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  • You talk really wierd,, like you are forced too :/

  • at 13:27 instead of mangling and lacerating i heared"if u cant defiet ur target with manling and masturbating"

  • lol hahaha u totally owned that mage)

  • Oxiii eu sou lvl 16 e eu vou começar a estudar daqui a 3 dias to muito puto e e uma merda estudar

  • DONKEY KONG SOUND!!!! <3

  • should*

    

  • at least that mage can't play at all he shoulöd use freeze much more often haha

  • When he said you must have glyph of mangle bc you use it ALOT I quit watching.... You only use it for the buff or if you can't get behind your target! Shred does way more DPE and hits WAY harder!! What a noob!

  • This was basically everything I knew from experience, but good video. Depending on the enemies in a 1v2 ill stay in cat form due to high haste/mastery and agility. In the case that i'm an opener.. pounce/mangle/bleeds and switch target stack him the same, switch back other guy rinse repeat and sometimes i maim then dash to a healing location to pop back into kitty form and repeat my rotation. :) feral charge is important as well as dash and heals (dash, hot, jump cliff, feral charge)

  • your dmg is low?

  • @TheDsRaiden This is kinda old now, if you watch his hp he only has about 108k, a geared feral druid now has about 140k :)

  • wow, thanks, awesome guide. going to follow up on the series, just dinged my first druid.

  • Donkey KONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!

  • how come u dont use fandrals flamescythe, its good for feral and gives u FIRE CAT!

  • How come u don't use ravage, i know u said that its not worth it but i see u a lot of times behind them in stealth, isnt it a good opener? just wondering.

  • @peaughfan101 in pvp pounce is much better - it adds bleeding, stuns, and therefore no chance to miss or avoid a single mangle which is important for hitting 5-combo-point Rip at 3rd sec.

  • we need a new top comment

  • @NewTopGamer yes it is 5 months old

  • @chachalover13 who cares

  • @NewTopGamer an OCD person like meh

  • pretty good guide man! Checkout my feral pvp video's! :D I don't use the bear talents due to i don't find i use bear form enough to have an extra 20% reduction try using them in somthing else!

  • what macros do you use?

  • lol...but just so you know...taunt is somethime used to get a player into combat... rare situation...it can happen...

  • lawl @ taunting in pvp

  • New one!!!

  • ..Holy shit.. ..My mind went back to 1995!! ..DONKEY KONG!! Its been so long I forgot the whole game! :D

  • this is better game than runescape

  • this guide is nearly all wrong, even for the patch you are talking about, mangle spec is always bad, back in that patch glyph of roots was a must, you're at 1300 mmr, i suggest you learn your class actually then talk...

  • Check my chanel for 2k rating feral action

  • OMG we need a new top comment it is 3 months old...........

  • @wyattqt stop hating hengest would own you. Hengest keep making pvp videos and guides! I love to watch them!

  • To everybody saying he's wrong n' shit.. One should be allowed to state one's opinions.. Because you see, opinions are like assholes, almost everyone has them!

  • Were you drugged down before this video? Because you're scary calm..

  • great guide! thanks! =)

  • @wyattqt. Super troll mad bro? Lmao write a book complaining about HIS play style and his opinions on the class. Get a life you sad little troll XD

  • PART 5

    13:29 "dont try to fight two melee in cat" yes, you should. just instant cyclone one and blow up the other. feral damage is retarded good you should be able to if you dont suck.

  • @wyattqt Well your obviously the most no life bored person in all the world ... you waste your type typing all this shit you wrote....

  • @garfield1268 i was bored, and i dont want people to listen to this guy, i want people to actually learn how to feral correctly.

  • @wyattqt Well ok.

  • @wyattqt part 5 agreed. You are wrong about a lot of things but Hengest is no where near the best Feral and uses Bear form far too much.

  • @FlashyBastard23 i wasnt wrong about anything.

  • @wyattqt Part 1 was espicially incorrect. It kind of indicated that you are an FotM re-roller, in which case no one should take any advice from you.

  • PART 4

    11:43 "by the time uve been able to get out a 5 point rip youre probably half dead" YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET RIP OFF IN A FUCKIN POUNCE XD god damn l2p.

    12:14 "mangle and shred are supposed to build combo points for bleeds" NO! what about maim?! Ferocious bite? fuck you never maim so w/e. bad

    12:29 "you dont wanna be wasting time to get behind your opponent. WHY? ITS SO EASY TO AND YOU DO SO MUCH MORE DAMAGE. you say "just hit him with a mangle its not that big of a diff. YES! IT IS!

  • @wyattqt part 4. yup, shred is the way to go.

  • Part 3

    9:24. CLICK MOAR NUB

    10:07 HAHA YOU CLICKED MOAR NUB!

    no time stamp on this- but you never ever ever maim.

    10:45. YOU CLICKED EVEN MOAR NUB!

    10:48. MOAR CLICKING WTF

    10:53 WTF STOP CLICKING ITS ANNOYING

    11:05 you start rambling about mange being better than shred. omg dude..... just shut the fuck up and stop making guides.

    11:38. you say savage roar is rarely used. NO! fuck. why dont u theorycraft. maybe not for you cuz u dont spec fury swipes. but have u ever even compared the damage?!

  • @wyattqt Savage Roar is exclusive to PvE for it's damage purposes. Using SR when you are being kited by a caster is a good idea, though. 

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  • PART 2

    5:40 you said haste, crit, and agility or your primary stats?! HAHAHAHAHAHA SO BAD agility, mastery, hit cap. thats it. baddie.

    6:47 you said "healing well is what seperateds a skilled feral and a beginner feral." do you actually consider yourself a skilled feral?!

    7:28 "suddenly mastery and crit are the most important stats? consistency plox. and no, just mastery, not crit.

    7:53 "Haste is very strong for feral dps" no...... its not.

    8:30 "put your bleeds up and go defensive" LOL no.

  • @wyattqt reply to part 2

    I agree with everything except two things. 1: A lot of people are not getting passed 4.5% hit because Ferals get refunded energy for misses, dodges, and parries. I do get hit cap, but having 4.5% hit will make you not miss any pounces, ravages, rips, or FBs. 2: A huge part of beating other melee classes is bleed kiting. We are the hard counter to all other melee classes and that's how we beat them.

  • things wrong with this guide.- Fury Swipes>Thick Hide since you use unheeded warning

    yes you glyph mangle cuz glyph of shred is retarded- but you said mangle is the move you use the most by far. LOL shred does the most damage especially with bleeds.

    You dont glyph pounce as a major glyph for the extra 3 yard range-just l2p. thats retarded.

    Thrash is win. you use it single target in bear, also when aoe'ing the flag in rbg's.

    Stamp roar does NOT have limited uses. use it to get out of snares

  • @wyattqt reply to part 1,

    - It's not common that you get very many white hits because Ferals are pretty much throwing out an instant nature every time we Rip. I do agree that Fury Swipes > Thick Hide but Master Shapeshifter> both of those talents.

    - I agree, Ferals should Shred if possible, but don't hesitate to Mangle.

    - This is dated December 29th. Before 4.1 so Glyph of Pounce didn't even exist yet.

    - Swipe exceeds the amount of damage dealt by Thrash by huge margin. Not viable form of dmg.

  • hengest is so fucking bad holy shit he needs to stop making guides.... maybe he should quit playing.

  • Thats not uptodate. No crit!!! Haste or Mastery!!! in pvp mastery only!

  • "A good feral PvPer should almost never have to use bear form" - Linqz

  • Thick hide for pve tanks, who tanking 2 melee at 3x3 arena(no way).

  • Thrash for RBGs= wins

    

  • thanks heaps dude ive been missing out on my druid till now thanks heaps!

  • Rofl, u are cliker <3

  • @RealOne94s Hes actually not he clicks things that are on his top action bar so do i thats the best way to go, in my opinion

  • Should I be using shred more instead of mangle?

  • at 11:40 u should use savage roar immediately after u kill an enemy coz cp dont dissapear from corpses and you dont lose dps bcuz ur target is dead:P

  • @Neandrathal 7:12 i know that im a nerd but i think that they can be dispelled if ure a dwarf or if u have low lvl green trinket :D

  • I know you don't do that many videos any more, but what about an update for 4.2? I'm sure a lot of people would appreciate it - but I just like your videos and voice :P

  • Just to make sure you guys realize, this is old. We are in 4.2 now and ferals do unbelievable damage with abiltites like ferocious bite, this guide is not very viable now

  • have you ever been told your voice is so soothing

  • I liked your video.  Very helpful to me.

  • So manny flaws in this "Guide"..

  • This is a pretty AWEFUL guide to Feral PvP. 1st. Shread > Mangle allways, it does much more dmg. Agility > Mastery > Crit > Haste, Feral druids are all about your bleeds = 3,1% more bleed dmg from each 1% of Mastery, over 1% crit. And why in the world, would you want more armor in bear, over 4% crit in cat. Dont try to "tank" people in bear, whenever you get Preadetor Swiftness proc, use in on Entagling Roots, or Cyclone, and run away from them, in cat - hence the 45% increased speed in cat. etc

  • @bevervot 7:33, bro.

  • I also noticed you cast cat form manually, twice to get out of snares

    This is a helpful macro you will need -.-

    /cast Cat Form

    /cast Cat Form

  • ABSOLUTELY AWEFUL FERAL DRUID, WORST I'VE EVER SEEN!

    Missing so many important PvP Talents. Master Shapeshifter, wtf not!?!?!

    Thick hide, thats abit iffy, as a feral druid, you should be doing alot of running, thats pretty much for tanking out people. If you use bear mostly, your an idiot for not taking Pulverize. Btw, Feral Swiftness stacks with all speedbuffs,

    All I can say is, L2p feral druid before making a video.

  • You remind me of that Ross guy who is on PBS who paints

  • love your video , and i found it to be one of the best or the best video about feral pvp druid. Thanks for your work it has helped us a lot

  • I'm curious.. You mentioned applying bleeds then going on the defensive, but it seemed like you were getting alot of 15k+ crits.. Were those bleeds? Not sure how hard feral bleeds crit for. Also, after applying bleeds (especially in bg's) is it completely necessary to go on the defensive? I don't see many ferals perform to your standard, but they do alright and appear to be in cat form most if not all of the match.

  • so u dont stack attack power?

  • Hey guys i'm having a problem playing wow i have a video about it on my channel if you could leave a comment or send me a message that would be very helpful thank you

  • @MrEmmo95 Thats the default blizzard ui...

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  • dude glyph of maul helps in arena? getting opponents out of fear/hibernate/polymorph helps?

  • You need to drink some coffee!Wake up!

  • Well i don't really like this vid....really ? The only reason you would go bear form is to output a stun or a charge on the target and get a decent window to heal or get a better cat start..i see no point in using bear in pvp...anyway it's your choice and also a littel tip for everybody.....never manualy click your trinkets...better use a macro like

    /cast 13

    /cast 14

    13 & 14 are representing the slots 13 and 14 wich is your trinket slots

  • Well i don't really like this vid....really ? The only reason you would go bear form is to output a stun or a charge on the target and get a decent window to heal or get a better cat start..i see no point in using bear in pvp...anyway it's your choice

  • Nice vid i personally like the stragedy. Too all those feral druids out there, a nice little tip. You can still use-up combo points on a target that is dead. Once they die you can savage roar, instead of letting them go to waste. It can be great way to get extra damage for almost nothing. I think it helps alot in pvp and pve. Even if you only have 1 combo point on the target.. it still lasts 22 second.

  • you are realy calm

  • @Daffelatte He actually sounds stoned. :P

  • i know this is a a few patches ago...but shred hasn't been affected by savage roar since end of wrath...otherwise good vid

  • i know this is a a few patches ago...but shred hasn't been affected by savage roar since end of wrath...otherwise good vid

  • fail...

  • @zzd00medzz Well if reading comments makes you go hard fan boy, id suggest zooming the screen in to avoid reading comments.

  • omg is that donkey kong music? *estolgia overload

  • Agreed to @drayden95

    But just a tip in general; Bind your key to either your mouse or keyboard instead of clicking on them. You'll notice a difference, anyways i think this guide will be helpful to ALOTS of druid. Thanks for your vid!

  • the shred mangle thing is not true anymore.... mangle and shred are based on weapon damage so savage roar doesnt help shred dmg or mangle dmg

  • But Hengest!!!! What about haste?

  • Get keybindings then its gonna help you alot man...

  • Hello Hengest tbh great job but still is it that hard to l2p? I mean for pvers lol my tip is just get to know ur class and u shud know tjis already .

  • WIN!

  • whats the name of the funny song at the begining??

  • @NyoCname its a song off of the original donkey kong country for super nintendo

  • @gmgolden100, WTF are you saying resto is still great for pvp it just takes skill now, I still use it and do great, you say it sucks you you can't play it so gtfo or l2p

  • Why are people lessening to this guy?! If you armory him his highest rating is 1500 in 3s and in the video hes playing at 1300 mmr. thats the last guy you want to be taking advice from.

  • @datucan He doesn't do arena competitively (which he has stated several times). However, if you encounter this guy in a 1v1 situation, you will go down so hard that you'll either reroll a feral druid yourself or you will quit the game entirely.

  • your voice makes this video!

  • im looking for the gcd and atk speed tracker can you link me the name of that addon please thanks

  • You open opening Bear Defance skils with pvp . and no opening Master Shapeshfter talent ?!?!?

  • so wats ur rotaiton after prowl and pounce?

  • Spec is horrible.

    And you dont shred. Feral is all about shredding, and is not effected by savage roar.

    And back in 4.0.3 there was instant roots glyph. You have glyph of maul in its place =/

  • noob

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  • Man, You're frggin awsum keep it up. You helped me being a better feral druid <3 thanks

  • Are u reading this off a script?

  • Hey, what is your standard stealth opener?

    I noticed in some vids you sometimes get a rip off really fast somehow but now sure how, I usually go stealth feral->maim stun->shred for the stun and damage opener, then depending on distance either rake/faerie fire, mangle etc. and using Rip whenever at 5 points, I'm sure I'm doing some less efficient

    Thanks

  • @Jordo54321 If you use feral charge, while having talent points in Stampede, you can use pounce and immediately use ravage (which will cost no energy and will almost always crit), giving you three points right off the bat. Getting another crit with mangle, shred or rake would bring you up to five combo points, and the opponent is just (if even) out of the pounce stun. Just one tactic, not sure if that's what he was doing.

  • @Jordo54321 Not sure whether this is helpfull to you now at all, neither am i sure that it is the perfect way to open but i find it to be quite nice to do this:

    Open with stealth --> Pounce --> Mangle --> Rake --> Tigers Fury --> Rip (if not on 5 Combo points cuz nothing critted do a Shred) --> then do one more Shred --> Savage Roar

    It works pretty nice and i think Savage Roar is fairly underestimated atm, it really helps when setting up burst

  • @ncux0nama Where have you been? Armor pen hasn't been in the game since wrath...

  • Oh and FYI mangle increases shred damage... Use it to buff bleeds not as dps

  • Dude WTF are you saying? I crit around 15k with shred and 8-9k with mangle and about mastery, I got 78% more bleed damage from stacking it... I COMPLETELY disagree with you

  • This guy is the swifty of druids :)

  • In patch 4.1 - Feral Swiftness now also causes Dash and Stampeding Roar to have a 50/100% chance to instantly remove all movement impairing effects from the affected targets when used.

    Stampeding Roar is now FUCKING great!

  • Is it updated to 4.0.6?

  • how do u hit 17k when its not ravage

  • subbed :) i just got into feral pvp on my druid, and i LOVE it. i've got the hang of bleeding/defending, with a little more gear and experience i'll be unstoppable...and with some of your guides, of course :)

  • Is your voice naturally this monotone? :3

  • Hey Neandrathal how do you get out of mage's frost nova so quick?

  • all of your vids are very entertaining and helpful, even though your keyboard is super loud. anyways, keep it up man!

  • Awesome video mate! Really helpful and made me roll feral druid! Keep it up!

  • Its good to finally see someone else that know there class well nice video bro...

  • is it worth packing resil for arena? as a kitty

  • Your a very deep person hengest. Ur a messiah of wow. You should duel some1 Pokemon style. Ur Druid, frost mage and hunter vs some1 else who has 3level 85 characters.

  • Now that Ferals 'been nerfed (and i am talking about shapeswift nerf) the class doesnt even worth it....

  • Love the begginning music! DK country 

  • wats a good ally druid race worgen or night elf

  • Why you're not using Savage Roar atleast at 1 combo point on arenas? o.O

  • Feral PVP Video on my channel

  • Rofl! Dude you are soooooooo clearly misinformed. I love seeing these new Fotm ferals that think mangle is the IT button. Yes our bleeds hurt No it wont win you arena matches against skilled GEARED players. Sure running around bleeding everyone may work in your 1500 bracket but otherwise your entire view of "How to play Feral Druid" is flawed. Lol mangle spam bleed lawl.

  • I would just like to say one thing. Most classes with taunts dont have meny long range attacks. Druids are a stealth class. It's simply to keep you in combat.

  • Nice vid

  • got to say YOU and THE FAT COW are some great druids 

  • why dont you live stream like in JUSTIN.TV ????

  • I didnt even see Feral Charge on your action bars...where is that at?

  • you would be a perfect nelf voice/stoner voice :P nice vid ty helped a lot

  • Great job guys keep on!!!

  • made me laugh sooo fucking hard when u said " warrios trying to taunt me in bgs!!!"!!!!!

  • yoooo i love u im just starting as feral and id love to talk to u one on one and just get some tips =D soo yeee just replyyy plz

  • Awesome video, gave me a ton of help

  • Great video with lots of fantastic information, but you have to take it with a grain of salt because a lot of points that he gave were directly AGAINST what competitive arena Feral Druids say, such as Glyph of Entangling Roots, no Master Shapeshifter, no Fury Swipes, and saying Savage Roar is not as useful.

    All in all you seem like a very skilled Feral Druid, but those who watch must not take everything he said at face value.

  • Hey .. Wondered if its possible to use this spec as Feral "Tank" spec as well?

  • Nice vid

  • Good vid, beginning to like your work. So in your opinion feral is more of a "tanking" pvp class, eating damage. Offensive play is okay too in my opinion, keeps the opponents defensive in a way that you are controlling what they do.

    Thx for the vid

    Greetz

  • bg vid comming soon check me out on armory good spec phurionz

  • fail druid check me out in armory phurionz bg vds comming soon uploading one now to lazy to edit so yea

  • Great Vid it really helps but i have a question...

    Somewhere in the vid i think you fought a frost mage in BfG.

    you were stealth and then used Feral Charge to start on him... well now feral charge procs a Ravage out of stealth. is it efficent to use charge in stealth? wouldnt that be wasting a 30 sec or so proc?

  • God wow looks so stupid now.

  • Do you just spam mangle and don't care about shred?

  • @MrDaJaydude its not worth spamming mangle, when a traditional druid would put up mangle 30% dmg buff aswell as rake another % buff onto shred, in my opinion, its worth using shred, i see higher numbers, and if its AVAILABLE im always for shred over mangle

  • what is the addon the shows the smaller map?

  • Thrash - great for flag defending. Especially for some one who "always uses bear form" The spec not a fan of. especially with only 3 into the healing tree. Healing is stil great for arena's on a double dps team such as mage/feral etc. And the click is such a turn off. Not to impressed. Thanks for posting though.

  • @Ghostwyren Thrash costs 25 Rage. Swipe costs 15. What are you talking about "healing tree?" You think Healing Touches for 14k are going to save your arena partners? You could deal twice that amount of damage in the time it takes to cast one. I'm assuming you're talking about taking Naturalist which would be the only practical use for your claim. Otherwise you're only concerned about instant casts.

  • @Neandrathal thank you for the lovely specc i own 5times more then before :)

  • @Neandrathal Thrash is actually a lot better than Swipe for flag defending, because of the DoT apply. They can't even try to cap flag for 6 seconds. It's arguably how much of a difference it really makes, but I find that it's more useful. That's pretty much it though.

  • @Ghostwyren yeah i also agree. your an idiot. plus when it comes to these videos. for one you have no right to criticize since its HIS POINT OF VIEW IN STRATEGY. you may comment/as questions on certain stances he may make. but seriously what gives you the right. people like you used to say restokin sucks ass. ya it does NOW. but in original and bc as well as some of wrath, people who knew druid well enough were extremely op with restokin and possibly reason for some nerfs. so stfu

  • @gmgolden100 weird no one said anything about being an idiot, seeing as he was commenting on how something would work. plus your about 3 months behind the conversation and wow is pretty dull now. i dont play the game anymore or give a s*** about your opinion. Much love d bag and have a good night :D

  • Thanks for the guide, i've been strugling with Feral for a while. but now that Cataclysm has hit i'm gonna make my druid feral pvp. Once again, Thanks alot!!

  • So it rake not good at all? the glyph seems good and it would be good with mangle

  • id like u as my private trainer in druids, i just leveld a druid up to 85, and i really suck at pvp, i dont know what rotations you should do, when to change to bearform etc.

  • @blade422 True but ill still watch this channel lol, neandrathan makes entertaining videos.

  • @blade422 Lol I like boomkins better but Feral is OP atm, check the arena ratings like 5 in top ten are feral droods.

  • @blade422 Balance druids lose 1v1 against feral.