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  • There is a stavkirke in Wisconsin USA, actually- it was built in Norway for the Columbian Exposition in Chicago and ended up near Blue Mounds [I live a few miles from it]- go to Wikipedia and search Little Norway Wisconsin.

  • HA I worked at that church! And I'm likely to work there again :)

    Also there's another Stavekirke in Poland.

  • @Nicko93 Yea i know, its Vang Stavkirke, used to be in Vang, Valdres in Norway, Friedrich Vilhelm lV of Prussia bought it from the Norwegian painter Johan Christian Dahl, which in turn had bought the church to save it from being destructed.

  • @Vikingskog Yeah I wasn't sure of the whole story. Thanks for reminding me, I'll be sure to put it to good use this summer ^^

  • This song is most likely of Scottish origin, not Norwegian.

  • @Peppepoppldoppl And why is that?

  • @Peppepoppldoppl Even though the Orkneys are part of Scotland, in the 13th century they were inhabited by mostly Norse/Celt hybrid peoples, in the same respect that the Faroese islands are Scandinavian but are essentially part of the northern Scottish island chain

  • @Peppepoppldoppl it has all the wrong sounds to be traditionally Scottish, plus the language is not old gaelige. The shetland isles were part of a wedding dowry to the Scots from Norway, so i say it crossed over to the Shetland isles around then..

  • @aatishoo No, because it is Latin. And Latin was and is still the language of the church. I said that the inhabitants of the Orkney and Shetland isles definitely do not have Norse ancestry. They may have done so hundreds of years ago, but that blood is already spent. What do you mean? Wrong sounds? What should it sound like to be "traditionally" Scottish? Bagpipes perhaps?

  • @aatishoo Norway is not the only Norse country.

  • This is probably how the Norse temples looked like, through-out Scandinavia, Iceland etc. They were burned down during the christianization, but this one and others survived. Some converted men also built churches in Norse style or renovated old temples I'm quite sure of. They were usually shunned upon by outlander christians, and new types of churches were built. The normal type of protestantic churches that is.

  • Norwegian builders and architects should keep building in the Ways of the Old in order to preserve the know how of the craft and ALL European Nations at that!!! ALL those structures have some thing organic about them.

  • Great Viking Power !

  • There's just one church like this one left in Sweden today.. the rest of them were burned down by the Christians.

  • @Jelubaful eeeh.. Churches burnt down by the Christians?

  • Yes, they didn't like the pagan looking architecture.

  • What a beautiful building, and beautiful music! The things at the tip of the roof look rather like the bow ornament of the viking ships.

  • I imagine myself sipping on some meade in a great, silent hall full of armored warriors, as the bards present this enchanting melody to us, entranced by their spell...

  • @alphatotheomega7 Yeah, it's catholic hymn to saint magnus in norwegian XD

  • @LumiKuuro It is sung in Latin not Norwegian though.

  • beautiful...

  • Esto es musica, aprendan wachiturris o como se llamen!!!!

  • looks like a buddhist temple

  • This style looks similar to old Russian churches. Wood and pointy roofs.

  • @VIdkun89 is this a joke or are you just being an idiot on purpose? "time for the Norse culture to lead the world", you say. What exactly do you mean? Take over the world? That we return to viking culture?

  • You Norwegians need to reanimate Harald Hardrade...Or Thorvin Raven Feeder, they were both librals... Libral about handing out deserved beatings to invaders on there land!!

  • @Kyzylturq Well, don't ever move to Norway, people in Scandinavia are tired of immigrants. 

  • I'm amused by all these anti church and anti Muslim pro pagan banter in the comments when this song is not in Norwegian but in Latin and has nothing to do with Norway other than being a catholic song written likely by a monk of Norwegian ancestry, though he could easily have been a scot. Not to mention the men of the Orkneys in the 13th century were 200 years removed from the last true vikings, who happened to be Christian as well. People on the Internet are so silly.

    Love to you level headed

  • Are Americans welcome in Norway?

  • @AjfromDamons No. Immigrants are annoying.

  • @leeho98 What if one has a Scandinavian background? I would consider going to Scandinavia a return to home... and I would very much wish to live in my homeland. I love the culture so much that I almost wish I was born in Jutland during the Viking Age.

  • @Vikingskog May you be protected by God, Odin and Thor and Freja. Ik hailsa allaim!(gothic). I greet all!

    Greetings from Sweden

  • @Vikingskog Norway is a country worth fighting for!! The 99th batallion was ready to help free Norway fron the Nazies durring WW2 and their spirit still lives in Minnesota. My question is: do the Immigrants want to become Norwegian or do they want to keep all their beliefs, traditions and expect Norwegians to accept their way of life?

  • long live Norway from USA :) Norway, Denmark, and Sweden are the land of my forfathers. and i'm proud to be able to say it. No matter what happens, i will support and stand behind Norway as if it were my own country and all of Scandinavia. Bless you all. :)

  • was the pagan churches burned down in the time of olaf tryggvason and olaf der heilige? does the people in the province dont blocked the soldiers of tryggvason and attack his capital city???

  • @bingzaniGercel The pagan temples was burned down in King Olav Tryggvasson and King Olav Haraldsson den Hellige's time yes.

    The king esembled his army and traveled around in Norway and forced-converted the people and burned the temples.

    When they tried to resist he battled them or fled if he was outnumbered.

    Sometimes the converts went back to paganism, then the king came again and punished them.

    His army was too big so the people couldnt resist.

  • @Vikingskog

    På Washington Island, Wisconsin USA er det en Stavkirke. Det er ganske deilig.

  • @Vikingskog Where can I find the story you are talking about? How was this king converted?

  • @Vikingskog it makes me sad when people are converted under pressure. Happens all the time in history but i just think diversity is more interesting.

    Makes me want to watch Valhalla Rising again......

  • @OneManMilitia69 Diversity..

    When cultures meet they either blend into one, weakening both cultures and watering it out, or the strongest one starts to influence the other, eventually the weakest one is pretty much gone.

    We see that today in several European countries with the segration of the islamic immigrants. They are the dominant ones, so their culture expands, ours weakens because nobody cares about it anymore except a few people like me. It kills diversity globally.

  • Are there latin words in this dialect like in the old briton ?

  • @bingzaniGercel I can't speak for Norway, but in sweden the temples were replaced with churches on the spot... taking over the 'holy' places so to speak. As a consequence, and quite amusingly, many churches dotted around the country carries the name of old pagan deities. Unfortunately for us, the early swedish stave churches soon got replaced with stone churches so we don't have any left. I'm happy some has survived in Norway to show how advanced and artful the pagan architecture was.

  • @bingzaniGercel in some way yes, but the folklore and folklore songs survived and old buildings like this one survived.

    and the building style continued, later in "dragestil"

    we have been very isolated, and people tend to focus too much on mythology and not culture folklore and music.

  • can you list some Norvegian folk music artists but not metal I want to learn real traditional artists...

  • @freddyXDyeah No thanks. The churchs are a small matter, sadly stone doesnt burn very well, so the idiots end up only burning the oldest wooden churchs, which is the only norse arcitecture we have.

    The people who burn these churchs are just cowards and ignorant fools. If they actually cared so much about religion and Norway, then they would be burning the mosques, because that is where the danger lies.

    Black metal artists are also cowards when it comes to this, never touches the subject.

  • Those anyone have any real viking/celtic songs that they can post online? Send me a link if you

  • hi i'm From orkney and would be grateFul For translation

  • Nobilis, humilis,

    Magne martyr stabilis,

    Habilis, utilis,

    comes venerabilis

    et tutor laudabilis,

    tuos subditos serva carnis

    fragilis mole positos.

  • for such a badass culture the vikings were destroyed ina crappy way. becuming christians

  • there used to be an awesome orkney/shetland song on youtube but i can't find it anymore. it was the hildina ballad sung by a chick with an awesome voice accompanied by a lyre, i think. even the picture was cool.. really bleak, but way cool. anyone know where to find it?

  • like Porfinnr, I would like to know the lyrics, if someone would be so kind as to post them. This is a very lovely piece.

  • Hørtes ikke veldig norrøn norsk ut etter mine ører.

  • @Nannestadboy Det er en kirkelig sang, så den er sunget på latin. Derfor høres den ikke norsk ut. Men den er den eldtse sangen som eksisterer som er laget av nordmenn.

  • @Vikingskog ...kristen?...ka gjer eg her?!

  • @Vikingskog  den er ikke laget av nordmen. den er laget av gregorianske monker i europa.

  • did norse pagan temples look like this church?

  • @GoingDownFaster Not exactly, but the decoration and building-style was probably somewhat the same. All pagan temples was burned down by the christians so we dont really know for sure.

  • @Vikingskog Lets be realistic. The vikings at the time didnt have so much resources and money as the catholic church so its likely it was not grand building. More likely similar to traditional viking structures of stone and wood. But then again the viking tradition was not to build great wonders, but to fight and go to war =)

  • @bluewing26 The special buildings were still quite impressive. And resources.. you know how many trees it took to make 1 viking dragonship? A small entire forest.

    And 5500 nails, and they were often decorated with impressive woodcarvings. The richest men even had a golden head in the front.

    Do not think them simple just because they had less money then the southerners who baked their ass in the sun all day.

    The vikings were also years ahead when it came to blacksmithing.

  • @Vikingskog all im saying is that it probably was no colloseums or pyramids... didnt mean to piss anyone off...

  • @Vikingskog Norwegians, please refrain from burning churches built before the 1500s. They are an important part of the worlds architectural heritage.

    Besides, there are plenty of modern, insignificant churches to pick from.

  • @GoingDownFaster I think they mainly celebrated and honored their gods outside, if weather allows. Maybe at winter just at the biggest hall of the village.

  • was one of those church's burned down?

  • so pure is the sounds and the pic, well to me this is how i feel, would be great to visit this fasinating land, is a long way from Aussie

  • @VikingsKog - Thanks for that information - Fascinating.

  • Pinched this from my friend who has a great interest in Medieval Music. Very unusual looking Chuch almost an Oriental influence there, partcularily Malaysian. Great Post.

  • The church is from year 1181, typical Norwegian norse style with woodcarving and treepiles on the roof etc.

    Such churchs only exist in Norway, and there is deffinately no oriental influence even tho it may look similar hehe.

  • @Vikingskog I guess the vikings travelled more than many others and learned a lot about building tecniques wherever they wandered and maybe this is a result of it..

  • @rockchick80s The vikings like the orientals was obsessed with dragons, and what you see on the top of the roof is many dragonheads pointing up.

  • it's an interesting twist on the monastic music most people are used to hearing--very cool! I wonder what instrument is being played?

  • :) I really like the church, because it looks like if it was from Halloween influence. tehe Norway beauty is so angelic. tehe Says hello from Puerto Rico. :)

  • oh oh oh the picture in the first .. wauw, what a house :D it looks like the one I imagned when I got the old nordse tales told :D

  • Its a church..

  • And it's an amazing church. If i decide to study abroad in norway next spring, i am deffinatly checking one of these out.

  • I know, it just very beautiful .. sry I said house..

    if helps, im from Jutland

  • Mmmm love it!!

  • im from norway just to know :D

  • Så egentlig jeg vet ikke om det er norsk, synes det for meg mer som latin.

  • Ja, den er på latin(nesten alle kristne sanger fra den tiden er det). Selvsagt er det ikke Norsk, de snakket gammel Norsk på den tiden, ikke 'Norsk'.

    Men den er Norsk i den forstand at den er laget av Nordmenn.

    Nobilis Humilis heter den på latin.

  • okay

  • Man, i've got to go to Norway sometime, i bet its AWESOME!!!!

  • It is my friend!

  • Hymn to Saint Magnus the Earl of Orkney. It's time we get at least Shetland and Orkney back. What say we go on a rampage.

  • Også godt kjent som "Nobilis Humilis".

    Smakfull versjon, men skulle mer enn gjerne hørt den med et par gyldene pikestemmer!

  • The Catholics used it as a political control device, but not the non-denominationals.

    you Don't know that the Slavs or Norse didn't use it for political reasons, we don't even hardly have anything left from the Pagan Slavs, as all was burned and forgotten when a Slavic king converted religions.

  • In Hel you wade through streams of venom and get bitten by snakes, and sleep on straw beds.

    Hell is a real place, it's not influenced by the climate of the region, I believe that Hell doesn't exist yet, that it will be formed after the Earth is destroyed, what people describe now is the holding cell where people are tormented by Demons in the center of the Earth, it's hot because of the molten core, in Hell the Demons will suffer and burn even more than the humans, because they are tougher.

  • If you could send me pictures of these "tormented" people in the molten core of the Earth, then I might actually take you seriously. Otherwise, it's just as true for me to tell you that there are teapots encircling our sun and sheep drinking Cola underwater because I was told so in a very non-surrealistic dream.

  • Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist, you can't see air can you? but it must exist or you wouldn't be breathing right now.

    Nothing is impossible, only improbable.

    People have seen visions of this place, they have journeyed in the spirit down into the Earth to that place, their spirit left their body and everyone thought they were dead, but their spirits returned and they lived to tell the story...

  • Can't see air now, can't we? Explain to me why the sky is blue during the day. We can see air by the photons it emits, but it is practically impossible if the density of it is too small or if we don't have a big amount of it. However, we can see it. And I wouldn't trust what the human brain experiences as it gives more "false" informations than "true" ones - if it sends true information at all.

  • I always thought it was because light reflects off of the moisture IN the air, but whatever I guess.

    I would, my experience has been that most of the information obtain by my brain is correct.

  • The reason why the sky has a blue colour is due to gas molecules (mainly oxygen and nitrogen) that get hit by sunlight, making them irradiate the blue light all around the atmosphere. It is the gases (air) that make the sky blue, not the moisture (moisture is practically just vaporised water, making it a gas as well). So there you have it. We can see air (gases).

    And the brain can misinterpret a lot of information. Like, is metal cold? It must be because it 'feels' cold when one touches it.

  • The Norse pagan religion of Asatru was based on the same system as the Christian one, they had two heaven like realms and one Hell, one Heaven for all who die in battle called "Valhalla", and one Heaven for all those who were good people on Earth called "nithavellir", and one place of eternal torture for all bad people called Hel, the Christan system gets its name for Hell from Asatru, in Hebrew the word is "Sheol". the Celts and Egyptians too had Heavens, one called "other-world".

  • The Åsatru Hel was a lot nicer then the Christian hell. In Hel you did not get punished or turtored for any "sins". And Hel was cold and covered in mist, while the christian hell is hot(which clearly proves that the idea of the christian Hell comes from warm countries in the middleeast area. As heat was not a problem for us in the west).

  • actually this is very inaccurate. The Bible says nothing about satan punishing people in hell, or about it being hot. and the hot tradition did not originate in the east, but rather in the west, in Italy. The modern idea of hell is traced to the Italian writer Dante's book Inferno. In the bible, hell (or Hades, since the NT was written in Greek, the word hell is never used in the original, but is a purely english adaptation) is actually a place prepared for the punisment of Satan.

  • Doesnt matter what the bible says specifically, this was the idea of hell in west europe at the time, long before Dantes inferno.

    People say the bible says this and that, and also many proclaim that you cant kill a person and still be christian. Well, say that too the million warriors who killed for christianity and in gods name. Its not what a specific book says that is the main thing, the main thing is how it affects peoples minds and how they read the book. From history we see the true face.

  • I see you are one of those american christian lemmings, so i will not waste time on you.

    Thankfully we have very few of you in Scandinavia. Christianity thrives in america because of ur bad education system, very big diffrences in income and education from person to person, aswell as you dont have any culture, and nothing worth calling a identity anymore.

    I guess most of you need a invisible friend to hold hands with, because of everything else you lack. Christianity killed cultures,may it rot.

  • Exactly. Christianity proclaims to be a religion of peace and compassion whilst some of its believers have killed, are killing and will kill any culture that they do not respect. It is a cuckoo's offspring, sucking up every last bit of strength and free will from people who, in the first place, had their own culture, but which was killed and buried during the last two thousand years. But that bird's gonna fly out of its borrowed nest someday, and when it does, I hope someone will shoot it.

  • Hail Asatru!

    Hail, Odin!

  • It isn't called Hel, but Helheim. Hel is the goddess of Death, not a location in Norse mythology. "Valhalla" is as you say the "Hall of the Fallen". However, Niðavellir isn't a realm of the dead. It is something completely different. It is the realm of the dwarves. People, whether good or bad, went to Helheim if they didn't die in a glorious battle or died from diseases or old age. It is not based on the same interpretion of the afterlife as Christianity at all, as you state.

  • Really? every book and place I've seen the name it always has said "Hel", do you have sources for this that I can look into?

    Again, every book and place I've seen this word it has had two meanings, one as the realm of dwarves, and two as the house of the dead in Niflheim where good people go, I could very well be wrong though, could you give me sources so I double check this new information?, thanks :)

  • I suppose there are many names for Helheim, and Hel is perhaps among them. I see they use it on the English page on Wikipedia, but to distinct the realm from the goddess herself, adding the "-heim" would be more correct if you ask me. On both the Swedish and the Norwegian (Nynorsk) page on Wikipedia, the realm is refered to as "Helheim".

    I've never heard "Niðavellir" being the realm of the good dead in Niflheim. Even Baldr, indisputably the most good of the Æsir, went to Helheim.

  • That makes sense.

    Niðavellir is simply a dwelling within Niflheim on the outskirts of Hel, I suppose we will both have to do some more research...

  • If you look under "Etymology" on the English page of "Hel" on Wikipedia, it is even said: "The use of Hel in Norse words and phrases... (indicates) that the word Hel referred to a common place of the dead and, unlike English hell, did not imply any sense of damnation or punishment." Whether it is reliable or not, that is the interpretion of the Norse afterlife I've always had, even in classes about the Norse mythology at school.

  • Well yes of course, but if the dead are separated according to their deeds and the good go to Niðavellir and all the rest including all the sick go to Hel then you would see that it's not that different from the Christian view, in Hel everything miserable and people who do things considered unmoral by Norse standards are punished, Niðavellir is a grand castle of luxury where good people live, eat and are served by Dwarves.

  • It is called Helheim, but in Norway we say that "he went to Hel" You do not have to say Helheim. We all know that Hel lives in Helheim, so if you go to Hel you end up in Helheim;-) Helheim means Hel`s home.

  • thank you for having a viking site for the quarter Norwegian in me. I use to count in Norwegian as a child. very beautiful song. I am so proud to be norwegian. The other english scotch-irsih and Swede can laugh at my norse blood.

  • damn rights

  • this church looks like chinese temples.

  • There were no churches in Norway in the viking age,the arrival of the christianity was the end of the viking age.

    Just another great culture buried by the christianity insanity.

    The artwork on the churches are from the viking culture,big difference.

    U cant evolve a culture further when the basic elements people relied and belived on suddenly become banned and looked at a lover degree of living compared to a new powertool of an religion.

    It just stops there and the old ways change and die.

  • wrong, there are several churchs in Norway that are from the viking age. The viking age lasted from year 800 to 1066. Christianity came first with Håkon den Gode, then Olav Tryggvasson and then christianized by Olav Haraldsson from 1015-1028. Church started getting raised in 1015, and the oldest stavechurch we have in Norway(in sogn) is from 1050. We used to have many more from that time but they were rebuilt and changed. Which you would know if you have read the sagas :).

  • though, i agree that christianity, just like islam, is a bad religion. the people who belive in these religions are nothing but slaves to their god, blind and ignorant. also guilty of the biggest man slaughters and most wars in human history.

  • I have not read the sagas but ive listen to a few historical professors lecture about the viking age.

    And how do we know the sagas wasnt investigated by christians after traces of the truth about christianity brutality.

    Everywere else in the world u find traces after old pagan temples just beeing converted into christian churchs,like buildings with a cross on the top with a ring around it,this is not a christian symbol but an old pagan one..

    The oldest churchs could just be converted ones..

  • vi har jo ruiner og funn etter slike kirker overalt,

    sier seg selv at når Norge ble kristnet i 1015 så fantes det også kirker i 1015. Kirker er og var det mest nødvendige for kirstendommen.

    Og noen få av kirkene fra vikingtiden står fortsatt i dag. Resten ble revet eller ombygd, nesten alle kirker ble ombygd rundt år 1700 med unntak av stavkirkene.

    Og mange kirker står der tidligere Hov(dvs. templer) står før. Navn som 'Torshov', 'Hovkirke' osv vitner tydelig om det.

  • I mange tilfeller så har de til og med brukt samme treematerialer som hovet var bygd av, og da brukte det til å bygge opp kirken etter hovet var ødelagt.

    Et tilfelle vi har på vestlandet så er det til og med en plank hvor det er en runeinskripsjon hvor det står at "dette hus er tilegnet de høye æser", de brukte den planken når de bygde opp kirken over hovet.

    Men om det var noe politisk i det eller om det bare var for å være økonomisk vet vi ikke, antagelig litt av begge deler.

  • Det virker å være en ganske klar symbolikk.. uten å si så mye mer om det, hva heter denne kirken på vestlandet? vil gjerne se inskripsjonen :)

  • Den er fra Gamle Gjevedal Kirke, den ble vist revet på 1800tallet.

    Runene var fra 700tallet, og lyder slik:

    "hedensk helligdom"

    og så:

    "En til Æsene viet helligdom er denne bygning".

    Et avtrykk av inskripsjonen finnes i Nasjonalmuseets Biblioteket i København(danskene stjelte med seg mye slikt av historisk verdie i unionstiden, fra både oss og Island).

  • Well as it was explained to me. The Stav Churches are very close to what the old heathen temples may have been like, but people would have sat in a semi-circle and you would have 3 statues: Freyr-Odin-Thor like at Uppsala where the Christian altars are now. And there was probably a stone slab or something where the góði (priest) spilled blood on from sacrificed animals in front of that.

  • They dont know exactly how Hov's(norse temples) looked like, they only know the form of them and the base size, not how tall they were.

    From archeology findings they vary a bit, some smaller then others.

    Some Hov's were assigned to several gods, while some others were just for one.

    We still have several places in Norway called "Freyshov" "Torshov" etc. which clearly means there was a hov for that god there. They have one or several wooden statues, the offering was put infront of it usually.

  • Well that's all true. There was a youtube video up, but I can no longer find it. This guy went up into an "attic" in the roof of this one Stav church and he showed actual wooden carvings of the gods in the wooden posts holding up the roof.

  • Not of the gods, for the gods. :)

    I know of that runeinscription, its in a church in west Norway. The wood used in the church(which the runes are carved on) was from a Hov.

    In several cases they used the same wood for Hov's as they did for the churchs which replaced them(probably because it saved them time).

  • That makes sense.

  • The youtube video was titled, "Hegge Stav Church." That's the one with the wooden posts that have carvings of the gods inside the roof, but it says that the video was removed.

  • so one man that believes in god or another deity whom's worshippers have commited crimes of war or other crimes of so called religious convictions, are guilty? Then let it be known that all of mankind is guilty, as we all follow previously like convictions. For instance, all americans are guilty because their predecessors killed and starved native americans, or went to wars over political gains. The list goes on and on. Convictions dont make you guilty. Acts make you guilty.

  • you mistunderstood me, the religions are guilty. Christianity and islam has made nothing but war aslong as it has existed.

    Now days there isnt much left of christianity in europe, and good is that.

    But the people who follow these religions follows something that is guilty of some of the biggest manslaughters in history.

    Regard less of if they support the previouse actions or not, they follow the religion that exist only because it killed its way up.

  • Not to mention that both religions destroyed thousands of traditions and several cultures, its only 150years ago a women in my family was going to get burned as a witch(but was saved).

    Christianity and islam are far outdated religions, and unable to adapt because of the bible and the quoran. its not a free religion, if one doesnt follow all the rules ur pretty much going to hell like the rest of us.

  • Religions like these is nothing but a plague, all religions that have only one,allmighy god, and a "holy text" are very dangerous because it manipulates the mind so easily, especially the uneducated. And the leaders of these religions holds the key to heaven, which is what fuels fanatics so easily and which is what have caused many of the wars we have seen.

    Doesnt matter what "modern-christians" or "modern muslims" say today, their religion is red full of blood which will not wash off.

  • the problem is it was not the religion that caused the people to kill it was their misinterpretation. they thought that God wanted us to "convert" people by any meens when really God wanted us to mearly tell people about him and from there let him take over. i am a Christian by the way. A religion does not cause acts a person does.

  • christians are blood made "saints" and theres nothing else to it and thier all decieved into thinking their religion is their own when truly it is simply a stolen mish mash of ideas from previous cultures and if you dont believe me than start actually reading history books

  • First of all i'm a history buff so i do read history books. I do however think you should read the Bible and see that Christianity is not a mish mash of all other religions. As well we are not blood made "saints" as you put it. As well you might want to look a little closer at the crusades it was not only "christians" who were in it a lot of people went just to get money who were not "christians".

  • well actually ive read the bible several times seeing as i was raised christian, if your a history buff than you would know that christianitys spread only happened through the slaughtering of people who wouldnt join. I never mentioned the crusades thats a whole different story. Christmas is pagan as is easterhalloweenthanksgiving and every other holiday in the spirit of "christ" and it just so happens that theres another religion from persia that came before christianity that is exactly the same

  • Love lies at the foundation of Christianity. If you see people who call themselves Christians committing crimes than they aren't what they say they are. Do you know the expression: 'a wolf in a sheep's skin'? You can't blame the religion itself for what people make out of it. I admit, what christianity looks today is its very opposite. But its principles are good. Love your neighbour like yourself, love even your enemy! What do you think of it?

  • Look at history, what the power of christianity in men has done, aswell as islam.

    What the book says or how you read it is pointless, its the effect it has on the human mind and their deeds through history that shows how much its worth.

    Enough millions of people have died,being tortured, cutted down limb from limb, blinded, burned alive, robbed in christianity and islams name that no more proof is necessary.

    The principles do not work, and they are unecessary.

  • Nyyydelig hymne...♥ vidunderlig atmosfære over,

    tross det religiøse aspektet..

    Del veldig gjerne mer av dette med oss..! ♥

  • Nobilus Humilis from the magnus hymn manuscript, one of the oldest preserved nordic songs (even though it's a christian song), and a beautiful rendition! I was actually just searching yesterday for an authentic sounding version, amazingly you put this up the next day! I'm glad somebody is keeping this alive.

  • @RideTehWalri Do you know the lyrics

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