Oh what fanciful June 1940 the Nazi stormtroopers all sang "Wir fahren gegen England!" as they congregated on the shores of occupied France, gazing longinly at the white cliffs of Dover gleaming in the sunshine 21 miles away across the Channel. Well, they tried to do just that, but they didn't "gegen" very far. They tried, but our RAF boys blasted them out of the skies over Southern England, and even though they bombed our towns and cities no Nazi jackboot ever set foot on mainland Britain.
this is a shame, people need to know history, so that they can have their eyes quite open, what´s the purpose of doing a doc about what could have happened?! this is not history! It´s drama! people need to know about History, drama is aso important, but let´s not mix both things, otherwise it will be a big mess, nobody will understand nothing...
Just think if this happened and the axis prevailed in winning the war,Britain and Europe would now not be suffering from economic and industrial meltdown nor full of all the unwanted from 3rd world countries bleeding the tax payers dry.
roffle no, Axis demilitarization would have prompted a massive uprising especially in Poland. The Axis policies would have guarantee defeat, even IF the Soviet Union was crushed or occupied - their grip would collapse when they switch from war footing
The Nazis would have had major problems as quite a number of the British at that time were armed with their own wpns---realistic would be that Churchill would have fled to the United States.
War effort focusing on Seelöwe and later,the need to feed the populations of england would have postponed Barbarossa to 1942.
Wales and Scotland independent, northern Irland is given to Irland.
Japan would have attacked colonial south-east asia earlier and the US, which would have been even more anti-axis than after the invasion of France, would have reacted to that and caused Japan to launch an earlier pre-emptive naval attack against the pacific fleet.
Plausible only to a political child silly notions loaded with emotive jargon like "world domination" reveal the target demographic at whom this prejudiced tripe is aimed and lands with smug smug satisfaction. Britain with its defeated BEF was directly responsible for the occupation of low countries as well as Norway. But riddle me this. Britain declared war on Germany on a pretext over Polish sovereignity. Why didn't she extend that declaration to include Poland's co-invader, the Soviet Union?
London? The last beacon of freedoom? Lol, brits forget the existence of Switzerland and Sweden, those capitales doesn´t stink of rusty sewer pipes and paki pigs. :D
@Fridaey13txhOktober Yeah Sweden and Switzerland were really standing in the Germans way werent thay.... The only Supur power left in Europe was standing up to Mighty Germany.
This is what would have happened had the GOP been powerful enough to impeach and convict FDR over the lend-lease business to the point of risking engagement of hostilities with the Nazis in the Atlantic. Then a GOP-dominated government would have sat idly by as the Nazis invaded Britain. They may even have sat had Hitler invaded Canada. When it was time for the United States to be invaded, it would have been too late. And we in the present day would curse the Repubs, AS THE DEMONS ARE CURSED.
@EdM021 —actually, both political parties in the United States were committed to eventual war with Nazi Germany, and the initial war plan assumed having no British island bases to begin with. That was what the B-36 bomber was being developed for —intercontinental flight and very high altitude. It was also being developed to carry very "special" type bombloads. Single devices. I think you can work out just what type.
@rangeclerk — not by all that much. The B-36 was put on the back-burner in favour of B-24 construction in large numbers. Since Britain had definitively defeated the Luftwaffle over its skies and was not going to drop out of the war, the assumptions behind the B-36 were rendered moot. An intercontinental bomber was not necessary after December of 1941.
@LordZontar I am basing my statements on what I read in AIR & SPACE back around 1999/2000 issue---the thinking of WW2 at the time when America was in the fight was that if the Germans suc with their sub attacks against the freighters the Americans were going to use the B-36 to bring supplies to England and long-range bombing to Germany.
The allies however did go back to the tactics they used for their convoys of WW 1
@LordZontar Also given the vid it discusses "What If" the Germans had invaded and captured England---given that, the US would have increased development of the B-36 so that it could have had long range bombing ability of Germany. Suspect if Britian had fallen or close to it, the President would have found some way to convince Americans we needed to get into the fight to save Freedom. Given that then the Japanese probably would have been unable to attack the 7th Fleet.
germany had developped one fighter aircraft able to intercept the B-36 in 1944 (16 200 meters), then there was the Wasserfall radio-guided missile (operational altitude +18 000, range 25 kilometers).
@Fridaey13txhOktober The "Wasserfall" its radio signal it relied on was easy to jam. We could have overwhelmed the German Air defense for the same reason we won WW2 & the American Civil War---We out produced them in everything!
The vid of a "what if" though interesting, did not happen & the speculations on both sides is just speculations...Given the United States Economic and Technological ability...the outcome would have been the same WW2 US & allies won WW2.
@Fridaey13txhOktober — up to 53,000 feet? That's nice. It still leaves it 2,000 - 7,000 feet below what a B-36 could fly, and even at 53,000 the fighter will be struggling simply to fly level and not stall out attempting even a gentle turn. The B-36 could cruise comfortably at that altitude. F-86 Sabrejets had that problem in interception exercises with the Peacemaker. I really don't think anything the Luftwaffle could have put up would fare any better.
There is no way someone whose name sounds like "Brown shits" could have governed Britain. They would have used up every round shooting us for laughing!
Nice little film but rubbish. Operation Sealion would have been a German disaster of epic proportions had the Nazis attempted it. They had no landing craft that could survive a Channel crossing and none that could have carried tanks or trucks, which means it would have been just foot infantry against mechanised divisions on British home soil, with lots of artillery and a still-intact RAF and Royal Navy to back the army. Laughable the film's claim to be "fiction based on fact".
@LordZontar Well fiction based on fact is a rather silly term because its either factual or fictional. To create the most efficient alternative history one has to make assumptions. Landing crafts would have probably been gliders like those used against Belgian and Holland. Germany had huge gliders.
Another question is would they have used the Channel islands as a stepping stone?
Would they have invaded from the south?
There are many many assumptions. You will always end up with "rubbish!"
@STOPTHEEU —Unfortunately, glider assault would have required control of the skies and the Luftwaffle was never going to achieve that. Also, the gliders the Nazis had available would never have been able to ferry the sort of invasion force required to successfully establish a beachhead, and certainly could never carry tanks or artillery pieces.
@STOPTHEEU —Also, using the Channel islands as "stepping stones' does not answer the problem of the inadequate landing craft the Nazis had available to them, which would have been swamped in a light swell, nor would it have solved the problem of the Royal Navy's dominion of the Home Waters. As for invading from any other direction... That means trying to pull off Sealion with the resources they had crossing the North Sea, which makes the Channel seem a pond by comparison.
@LordZontar I always thought the main problem wasn't so much landing a force ashore as it was keeping it supplied. The beach landing could have been a one-off, "throw the whole fleet into it" effort that maybe could have been pulled off, with luck. However, the Germans would have had to maintain an open supply lane over the channel indefinately. There was no way they would have been able to do that.
@davidrodgersNJ — that was the OTHER problem with Sealion, which would have cropped up had anything resembling a successful landing of what essentially would have been unsupported foot-infantry had been pulled off. From start to finish, Sealion was a joke, surpassed only by the even more laughable Nazi nuclear weapons effort for sheer incompetence.
ussr were oblijed to repair the economy of Eastern Europe, this was a great extra job. The only reason to join this lands was self defence. If USA and Britain were more peaceful USSR could easily leave E. Europe. But the end of WWII was the preparation to Cold War, and USSR didn't want to be defeated. Stalin has accepted the doctrine "Communism in one land", so the idea of World Communism doesn't suit to USSR's actions/
USA have gained a lot and lost a little. (Its industry wasn't destroyed at all, but they sold many goods and cretits to Europe and USSR and (may be, may be.. even Germany))
Who really sacrificed most to win WWII? Surely Russia has suffered and lost a lot of lives, but they gained a lot in return, such as the status of superpower and a tight foothold on Eastern Europe.
The British, on the other hand, gained very little, and sacrificed the very empire they had maintained for hundreds of years in just 8 years of WWII.
Who sacrificed more to win WWII? In the grand scheme of things, It's the British.
My bad, WWII lasted 6 years. Sorry for the mistake.
Nevertheless, to lose an empire that they'd held on for hundreds of years in just six years of fighting WWII would make the British the winner in who sacrificed most to win WWII, not Russia.
Don't compare peoples lives and your Empire, which would fall in some years regardless of WWII. World goes further and it is hard to mantain such an Empires in new world! You empire couldn't survive in presence of USA and USSR as new superpowers. And USSR would become this status even faster without WWII. Britain has lost very little in comparison with USSR, and USSR has gained very little in comparison with the losses. The true winner are USA!!!
how is a nazi flag over the palace bad taste? this is a doc not a poltically correct, quaint film. also the USA wouldnt have helped britain cause in the 40's they were isolationalist and not very powerful. also they tried to get canada to join them in making a plan for a joint defense of the americas so attack was the last thing on their minds. resistance in britain and europe would definatly have fought on for decades at least though so this doc is far fetched
Oh C'mon this wouldn't have happen. How did they even knew that guerrilla fighters will loose? The USA would have gotten into the war to save Britain just as France. Japan would still have attack The Usa.
Your so ignorant how the hell did USA save britain, if USA didnt enter the war russian would of finished off germany with out you or us, ready history little boy
Are you kidding me so theres no need for America...Americas forces were nothing.Hes not a little boy nad maybe you should read your history...Or maybe you shouldnt because your saying this.. and you seem to have read it.
Fuck. You've made a good money on russian blood. If we were defeated, you couldn't sell so much "aid". You ' ve killed Miloshevich, a poor former bank clerk from NY (he was an american pawn, as hitler was at his time...), but USA should be ashamed for all their wars, for Hirisima, WWII, Hitler, Iraq etc. too much to write. Great shame on this country.
Ha A A HAAAA The Nazis what a poor attempt at world domination. If a small farming populas from italy can create one of the greatest empires on the European continent then i dunno who Heir Hitler put in charge of his plans lol
I hate the fact this video seems to think Britain and England are the same countries. They're not! Oh and for all you Russian cock suckers, it became apparent to the German high command during the latter stages of the battle of Britain that a full scale invasion would NEVER have been successful even if the luftwaffe achieved air superiority. The Royal Navy would still have been able to mount a good enough defense to repel any invasion. Giving the RAF time to regather their strength.
theres nothing wrong with the Russians, they helped a lot in the war. When Germany gave up on Britain they turned full force for Russia. this gave a lot of time for the UK to become a military base! the only main fault on the Russian half is that Stalin should have listend to Britain when we said the nazis would attack! apart from that he learnt a lot from protending to be a friend to Hitler at the first stages.
And if it wasn't for the british the russians would be speaking german.
Where do you think they got their advanced weapons from, not to mention the food and munitions that got them through the siege of leningrad.....the british merchant navy kept the russian troops alive.
I met Hitler in an internet cafe the other day and he is a really nice bloke, dead down to earth and not up his own arse like most celebs these days. He's just had a bad press thats all.
What happened at islands (Sark, Jersey and Gurnsey), is some of the funniest shit I've heard. Of the many things that happened, the guy who lived on Sark had the Germans sign their asses into his guest ledger.
The deception is basic when one looks at the shear contradictions that occur in Nazism First off the myth that Ariens where super beings and that non Ariens are impure, so why did they accept Croatians and Italians to help? Second is in relation to this, white supremacy, and yet the Mufti (Islamics) actually helped hitler! surely there not white? third is the shear fact that Blond hair is better when Adolf himself had dark hair! so the propaganda is manipulated to appeal to every ones preference
We owe so much to the Allied soldiers of WWII. It was their bravery and dedication that kept this from becoming a horrible reality, in other nations besides Britain as well as Britain itself. It took the combined efforts of all the Allies to win the victory. Their sacrifice will never be forgotten. To all Allied soldiers of WWII, of whatever nation, I can only say - THANK YOU!!! You saved us from a horrible fate.
for all you who dont believe in GOD answer me this. Why did the nazis let the british army go? they had them but they let them go. hmmm.. makes you think.
the answer is that he expected the British army to stay and continue fighting, an assumption that was based on his experiences fighting british soldiers in WW1. It has nothing to do with any God and for the British army to have done such a thing would have been tantamount to mass suicide.
...ummm, and this has what to do with God? Maybe it makes "you think", but I do plenty of thinking without needing this as motivation. With your rationale, lots of people escaped from the WTC on 9-11....wow, that's it! Must be because of God! Oh yeah, lots of people died! Bloody hell! Must be because of God! Oh Crap, I'm so confused! I thought I had it sussed!
Most historians think that Hitler thought that the German army was overstretched and in need of resupply after the blitzkrieg through France and that's why he didn't issue the coup de grace.
no Goering said that the luftwaffe would be able to finish off the Army trapped at Dunkirke. Hitler gave him his opportunity fortunately for the Allies.
Actually they would have done no such thing - they had no way to cross the channel without being blasted out of the water by the Royal Navy. Even with air superiority they would have failed any landing - their planes were just no good against ships. Light bombers too inaccurate, stuka too slow to avoid AA fire from British destroyers.
That's why they would have used Focke-Wulfs, anti-ship bombers. And if the royal navy would have gone to the english channel, that would have been a suicide, because they wouldn't have much room to avoid fire.
then end is correct, the stuka was never very good at anything. the only thing it was good at was terror attacking. scream down on a target and release a bomb and rear up again. what you must realise is its nearly impossible to miss it if your in a spit fire. hear the scream, let it climb, follow in the shadow and fire when ready! dead as a dodo! :P
I think it just goes to show how bad things were and could have been. I agree us Brits are tough bunch, but without the financial and physical might of the USA we would have been screwed. I might also add that a huge number of Americans have British ancestry, so if you are American and feel especially tough yourself... you know why :)!
The British also took 60 years to repay the war debt to the USA, so dont think you got it for free, google war debt UK and see what it tells you. The Marshall Plan rebuilt Europe.
Holland, Germany france benifitted, the Uk did not
Yes, all those German sympathizers (N.B. not Nazi sympathizers) thought that Germany and Japan would have to be rebuilt or there might be a resurgence of resentment which would lead to imperialism like after WW1. But all this goes to prove Eisenhower's view that money spent on the military comes directly out of spending on things like infrastructure and education. He once said that for the cost of one strategic bomber you could build a brick schoolhouse in 20 towns.
I'm probably alone in this, but I find this video mildly offensive. A channel calling itself "The History Channel" shouldn't be reinventing history this way, especially a non-British channel.
Go do "What would have happened if Japan had successfully destroyed the USA" and see what Americans think of that.
Yeah its called Turning Point:Fall of liberty, it suggests that Winston Churchill died, in a car accident. The car accident did occur in real life however he was only injured. Britain falls and America remains neutral until the German's invade. It follows the protagonist as he struggles towards liberation of Us and Britain.
Having a war is not an easy affair. In addition to having required men and material, strategic planning is a must. So, that is what Hitler did exactly! According to this documentary, if Goering succeeded in air attacks, things would have happened as for the plan and Britain would have been occupied like Poland, Belgium etc. Observed, Hitler had gone in to smallest details. A brilliant man with satanic mind. Excellent video and thanks for posting.
look mate we appreciate your countrys help but we have more bottle than coka-cola lol check out whinston churchill insperational clip its a famous british speach let me know what u think mate happy new year
While everyone is on their jingoist high horse be that horse named Anglophilia or Ameriphilia we would all do well to remember that 85 percent of the German army was annihilated on the Russian Front. And as a Democratic westerner I can tell you the only time I like Commies is when their killing Nazis. Oh, And the reverse is not true, I never like Nazis. Communism is like global tuberculosis Nazism is like Bubonic plague.
Because Canada is part of the British Commonwealth of Nations and is geographically the closest too. America wasn't involved in the war at that point, and if they took in the British gov't, that is basically waging war against Germany.
Because Canada was at war with Nazi Germany and the U.S. was not. Indeed, Americans were 80 percent opposed to U.S. involvement in WW2 until Pearl Harbour. In addition Nazi Germany declared war on the US not the other way around as part of its pact with Imperial Japan. For actual historical example, the Dutch royal family relocated to Canada. We actually declared the maternity war in the hospital part of Holland so the princess would be born in the Netherlands.
The only reason the USA came into this war is because they declared war on Japan which then caused the Japanese allies Nazi Germany to declare war on the USA!
It makes sense as the King was our head of state. Canada did not gain complete independence until the 1980's with a constitution that we can change ourselves (it had to pass through the British Parliament first. Canada is a safe place as it would have been beyond the ability of the Germans to invade (and if they did, would certainly bring the Americans into the war).
Simple anyone that invades canada has to deal with the americans.The americans consider north america theres.ANy forgion country that defies them whould have a nasty war on there hands.
WOW, this was only 1940...such a short time ago..and SO many have forgotten their patriotism :( Shame. I love watching these video's and reminding us of where we've been, and what we've overcome!
They seem to think if they'd taken out the Royal Air Force they'd of invaded Britain, The next objected would of been the Royal Navy, And Germany couldn't match our Navy, In 1940 we still had the Biggest and Best Navy in the hole world, They would of blockaded french ports like they did to most german ones during the war......
Britain is nothing but a one of the U.N. bunch and not a world power or a military power. Just remember then the embarrassing mishap of the UK's sailors with Iran. Those sailors were humiliated and they themselves acted as if they liked the attention and gave themselves up in soul and heart to the Iranians. These sailors were taken right in front of the Royal Navy's nose. It is to bad that Churchill is not a live, I wonder what he would say about it?
What are you talking about? Why bring up common affairs on a video about ww2? I dont see the point in your post at all? As for us not being a "world power" then why do we have Nuclear Subs that have the capability to burn Washington D.C to the Ground Again?? Remember that? was it around 1812? Oh well...
American = Shit history = No major Military History = Living on the dreams of British History!
Germany is better off now precisely because it DID lose the war. So, to say that they would have better health care under Nazi Germany then they do now is ludicrous
maybe it would have been better if germany succeeded in invading britain..the germans enjoy more freedoms now than the british and the standard of living is much higher..
Oh what fanciful June 1940 the Nazi stormtroopers all sang "Wir fahren gegen England!" as they congregated on the shores of occupied France, gazing longinly at the white cliffs of Dover gleaming in the sunshine 21 miles away across the Channel. Well, they tried to do just that, but they didn't "gegen" very far. They tried, but our RAF boys blasted them out of the skies over Southern England, and even though they bombed our towns and cities no Nazi jackboot ever set foot on mainland Britain.
Verderer 3 months ago
2:00 ouch
StarLord1996 3 months ago
this is a shame, people need to know history, so that they can have their eyes quite open, what´s the purpose of doing a doc about what could have happened?! this is not history! It´s drama! people need to know about History, drama is aso important, but let´s not mix both things, otherwise it will be a big mess, nobody will understand nothing...
encerradoparaobras 5 months ago
Just think if this happened and the axis prevailed in winning the war,Britain and Europe would now not be suffering from economic and industrial meltdown nor full of all the unwanted from 3rd world countries bleeding the tax payers dry.
silver760 1 year ago
@silver760
roffle no, Axis demilitarization would have prompted a massive uprising especially in Poland. The Axis policies would have guarantee defeat, even IF the Soviet Union was crushed or occupied - their grip would collapse when they switch from war footing
Warsie 8 months ago
4:39 looks really real
spartanf34 1 year ago
The Nazis would have had major problems as quite a number of the British at that time were armed with their own wpns---realistic would be that Churchill would have fled to the United States.
rangeclerk 1 year ago
War effort focusing on Seelöwe and later,the need to feed the populations of england would have postponed Barbarossa to 1942.
Wales and Scotland independent, northern Irland is given to Irland.
Japan would have attacked colonial south-east asia earlier and the US, which would have been even more anti-axis than after the invasion of France, would have reacted to that and caused Japan to launch an earlier pre-emptive naval attack against the pacific fleet.
Allies would have won earlier.
Fridaey13txhOktober 1 year ago
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DermotBOSSCOM 1 year ago
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DermotBOSSCOM 1 year ago
Plausible only to a political child silly notions loaded with emotive jargon like "world domination" reveal the target demographic at whom this prejudiced tripe is aimed and lands with smug smug satisfaction. Britain with its defeated BEF was directly responsible for the occupation of low countries as well as Norway. But riddle me this. Britain declared war on Germany on a pretext over Polish sovereignity. Why didn't she extend that declaration to include Poland's co-invader, the Soviet Union?
soaringstar 1 year ago
London? The last beacon of freedoom? Lol, brits forget the existence of Switzerland and Sweden, those capitales doesn´t stink of rusty sewer pipes and paki pigs. :D
Fridaey13txhOktober 1 year ago
@Fridaey13txhOktober Yeah Sweden and Switzerland were really standing in the Germans way werent thay.... The only Supur power left in Europe was standing up to Mighty Germany.
MrGrafted 1 year ago
Pint standing, Hitler´s war wasn´t against democracy.
Fridaey13txhOktober 1 year ago
@Fridaey13txhOktober Yes very true.
MrGrafted 1 year ago
@Fridaey13txhOktober You sound rather like Hitler yourself.
Switzerland was not willing to fight Hitler. That's the difference.
STOPTHEEU 1 year ago
If Hitler believed Seelöwe would be a loss rather than a gain, there would have been no effort in that direction.
Hitler´s expansionism was aimed eastward, he didn´t give a fuck whever england was "democratic" or not.
Fridaey13txhOktober 1 year ago
This is what would have happened had the GOP been powerful enough to impeach and convict FDR over the lend-lease business to the point of risking engagement of hostilities with the Nazis in the Atlantic. Then a GOP-dominated government would have sat idly by as the Nazis invaded Britain. They may even have sat had Hitler invaded Canada. When it was time for the United States to be invaded, it would have been too late. And we in the present day would curse the Repubs, AS THE DEMONS ARE CURSED.
EdM021 1 year ago
@EdM021 —actually, both political parties in the United States were committed to eventual war with Nazi Germany, and the initial war plan assumed having no British island bases to begin with. That was what the B-36 bomber was being developed for —intercontinental flight and very high altitude. It was also being developed to carry very "special" type bombloads. Single devices. I think you can work out just what type.
LordZontar 1 year ago
@LordZontar correct on the development of the B-36...WW 2 would have lasted longer but the Western Powers would have still won WW2.
rangeclerk 1 year ago
@rangeclerk — not by all that much. The B-36 was put on the back-burner in favour of B-24 construction in large numbers. Since Britain had definitively defeated the Luftwaffle over its skies and was not going to drop out of the war, the assumptions behind the B-36 were rendered moot. An intercontinental bomber was not necessary after December of 1941.
LordZontar 1 year ago
@LordZontar I am basing my statements on what I read in AIR & SPACE back around 1999/2000 issue---the thinking of WW2 at the time when America was in the fight was that if the Germans suc with their sub attacks against the freighters the Americans were going to use the B-36 to bring supplies to England and long-range bombing to Germany.
The allies however did go back to the tactics they used for their convoys of WW 1
rangeclerk 1 year ago
@LordZontar Also given the vid it discusses "What If" the Germans had invaded and captured England---given that, the US would have increased development of the B-36 so that it could have had long range bombing ability of Germany. Suspect if Britian had fallen or close to it, the President would have found some way to convince Americans we needed to get into the fight to save Freedom. Given that then the Japanese probably would have been unable to attack the 7th Fleet.
rangeclerk 1 year ago
germany had developped one fighter aircraft able to intercept the B-36 in 1944 (16 200 meters), then there was the Wasserfall radio-guided missile (operational altitude +18 000, range 25 kilometers).
Fridaey13txhOktober 1 year ago
@Fridaey13txhOktober The "Wasserfall" its radio signal it relied on was easy to jam. We could have overwhelmed the German Air defense for the same reason we won WW2 & the American Civil War---We out produced them in everything!
The vid of a "what if" though interesting, did not happen & the speculations on both sides is just speculations...Given the United States Economic and Technological ability...the outcome would have been the same WW2 US & allies won WW2.
rangeclerk 1 year ago
@Fridaey13txhOktober — up to 53,000 feet? That's nice. It still leaves it 2,000 - 7,000 feet below what a B-36 could fly, and even at 53,000 the fighter will be struggling simply to fly level and not stall out attempting even a gentle turn. The B-36 could cruise comfortably at that altitude. F-86 Sabrejets had that problem in interception exercises with the Peacemaker. I really don't think anything the Luftwaffle could have put up would fare any better.
LordZontar 1 year ago
There is no way someone whose name sounds like "Brown shits" could have governed Britain. They would have used up every round shooting us for laughing!
TheBelovedButterfly 1 year ago
Nice little film but rubbish. Operation Sealion would have been a German disaster of epic proportions had the Nazis attempted it. They had no landing craft that could survive a Channel crossing and none that could have carried tanks or trucks, which means it would have been just foot infantry against mechanised divisions on British home soil, with lots of artillery and a still-intact RAF and Royal Navy to back the army. Laughable the film's claim to be "fiction based on fact".
LordZontar 1 year ago
@LordZontar Well fiction based on fact is a rather silly term because its either factual or fictional. To create the most efficient alternative history one has to make assumptions. Landing crafts would have probably been gliders like those used against Belgian and Holland. Germany had huge gliders.
Another question is would they have used the Channel islands as a stepping stone?
Would they have invaded from the south?
There are many many assumptions. You will always end up with "rubbish!"
STOPTHEEU 1 year ago
@STOPTHEEU —Unfortunately, glider assault would have required control of the skies and the Luftwaffle was never going to achieve that. Also, the gliders the Nazis had available would never have been able to ferry the sort of invasion force required to successfully establish a beachhead, and certainly could never carry tanks or artillery pieces.
LordZontar 1 year ago
@STOPTHEEU —Also, using the Channel islands as "stepping stones' does not answer the problem of the inadequate landing craft the Nazis had available to them, which would have been swamped in a light swell, nor would it have solved the problem of the Royal Navy's dominion of the Home Waters. As for invading from any other direction... That means trying to pull off Sealion with the resources they had crossing the North Sea, which makes the Channel seem a pond by comparison.
LordZontar 1 year ago
@LordZontar I always thought the main problem wasn't so much landing a force ashore as it was keeping it supplied. The beach landing could have been a one-off, "throw the whole fleet into it" effort that maybe could have been pulled off, with luck. However, the Germans would have had to maintain an open supply lane over the channel indefinately. There was no way they would have been able to do that.
davidrodgersNJ 1 year ago
@davidrodgersNJ — that was the OTHER problem with Sealion, which would have cropped up had anything resembling a successful landing of what essentially would have been unsupported foot-infantry had been pulled off. From start to finish, Sealion was a joke, surpassed only by the even more laughable Nazi nuclear weapons effort for sheer incompetence.
LordZontar 1 year ago
So much fun to see the murderous, thieving, conniving, lying, moronic human race at work
rlzzxx 1 year ago
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ussr were oblijed to repair the economy of Eastern Europe, this was a great extra job. The only reason to join this lands was self defence. If USA and Britain were more peaceful USSR could easily leave E. Europe. But the end of WWII was the preparation to Cold War, and USSR didn't want to be defeated. Stalin has accepted the doctrine "Communism in one land", so the idea of World Communism doesn't suit to USSR's actions/
TFreedomOfSpeech 2 years ago
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TFreedomOfSpeech 2 years ago
USA have gained a lot and lost a little. (Its industry wasn't destroyed at all, but they sold many goods and cretits to Europe and USSR and (may be, may be.. even Germany))
TFreedomOfSpeech 2 years ago
@TFreedomOfSpeech Certainly Germany. More than certainly. Ford, IG Farben, Coca cola and even the banks!
STOPTHEEU 1 year ago
OK, let's put things into perspective here.
Who really sacrificed most to win WWII? Surely Russia has suffered and lost a lot of lives, but they gained a lot in return, such as the status of superpower and a tight foothold on Eastern Europe.
The British, on the other hand, gained very little, and sacrificed the very empire they had maintained for hundreds of years in just 8 years of WWII.
Who sacrificed more to win WWII? In the grand scheme of things, It's the British.
Point50Cal 2 years ago
My bad, WWII lasted 6 years. Sorry for the mistake.
Nevertheless, to lose an empire that they'd held on for hundreds of years in just six years of fighting WWII would make the British the winner in who sacrificed most to win WWII, not Russia.
Point50Cal 2 years ago
@Point50Cal Well Russia's key mistake was their alliance with Germany.
STOPTHEEU 1 year ago
@Point50Cal
Don't compare peoples lives and your Empire, which would fall in some years regardless of WWII. World goes further and it is hard to mantain such an Empires in new world! You empire couldn't survive in presence of USA and USSR as new superpowers. And USSR would become this status even faster without WWII. Britain has lost very little in comparison with USSR, and USSR has gained very little in comparison with the losses. The true winner are USA!!!
British people are so funny)).
TFreedomOfSpeech 2 years ago
You guys who are interested in Alternate history: Try out Harry Turtledove´s books.
This seems to be an awesome documentation, thanks 4 uploading.
BigPuschlerX 2 years ago
Hitler would of loved to of had Britain, 70% of the population of England in the 40's were blonde and blue eyed. Too bad he didn't get us.
Urinesauce 2 years ago
how is a nazi flag over the palace bad taste? this is a doc not a poltically correct, quaint film. also the USA wouldnt have helped britain cause in the 40's they were isolationalist and not very powerful. also they tried to get canada to join them in making a plan for a joint defense of the americas so attack was the last thing on their minds. resistance in britain and europe would definatly have fought on for decades at least though so this doc is far fetched
InsaneAsJoker 2 years ago
respect to Great Britain !
only England can defence from Nazi Attack.
England must be proud of it.
RezoChigogidze 2 years ago 6
Dont forget, wales, scotland and Northern Ireland fought the nazis too!
BritishWarLord 2 years ago 16
Ànd how about Australians, New Zealanders and the Poles who formed a considerable part of the British army back then...
ghostdivision7 2 years ago 3
@BritishWarLord Well that is Britain. However the IRA were funded by Hitler.
STOPTHEEU 1 year ago
you can't forget that canada was alway's alongside the brits
luckyzacky 1 year ago 4
@BritishWarLord Who? ;)
tallicalad 8 months ago
@tallicalad Not funny
BritishWarLord 7 months ago
not just England m8 there are 4 countries in Britain
ostrogoth182 2 years ago 2
Yes thank you you Russian
BritishWarLord 2 years ago
im not Russian.. im Georgian.
RezoChigogidze 2 years ago
omg. buckinham palace with the nazi flag. i cant watch no more of this. very poor tase.
patsyd80 2 years ago
Oh C'mon this wouldn't have happen. How did they even knew that guerrilla fighters will loose? The USA would have gotten into the war to save Britain just as France. Japan would still have attack The Usa.
vampirenemesis92 2 years ago
Your so ignorant how the hell did USA save britain, if USA didnt enter the war russian would of finished off germany with out you or us, ready history little boy
BritishWarLord 2 years ago 2
ready?
vampirenemesis92 2 years ago
Are you kidding me so theres no need for America...Americas forces were nothing.Hes not a little boy nad maybe you should read your history...Or maybe you shouldnt because your saying this.. and you seem to have read it.
Oldcartoons571 2 years ago
do you know about the Lend Lease Agreement?
blackcrossunited666 2 years ago
Of course fat greedy bankers got rich..
BritishWarLord 2 years ago
how so?
that's American aid via goods and war machines to Russian soldiers
blackcrossunited666 2 years ago
It was'nt aid it was a loan !!!
BritishWarLord 2 years ago
it was a loan and an aid....whatever you say it helps the war cause against Nazis
blackcrossunited666 2 years ago
@blackcrossunited666
Fuck. You've made a good money on russian blood. If we were defeated, you couldn't sell so much "aid". You ' ve killed Miloshevich, a poor former bank clerk from NY (he was an american pawn, as hitler was at his time...), but USA should be ashamed for all their wars, for Hirisima, WWII, Hitler, Iraq etc. too much to write. Great shame on this country.
WHammer40k 2 years ago
Russia wants it.....
blackcrossunited666 2 years ago
italian fascists took it first. it is known that fascism was a former inspiration for nazism.
Perversus666 2 years ago
hitler copied the roman empire mostly by the organisation and by his sign "hai!"
like roman's "avé"
ptitchemla 2 years ago
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What the fuck is this shit???
I'm gonna go look up some porn now
Bushmansmeg 3 years ago
Ha A A HAAAA The Nazis what a poor attempt at world domination. If a small farming populas from italy can create one of the greatest empires on the European continent then i dunno who Heir Hitler put in charge of his plans lol
psweep 3 years ago
Beacon of freedom, my ass. I wished Hitler had "cleansed" dastardly the British people. The world would have been a better place.
rk39 3 years ago
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Get back into your mud hut you shit for brains paki cunt.
Talbot6832 3 years ago
German bastards
fkinbrillant 3 years ago
I hate the fact this video seems to think Britain and England are the same countries. They're not! Oh and for all you Russian cock suckers, it became apparent to the German high command during the latter stages of the battle of Britain that a full scale invasion would NEVER have been successful even if the luftwaffe achieved air superiority. The Royal Navy would still have been able to mount a good enough defense to repel any invasion. Giving the RAF time to regather their strength.
ApproachWithCaution 3 years ago
very true saved me having to write that
fkinbrillant 3 years ago
theres nothing wrong with the Russians, they helped a lot in the war. When Germany gave up on Britain they turned full force for Russia. this gave a lot of time for the UK to become a military base! the only main fault on the Russian half is that Stalin should have listend to Britain when we said the nazis would attack! apart from that he learnt a lot from protending to be a friend to Hitler at the first stages.
draculapw 3 years ago
if it weren't for the russians we would be speaking german.
dootguy86 3 years ago
thats not true. no one can say what tiny details can change the corse of history! unless your name happens to be The Doctor or Garry Sparrow! :P
draculapw 3 years ago
And if it wasn't for the british the russians would be speaking german.
Where do you think they got their advanced weapons from, not to mention the food and munitions that got them through the siege of leningrad.....the british merchant navy kept the russian troops alive.
maureenOWW 2 years ago 2
this really makes you wonder huh
wc470 3 years ago
u go doctormodesto!
boulosjn 3 years ago
I met Hitler in an internet cafe the other day and he is a really nice bloke, dead down to earth and not up his own arse like most celebs these days. He's just had a bad press thats all.
bottlenosedborg 3 years ago
What happened at islands (Sark, Jersey and Gurnsey), is some of the funniest shit I've heard. Of the many things that happened, the guy who lived on Sark had the Germans sign their asses into his guest ledger.
glinux 4 years ago
just can't believe so many people were mass deluded by hitler/nazi machine...
dariusagoodwin 4 years ago
deluded hanged on a point of view, the same can be say on usa propaganda and globalization.
Tayvar 3 years ago
The deception is basic when one looks at the shear contradictions that occur in Nazism First off the myth that Ariens where super beings and that non Ariens are impure, so why did they accept Croatians and Italians to help? Second is in relation to this, white supremacy, and yet the Mufti (Islamics) actually helped hitler! surely there not white? third is the shear fact that Blond hair is better when Adolf himself had dark hair! so the propaganda is manipulated to appeal to every ones preference
draculapw 3 years ago
Good thing Briton didn't fall or els America and the USSR would be having a major problem.
partyboy99 4 years ago
We owe so much to the Allied soldiers of WWII. It was their bravery and dedication that kept this from becoming a horrible reality, in other nations besides Britain as well as Britain itself. It took the combined efforts of all the Allies to win the victory. Their sacrifice will never be forgotten. To all Allied soldiers of WWII, of whatever nation, I can only say - THANK YOU!!! You saved us from a horrible fate.
ortholvr 4 years ago
in the name of all that is sacred !!! except sodomy...
dakurv 4 years ago
i am an american but i love the fact that britain is just a small island but they never gave up and the queen did not even leave wow.
costa1A 4 years ago
for all you who dont believe in GOD answer me this. Why did the nazis let the british army go? they had them but they let them go. hmmm.. makes you think.
cvire1971 4 years ago
wtf is that got to do with god ya fanny
highlandstag 4 years ago 3
the answer is that he expected the British army to stay and continue fighting, an assumption that was based on his experiences fighting british soldiers in WW1. It has nothing to do with any God and for the British army to have done such a thing would have been tantamount to mass suicide.
pkpolecat 4 years ago
...ummm, and this has what to do with God? Maybe it makes "you think", but I do plenty of thinking without needing this as motivation. With your rationale, lots of people escaped from the WTC on 9-11....wow, that's it! Must be because of God! Oh yeah, lots of people died! Bloody hell! Must be because of God! Oh Crap, I'm so confused! I thought I had it sussed!
spartyman7 4 years ago
totally spartyman. i was going to reply to cvire's vacuous comment, but coodnt say it better than that . LMAO
joshua8866 4 years ago
Most historians think that Hitler thought that the German army was overstretched and in need of resupply after the blitzkrieg through France and that's why he didn't issue the coup de grace.
doctormodesto 3 years ago
no Goering said that the luftwaffe would be able to finish off the Army trapped at Dunkirke. Hitler gave him his opportunity fortunately for the Allies.
Otherwise the german army would have swept in.
svaran 3 years ago
Actually they would have done no such thing - they had no way to cross the channel without being blasted out of the water by the Royal Navy. Even with air superiority they would have failed any landing - their planes were just no good against ships. Light bombers too inaccurate, stuka too slow to avoid AA fire from British destroyers.
oberonstark 3 years ago
That's why they would have used Focke-Wulfs, anti-ship bombers. And if the royal navy would have gone to the english channel, that would have been a suicide, because they wouldn't have much room to avoid fire.
hydraa 3 years ago
then end is correct, the stuka was never very good at anything. the only thing it was good at was terror attacking. scream down on a target and release a bomb and rear up again. what you must realise is its nearly impossible to miss it if your in a spit fire. hear the scream, let it climb, follow in the shadow and fire when ready! dead as a dodo! :P
draculapw 3 years ago
I think it just goes to show how bad things were and could have been. I agree us Brits are tough bunch, but without the financial and physical might of the USA we would have been screwed. I might also add that a huge number of Americans have British ancestry, so if you are American and feel especially tough yourself... you know why :)!
mart9012 4 years ago
The British also took 60 years to repay the war debt to the USA, so dont think you got it for free, google war debt UK and see what it tells you. The Marshall Plan rebuilt Europe.
Holland, Germany france benifitted, the Uk did not
pendejitoholland 4 years ago
Yes, all those German sympathizers (N.B. not Nazi sympathizers) thought that Germany and Japan would have to be rebuilt or there might be a resurgence of resentment which would lead to imperialism like after WW1. But all this goes to prove Eisenhower's view that money spent on the military comes directly out of spending on things like infrastructure and education. He once said that for the cost of one strategic bomber you could build a brick schoolhouse in 20 towns.
doctormodesto 3 years ago
well with strategic bomber today, at 1 billion US Dolar B2-bomber, I think you can afford quite a bit more schools than a mere 20.
JayCKat 3 years ago
i find this depressing
the free world would have been destroyed
the US would have not gone to war with germany and we would all be fasiscts
-_-
polboy13 4 years ago
I'm probably alone in this, but I find this video mildly offensive. A channel calling itself "The History Channel" shouldn't be reinventing history this way, especially a non-British channel.
Go do "What would have happened if Japan had successfully destroyed the USA" and see what Americans think of that.
AlexisCapri 4 years ago
Actually, Germany and Japan did have plans to split the US in half. I saw it on The History Channel. Stop being so thin skinned and anti-American.
scorpdan 4 years ago
oh jesus, you can't type anything these days without someone jumping out in their starts and stripes underpants and screaming "anti-american"
America is the most boring, over-rated, over-promoted, overblown country on Earth.
I'll be as anti-American as I like thanks. I think your country is crap.
AlexisCapri 4 years ago
theres a new video game out that shows just that out come. great trailer. guy sleeping in his car get woke up buy a paratrooper landing on his car.
cvire1971 4 years ago
Yeah its called Turning Point:Fall of liberty, it suggests that Winston Churchill died, in a car accident. The car accident did occur in real life however he was only injured. Britain falls and America remains neutral until the German's invade. It follows the protagonist as he struggles towards liberation of Us and Britain.
UNKNOWNPOW 4 years ago
Since the battle of Hastings was fought in the year 1066, Britain, though often attacked, has never been successfully invaded from overseas.
AlexisCapri 4 years ago
c'mon.. english love beer, germans love beer..think about it!ahh shucks.. almost!
stuckNamsterdam 4 years ago
well.. there wouldn't be the problem with pakis and muslims! give me nazis any day over sharia law!
stuckNamsterdam 4 years ago
we will defend our island what ever the cost we will never surrender
excavotoroperator 4 years ago
damn straight! many have tried to cross,,, and died! hail to our British brothers and sisters!
stuckNamsterdam 4 years ago
now uk is the haven of refugees mostly hungry african,north africans ,muslims and eastern europeans
slazzer145 4 years ago
No Fucking way Nazis would have taken Britain!
igor2igor 4 years ago 4
Having a war is not an easy affair. In addition to having required men and material, strategic planning is a must. So, that is what Hitler did exactly! According to this documentary, if Goering succeeded in air attacks, things would have happened as for the plan and Britain would have been occupied like Poland, Belgium etc. Observed, Hitler had gone in to smallest details. A brilliant man with satanic mind. Excellent video and thanks for posting.
yuanyuanyin 4 years ago
Winsont Churchill killed in 1940 and the Royal Family in Canada ? This video is all bullshit. Nothing true at all...
HuntingdonMedia 4 years ago
Get the first part. 'Following Nazi plans for england we will see what life in england will be like under the Nazis."
StukovM1g 4 years ago
"In this film we IMAGINE"
Get it? IMAGINE?
pdxbikerboy 4 years ago
dipshit.. lol oh you got us!
stuckNamsterdam 4 years ago
look mate we appreciate your countrys help but we have more bottle than coka-cola lol check out whinston churchill insperational clip its a famous british speach let me know what u think mate happy new year
excavotoroperator 4 years ago
While everyone is on their jingoist high horse be that horse named Anglophilia or Ameriphilia we would all do well to remember that 85 percent of the German army was annihilated on the Russian Front. And as a Democratic westerner I can tell you the only time I like Commies is when their killing Nazis. Oh, And the reverse is not true, I never like Nazis. Communism is like global tuberculosis Nazism is like Bubonic plague.
doctormodesto 3 years ago 4
nice to see some sanity.
peppermintjohn666 3 years ago
the Russian people suffered terribly to defeat Hitler,hats off to them,they were the major victims of both nazism and communism
revengeofcleveland 3 years ago 18
"Democracy" made more victimes in the former soviet-Union than WW2.
Fridaey13txhOktober 1 year ago
Hear hear! someone who speaks the truth...
plugs313 3 years ago
Go Britain.
Pax Britannia.
haelionis 4 years ago
Go Brits!they kicked some german ass!
pixy44 4 years ago
How did the NAZI really lose? this is crazy. Thank god i dont speak German.
eguiat 4 years ago
very interesting video.
dfxjedi 4 years ago
Even with air superiority, it would have been extremely difficult for them to beat the Royal Navy and invade.
Thank God it didn't happen though
fordia 4 years ago
why canada and not america?
aznpwr9900 4 years ago
Because Canada is part of the British Commonwealth of Nations and is geographically the closest too. America wasn't involved in the war at that point, and if they took in the British gov't, that is basically waging war against Germany.
aaron4159 4 years ago
Because Canada is better.
Northgrant 4 years ago
Americans don't like monarchs =p
haelionis 4 years ago
Because Canada was at war with Nazi Germany and the U.S. was not. Indeed, Americans were 80 percent opposed to U.S. involvement in WW2 until Pearl Harbour. In addition Nazi Germany declared war on the US not the other way around as part of its pact with Imperial Japan. For actual historical example, the Dutch royal family relocated to Canada. We actually declared the maternity war in the hospital part of Holland so the princess would be born in the Netherlands.
doctormodesto 3 years ago 2
The only reason the USA came into this war is because they declared war on Japan which then caused the Japanese allies Nazi Germany to declare war on the USA!
draculapw 3 years ago
dillioum
dillioum 4 years ago
Thats a SHIT doc
fobalis 4 years ago
Why would the Royals evacuate to Canada and not some other nation?
ShckJok 4 years ago
It makes sense as the King was our head of state. Canada did not gain complete independence until the 1980's with a constitution that we can change ourselves (it had to pass through the British Parliament first. Canada is a safe place as it would have been beyond the ability of the Germans to invade (and if they did, would certainly bring the Americans into the war).
snedman40 4 years ago
Britain had a vast Empire, they could have chosen, Australia, NZ, India, and others
ShckJok 4 years ago
US: Unconditional Surrender...
KronprinzAdam 4 years ago
Explain
ShckJok 4 years ago
The ultimate cause of wars is simple: peace offers are just ignored. The "Unconditional Surrender" formula!!
KronprinzAdam 4 years ago
Yes I got that part, I was just wondering how it relates to the nation the Royal Family would evacuate to.
ShckJok 4 years ago
Simple anyone that invades canada has to deal with the americans.The americans consider north america theres.ANy forgion country that defies them whould have a nasty war on there hands.
3L24 4 years ago
Right, okay, now I understand,
ShckJok 4 years ago
No! No! NOOOOOOO! They fled to Canada cause they have pancakes with real maple syrup, stupid.
amerikano 4 years ago
A shame about the cheap production values and sensationalist nature of the documentary. Could have been a good programme, done properly.
yobdior 4 years ago
I wonder what happened to British Home Fleet?
steelpanther88 4 years ago 2
Seems that some individuals still did not overcome old resent
evzonas00 4 years ago
BRITISH PRIDE YOU KRAUT BASTARDS!
MilitantOldLady 4 years ago
BRILLIANT STUFF MATE!!!!!!!! :P
RMCDOXX0 4 years ago
WOW, this was only 1940...such a short time ago..and SO many have forgotten their patriotism :( Shame. I love watching these video's and reminding us of where we've been, and what we've overcome!
twistatoe 4 years ago 3
wht your forgetting is what you have become. It does no good to have pride in something that simple doesn't exist anymore.
Polybun 4 years ago
horrible german accent...
Achzarit100 4 years ago 2
They seem to think if they'd taken out the Royal Air Force they'd of invaded Britain, The next objected would of been the Royal Navy, And Germany couldn't match our Navy, In 1940 we still had the Biggest and Best Navy in the hole world, They would of blockaded french ports like they did to most german ones during the war......
burslemboy 4 years ago
Britain is nothing but a one of the U.N. bunch and not a world power or a military power. Just remember then the embarrassing mishap of the UK's sailors with Iran. Those sailors were humiliated and they themselves acted as if they liked the attention and gave themselves up in soul and heart to the Iranians. These sailors were taken right in front of the Royal Navy's nose. It is to bad that Churchill is not a live, I wonder what he would say about it?
ArielMig 4 years ago
What are you talking about? Why bring up common affairs on a video about ww2? I dont see the point in your post at all? As for us not being a "world power" then why do we have Nuclear Subs that have the capability to burn Washington D.C to the Ground Again?? Remember that? was it around 1812? Oh well...
American = Shit history = No major Military History = Living on the dreams of British History!
burslemboy 4 years ago
would say: bulls*it.. those f*cking sailors... hang them!!
FJMP31 4 years ago
Germany is better off now precisely because it DID lose the war. So, to say that they would have better health care under Nazi Germany then they do now is ludicrous
gymini29 4 years ago
AWESOME!!!
RodsChevrand 4 years ago
maybe it would have been better if germany succeeded in invading britain..the germans enjoy more freedoms now than the british and the standard of living is much higher..
johnnymanu 4 years ago
I live in Germany and visit my family in England,and you sir are writting rubbish
whoisthisguy2o6 4 years ago 2
I am just speaking from my own experiences..I also live in Germany and am British so I have an Idea about what I am talking about....
johnnymanu 4 years ago 2
yes.. damn why they didnt own GB!!!!!??? XD
FJMP31 4 years ago
You are an idiot!
ArielMig 4 years ago
sank yoo
johnnymanu 4 years ago
great video, i love alternate history
nickd9678 4 years ago
ANGRIFF WESTLAND! Well thank God in didnt happen.
socom6 4 years ago