that have studied 9/11. Look at the long list of professional and media organizations, and universties that have studied the events of 9/11 - and accept the "official story".
Look at the list of prestigious schools. Did all those universities and engineering organizations miss school the day they taught physics and metalurgy? That's what you would have us believe. I don't think so. It's not just the govt.
klrdotorg 5 days ago
@klrdotorg
All of the organizations in that list have published studies confirming that the World Trade Center did not fall from the use of explosives? List 5
NO ONE tested for explosives! Despite the debris meeting every characteristic of High Order Damage, despite terrorists using bombs at the WTC before and this was allegedly terrorists, despite it being common practice to perform chemical tests for explosive residues, and this was the largest building failure investigation EVER!
smitty121981 4 days ago
@smitty121981You miss!Of the 3 million engineers Yankees against their demolition and the false science of A&E,has experts in demolition.In my country,only Nazis, Communists and religious fanatics with fucking the iluminatti agree with you and A&E.I did military service and know to plant explosive without anybody and without holes,only by magic.The A&E mind as explosion noises.Were the floors of caving 2400T.No
aczjbr 4 days ago
@smitty121981 building collapses in silence. I've seen it in 15-storey buildings in earthquakes in Peru. Was in infernal noise. On 5 continents, engineer and scientists reject its demolition the Jet and from top to bottom with magic dirt and sand. The normal is unlike to controls where will fall with interdiction of building for months. In the towers would be 12 months for each one. Sending a video of an expert in demolition Yankee and Europe.
aczjbr 4 days ago
@smitty121981 ImplosionworldCom
CRITICAL ANALYSIS OF DE COLLAPSE OF THE WTC TOWERS 1,2 & 7 FROM AND CONVENTIONAL DEMOLITION INDUSTRY VIEWPOINT
BY BRENT BLANCHARD, AUGUST 8, 2006
Senior Editor for Implosionworldcom and Director of Field Operations at Protec Documentation .
w w w . jod911 . com /WTC%20COLLAPSE%20STUDY%20BBlanchard%208-8-06.pdf
CRT Twin Towers Brent Blanchard: /watch?v=972ETepp4GI
aczjbr 4 days ago
@aczjbr
I had a horrible time trying to read your broken english, but the best thing you did to state your case was to post an opinion paper written by only ONE person! Compare that to the THOUSANDS of architects and engineers that say the exact opposite - that the WTC was demolished with explosives!
smitty121981 4 days ago
@smitty121981 Sorry my English. Thousands? Where? My English is bad and you don't know how to count. 3 million of U.S. engineers less 1500? No! A&E petitions to the US Congress signed a 646 and 20% aren't U.S. citizens. So would be 3 million fewer 516. All U.S. universities and all associations of architects, engineer, riders are against A&E. As well as in Europe, Canada, Asia, Oceania and South America. Thousands?
aczjbr 4 days ago 2
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@aczjbr
"Thousands?" Yes, 1500 can be correctly expressed as "thousands"
"All U.S. universities and all associations of architects, engineer, riders are against A&E." That is completely FALSE. Can you name even ONE that specifically made a statement against AE911Truth? Remember that silence does NOT mean they automatically agree with you!
smitty121981 4 days ago
@smitty121981 See two pages ago this forum who this against you and the false science of A&E. It is so in over four continents.
aczjbr 4 days ago
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@smitty121981
"Compare that to the THOUSANDS of architects and engineers that say the exact opposite - that the WTC was demolished with explosives!"
Hey, how many "THOUSANDS" of A&E's for Truth are we talking about? Two? You're badly over-playing your hand sport. They are considerably less than 1% of A&E's ... the fringe. There are nuts and crackpots in every profession -- that's what your heroes are - the nuts. It wasn't demo -- it was planes and fire, period.
klrdotorg 4 days ago
@smitty121981 you're right smitty !
timeforachange12 3 days ago
@smitty121981 The TRUTH of A&E, FRAUD, URGENT, FRANCE
Effondrement des tours Jumelles
The analysis of the explosives expert Jowenko was used by conspiracy theorists to show that WTC7 was deliberately destroyed. In the same interview, he explains that the controlled demolition of the twin towers is impossible. Dynamite exploded immediately, and it would take a year to put everything in place. In English.
w w w . dailymotion . com / video / x2l5k9_effondrement-des-tours-jumelles_news
aczjbr 4 days ago
@klrdotorg all your responses are incorrect. No building can fall perfectly at the rate of gravity without controled demolition.
NOT WT7.
and the twin towers were built to NOT pankack when a plane hits the top of it.
They were built to endure such a thing. Its scientificly PROVEN to be impossible for any building to fall at the rate of gravity.
GOOGLE IT. how many ways can it be proven to people.
masonTganes 1 week ago
@klrdotorg i meant pancacake.
masonTganes 1 week ago
Norwegian guy. I have to agree with you. My cat in the hat book by Dr. Zeus dose say when a Jet liner hits a building it falls over, especially a building with 10,000 X more mass than the jet. Bldg 7. So therefor it should start folding in on itself at the top and then leave a irregular pattern of failure. 20 feet sticking up on the north side, 30 feet up on the south side, 6 feet on the west side, and 4 inches on the east. No it was designed to pancake if a jet hit it. RIGHT! Smart thinking.
txguynnh 1 week ago
@txguynnh When the plane hit, the inside of the building caught fire along with the jet fuel. Steel might not burn but it will expand and weaken when exposed to high temperatures. The framework is like everything else only as strong as the weakest link. When one part of the framework began to bend, the other parts had to take over, and began to bend, and so its continues until things snaps. The top part of the building falls down on the floor below the impact, which...
TheLordofNorwegians 1 week ago 2
@txguynnh ...gives in and smash down on the floor below, which falls down on the floor below, which falls down on the floor below and so on always with greater and greater power, until the collapse reaches the ground and spread outward. Its very similar to the way they demolish buildings. They take out the key points holding the building up and let gravity do the rest. The only difference is that they begin at the bottom, not the top
TheLordofNorwegians 1 week ago 2
Classic conspiracy theory data mining and cherry picking -- Find a few minor anomalies that superficially support your hypothesis while completely disregarding mountains of evidence that contradict it. Truthers have joined an exclusive club that includes Moon Hoaxers, JFK Cover-uppers, Birthers and Holocaust Deniers.
mhansl 1 week ago 4
@mhansl
Well said!! And you're right ... they are special, and their club is exclusive.
:)
klrdotorg 1 week ago
@mhansl JFK was killed by his own government. if you beleive Oswald had a magic bulllet then theres no point in trying to talk about 911.
Beleive EVERYTHNG your government tells you and you are the sheep following the herd.
masonTganes 1 week ago
No, explosives will not turn buildings to dust. Explosives, the kind used in demolition, cause a building to collapse on itself which then breaks into smaller chunks. Demolitions also leave seismic evidence (P and S waves). All the buildings in WTC left no P and S waves. This is because the buildings literally turned into dust before they hit the ground. Demolition cannot do this - and certainly not fire.
mujaku 1 week ago 2