Learning from StackOverflow.com

[loveshbond]

awesome

[FlatEarthHypothesis]

Why in the heck does the video keep cutting to the break room, then to somebody's webcam at their desk, etc?

[sakathecheetah]

I laughed so hard when he brought up Windows Live search in the questions. Great reaction and sense of humor.

[Synergy9k]

I love Stack Overflow.

[marigloda]

@alihammadshah I figure that out after a while, but it's changed now... There are no anwers at the bottom...

ExpertSexChange

[alihammadshah]

The secret of expert exchange is that "The answers are down at the bottom of the page you have to scroll down".

[jgoemat]

@alihammadshah I thought you had to set googlebot as your user agent.

[AnimationShorts1]

sn50.com all the way!

[egoine]

sad how he promised there would never be interstitial ads on stackoverflow and now there is...

[caesymax]

This guy built a great website. I would have given him 100 points if he didn't use Microsoft software for backend. The most annoying thing is that he is using INTERNET EXPLORER! Why would a guy with a great web application supports the explorer that breaks web delopvers' code by not following standards? I am now thinking that he probably has other great co-founders or partners or else this microsoft/IE guy would never have such achievement.

[supaflyjohnson]

"how is babby formed?"

Hilarious.

[matthewdoucette]

i love how joel spolsky understands human interactions on computers... UI.

[utuber2]

Every time I ask a question, it gets deleted for not being programming related. If I'd found the answer on Google, I wouldn't be asking, numbnuts! :-)

[Kn0wnIssues]

It's funny that the speaker claims that technologies like Yahoo Answers is failing. There's been countless times I've done a search on Google of a question nature and gotten a Yahoo Answer as a result.

[ehsanul]

That's true once in a while, but to a large extent, I'd agree with him. Yahoo answers isn't all that great.

[GrantNeufeld]

I really like the point of recognizing that the Google search pages are really the front page for the site, and how they optimize for that (proper meta tags, meaningful permalinks, etc.).

[bryantfilms]

kudos to googletechtalks for their great series, and Joel, who really fills this entire talk to the brim with concentrated details about the anthropology and design of a question and answer site. No time is wasted. I have been amazed by the immediate success of stackoverflow -- after following the pre-launch blog I stopped watching it but then rediscovered it in google search results shortly after it launched.

[creamboat]

His claims that the Microsoft stack is somehow more efficient and cost friendly is never supported with actual data. It just reads as a blatant advertisement for a company he used to work for.

[jfontecha]

yeah? and? so? you see anybody else building somethiing like stackoverflow and being successful at it?

[fl1ckmasterflex]

Its just his opinion. Do you publish a paper with citations every time you recommend restaurants that you think serve the best food?

[camircea]

@creamboat The Microsoft stack being more efficient is not a myth, it's a well-known fact. SQL Server will handle practically anything you throw at it; with proper configuration a server can easily tens of thousands of concurrent connections. .NET languages, being compiled, are times faster than PHP, not to mention that the CLR is extremely capable at outperforming anything: gooDOTgl/V2Zh gooDOTgl/qiWA

[luger111]

Joel is the best!!

We all have what to learn from this guy

[t3mp0ster]

Why Joel do the talk and not Jeff?

it supposed Jeff knows more than anyonelse about SO.

Also, You can see Experts-Exchange's answer at the bottom of each question, no need to pay or register.

[markyrandall]

Well - he doesn't mention that (as he says he wants them to burn in hell) - but it is besides the point - SO puts the emphasis on providing content rather than tricking you into signing up...

[lispified]

hi, you're retarded.

[Borbuster]

The secret is to use Google cache, or make your browser identify itself as the google spider.

[VictusFate]

live and yahoo had unusually small percentages do the fraction of coding who use them.

Why would a coder use a suboptimal search tool?

[VictusFate]

Once again we're shown why Joel is a pro-grammer that's gifted enough to have vision beyond the coding world. Sharing weaknesses of search for techs, & gladly offers solutions implement in StackOverflow. Thanks Joel, wish we all had the golden ticket to your ideal design environment.

[VictusFate]

rand(7) using rand(5) (ruby?),rand(7) URN 0-6,rand(5) URN 0-4

alg has to cover the space 0-6 with numbers 0-4

summation rand(5) would alter the dist (towards normal due to central limit)

ans: rand(5) followed by rand(5) gives 25 ordered pairs, so map it to 0-24 (call it mrand(25)), 0,0 -> 0, 0,1 -> 1 ... 1,0 -> 5...4,4 -> 24

if the number is 21,22,23,24 call it again, otherwise answer = mrand(25) mod 7

[rhizmoe]

This should be downloadable. YouTube's pipes can't keep up and it looks like it's going to take an hour to buffer up.

[altcognito]

He missed that at about 41:30 or so there's a question from Jon Skeet one of the top question answerers (or he chose to ignore it). He's an MS MVP and Google employee.

[b14ckf14m3]

Can you make the volume any lower?

[CleverHumans]

What's up with the crazy, random video editing to clips of people doing boring things?

[ChristopherDone]

I believe when people make a noise it shows that video stream. Perhaps for some conversational type of talks?

[theJacakal]

Re the perl 6 rewrite: its kinda hard to go from not having a VM to having a VM without a lot of reprogramming. Especially when you're changing a but-load of syntax in the progress.

Also, you can't use the Mozilla rationale, people who work on perl6 do so because they want to, not because they're paid to. Perl 5 is still growing an improving.

Perl 6 is almost an entirely new product.

And dead? HAH!

[Merusdraconis]

If it's a new product, they should have called it a new product (Ocen, perhaps). That way, if it doesn't work out, they can always go back to Perl and make a version 6 without any loss of face or confusion amongst the audience as to which version is the sucky one. One of the Office products apparently did the same complete rewrite thing in the early days, but because it was a fork and not a rewrite the problems the Mozilla team had didn't eventuate.

[theaxemeister]

The biggest features that were added to Perl 5.10 were straight out of Perl 6 syntax. They are both going to the same place, syntactically. Last thing I knew features for 5.12 have requested things from Perl 6 as well. It's never a bad thing to have long range language goals. If the VM ever gets there, it will be a plus.

[ZirconCode]

Yes that "hyphen" website is always there and always annoying, it's terribly obnoxious

[GeoffreyBernardo]

What is that hyphen website?

[maximz2005]

Experts Exchange - it sucks!

[ChristopherDone]

I always scroll down to see the answers... I find it pretty useful. But I'm glad StackOverflow will (probably) usurp it.

[levilisko]

@ChristopherDone

yeah but its kind of annoying they appear frequenty on the first results...

but i guess if they could keep the answer/questions quality and make a profit in other ways then direct charging the users, i would find it alright...

[jiifurusu]

A.K.A. Expert Sexchange.

[scaradim]

@maximz2005 why?

[xyking]

@maximz2005 Expert-sex-change :) hehe

[tenofzero]

Awesome video, great info, thanks !!!!!!

[MaGnAFraG]

You probably didn't hear about them due to ignorance.

[bjangoapps]

Joel is actually really well known, as is Fogbugz and Stack Overflow. Fog Creek software is typically held in the highest regard for developers... a place they'd love to work. I'm not sure "cunt" is the right label for a guy who's not only successful, but also pretty generous in terms of providing solid info for the programming world for free.

[romandas1]

Just because he's proud of his people and he goes out of his way to hire good people and treat them well, you criticize because you don't know of them? Seems like the problem is with your awareness. Or should I just stoop down and call you something nasty now?

[sardosonocapitomihai]

what's that after 25:52 ???

[MadSmokerBBQ]

damn shame that they used the cheapest tinny mic in the entire google universe.  God forbid they should drop a dime on an SM-58.

[worzelhund]

i wounder what they do if the question is too abstract:

Person A) Whats the best programming lang?

Person B) What do you want to do?

Person A) ...

[andypantses]

@worzelhund

Essentislly, that's not what's wanted. Occasionally topics like that are allowed, just to make a fun little topic that the community can bond through (e.g. "best programmer comic"), but for the most part that isn't the intent of the site. That's for discussion forums, or the programming reddit, or something like that. So usually it will be ignored, but occasionally here and there for fun it might be community wiki'd and a thread continues. Explicitly described in various podcasts.

[Teufel916]

The answer to your question is addressed by Joel at 17:35 - 18:15

Good question!

[D3mi4n]

WTF? 20:48

There's also pieces of webcam footage

[aschranyt]

Those aren't webcams, those are people watching the talk on VC.