How do you deal with the abdominal cramps and gas? Everyone who has done something like this and has made drastic changes in their eating habits and doctors assure me that my body will get used to it and it never does. The pain, nausea, gas, and stomach distension are so intense and it's hard enough living that kind of lifestyle.
What I'm talking about is introducing more fibre into my diet. I have tried veganism, vegetarianism, high-protein/high-fat/low-carb, high-protein/low-fat/low-carb, calorie restriction, liquid diets and fasting. So far, the one that works for weight loss the most is severe calorie restriction. When you eat a lot of low-calorie food that is nutritionally dense, it's filled with so much water and fibre that my system has never gotten used to it.
i'm thinking of starting a raw food diet but ive read that fruit makes u fat bcs of the fructose.. that it is bad for the blood sugar but i love fruit and veggies so.. i don't know
I'll have to try your pizza idea. I love your videos. I microwave my fresh green beans. Is that bad? should I just boil them instead? I am very excited too I lost 30 Lbs in 3 1/2 months. I did mess up becuase I recently had tater tots. I won't mess up from this piont on. You motivated me thank you.
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i'm not on a diet, I'm not going on one, I eat what I want when I' m hungry and I'm slim. I don't have any kind of secret or a faster metabolism than anyone else, diets mess up your metabolism, they messed up mine and my head with it in 17 years of eating disorders. Raw pizza? nah thanx, rather have a real one thanx... and I suspect you would too.
Raw food rocks...When I go to Burger King these day, I always get a large grilled chicken salad instead of a burger...Once in awhile I'll have a burger, but those times are becoming fewer and more far apart...I always feel great after I eat raw food and I find myself craving it more and more...I still eat cooked food, but I cook it as healthfully as possible and try to use the freshest ingredients...I want to switch from meat to tofu while balancing that with my raw food consumption...Raw rocks!
Your reason you didn't feel well..and you were craving cooked food...was because your carbs were too low....And for weight loss..every four days you want to increase ur carbs...I'm vegan as well...but I eat cooked foods...and raw of course......Great video..and I loved the way you said Pizza...Peeeeeeete-za....Chow on...~Peace.
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no ! i'm 12 and i'm a streetperformer and i was vegan for 6 years and now i'm starting to eat raw , i pay for my big family and i'm not rich! its good!!
i do fasting for 6 days too because it cleans your body from chemicals,believe me and start to study books!
That's all pretty true but why are you a street performer if you're only 12?
Lol. I'm a street performer/former street performer current gigging musicians, I'm vegan and mostly raw now... that's funny you posted that, I thought I was the only one.
thanks fastinggurl31, after visiting 50 sites and watching 300 videos , I did what you said just start - eating fruit in the morning, and a salad for lunch, well I am doing that, and i like it. It is way cheaper to eat and i feel good more often now, so thanks again
look up rawlafel (or raw falafel) and raw cashew "cheese" ! mmm. you can make chocolate cake and mousse and stuff raw too, anything! There are so many things. double chocolate cookies with a layer of sweet almond butter in the center. all raw vegan! :)
You actually can...but when you are a raw foodist for longer period you usually don't need to substitute these things ;-)
Like me...I don't even miss cakes and stuff and I'm 100% raw. I don't need special recipes. But these recipes are very good for people who are switching from cooked to raw. It helps..
I don't mean substitutes, these cakes and speads that taste "cheesy" or like whatever else, they are the real thing themselves. It's just like any other type of food, you can spend a bit of extra time with it to make it extra special (i.e. dehydrated flax crackers) or eat things plain.
You pizza looks awesome btw!! I went to a big raw party this weekend actually where there was raw vegan chocolate fondue and pizza that was simelar looking to yours... SO GOOD!! What a coincidence.
I don't know if people watching this will fully understand how awesome that pizza is ^^ it's not only the best tasting pizza ever but also the most fulfilling.
I'd gotten out of being mostly raw for the last few months, but I feel so amazing after coming back from that party. It was like a wake-up call, along with your message. I'm going back to mostly raw now... I can't wait to get a hold of a dehydrator.
& that is so cool that you sprout your own grains! It's time for me to start...
I thought it looked GREAT!! We bought our juicer and food processor yesterday, but they didn't have a dehydrator ... stupid small town. Thanks for making these videos!
I'm gonna try raw, I have seen so many videos on you tube about eating raw and at first I was scared but I really want to try it so I am starting tomorrow :).
Your pizza looks really nice!
Did I hear right?! you said you picked your daughter up from her work? you look like your about 21/22! that's shocking to think you have a daughter that is old enough to work lol. The raw life style obviously has great benefits i guess :).
I use an Excalibur 9 tray dehydrator. The tray are large and square google it a get it from alissacohendotcom. It is THE best dehydrator on the market right now!
Actually, Organic saves us money, even if its not in the store, because organic veggies and fruit cost less to process, cose less to grow and overall save us from doctors and the costs of medication from eating processed or pesticide laced foods. :) It may not seem like it but you're doing good if you choose organic. Eventually all food will be organic, and inexpensive. ;)
Who told you that?? I have PCOS too and as far as I know, that is BS. You should be following a diebetic diet, which includes a fruit with every supper, and for snacks. You have to watch your refined sugars..like processed white crap.
I have PCOS as well, and you're right-I'm only supposed to stay away from refined sugars and carbohydrates. Not too sure about eating fruits as snacks and for supper, my sister is a Type 1 diabetic, and she cannot eat that way, or her blood sugar will sky rocket. Still that may be unique to her diet. But as was mentioned in the video, any dietary plan that eliminates fruit/veggies is not worth it!
Yeah, a type 1 diabetic would have to be careful, I am talking about type two. people with PCOS have insulin resistance which is pre diabetes (type 2).
i'd love to do this but dehydrators are so much money. how exactly do you make the crust?? could you post the whole recipie so we can see how easy it actually is before buying the cookbook/ equipment?
Like I told Jill, these videos that you chicks are making totally rock! I eat fruit and celery and bell peppers like they are going out of style! I love organics however I can't afford everthing organic but for the most part just sticking with fresh fruits and veggies. Through the day and soup at night with another big salad is what I have mostly everyday. Loving this!
Who knew Uncooking could be so much fun! My fiance says the same thing about it being Gourmet Raw Food. I'm going to be making tacos for the first time this weekend and a cheesecake for my birthday on Monday. I'm loving it! I don't have a dehyrator right now I want to try the recipes that don't need one first. Thanks for posting such an informative video and you have such a fun loving energy :-)
I finally got to this video! Damn. I love that your posting these informational videos. I love it. I got 3 books today. I will just call you and let you know what I got. I'm so excited! Love ya girl! I can't wait to make this pizza! YAY!
Yay for you!! I am on Kimkins hardcore starting tomorrow. My sister and I took a little break over the summer but she is doing a cleanse right now and then onto Kimkins again. We love Kimkins, it works soo well for our bodies and we feel amazing!! I would love to be raw but it is soo hard when making dinner for my fiance. My daughter is practically raw and she is only 2. She LOVES fruit and uncooked veggies. Amazing what they choose at such an early age.
Hey Kimkins works. I did it this summer as you know and I lost 20 lbs FAST! I decided to go back to raw b/c I can do it for life. Kimkins I could not take it after awhile. I just did not feel as well. My motto is do what works for YOU!
I am so jealous! I can't wait to get one. I'm saving up for a dehydrator right now ;) can't wait to have those strawberry crepes in Alyssa's book. I'm ordering a Saladacco slicer tomorrow so I can make the zucchini pasta. I made that in the past, but used a veggie peeler to make the "noodles". Your pizza looked good girl! Can't wait to do my shopping this weekend and stock up ;)
Girl I am making those crepes this weekend! I will definitely take a pic of it for you! I still need the saladaco .....I almost have all the equipment I need =)
Can you UPS me some crepes? :D I'm ordering the saladaco tomorrow...yay! I still need the dehydrator, juicer...and one day, a Vitamix, but I'll settle for the blender for now ;) It does the trick. I'm totally excited to start Monday. Sunday I'm doing all my shopping. I have lots of recipes picked out for this next week :)
I don't understand. If it was raw, then how could it smell like Pizza? Are you using a cheese substitute? I am Vegetarian, so can eat eggs and dairy, but am thinking of cutting that out and turn Vegan.
The pizza was dehydrated at 105 degrees so that all the live enzymes remain. Cook anything above 115 degrees and the enzymes die. The "cheese" is made out of nuts!
You're still using spices when you make Raw Pizza. That's why it still smells and tastes like pizza. It just doesn't have the same texture. I'm thinking I need to try this SOON!
lol silly random question - is it OK to eat raw mushrooms? Day two went ok.. but I had pasta (200 cals worth):( not good.. but I will have none of that tomoro!!
Guuurl!? You're skin looks TaDahh, I can't put word on it, AMAZING! Must be the raw food diet...WoW.. super smooth and clean..I will really decide on trying raw food.. Thank you for posting this, good luck, well you don't need it, you rock anyway !
i just had a raw pizza in a restoraunt and it was the best pizza i have ever had.. totally high fat but so fun to do this from time to time :D
DarlingKaya 1 month ago
i am 80% juicing.... 20 % turkey..
burbanmadness 1 year ago
How do you deal with the abdominal cramps and gas? Everyone who has done something like this and has made drastic changes in their eating habits and doctors assure me that my body will get used to it and it never does. The pain, nausea, gas, and stomach distension are so intense and it's hard enough living that kind of lifestyle.
giaofnature 1 year ago
@giaofnature how was your previous diet? that's good you consulted your doctor.
RealspitHiphop604 1 year ago
@RealspitHiphop604
What I'm talking about is introducing more fibre into my diet. I have tried veganism, vegetarianism, high-protein/high-fat/low-carb, high-protein/low-fat/low-carb, calorie restriction, liquid diets and fasting. So far, the one that works for weight loss the most is severe calorie restriction. When you eat a lot of low-calorie food that is nutritionally dense, it's filled with so much water and fibre that my system has never gotten used to it.
giaofnature 1 year ago
Hey fastinggurl31, still raw?
wondervamp 1 year ago
what's raw food i mean what is it that your doing not cooking the food raw meat let me know details about the raw diet.
PRmam1 1 year ago
what's raw food i mean what is it that your doing not cooking the food raw meat let me know details about the raw diet.
PRmam1 1 year ago
i'm thinking of starting a raw food diet but ive read that fruit makes u fat bcs of the fructose.. that it is bad for the blood sugar but i love fruit and veggies so.. i don't know
deliight 1 year ago
there has not been a day where ive been 100% raw, but i have been about 98%!
but in a few days im gonna start being 100% wish me luck
muzicluva000 2 years ago
Fruit, alot is hybrid and has far more sugar in than the original wild fruit form.
Feeds fungus/Candida albicans, and contains fungus.
Catherine8here 2 years ago
there is a yummy advertisment by your video for A1 steak sauce with a big juicy burger & bun. LOL
shsu97 2 years ago
Looks great!!
l3R1TN3Y 2 years ago
wow you look so young! i didn't believe it when you said you had a daughter!!! xo
JoeyandJosh 2 years ago 4
I'll have to try your pizza idea. I love your videos. I microwave my fresh green beans. Is that bad? should I just boil them instead? I am very excited too I lost 30 Lbs in 3 1/2 months. I did mess up becuase I recently had tater tots. I won't mess up from this piont on. You motivated me thank you.
Drumbrat77 2 years ago
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i'm not on a diet, I'm not going on one, I eat what I want when I' m hungry and I'm slim. I don't have any kind of secret or a faster metabolism than anyone else, diets mess up your metabolism, they messed up mine and my head with it in 17 years of eating disorders. Raw pizza? nah thanx, rather have a real one thanx... and I suspect you would too.
Missymog3 2 years ago
the pizza does NOT look good. LOL
jmlw3 2 years ago
Raw food rocks...When I go to Burger King these day, I always get a large grilled chicken salad instead of a burger...Once in awhile I'll have a burger, but those times are becoming fewer and more far apart...I always feel great after I eat raw food and I find myself craving it more and more...I still eat cooked food, but I cook it as healthfully as possible and try to use the freshest ingredients...I want to switch from meat to tofu while balancing that with my raw food consumption...Raw rocks!
fishandfestival 2 years ago
tofu is bewared
billgermany2000 2 years ago
i am sorry but you don't look like you have a daughter with a job!!
apatte4975 2 years ago
how do you make the pizza?
jd0379 2 years ago
did she answer this?
shsu97 2 years ago
Your reason you didn't feel well..and you were craving cooked food...was because your carbs were too low....And for weight loss..every four days you want to increase ur carbs...I'm vegan as well...but I eat cooked foods...and raw of course......Great video..and I loved the way you said Pizza...Peeeeeeete-za....Chow on...~Peace.
RChuckNC 3 years ago 2
<3 im so happy for you girl!
I'm also staying 100% raw :)
all raw works for me!
truthprincesss 3 years ago
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pgy002 3 years ago
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and maybe you will get salamella, YAY!
DirtRider202 3 years ago
be careful with the fruits...its still sugar and high on teh glycemic index
also, keep in mind food combining =)
shasanni 3 years ago
is raw easy to afford. or do you have to be rich?
judemo1234 3 years ago
no ! i'm 12 and i'm a streetperformer and i was vegan for 6 years and now i'm starting to eat raw , i pay for my big family and i'm not rich! its good!!
i do fasting for 6 days too because it cleans your body from chemicals,believe me and start to study books!
TanyaRossLive 3 years ago 2
That's all pretty true but why are you a street performer if you're only 12?
Lol. I'm a street performer/former street performer current gigging musicians, I'm vegan and mostly raw now... that's funny you posted that, I thought I was the only one.
Maybe you were just joking though XD
Vegannibal 3 years ago
What is the book you are talking about called?
NREnger 3 years ago
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who wants to eat a raw pizza?
Isnt the dough chewy
OrientilsOnAcid 3 years ago
People that want to live longer silly
honeygood2 3 years ago
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You won't live longer eating raw, dipshit.
easternslavic 3 years ago
and that's what people who haven't tried it say.
Vegannibal 3 years ago
thanks fastinggurl31, after visiting 50 sites and watching 300 videos , I did what you said just start - eating fruit in the morning, and a salad for lunch, well I am doing that, and i like it. It is way cheaper to eat and i feel good more often now, so thanks again
zutekeela 3 years ago
love it, but I have alot of cookbooks, and would love to take a recipe, and convert it to raw, anyone have any ideas?
meow98 3 years ago
look up rawlafel (or raw falafel) and raw cashew "cheese" ! mmm. you can make chocolate cake and mousse and stuff raw too, anything! There are so many things. double chocolate cookies with a layer of sweet almond butter in the center. all raw vegan! :)
Vegannibal 3 years ago
You actually can...but when you are a raw foodist for longer period you usually don't need to substitute these things ;-)
Like me...I don't even miss cakes and stuff and I'm 100% raw. I don't need special recipes. But these recipes are very good for people who are switching from cooked to raw. It helps..
foxyraw 3 years ago
I don't mean substitutes, these cakes and speads that taste "cheesy" or like whatever else, they are the real thing themselves. It's just like any other type of food, you can spend a bit of extra time with it to make it extra special (i.e. dehydrated flax crackers) or eat things plain.
You pizza looks awesome btw!! I went to a big raw party this weekend actually where there was raw vegan chocolate fondue and pizza that was simelar looking to yours... SO GOOD!! What a coincidence.
Vegannibal 3 years ago
I don't know if people watching this will fully understand how awesome that pizza is ^^ it's not only the best tasting pizza ever but also the most fulfilling.
I'd gotten out of being mostly raw for the last few months, but I feel so amazing after coming back from that party. It was like a wake-up call, along with your message. I'm going back to mostly raw now... I can't wait to get a hold of a dehydrator.
& that is so cool that you sprout your own grains! It's time for me to start...
Vegannibal 3 years ago
show us how to make it !!!vid !!!
mmdghr 3 years ago
I thought it looked GREAT!! We bought our juicer and food processor yesterday, but they didn't have a dehydrator ... stupid small town. Thanks for making these videos!
Kiss Kiss
CAR
AnotherBoringCarRide 4 years ago
You can get an Excalibur food dehydrator online for $109. They're the best.
freedomsadvocate07 4 years ago
OOOOO THANK YOU!
AnotherBoringCarRide 4 years ago
mmm it looks good
saloneffects 4 years ago
i love your videos!!
annatacha 4 years ago
i made that pizza and it's the best pizza ever! yumO!
annatacha 4 years ago
agreed! I am coming on 4 months raw I feel so good! Love it
fastinggurl31 4 years ago
i've been raw for three months and it's great!
annatacha 4 years ago
guacamole & olive oil & lemon juice on salad- good - better than processed, bottled RANCH!!
who knows whats in the bottle anyways.
onegreeneye 4 years ago
Could you do a video on actually making the pizza would be interesting It looked so good
Thanks Oz
hopey2540 4 years ago
I'm gonna try raw, I have seen so many videos on you tube about eating raw and at first I was scared but I really want to try it so I am starting tomorrow :).
Your pizza looks really nice!
Did I hear right?! you said you picked your daughter up from her work? you look like your about 21/22! that's shocking to think you have a daughter that is old enough to work lol. The raw life style obviously has great benefits i guess :).
nggirl 4 years ago
Yep yep I have a 16 year old! Check out my videos raw 101 for the beginner guide to raw!
fastinggurl31 4 years ago
I love eating living foods, I always feel better. but I can never keep it up. Teach me wise one =D
OriginalOrangeeyes 4 years ago
if most dehyrators are small tray like things, how do you make a big round pizza?
lauren9748 4 years ago
I use an Excalibur 9 tray dehydrator. The tray are large and square google it a get it from alissacohendotcom. It is THE best dehydrator on the market right now!
fastinggurl31 4 years ago
sweet. I'm a vegan and this is gonna be fun. I never thought of going raw but I'm gonna now :]
santumeader 4 years ago
You feel great now you will feel FANTASTIC raw!
fastinggurl31 4 years ago
Wow you look so good! just glowing!! I'm glad to see you back with ur videos!! I really missed them!
roxygal48 4 years ago
Actually, Organic saves us money, even if its not in the store, because organic veggies and fruit cost less to process, cose less to grow and overall save us from doctors and the costs of medication from eating processed or pesticide laced foods. :) It may not seem like it but you're doing good if you choose organic. Eventually all food will be organic, and inexpensive. ;)
strangeseraph 4 years ago
I have PCOS and I was told that fruit is the worst thing for me to eat (out of healthy things, of course.. junk food is worse!)
Something about the natural sugars in fruit being bad for people with PCOS.
So I try to not eat a ton of fruit, though I love it. I eat lettuce and other veggies.. but fruit it out. -shrug-
smilesarahmae 4 years ago
Who told you that?? I have PCOS too and as far as I know, that is BS. You should be following a diebetic diet, which includes a fruit with every supper, and for snacks. You have to watch your refined sugars..like processed white crap.
LuthienC 4 years ago 2
I have PCOS as well, and you're right-I'm only supposed to stay away from refined sugars and carbohydrates. Not too sure about eating fruits as snacks and for supper, my sister is a Type 1 diabetic, and she cannot eat that way, or her blood sugar will sky rocket. Still that may be unique to her diet. But as was mentioned in the video, any dietary plan that eliminates fruit/veggies is not worth it!
danucal1984 4 years ago
Yeah, a type 1 diabetic would have to be careful, I am talking about type two. people with PCOS have insulin resistance which is pre diabetes (type 2).
LuthienC 4 years ago
i'd love to do this but dehydrators are so much money. how exactly do you make the crust?? could you post the whole recipie so we can see how easy it actually is before buying the cookbook/ equipment?
lauren9748 4 years ago
Like I told Jill, these videos that you chicks are making totally rock! I eat fruit and celery and bell peppers like they are going out of style! I love organics however I can't afford everthing organic but for the most part just sticking with fresh fruits and veggies. Through the day and soup at night with another big salad is what I have mostly everyday. Loving this!
Much Luv,
~ Roberta ~
theheadsgirl 4 years ago
great job christina! you should open up a raw food restaurant or better yet a take out service. what do you think?
kelgramm 4 years ago
Who knew Uncooking could be so much fun! My fiance says the same thing about it being Gourmet Raw Food. I'm going to be making tacos for the first time this weekend and a cheesecake for my birthday on Monday. I'm loving it! I don't have a dehyrator right now I want to try the recipes that don't need one first. Thanks for posting such an informative video and you have such a fun loving energy :-)
LishaMarie2003 4 years ago
DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I LOVE JANIS? I love her to bits!
sophiegirl1 4 years ago
YEP YEP I KNOW!! I love her too....y mom is 100% in LVOE with her too ..my whole life I heard Janis @ home !
fastinggurl31 4 years ago
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YAY on no lettuce! I really hate lettuce! Veggies are yummy! My favs! Concord grapes are so my favorite. I love them, always have!
sophiegirl1 4 years ago
I finally got to this video! Damn. I love that your posting these informational videos. I love it. I got 3 books today. I will just call you and let you know what I got. I'm so excited! Love ya girl! I can't wait to make this pizza! YAY!
sophiegirl1 4 years ago
Great video I have to try that recipe it look so good.
floeva 4 years ago
It was yummy and kept me from cheating!
fastinggurl31 4 years ago
Yay for you!! I am on Kimkins hardcore starting tomorrow. My sister and I took a little break over the summer but she is doing a cleanse right now and then onto Kimkins again. We love Kimkins, it works soo well for our bodies and we feel amazing!! I would love to be raw but it is soo hard when making dinner for my fiance. My daughter is practically raw and she is only 2. She LOVES fruit and uncooked veggies. Amazing what they choose at such an early age.
Take care!!
samiskulz 4 years ago
Hey Kimkins works. I did it this summer as you know and I lost 20 lbs FAST! I decided to go back to raw b/c I can do it for life. Kimkins I could not take it after awhile. I just did not feel as well. My motto is do what works for YOU!
fastinggurl31 4 years ago
I am so jealous! I can't wait to get one. I'm saving up for a dehydrator right now ;) can't wait to have those strawberry crepes in Alyssa's book. I'm ordering a Saladacco slicer tomorrow so I can make the zucchini pasta. I made that in the past, but used a veggie peeler to make the "noodles". Your pizza looked good girl! Can't wait to do my shopping this weekend and stock up ;)
Chicklettz 4 years ago
Girl I am making those crepes this weekend! I will definitely take a pic of it for you! I still need the saladaco .....I almost have all the equipment I need =)
fastinggurl31 4 years ago
Can you UPS me some crepes? :D I'm ordering the saladaco tomorrow...yay! I still need the dehydrator, juicer...and one day, a Vitamix, but I'll settle for the blender for now ;) It does the trick. I'm totally excited to start Monday. Sunday I'm doing all my shopping. I have lots of recipes picked out for this next week :)
Chicklettz 4 years ago
Glad you guys enjoyed the pizza!! Happy your so excited and ON A MISSION!
;-)
LisaLuluFufu 4 years ago
I don't understand. If it was raw, then how could it smell like Pizza? Are you using a cheese substitute? I am Vegetarian, so can eat eggs and dairy, but am thinking of cutting that out and turn Vegan.
Your Pizza looks great!
size0life 4 years ago
The pizza was dehydrated at 105 degrees so that all the live enzymes remain. Cook anything above 115 degrees and the enzymes die. The "cheese" is made out of nuts!
fastinggurl31 4 years ago
You're still using spices when you make Raw Pizza. That's why it still smells and tastes like pizza. It just doesn't have the same texture. I'm thinking I need to try this SOON!
LishaMarie2003 4 years ago
Mmmm looks nice! I think I might try it...
lol silly random question - is it OK to eat raw mushrooms? Day two went ok.. but I had pasta (200 cals worth):( not good.. but I will have none of that tomoro!!
LilyandLola1 4 years ago
Mushrooms ROCK!! I am making a raw steak this weekend out of portobello mushrooms. Mushrooms are raw and sooo good for you !
fastinggurl31 4 years ago
Wooo! We should start a mushroom fan club or something they are SO good! XD
ninjakitty16 4 years ago
Guuurl!? You're skin looks TaDahh, I can't put word on it, AMAZING! Must be the raw food diet...WoW.. super smooth and clean..I will really decide on trying raw food.. Thank you for posting this, good luck, well you don't need it, you rock anyway !
Hoarsethunder 4 years ago
Looks yummy!:]
RicePudden 4 years ago